15:01:42 <stoney> #startmeeting IRC 3 15:01:42 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Jan 4 15:01:42 2019 UTC. 15:01:42 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:01:42 <zodbot> The chair is stoney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:42 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:42 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc_3' 15:01:55 <stoney> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_3 agenda 15:02:13 <stoney> #topic Rollcall 15:02:27 <stoney> Please info up your information so we know who is participating today 15:02:39 <stoney> #info Stoney Jackson, Western New England University 15:02:44 <lorip> #info Lori Postner, Nassau Community College 15:02:46 <stoney> #chair lorip 15:02:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: lorip stoney 15:03:02 <hunter_> #info Hunter Johnson, John Jay College 15:03:10 <Rob_Domanski> #info Rob Domanski, NYC government (and CUNY) 15:03:11 <SharonP> #info Sharon Persinger, Bronx Community College 15:04:09 <stoney> hi steve_ ... you're just in time for rollcall 15:04:22 <stoney> if you'll be participating please #info your information 15:05:05 <steve_> #info Steve, Lehman College 15:05:11 <stoney> awesome, thanks! 15:05:28 <stoney> I that's probably all for today 15:05:35 <stoney> Welcome 15:05:43 <steve_> Okay 15:05:47 <stoney> I hope everyone has been enjoying the holidays! :) 15:06:03 <stoney> #topic Discuss progress 15:06:16 <stoney> First up, how are things going on stage 1 activities? 15:06:27 <stoney> where are you? and do you have questions? 15:07:28 <SharonP> I'm way behind, and finding they take much more time than estimated. 15:07:33 <stoney> oh and the agenda for this meeting is here: http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_3 15:08:00 <hunter_> I'm behind as well. But today I have some time to work on these. 15:08:14 <Rob_Domanski> I'm cruising along, about to finish Stage 1B, which I believe is all that's necessary to complete before the in-person workshop next week, right? 15:08:30 <stoney> SharonP they certainly can... set a time limit and stick to it. If you can't get any more done within the allotted time, move on. 15:09:05 <lorip> Rob_Domanski - there is 1C as well 15:09:13 <lorip> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Stage_1_Activities#Part_C 15:10:11 <Rob_Domanski> Ah, glad I asked. I was under the impression we would be doing 1C in-person. 15:10:22 <stoney> thanks lorip ! 15:10:27 <stoney> forgot the link :) 15:10:40 <lorip> me too! sorry for the confusion - C.3 will be important for next week 15:11:03 <lorip> and C.2 is a github activity which will also help with our face-to-face meeting 15:11:16 <stoney> be sure to complete the git activity... you'll want git installed before you arrive at the workshop... there will be some hands-on activities during the workshop that use git 15:11:23 <stoney> and github :) 15:11:35 <stoney> what lorip said :) 15:11:37 <steve_> I am behind too but I have been catching up this week. I am in Stage 1B 15:12:38 <stoney> awesome, there is still time to catch up :) 15:12:45 <lorip> we know that the end of the semester/term is hectic, glad you are finding time to catch up! 15:13:00 <lorip> ajan - can you do a quick intro? 15:14:34 <stoney> shall we move to the next topic? 15:15:03 <stoney> #topic Discuss the results of B.4 and C.3 (FOSS in Courses Planning I and II) 15:15:41 <stoney> what are you'all thinking about regarding your classes and hfoss? any ideas, thoughts? 15:16:26 <lorip> these will be used during our face to face meeting 15:16:40 <lorip> the agenda for it is at #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Stage_2_Activities 15:16:41 <SharonP> Im still in the "looking for ideas" stage. 15:17:03 <lorip> SharonP - what course do you hope to target? 15:17:22 <SharonP> CS 2 OOP in Python 15:17:44 <hunter_> Do you tie HFOSS projects into standard CS courses (eg Algorithms, etc) or cover them in capstone courses? I can see doing it either way, I just wonder if you've found a particular venue that works well. 15:18:34 <lorip> SharonP one option is to use an HFOSS project as a case study - to look at example code, use for tracing, etc. 15:19:03 <stoney> hunter_ capstone and software engineering courses are the easiest to incorporate 15:19:17 <Rob_Domanski> I find it very easy to get lost in the big existing projects like Ushahidi, and I feel like it would especially be so for intro students. Instead I was thinking of creating my own simpler HFOSS project and design a few activities - some coding, some data collection - and build it out from there. 15:19:25 <lorip> hunter_ I believe people who have tied it into a software engineering or capstone have been most successful, but I teach at a 2 year school that doesn't have either of those courses 15:19:32 <SharonP> That's a good suggestion. I'll spend time looking at code. 15:19:51 <lorip> we've tied it into our mobile app class as well as given homework assignments in our CS1 & CS2 15:19:54 <stoney> in earlier courses one can look for code artifacts that implement or use data structures or algorithms, or that demonstrate good or bad coding styples 15:20:00 <stoney> *styles* 15:20:18 <hunter_> yes, we don't have SE as a course designation and because of our emphasis on cybersecurity our capstone is usually intensively devoted to that. But perhaps there's some project that gives some synergy there. 15:20:49 <lorip> SharonP - I believe Ushahidi is in Python and someone mentioned civiccrm on our last IRC which I believe is Python as well 15:21:33 <stoney> hunter_ I think I remember someone performing a security analysis of a project and giving the results back to the project's community 15:21:39 <lorip> stoney - didn't steven crain do a bunch of activities around cybersecurity? 15:21:49 <hunter_> that's a great suggestion! 15:21:53 <stoney> lorip maybe that's who I was thinking of 15:22:06 * stoney is very bad at recalling names 15:22:13 <lorip> Rob_Domanski - yes, big projects can be daunting 15:22:40 <lorip> one of the things we are looking into is faculty-led projects as well as project playground/sandboxes 15:22:49 <lorip> did you have a project idea in mind? 15:23:01 <lorip> and what course did you hope to incorporate it into? 15:24:27 <stoney> lorip's question is a good transition to the next topic... 15:24:29 <stoney> #topic Sign up for Stage 2 groups 15:24:55 <lorip> hunter - take a look at #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Category:Privacy_and_Security 15:25:06 <lorip> I believe those are the security activities I was thinking of... 15:25:08 <stoney> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Stage2_Groups signups for stage 2 groups 15:25:16 <hunter_> cool, thank you 15:25:54 <Rob_Domanski> In many intro CS0) courses there is a module on basic HTML, CSS, and Javascript. I was thinking of creating a project centered on a website that would display information for local homeless shelters in the area. Then incentivize students to contribute both by writing some simple code (Javascript, probably) and colelcting information on the shelters that could be included on the page with the Google Maps API, and things like 15:25:57 <stoney> If you haven't done so, please sign up for stage 2 groups 15:25:59 <Rob_Domanski> Need to flesh the idea out more. 15:26:08 <stoney> these will be used to organize some sessions during stage 15:26:10 <stoney> 2 15:26:11 <stoney> :) 15:26:40 <stoney> Rob_Domanski cool idea! 15:27:20 <Rob_Domanski> Thanks! 15:27:21 <lorip> Rob_Domanski - very cool idea! I'm wondering if this could be a Ushahidi deployment... 15:28:29 <lorip> but that probably wouldn't work with the course objectives :) 15:29:17 <stoney> ok... next topic :) 15:29:21 <stoney> #topic Enter your arrival and departure times 15:29:31 <stoney> you don't need to do this :) 15:29:40 <lorip> just a quick reminder, please sign up for one of those stage 2 groups 15:29:41 <stoney> I just thought I'd make a point of saying that here :) 15:29:56 <stoney> right... do sign up for stage 2 groups 15:30:13 <stoney> you don't need to tell us about your arrival times :) 15:30:28 <stoney> last topic :) 15:30:30 <stoney> #topic Please make sure to arrive at Stage 2 15:30:43 <stoney> ... with git installed :) 15:30:44 <lorip> oops, and we forgot to remind people to log your stage 1 activity in the google sheet #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HvgclSLZE4f1fDrw9S7ywP6MrMsAaWjWXATQ3W7H3Wg/edit#gid=0 15:30:45 <stoney> lol 15:31:19 <lorip> and you will need your github login info too! 15:31:59 <stoney> Right... I think completing C2 will make sure you are ready with respects to git and GitHub 15:32:16 <lorip> and questions about local arrangements for next week? 15:32:31 <stoney> #topic Q&A 15:32:36 * lorip thinking I hope hunter will be able to answer those! 15:32:50 <Rob_Domanski> Do we know the room number at John Jay where to go? 15:32:51 <stoney> What other questions do you all have? 15:33:00 <stoney> that's a good one :) 15:33:04 <stoney> lorip? 15:33:13 * lorip looking... 15:33:25 <SharonP> just basics - location at JJ? 15:33:26 <hunter_> Oh yes 15:33:42 <hunter_> We'll be on the 6th floor of what we call the New Building (inspired name) 15:33:56 <hunter_> It's at the corner of 11th ave and 59th st 15:33:57 <lorip> Room 6.67 15:34:07 <SharonP> got it 15:34:09 <hunter_> That's right we'll start in 6.67 15:34:18 <hunter_> I think we also have some activities planned in 6.61 15:34:27 <hunter_> Both of those are labs on the east side of the floor 15:34:31 <lorip> hunter_ is there any particular place we need to enter in terms of security? 15:35:04 <hunter_> Yes, you'll have to go through a security checkpoint. This involves showing your ID and saying where you're going. If you have any trouble with that please text me 15:35:09 <hunter_> 301.706.5654 15:35:20 <lorip> we will have a light breakfast starting at 8:30am 15:35:41 <hunter_> It's important to have the room 6.67 on hand for security because they will ask the name of the room you're visiting. 15:35:57 <lorip> lunch will be at JJ and dinner will be out at Greek Kitchen - you should have already let Heidi know if you can attend dinner or not 15:36:09 <lorip> thanks hunter_! 15:37:06 <lorip> hunter_ random question - are your rooms typically cold or hot? 15:37:30 <hunter_> they are always uncomfortable, but never in the same way twice. Just kidding. They are usually hot 15:37:38 <stoney> lol 15:37:48 <lorip> lol 15:37:59 <stoney> awesome... anything else? 15:38:06 <lorip> we will post additional information on the agenda page #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Stage_2_Activities 15:38:19 <lorip> and will probably send out an email with last minute details 15:38:42 <lorip> but please feel free to email any of us as you work on stage 1 activities or if you have any questions 15:39:18 <stoney> with that... I think we have reached the end of our agenda 15:39:22 <stoney> thanks all! 15:39:25 <hunter_> thank you 15:39:27 <stoney> we'll see you soon! 15:39:33 <stoney> #endmeeting