17:00:05 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2014-11-13) 17:00:05 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 13 17:00:05 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:05 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:05 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:05 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:27 <nirik> anyone around for a quick irc support sig meeting? 17:00:27 * Khaytsus 17:00:37 <Khaytsus> The agenda looked a little complicated 17:00:51 <nirik> yeah, might go over our hour. ;) 17:00:54 <nirik> or... well, not. 17:01:29 <EvilBob> Hi All 17:01:46 * randomuser drops in 17:02:04 <nirik> #topic Week(s) in review 17:02:21 <nirik> anything folks would like to bring up from previous weeks? common bugs or themes? 17:02:33 <nirik> everything has seemed pretty boringly normal to me of late... 17:03:35 <nirik> there were a few people struggling to install the catalyst driver, but aside from "you are in for a world of pain and hurt and don't do it" not sure what we can do for them. 17:04:01 <randomuser> there's a surprising lack of confusion with fedup 17:04:27 <nirik> yeah, a few folks asking about it around beta for f21... but... 17:05:20 <nirik> we haven't really even had someone get all mad at EvilBob lately. ;) 17:06:40 <nirik> I expect we will also start seeing more people jumping to f21 as we get closer to release... 17:07:31 * randomuser notes that Release Notes have been published and probably have answers to many questions about f21 17:07:41 <randomuser> and, y'know, if the answers not there, say somethign 17:08:27 <nirik> people read those? ;) 17:08:50 <nirik> but yeah, do point folks to docs... 17:08:54 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:08:56 <randomuser> let's not look at the logs for that - I'd hate to find out they don't :P 17:09:10 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor? ideas? suggestions? 17:09:41 <randomuser> I have a meta-question 17:09:57 <nirik> ok, ask your question about questions? 17:09:59 <randomuser> the irc SIG: membership == ops? 17:10:17 <randomuser> the related FAS group I found suggested ops 17:10:31 <nirik> yeah, there's a wiki page somewhere... membership is anyone who shows up and helps... voting members are ops in any of the 4 channels: 17:10:46 <nirik> #fedora, #fedora-unregistered, #fedora-social, #fedora-ops 17:11:18 * randomuser reads the wiki page 17:11:26 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IRC_support_sig 17:11:28 <nirik> yeah. 17:11:31 <Khaytsus> Just to clarify; that's botop, not chanop in those four, yes? 17:12:01 <randomuser> the same group does, say, fedbot aliases? 17:12:17 <nirik> Khaytsus: I don't guess it says... but either? 17:12:41 <Khaytsus> Just curiou, as I've never been chanop in -unreg or -social 17:12:46 <nirik> randomuser: well, aliases I can just add on the fly... if there was some behavior change for it bigger than that probibly should be discussed 17:12:56 <nirik> Khaytsus: well, any _one of_ those channels. ;) 17:13:00 <Khaytsus> heh 17:13:01 * randomuser nods 17:13:02 <nirik> or more 17:13:04 <Khaytsus> Gotcha. 17:13:40 <nirik> randomuser: what did you want to add? 17:13:58 <randomuser> just curious, really. I could throw out big ideas about a git repo that feeds aliases and an explanatory wiki page, but if the demand isn't there, meh 17:14:17 <nirik> like and irc knowledge base? 17:14:29 <nirik> we have talked about that in the past... but it never really went anywhere 17:14:31 <Khaytsus> Along those lines.. It'd be nice if fedorasolved was back online 17:14:41 <randomuser> well, a reference for folks to know what they can do in #fedora with the bot 17:14:59 <EvilBob> Khaytsus: You willing to pay for it and hosting? 17:15:08 <randomuser> i know that @f20eol or something similar gives an eol date, but only by observation 17:15:15 <Khaytsus> It's already there and running; just broken. 17:15:25 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedbot 17:15:30 <randomuser> EvilBob, can you provide accurate hosting requirements 17:15:42 <randomuser> expected traffic stats, etc? 17:15:43 <Khaytsus> I doubt he can, he's just being snarky. 17:16:20 <nirik> I'd be happy to host the contents here at my house, but I don't want to run... Zope? whatever it's running. ;) 17:16:31 <randomuser> nirik, ah, exactly that page :) 17:16:52 <randomuser> I've offered to scrape out the content and host it differently too :P 17:17:12 <EvilBob> Well considering it's my domain I don't feel I'm just being snarky. 17:18:23 <nirik> anyhow, perhaps that discussion should be outside this meeting? 17:18:32 <EvilBob> Yes it should 17:19:04 <EvilBob> Not that it is possible to have a discussion with Khaytsus IME 17:19:07 <randomuser> *nod* - the idea is out there, whoever owns it can take action or not 17:19:40 <nirik> alrighty. Anything else for open floor? 17:19:49 <nirik> if not, will close out in a minute or two 17:21:39 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 17:21:42 <nirik> #endmeeting