17:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2016-06-02)
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17:00:02 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
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17:00:02 <nirik> #topic init process
17:00:13 <nirik> who all is around for a irc support sig meeting?
17:01:19 <striker> .hello striker
17:01:20 <zodbot> striker: striker 'None' <striker@redhat.com>
17:01:24 <striker> >.>
17:01:27 <striker> .hello strikerttd
17:01:28 <zodbot> striker: strikerttd 'Striker Leggette' <striker@terranforge.com>
17:01:34 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello jbwillia
17:01:35 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@yahoo.com>
17:03:06 * nirik will wait a few more min
17:04:10 <Khaytsus> Whatever I did, I didn't do it.  It was the cat.
17:04:19 <nirik> clearly. ;)
17:04:49 <nirik> anything to note about current issues or problems?
17:04:53 <nirik> or everything pretty normal?
17:05:36 <vwbusguy> heya
17:05:48 <vwbusguy> .hello vwbusguy
17:05:48 <zodbot> vwbusguy: vwbusguy 'Scott Williams' <vwfoxguru@gmail.com>
17:06:00 <nirik> Note that f24 is now in the final runup to release... and updates-testing is now being turned off. Some people may need to run a dnf distro-sync to downgrade to the non testing stuff
17:06:38 <vwbusguy> nirik, still requires --allow-erase right?
17:06:52 <nirik> not normally I don't think
17:07:21 <vwbusguy> even if downgrading?
17:07:26 <Southern_Gentlem> notthing more than fedy and bsd trolls
17:07:42 <nirik> thats only needed if you are totally removing some package... which isn't normally the case.
17:07:50 <Khaytsus> Did fedbot get changed over or is that pending?
17:07:52 <nirik> ie if there's obsoletes, etc
17:08:00 <nirik> thats next on the agenda...
17:08:09 <nirik> #topic Bot changes
17:08:24 <nirik> so, a bit of history:
17:08:47 <nirik> First there was supybot, then they stopped developing very fast, and some folks forked that to make supybot-gribble...
17:09:09 <nirik> thats what fedbot (and zodbot) are now. But they also have stopped really doing any maintaining/developing.
17:09:39 <nirik> I found yet a new fork of supybot-gribble called Limnoria
17:09:53 <nirik> It seems to be reasonably active and fixing things and adding features, etc.
17:09:58 <nirik> https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria
17:10:12 <vwbusguy> When a problem comes along, you must fork it..
17:10:34 <nirik> also, when looking around, I found: https://github.com/ncoevoet/ChanTracker
17:10:47 <nirik> which seems to do lots of things we would want and be also maintained.
17:11:07 <nirik> so, I'd like to switch fedbot (probibly this weekend when it's quiet) over to those...
17:11:17 <nirik> it would be some workflow changes, but I think it will end up good.
17:11:25 <Southern_Gentlem> +1
17:11:30 <vwbusguy> nirik, I wonder if supybot is slowing down because it's maturing and there's not much more to add.
17:11:40 <nirik> That plugin keeps a db of people so we can know when and why someone was banned or the like
17:11:47 <nirik> it also does flood control and such
17:11:54 <vwbusguy> nirik, I like the commands of that plugin
17:12:09 <nirik> vwbusguy: well, things break and no one fixes them... like google. ;)
17:12:17 <Khaytsus> I'm +1 as long as we're gaining maintenance and not losing features.  :)
17:12:24 <nirik> fedbot: lucky fedora project
17:12:25 <fedbot> nirik: Error: We broke The Google!
17:12:28 <Khaytsus> Or not losing _important_ features
17:12:47 <nirik> also the Chantracker can support timed things with $a
17:12:55 <nirik> which I know we have wanted for a while.
17:13:03 <Southern_Gentlem> its niriks bot and i thank him for running it for the good of the community, and if says thats what is needed so be it
17:13:51 <nirik> things like aliases and such should all just keep working
17:14:03 <nirik> if things break horribly we can go back
17:14:14 <vwbusguy> Southern_Gentlem, +1
17:14:24 <nirik> I also have a package ready for it, so will push it into fedora/epel review to replace supybot gribble there
17:14:49 <nirik> one interesting twist: this version can run with python3... but not all plugins are yet ported to python3
17:15:03 <Southern_Gentlem> of course
17:15:04 <nirik> will have to consider if we want python2 for now or not
17:15:46 <nirik> anyhow, thats the plan...
17:15:53 <Southern_Gentlem> py2 for now if needed
17:15:59 <nirik> we will also need testing of it from everyone to fix anything thats not working
17:16:33 <Southern_Gentlem> i say sooner than later so when f24 is released we know what we are doing with it
17:16:39 <nirik> amusingly it has also it's own package mangement... you can enable repos of plugins and download and run them. Crazy.
17:16:54 <nirik> yeah... can do it thiis weekend
17:17:24 <nirik> just wanted to give everyone a heads up, etc. ;)
17:17:28 <nirik> anything else on this?
17:17:34 <Southern_Gentlem> so that gives us roughly a week for testing before the f24 release
17:18:04 <nirik> yeah.
17:18:15 <nirik> If there's not a slip
17:18:39 <Southern_Gentlem> install this weekend test and if needed roll back next weekend?
17:19:02 <nirik> sure. rolling back should be easy.
17:19:06 <nirik> if needed
17:19:33 * Southern_Gentlem washes nirik's hands in 1000 Gallons of purel for typing such a nasty word
17:19:35 <Khaytsus> Will the aliases etc match before, or syntax changes ?
17:19:51 <nirik> aliases should be exactly the same
17:19:54 <Khaytsus> Southern_Gentlem: But he had to say "python"
17:20:07 <Southern_Gentlem> Khaytsus,  no that 4 letter word
17:20:20 <Southern_Gentlem> sl*p
17:20:27 <Khaytsus> Serial Line IP
17:20:29 <nirik> sure? :)
17:20:50 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
17:21:04 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor? ideas, questions, etc?
17:21:06 <Southern_Gentlem> no Striker,nb and I will be at SELF and we want to demo f24 next weekend
17:21:06 <Khaytsus> Will the new bot not ban people for joining when +R?
17:21:09 * Khaytsus runs like heck
17:21:17 <nirik> Khaytsus: har.
17:21:31 <nirik> Southern_Gentlem: cool.
17:21:38 <Southern_Gentlem> Khaytsus,  yep
17:22:25 <Southern_Gentlem> nirik,  the plan is to grab the isos when f24 goes gold create a multi-boot and demo on machines at the con
17:22:29 <striker> I will have a laptop demoing IPA master/replica setup on Fedora at the Fedora table for some time
17:22:41 <striker> and maybe even IPA to Active Directory trust setup
17:22:58 <nirik> striker: oh reminds me, can you update that ticket for cloud stuff? puiterwijk asked you some things in there I think...
17:23:04 <striker> I think nb was interested in seeing users authing using AD credentials through an IPA trust to some other client
17:23:20 <nirik> cool
17:23:28 <striker> nirik: actually, RH finally agreed to loan me a laptop powerful enough to do all of this through KVM
17:23:54 <striker> I won't need the openstack stuff now
17:24:01 <nirik> oh, alrighty then. I guess we can close that ticket
17:24:04 <Southern_Gentlem> so yes striker nb and I will not be paying close attention to the channel next weekend
17:24:05 <striker> yes
17:25:03 <Southern_Gentlem> though an openstack instance to track the updated lives would be nice
17:25:25 <nirik> track?
17:25:29 <striker> yes, that ^ specific ticket needs to be addressed :)
17:25:32 <striker> a torrent tracker
17:25:46 <Southern_Gentlem> opentracker
17:25:49 <nirik> ah.
17:26:03 <nirik> opentracker sucks, but then so do all the rest. ;)
17:26:18 <Southern_Gentlem> it has worked great for us
17:26:26 <striker> yes, we got it working fine
17:26:43 <striker> I even had a nice web interface up at one point to show seed/leech satistics
17:27:01 <striker> statistics, even
17:27:03 <nirik> yeah. It works... everything is compile time, but it does work. ;)
17:27:20 <nirik> anyhow, anything else for open floor?
17:28:03 <nirik> alrighty, thanks for coming everyone!
17:28:06 <nirik> #endmeeting