22:35:06 <echevemaster> #startmeeting
22:35:06 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jul  2 22:35:06 2014 UTC.  The chair is echevemaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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22:35:19 <mayorga> .hellmynameis mayorga
22:35:28 <mayorga> .hellomynameis mayorga
22:35:30 <echevemaster> #chair aeperezt mayorga williamjmorenor
22:35:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt echevemaster mayorga williamjmorenor
22:35:31 <zodbot> mayorga: mayorga 'Eduardo Mayorga Téllez' <e@mayorgalinux.com>
22:35:49 <echevemaster> #meetingname Latam Ambassadors meeting
22:35:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'latam_ambassadors_meeting'
22:35:55 <echevemaster> #topic roll call
22:36:06 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster
22:36:07 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
22:36:18 <williamjmorenor> .fas williamjmorenor
22:36:19 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
22:36:23 * echevemaster Venezuela
22:36:34 <williamjmorenor> Nicaragua
22:36:55 <firemanxbr> .fasinfo firemanxbr
22:36:56 <zodbot> firemanxbr: User: firemanxbr, Name: Marcelo Barbosa, email: mr.marcelo.barbosa@gmail.com, Creation: 2012-10-09, IRC Nick: firemanxbr, Timezone: America/Sao_Paulo, Locale: en, GPG key ID: , Status: active
22:36:59 <ramilton> .fas ramilton
22:36:59 <zodbot> firemanxbr: Unapproved Groups: l10n-admin l10n-editor l10n-commits
22:37:01 <Cristhian> .fas Crisvann
22:37:02 <zodbot> firemanxbr: Approved Groups: +cvsl10n fedorabugs packager fedora-br ambassadors cla_done cla_fpca
22:37:04 * firemanxbr Brazil
22:37:05 <zodbot> ramilton: ramilton 'Ramilton Costa Gomes Júnior' <ramiltoncosta@gmail.com>
22:37:08 <zodbot> Cristhian: crisvann '' <cristhian.vanessa.g@gmail.com>
22:37:16 <Cristhian> Nicaragua
22:37:17 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
22:37:18 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com>
22:37:22 <ramilton> ramilton Brazil
22:37:22 <mayorga> #chair yn1v
22:37:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt echevemaster mayorga williamjmorenor yn1v
22:37:22 * yn1v Nicaragua
22:37:47 <firemanxbr> .fas firemanxbr
22:37:47 <echevemaster> #topic Meeting Agenda
22:37:47 <zodbot> firemanxbr: firemanxbr 'Marcelo Barbosa' <mr.marcelo.barbosa@gmail.com>
22:37:50 <dougsland> .fas dougsland
22:37:51 <zodbot> dougsland: dougsland 'Douglas Schilling Landgraf' <dougsland@redhat.com>
22:37:55 <echevemaster> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/report/9
22:38:36 <echevemaster> yn1v: it's all yours :)
22:39:15 <yn1v> I am looking at the agenda
22:40:30 <itamar_> .fas itamarjp
22:40:31 <zodbot> itamar_: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
22:40:44 <firemanxbr> I've read
22:40:45 <yn1v> we have 3 groups of things on agenda
22:41:05 <yn1v> flock, latinoware and some events at Nicaragua
22:41:09 * itamar_ el nuevo Papa Peruano
22:41:28 <yn1v> I will like to start by latinoware
22:41:40 <echevemaster> pap� o papa? itamar_ .)
22:41:46 <williamjmorenor> flock vas voted for Fasmco
22:41:55 <williamjmorenor> last meeting
22:42:04 <itamar_> yn1v what are the deadline for filling latinoware tickets ?
22:42:33 <echevemaster> itamar_: that deadline should be proposed for the event owner?
22:42:34 <yn1v> I am not sure, I did not make that call
22:42:37 <itamar_> echevemaster, I have failed in spanish exam.
22:42:46 <echevemaster> who is the event owner?
22:42:51 <echevemaster> itamar_: no problem bro :)
22:43:09 <echevemaster> ramilton you are the event owner?
22:43:18 <yn1v> exactly, who is in charge of latinoware?
22:43:28 <yn1v> there is a event entry on the wiki?
22:43:30 <itamar_> me and ramilton
22:43:43 <echevemaster> Daniel Lara
22:43:44 <echevemaster> Ramilton Costa Gomes J�nior
22:43:44 <echevemaster> Itamar Reis Peixoto
22:43:53 <ramilton> o itamar, daniel lara e eu
22:43:54 <echevemaster> according to the event wiki page.
22:44:06 <echevemaster> ok, ramilton itamar_ when is the deadline?
22:44:07 <TonetJallo> .fas tonet666p
22:44:08 <zodbot> TonetJallo: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' <tonet666p@gmail.com>
22:44:11 <yn1v> echevemaster, please add the link for the log
22:44:12 * TonetJallo Peru
22:44:23 <itamar_> we need to set a deadline date for filling tickets, and propose a date for voting
22:44:25 <echevemaster> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Latinoware_2014
22:44:46 <echevemaster> btw, what is the available budget for latinoware?
22:45:32 <ramilton> pelo que eu vi é de 3 mil dollares
22:45:43 <yn1v> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Budget_2015#Q3_.28September_-_November_2014.29
22:46:03 <echevemaster> ok
22:46:14 <yn1v> it was planned $3000 but it has not been allocated under the current budget
22:46:18 <echevemaster> #info Latinoware budget is USD $3000
22:46:24 <itamar_> ramilton, até quando iremos esperar para que as pessoas abram tickets referentes ao latinoware ?
22:46:43 <ramilton> até a proxima reunião itamar
22:46:59 <echevemaster> ok please dates
22:46:59 <ramilton> só peço que vote o ticket da hospedagem
22:47:38 * mribeirodantas Brazil
22:47:43 <mribeirodantas> .fasinfo mribeirodantas
22:47:44 <zodbot> mribeirodantas: User: mribeirodantas, Name: Marcel Ribeiro Dantas, email: ribeirodantasdm@gmail.com, Creation: 2013-04-28, IRC Nick: mribeirodantas, Timezone: America/Fortaleza, Locale: pt_BR, GPG key ID: , Status: active
22:47:46 <yn1v> #info latinoware October 15 to 17, 2014
22:47:46 <zodbot> mribeirodantas: Unapproved Groups: marketing l10n-commits l10n-editor
22:47:49 <zodbot> mribeirodantas: Approved Groups: +cvsl10n docs-writers fedorabugs docs videos freemedia ambassadors cla_done cla_fpca
22:47:54 <echevemaster> ramilton: ticket?
22:48:22 <ramilton> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/231
22:48:22 <ramilton> esse ticket echevemaster
22:48:36 <ramilton> pois tenho que reservar o hotel
22:48:36 <echevemaster> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/231
22:48:44 <ramilton> esse mesmo.
22:48:56 <echevemaster> yn1v: we can vote for that ticket today? what do you think?
22:49:17 <ramilton> outra coisa, tem dois tickets que só pedem hospedagem. acho que esse podemos votar hoje também
22:49:25 <firemanxbr> I need votting my ticket #233, I have other event in same date(13, 14 and 15) after I wish to Latinoware
22:49:38 <ramilton> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/228
22:49:51 <ramilton> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/232
22:50:10 <ramilton> esses dois só precisa de hotel
22:50:18 <yn1v> The issue is that we have allocated $3750 for that quarter and the requested funds for latinoware is $3000
22:50:21 <firemanxbr> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/233 (my ticket)
22:50:36 <echevemaster> wait, wait, if the dealine is for the next week we can't vote today for the people.
22:50:38 <williamjmorenor> :-/
22:50:50 <itamar_> yn1v, when the next quarter starts ?
22:50:55 <yn1v> so it is almost all the quarter budget
22:51:04 <mribeirodantas> yn1v: so?
22:51:38 <yn1v> the quarter begins in september
22:51:45 <mribeirodantas> We're not taking 3000 out of 3750 for latinoware. We're attempting to take 3000 out of 3000, which is the requested budget of Latinoware.
22:51:58 <itamar_> latinoware date  =  15 a 17 de outubro de 2014
22:52:01 <mribeirodantas> If I understood it well, you made it sound like 3000 is too much or sometihng
22:52:16 <mribeirodantas> sorry, if I understood it wrnog.
22:52:22 <yn1v> but the whole budget for the quarter is supposed to be 3750
22:52:38 <mribeirodantas> yn1v: is it a problem?
22:52:41 <mribeirodantas> I'm not getting your point.
22:53:10 <yn1v> are we going to invest most of the quarter budget in one event?
22:53:11 <echevemaster> that just leave 750 for that quarter.. that is the issue- mribeirodantas
22:53:23 <mribeirodantas> so what?
22:53:33 <mribeirodantas> Everybody joined together to build teh budget request
22:53:42 <mribeirodantas> We asked for 3k for latinoware. It was given.
22:53:57 <mribeirodantas> if there is budget missing for something else, it's something we can discuss.
22:53:59 <ramilton> mais esse pedido foi solicitado a muito tempo echevemaster
22:54:02 <yn1v> the total request for the quarter is 6720
22:54:06 <mribeirodantas> But there isn't a problem in using what we requested
22:54:33 <yn1v> there other request not only latinoware
22:54:34 <mribeirodantas> yn1v: do you have the sheet with these values? I think they're of extreme importance for this discussion
22:54:35 <ramilton> eu entendo o problema. mais já deveria ter deixado o dinheiro para o evento
22:54:47 <mribeirodantas> ramilton: 60% do budget foi aprovado
22:54:53 <yn1v> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Budget_2015#Q3_.28September_-_November_2014.29
22:54:56 <firemanxbr> Hi, please consider voting my ticke, I have other event before Latinoware which I will be flying from my city to Floripa and the sponsor of this event buy the ticket from Floripa to Latinoware but I need the confirmation that I will have a place to stay and the fly back
22:55:00 <mribeirodantas> Budget completo. Eles estão querendo também baixar para 60% o do latinoware.
22:55:09 <firemanxbr> They are waiting my position, that's why I would like to vote this one today.
22:55:14 <firemanxbr> thankz
22:55:23 <itamar_> I propose to set a deadline for filling latinoware tickets to next week 09-july
22:55:44 <itamar_> and continue the talk about latinoware in 16-july
22:55:52 <mribeirodantas> I'd like to take the chance to say I won't request financial support from Fedora this year. I've asked a lot, in my opinion, and others should have the chance to do it.
22:55:53 <firemanxbr> itamar_, I need feedback to other event
22:55:55 <mribeirodantas> _o>
22:56:00 <mribeirodantas> year anymore*
22:56:19 <mribeirodantas> That's something itamar_ did and I felt induced to follow his steps.
22:56:52 <mribeirodantas> Now, I see the issue, yn1v.
22:56:59 <echevemaster> yn1v: is latinoware budget complete approved?
22:57:02 <itamar_> firemanxbr, please don't make pressure,
22:57:08 <mribeirodantas> So from 6120, only 3750 was given, yn1v ?
22:57:36 <firemanxbr> itamar_, I wish one position.
22:57:54 <firemanxbr> itamar_, it's not pressure, I can save money from Fedora if we can get approval today. That's all.
22:58:00 <itamar_> firemanxbr, me 2 and others 2, making pressure won't help.
22:59:26 <echevemaster> mribeirodantas: did not depend of neville, did depend of fpl. you know. (if was approved 3750, for that quarter), so take it easy
22:59:38 <mribeirodantas> echevemaster: It has nothing to do with the FPL.
22:59:42 <mribeirodantas> Anyway, I have a suggestion
22:59:55 <yn1v> go ahead mribeirodantas
23:00:02 <mribeirodantas> approximately 62% of the budget was approved. So a fair solution would be to offer 62% of what everybody asked.
23:00:10 <ramilton> echevemaster e ynlv.  Acho que podemos votar esses dois tickets. Eles não precisam de transportes só de hospedagem
23:00:12 <ramilton> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/232
23:00:28 <ramilton> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/228
23:00:34 <dougsland> ramilton, if we do vote these two we need to vote of firemanx which want to save Fedora money.
23:00:50 <mribeirodantas> If ramilton asked 100, he would get 62. If for Latinoware, 3000 was asked, 1860 is gonna be given.
23:01:14 <itamar_> dougsland++ ramilton, sem pressionar, vamos com calma
23:01:19 <mribeirodantas> That's a pretty just and quick solution. However, I'd also consider getting in touch with wranglers for those other events to make sure they will REALLY need and use the money.
23:01:34 <ramilton> ok. Itamar
23:01:36 <yn1v> I think we can move in that direction
23:01:56 <ramilton> voce esta certo dougsland
23:02:02 <yn1v> probably it can be allocated $2000
23:02:26 <echevemaster> ok, wise decision
23:02:44 <echevemaster> we can allocate now something of that on the accomodation?
23:02:52 <yn1v> I think if we can make a early payment for hotel we can put some money from this quarter
23:02:53 <echevemaster> or on the people that have ticketS?
23:03:22 <echevemaster> perfect..
23:03:28 <itamar_> we should think about hotel after we know how many people would like to attend latinoware.
23:03:40 <itamar_> for that reason I proposed a deadline for filling tickets for next week
23:03:59 <yn1v> yes, and we have time
23:04:13 <echevemaster> people, so decide something?
23:04:19 <ramilton> +1 itamar_
23:04:33 <echevemaster> ok, we are agreed for the next week?
23:05:00 <firemanxbr> itamar_, ano passado foi isso também votamos os quartos sem votar nos tickets e tivemos que equalizar depois, sem sentido essa estratégia.
23:05:02 <ramilton> votamos então o hotel hoje e os tickets a proxima semana
23:05:06 <yn1v> itamar_, can you make a spread sheet with summary of the amounts requested?
23:05:20 <itamar_> yn1v, yes
23:05:35 <echevemaster> itamar_: you have 10 seconds.
23:05:37 <echevemaster> hahahha
23:05:49 <yn1v> firemanxbr, you ticket has amount of 100
23:06:04 <yn1v> those are USD ?
23:06:16 <firemanxbr> yn1v, yes and more hotel
23:06:22 <firemanxbr> yn1v, USD
23:06:40 <firemanxbr> I have paid my travel for other event
23:06:52 <firemanxbr> I wish only return to my city
23:06:55 <yn1v> and you need to confirm that?
23:07:14 <echevemaster> I understand it..
23:07:28 <echevemaster> yn1v: is comprensible..
23:07:49 <firemanxbr> yn1v, yep
23:07:49 <yn1v> what people think about approving this partial subsidy now?
23:08:03 <echevemaster> +1
23:08:05 <echevemaster> me o/
23:08:21 <ramilton> +1
23:08:32 <dougsland> not a problem from my side
23:08:44 <ramilton> entao teremos que votar os dois tickets que só precisam do hotel ynlv
23:08:58 <firemanxbr> yn1v, thnkz
23:09:04 <yn1v> So, let carry on ... start vote for ticket 233
23:09:04 <ramilton> não tem gasto com viagem
23:09:09 <itamar_> my proposal is to vote tickets about latinoware only after 16 july
23:09:27 <echevemaster> #topic Ticket 233 funding request for firemanxbr https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/233
23:10:02 <echevemaster> please vote. I think that is special case. He just need return to their home..
23:10:21 <firemanxbr> echevemaster, exactly
23:10:40 <yn1v> itamar_, As this is something that deal with other event and needs confirmation I thought thta we can deal with it now.
23:10:53 <williamjmorenor> +1 for me
23:10:57 <echevemaster> +1 from em
23:10:59 <dougsland> yn1v, agreed with your words.
23:11:00 <echevemaster> me*
23:11:00 <dougsland> +1
23:11:08 <yn1v> +1
23:11:30 <ramilton> +1
23:11:31 <itamar_> +1 firemanxbr is doing a great work in fedora, no rushing next time....
23:12:04 <yn1v> we have enough votes.
23:12:07 <echevemaster> #agreed firemanxbr ticket was approved for latinoware for USD $100(+5,0,0)
23:12:16 <yn1v> #agreed to sponsor ticket 233
23:12:17 <firemanxbr> thankz
23:13:00 <yn1v> so itamar_  suggested that we delay latinoware, to get all request fill in
23:13:04 <ramilton> peço que votem os outros dois, o custo deles é bem menor do que firemanxbr
23:13:17 <firemanxbr> ramilton +1
23:14:03 <echevemaster> it is for accomodation, ramilton, right?
23:14:08 <yn1v> itamar_, ?
23:14:10 <ramilton> eles só precisam do hotel echevemaster e ynlv
23:14:36 <ramilton> isso mesmo echevemaster
23:14:38 <echevemaster> and they will stay the shared room? that you will book?
23:14:50 <yn1v> itamar_, said that we need to see how many people we are going to sponsor to approve hotel
23:15:02 <echevemaster> correct.
23:15:19 <yn1v> I think that most likely we will sponsor partial request, specially if they only reques hotel
23:15:31 <dougsland> ramilton, for example: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/228
23:15:48 <dougsland> this one I don't see the value needed in 	 Amount/Monto/Quantidade:
23:16:05 <echevemaster> ok.. today?
23:16:09 <echevemaster> if so, we can start..
23:16:10 <mribeirodantas> +1 for firemanxbr
23:17:00 <echevemaster> yn1v: what do you say? please give your order o7
23:17:02 <echevemaster> :)
23:17:05 <ramilton> dougsland esse ticket só precisa do hotel
23:17:22 <dougsland> ramilton, correto, mas qual valor e' preciso? Onde esta escrito la ?
23:17:25 <echevemaster> what is the hostel ammount? ramilton
23:17:35 <yn1v> I have a phone call :-(
23:17:37 <dougsland> ramilton, outra coisa, o eduardo comentou ali tmb que a descricao esta bem vaga.
23:17:43 <echevemaster> we need that ammount for sponsorship
23:17:45 <dougsland> e realmente concordo com o euardo.
23:17:48 <dougsland> *eduardo
23:18:06 <ramilton> só pedir para ele alterar o ticket e ser mais objetivo dougsland
23:18:17 <echevemaster> yes, we need a good description of the activties for each event ramilton
23:18:21 <dougsland> ramilton, correto, ou seja, esse ticket vai ser votado semana que vem?
23:18:36 <dougsland> ramilton, the same for https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/232
23:18:39 <dougsland> no Amount
23:18:50 <dougsland> guys, please continue the meeting.
23:18:51 <echevemaster> ok, then, next week?
23:18:56 <itamar_> 16 july
23:18:58 <echevemaster> ok.
23:19:01 <dougsland> if there are no amount we cannot approve
23:19:05 <dougsland> ramilton, sorry about that.
23:19:06 <ramilton> dougsland, nao vejo problema de votarem eles hoje
23:19:07 <itamar_> deadline for filling tickets 9 july
23:19:08 <itamar_> deal ?
23:19:23 <echevemaster> #info deadline for the latinoware was be for July 16th
23:19:26 <dougsland> ramilton, mas como vamos aprovar sem saber os valores?
23:19:32 <echevemaster> #undo
23:19:32 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by echevemaster at 23:19:23 : deadline for the latinoware was be for July 16th
23:19:39 <echevemaster> #info deadline for the latinoware was be for July 9th
23:19:46 <ramilton> dougsland o valor é do hotel
23:19:49 <yn1v> I am back
23:20:00 <dougsland> ramilton, certo e qual e' o valor do hotel?
23:20:00 <ramilton> não tem como eles saberem quanto vao pagar de hotel
23:20:06 <echevemaster> ramilton: yes, but what is that amount.
23:20:16 <dougsland> ramilton, tem sim, ligando pro hotel e fazendo uma pre-reserva
23:20:17 <echevemaster> ?
23:20:23 <yn1v> we are going to sponsor the hotel, but we need to figure out how many people are we sponsosring
23:20:39 <ramilton> dougsland, todos vao ficar no mesmo hotel
23:20:40 <dougsland> yn1v, IMO, we need to know the amount.
23:20:48 <dougsland> if there is no amount, how can we approve?
23:20:51 <ramilton> como fizemos o ano passado
23:20:58 <echevemaster> it is mandataory know the amount.
23:21:33 <echevemaster> at least in the ticket..
23:21:36 <dougsland> ramilton, ok, my vote is -1 until we get the amount. If others decide to give +1.
23:21:37 <dougsland> it's ok
23:21:42 <yn1v> amont of money for hotel depends on the amount of people
23:21:46 <ramilton> pelo wki nos temos 8 pessoas solicitando hotel
23:21:59 <echevemaster> so, ramilton please ask to this people update their tickets with the ammount
23:22:16 <echevemaster> or you, call to the hostel and ask for the amounts
23:22:18 <echevemaster> easy.
23:22:18 <ramilton> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Latinoware_2014
23:22:19 <itamar_> ramilton, how much costs the hotel/hostel for 8 fedora folks ?
23:22:58 <ramilton> 1760 reais itamar
23:23:06 <ramilton> fica 55 por pessoa 4 dias
23:23:17 <ramilton> ou seja mais ou menos 25 dollares
23:23:28 <itamar_> $2000 of budget is not enough to sponsor 8 persons, $3000 probably not enough too because we now have some intl guys filling tickets this year.
23:23:32 <ramilton> ainda temos o onibus que leva e traz a gente do evento
23:24:14 <ramilton> eu entendo. então vamos fazer o seguinte. cada um entao procure o seu hotel.
23:24:15 <itamar_> hotel costs = R$ 1760 = $700 usd less to sponsor people
23:24:31 <ramilton> vou mandar um email cancelando a reserva.
23:24:54 <yn1v> what about if we sponsor travel or hotel
23:25:40 <yn1v> we look next week to see if makes ense to sponsor hotel for those that only have requested hotel, and see if those that request travel can deal with accomodation on their own
23:25:51 <echevemaster> +1 yn1v
23:25:51 <yn1v> so we help a bit more people?
23:26:50 <yn1v> I am just looking for solution, not sure if that is fair, is just practical
23:26:52 <ramilton> +1
23:27:03 <dougsland> +1
23:27:06 <echevemaster> +1
23:27:08 <dougsland> we can decide next week
23:27:19 <echevemaster> ok, decided.
23:27:19 <ramilton> ynlv, estarei cancelando o hotel e cada um faz sua cotação. e coloca no ticket
23:27:23 <yn1v> yes, we can decide next week with more info
23:27:35 <itamar_> yn1v +1 for next week
23:27:41 <yn1v> ramilton, can you hold that one week ?
23:27:45 <firemanxbr> +1
23:27:47 <echevemaster> please go ahead with the next topic
23:28:12 <dougsland> ramilton, would be nice to have the value per person in the ticket and the amount per group (8)
23:28:13 <williamjmorenor> +1
23:28:19 <dougsland> if we have budget to cover the 8 OK
23:28:23 <ramilton> sim ynlv
23:28:26 <dougsland> if not, some will go based in the ticket
23:28:28 <yn1v> ramilton, because maybe we will need one room, so better hold until next week
23:28:28 <dougsland> amount
23:28:59 <ramilton> ok ynlv
23:29:04 <itamar_> next topic please...
23:29:13 <dougsland> itamar_, agreed
23:29:18 <yn1v> next topic is to review ticket 225
23:29:26 <firemanxbr> ok
23:29:37 <yn1v> that was passed to FAmSCo to approve
23:30:06 <yn1v> it was agreed in famsco to allocate the amount proposed
23:30:21 <dougsland> oh, cool.
23:30:22 <yn1v> of $2000 for flock to the request made by echevemaster
23:30:53 <itamar_> yn1v, can you buy the echevemaster tickets ?
23:31:32 <yn1v> yes, I can do it
23:31:49 <echevemaster> the last image was the most cheap...
23:31:52 <itamar_> yn1v, also I have another question, echevemaster lives in venezuela and its very hard to exchange money for dollars, buying dollars in venezuela costs the blood
23:32:15 <yn1v> yes, I know that there are some other issues
23:32:15 <itamar_> yn1v, can echevemaster use the rest of money for other expenses, like food or something.
23:32:19 <itamar_> ?
23:32:38 <yn1v> yes, I was about to said that to sponsor hotel in the university dorms
23:32:47 <yn1v> with the remaining budget
23:32:57 * dougsland looking forward to see the Eduardo's report from flock. :)
23:33:31 <itamar_> yn1v there are more economics tickets from bogota,
23:33:38 <itamar_> echevemaster can you fly from bogotá ?
23:33:45 <echevemaster> I can pay for my meals but not for the hotel, so I want to ask you for it. :) wi the remaining budget..
23:33:58 <yn1v> yes, but it means that eduardo need to travel farther on his expenses
23:34:00 <echevemaster> itamar_: I have to arrive to cucuta, that is the border with my country
23:34:13 <echevemaster> cucuta to bogota is 16 hours in bus
23:34:20 <echevemaster> in fligt is one hour..
23:34:38 <itamar_> echevemaster, how far from bogota ?
23:34:50 <echevemaster> 16 hrs in car
23:34:58 <dougsland> ouch
23:35:14 <echevemaster> +16 from my city to cucuta.
23:35:15 <echevemaster> :)
23:35:26 <yn1v> can you do the math? because probably it will cost the same adding the flight form cucuta to bogota and will extend more hours to the travel
23:35:36 <dougsland> yn1v, +1
23:36:04 <echevemaster> correct
23:36:23 <yn1v> not sure I think it will be good to add 32 bus hours to a transatlantic flight
23:36:26 <echevemaster> I will to arrive to cucuta and there I will take the flight
23:36:50 <dougsland> yn1v, agreed.
23:37:08 <echevemaster> correct.. I will to arrive to prague, almost dead
23:37:09 <echevemaster> hahaha
23:37:14 <dougsland> no way
23:37:23 <echevemaster> that is the plan
23:37:24 <itamar_> from bogota costs arround $1000 usd
23:37:42 <echevemaster> itamar_: I know, but is not a choice...
23:37:57 <echevemaster> if was possible, I was put on the ticket.
23:38:17 <dougsland> if it's approved already the value. What's the question now ?
23:38:31 <echevemaster> the accomodation docent
23:38:36 <echevemaster> dougsland:
23:38:42 <dougsland> <yn1v> that was passed to FAmSCo to approve
23:38:42 <dougsland> <yn1v> it was agreed in famsco to allocate the amount proposed
23:38:45 <echevemaster> that is the quuestion..
23:38:51 <dougsland> ah ok.
23:38:54 <itamar_> dougsland, its was approved $2 the ticket costs $1950
23:39:30 <itamar_> dougsland, echevemaster needs a place to stay and buying dollars from venezuela is almost impossible unless you sell some parts of your body.
23:40:10 <yn1v> I woul like to ask if everybody accept that take the hotel in the university dorms that is about $25 a day ... probably will end up with travel $2100 instead os $2000
23:40:17 <yn1v> anybody is against that?
23:40:24 <dougsland> that make sense.
23:41:08 <itamar_> yn1v ++, sounds good,
23:41:30 <yn1v> Can we vote on that?
23:41:55 <williamjmorenor> think yes
23:41:55 <dougsland> +1
23:42:00 <yn1v> +1
23:42:03 <williamjmorenor> +1
23:42:05 <firemanxbr> +1
23:42:09 <itamar_> +1
23:42:10 <Cristhian> +1
23:42:22 <echevemaster> thanks guys :)
23:42:38 <mayorga> +1
23:42:57 <yn1v> #agreed to cover hotel cost for echevemaster in flock at the university dorms
23:43:15 <yn1v> we are past the time of meeting
23:43:25 <yn1v> there is any urgent matter?
23:43:44 <williamjmorenor> ticket for nicaragua anr no urgent
23:43:54 <williamjmorenor> but also a really small issues
23:44:01 <echevemaster> if you have something to do, please go ahead and I follow with this..
23:44:04 <echevemaster> yn1v:
23:44:17 <williamjmorenor> US 90 US 10 and U$ 20
23:45:00 <yn1v> william can you give a small summary?
23:45:05 <williamjmorenor> yes
23:45:24 <williamjmorenor> we are goint to have 3 small events at July
23:45:39 <williamjmorenor> Start a Fedora School,
23:45:54 <williamjmorenor> the aniversary of a university
23:46:02 <williamjmorenor> and compdes
23:46:23 <williamjmorenor> we need some DVD because after flisol we dont hace any
23:46:31 <williamjmorenor> algo print son flyers
23:46:52 <williamjmorenor> and 2 banner could de good to promote Fedora in events
23:47:05 <yn1v> compdes is a regional event with people from all central america
23:47:47 <williamjmorenor> there is US$ 120 the total for these 3 events
23:48:20 <yn1v> anyone have questions?
23:48:25 <williamjmorenor> ????
23:50:44 <williamjmorenor> I see dead people
23:50:52 <williamjmorenor> :-/
23:50:59 <dougsland> williamjmorenor, can we vote this next week ?
23:51:32 <dougsland> indeed, silence in the channel.
23:52:25 <dougsland> yn1v, williamjmorenor leaving...
23:52:42 <yn1v> okey ... I will close the meeting because of the silence
23:52:55 <dougsland> +1
23:52:55 <williamjmorenor> well think this will need to wait next meeting
23:53:17 <williamjmorenor> but next meeting olso will be latinoware tickets
23:53:29 <firemanxbr> +1
23:53:40 <williamjmorenor> so please vote for small isues fistr
23:53:46 <ramilton> +1
23:53:54 <williamjmorenor> *first
23:54:22 <dougsland> make sense
23:54:24 <dougsland> cya guys
23:54:31 <yn1v> itamar_, ??
23:54:44 <itamar_> +1
23:55:00 <yn1v> +1
23:55:19 <yn1v> I think is enough votes
23:55:33 <williamjmorenor> so?
23:55:39 <williamjmorenor> yn1v?
23:56:05 <yn1v> #agreed to sponsor tickets 234 235 and 237
23:56:18 <williamjmorenor> thanks guys :)
23:56:27 <yn1v> anything else on this meeting?
23:57:05 <yn1v> closing in 10 secs
23:57:06 <williamjmorenor> I have to go home, my litle baby is waiting for me
23:57:07 <TonetJallo> nothing
23:57:14 <yn1v> 8 ...
23:57:15 <williamjmorenor> think yn1v too
23:57:21 <yn1v> 6 ...
23:57:27 <yn1v> 4 ...
23:57:33 <yn1v> 2 ...
23:57:45 <yn1v> #endmeeting