<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:05:33
!startmeeting magazine !meetingname magazine !topic roll call !chair zinebot glb rlengland
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:05:33
Meeting started at 2024-04-25 15:05:33 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:05:33
The Meeting name is 'magazine !meetingname magazine !topic roll call !chair zinebot glb rlengland'
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:05:44
Ah, much better.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:05:48
!hello glb
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:05:49
Gregory Bartholomew (glb)
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:06:06
!hello rlengland
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:06:07
Richard England (rlengland) - he / him / his
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:06:37
It looks like the newcomers are a no show for this one. 😕
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:07:00
Do you want to try to continue with the rest of the meeting just for kicks?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:07:28
If you have time. LIke I said, good for a shake down
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:07:44
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:07:44
!topic agenda !link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ !info -- 1/ last week's stats -- !info -- 2/ articles in progress -- !info -- 3/ articles to review -- !info -- 4/ articles to edit -- !info -- 5/ publishing schedule -- !info -- 6/ editor of the week -- !info -- 7/ open floor --
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:08:12
Hmm, that check mark is new. I wonder what it means?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:08:26
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<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:08:26
!topic 1/ last week's stats
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:08:54
Oh yeah, I was supposed to retrieve that info beforehand. 😛
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:09:30
51K visitors 79k views
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:10:45
!info Week of Apr 15: 40.1K pageviews -- up from the previous week.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:11:28
Why is the number you are seeing different from the one I'm seeing?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:12:10
Copied mine from https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats#!/stats/day/fedoramagazine.org?startDate=2024-04-10
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:12:32
?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:12:51
`startDate=2024-04-10`?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:12:57
fumble fingered that
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:13:22
I got the values by hovering over the April 15th bar in that bar graph.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:13:31
ah that was for the month, sorry
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:13:55
OK. Now that that's cleared up... 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:14:01
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<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:11
!topic 2/ articles in progress
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:11
#info Looking at the 'in-progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:11
#link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:11
#info 185: Home, sweet systemd-homed (author: richiedaze) (fpca: unsigned) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:11
#info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/185
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:12
#info 220: RSS Feed Usage in Fedora and Beyond (author: gbcox) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:12
#info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/220
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:12
#info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: romangherta) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:12
#info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:12
#info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35214&preview=true
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:12
#info 274: Unlocking the Power of Fedora CoreOS (author: aishat) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:12
#info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/274
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:12
#info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40065&preview=true
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:15:08
I don't think we are requiring people to sign the FPCA anymore. But I'm not completely sure about that.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:16:04
You know, I probably should have left a link to this chatroom in the Fedora Magazine chatroom before we started the meeing.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:16:08
I'll do that now...
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:17:05
OK, done, now where were we?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:17:13
🔹 next card
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:17:14
#info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/185
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:17:14
#info 185: Home, sweet systemd-homed (author: richiedaze) (fpca: unsigned) (status: in-progress)
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:17:41
🔹 card 185 comments
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:17:48
comments: ― rlengland -- Mon Apr 17 20:06:10 2023 (GMT): Waiting for Kacper Skrzyński <atomic0blimp> To sign in to pagure so it can be assigned ― rlengland -- Mon Feb 26 07:25:03 2024 (GMT): @richiedaze Please let the editors, know with a comment on this card, when you have your article ready for review and publication in the [Fedora Magazine WordPress instance](https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/). ― rlengland -- Sat Apr 20 21:35:25 2024 (GMT): @richiedaze Is there a status update on this article? Let us know if you have questions or need assistance with anything. ―
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:18:24
Hmm, it doesn't look like you are getting replies to your pings on this one.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:18:58
And it changed authors. It's only been 5 days, though
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:19:08
Is that really right, you haven't had a reply since April 17 **2023**!
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:19:34
Apr 20 2024
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:19:51
Oh, I get it, someone else has just revived the topic.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:20:13
OK, so we'll give the new author a chance to pick up the topic.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:20:36
Five days is probably recent enough that we don't need to ping them again at this time.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:20:53
he's had it for 2 months but no response from 5 days ago
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:21:32
Oh. Maybe we should moved it to stalled then?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:22:38
I'd give him another week then I'll contact him and let him know we moved it to stalled
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:22:49
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<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:49
#info 220: RSS Feed Usage in Fedora and Beyond (author: gbcox) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:49
#info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/220
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:23:07
🔹 card 220 comments
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:23:08
comments: ― rlengland -- Wed Mar 20 23:46:25 2024 (GMT): @gbcox Any progress on your article? ― gbcox -- Thu Mar 21 23:02:43 2024 (GMT): Hey Richard, Sorry for the radio silence on the writing front. I've actually been dealing with some medical issues lately that have been making it tough to focus and tap into my creative flow. I did a first draft but not at all happy with it. I'm hoping to be back in the swing of things soon, unfortunately, it's taking much much longer than I originally thought. On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 4:46=E2=80=AFPM Richard England <pagure@pagure.io> = wrote: > > rlengland added a new comment to an issue you are following: > `` > @gbcox Any progress on your article? > `` > > To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email > https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/220 > ― rlengland -- Fri Mar 22 00:06:51 2024 (GMT): @gbcox you and your health come first. I just pinged you on this in case there was something we could help with. We'll await your input. Take care. ―
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:23:33
Hmm, looks like this one is due for another ping?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:23:43
agree
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:24:48
🔹 ping 220 @gbcox any status updates for this article? There's no hurry. We just want to make sure you haven't forgotten about it. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:24:58
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<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:24:58
#info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: romangherta) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:24:58
#info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:24:58
#info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35214&preview=true
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:25:21
🔹 card 72 comments
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:25:22
comments: ― rlengland -- Tue Mar 5 18:09:41 2024 (GMT): @romangherta I've made it official and assigned this article to you, since I see there has been significant work done on it in WordPress. When you have it completed/polished to your liking, let the editors know. Do that by placing a link to the WP preview site for the article in a comment on this ticket. Thank you for contributing. ― romangherta -- Wed Mar 6 09:04:44 2024 (GMT): Hi @rlengland I am still probably a few weeks away from finishing but I will try to update periodically. I have seen @thunderbirdtr 's github account. He is really busy atm. A nice week ahead. ― romangherta -- Mon Apr 1 19:29:47 2024 (GMT): Sorry for the delay, I want to finish reading the openfoam11 usermanual at least once... I have 5 more chapters remaining. It is an interesting field that covers just too many subjects. It is hard to delimit what a CFD engineer should know and what a systems admin should know.... I\ll get back with an update in a week. Right now I feel like I will still be working on this in April. ―
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:26:00
Well, it's been more than a week. Ping?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:26:16
I'd say so
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:26:39
🔹 ping 72 @romangherta how is this article coming along?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:26:43
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<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:26:43
#info 274: Unlocking the Power of Fedora CoreOS (author: aishat) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:26:43
#info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/274
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:26:44
#info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40065&preview=true
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:26:55
🔹 card 274 comments
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:26:56
comments: ― joseph -- Tue Apr 16 01:31:19 2024 (GMT): If this article needs too much of a rework then maybe the best thing is to put this topic on the backburner to not be spinning our wheels. Aisha is one of the Outreachy applicants for the Marketing Team project, and writing an article was one of the ways applicants could contribute during the application phase. The goal was to support CoreOS with an article to promote it more without you guys having to put in too much work. If you would basically be rewriting it then it would be better to not publish this article and then save you the time or the opportunity to cover the idea yourselves. Also this is definitely not to fault Aisha. Writing for a technical topic is hard and something I have to balance carefully even with my time in the project. To at least have done the work and gotten more familiar with the technology is a step in the right direction to speaking about this subject with more familiarity. What do we think about tabling this topic? ― aishat -- Tue Apr 16 21:00:39 2024 (GMT): Hello @siosm and @rlengland . I have changed the layout of the article to remove the duplications. Please check it. Thank you so much ― aishat -- Wed Apr 17 23:48:41 2024 (GMT): > If this article needs too much of a rework then maybe the best thing is to put this topic on the backburner to not be spinning our wheels. Aisha is one of the Outreachy applicants for the Marketing Team project, and writing an article was one of the ways applicants could contribute during the application phase. The goal was to support CoreOS with an article to promote it more without you guys having to put in too much work. If you would basically be rewriting it then it would be better to not publish this article and then save you the time or the opportunity to cover the idea yourselves. > > Also this is definitely not to fault Aisha. Writing for a technical topic is hard and something I have to balance carefully even with my time in the project. To at least have done the work and gotten more familiar with the technology is a step in the right direction to speaking about this subject with more familiarity. > > What do we think about tabling this topic? Thank you for your guidance so far. I have patiently edited the article after @siosm 's last feedback. I believe the article is now much better ―
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:28:04
Hmm, this one is a difficult call. I think we should wait for siosm's approval.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:28:51
We might ping them both. I can do that outside the meeting
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:29:02
🔹 next card
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:29:02
card not found or end of column
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:29:09
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<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:29:09
#link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:29:09
!info Are there any upcoming test days?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:29:19
🔹 show testdays
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:29:20
#info no test days found between 2024-04-21 and 2024-05-12
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:29:30
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:29:35
#link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-40/f-40-magazine-tasks.html
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:29:35
!info Check the release schedule.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:29:59
We just went though that, so there shouldn't be much to worry about there for a while. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:30:03
🔹 show schedule
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:30:04
2024-09-03: Prepare Beta release announcement 2024-09-10: Publish Beta release announcement 2024-10-08: Prepare Final release announcement 2024-10-15: Publish Final release announcement 2024-09-10: Prepare "What's new in F41 Workstation?" 2024-10-15: Publish "What's new in F41 Workstation?" 2024-10-08: Prepare "Rebasing Silverblue" 2024-10-16: Publish "Rebasing Silverblue" 2024-10-15: Update WordPress sidebar
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:30:14
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:30:18
!topic 3/ articles to review !info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to-edit' (finished) column or to the 'in-progress' (needs more work) column and provide feedback. !link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles no cards found in the 'review' column
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:31:25
Well, we are getting plenty of hits from the new release articles anyway. So I guess it is OK that we don't have any new content ready for publication in the upcoming week. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:31:56
That should make the remainder of this meeting easy anyway. 🙂
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:32:08
We have several in the "Ideas" column that are fairly recent.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:32:19
so there may be some in the pipeline
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:33:08
Oh. Those should be advanced to the in-progress column if there is any content visible in WordPress (or if the author indicates that they are working on it "offline").
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:33:38
I've been checking and I didn't see any new content early yesterday
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:34:37
Was the TPM2 article covered already?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:35:21
I don't see it in the in-progress column. It looks like something might have been missed.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:36:50
The last comment on the said there was a blocking issue and he had filed a issue on GitHub
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:36:55
Ah, I see.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:37:22
Maybe we should still move that to in-progress to make sure we follow up about it from time to time?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:37:23
Perhaps we should move that sicne there has been work begun on it.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:37:34
great minds
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:37:47
🔹 move 278 in-progress
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:37:47
card 278 moved to 'in-progress'
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:38:31
What's this OpenFOAM article?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:39:15
It's a fluid dynamic app
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:39:21
Oh, we already covered that one.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:40:12
I worked in that area a bit and I was personally interested in what he comes up with.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:40:28
OK, I don't see anything else in WordPress' recent history. I just wanted to be sure since we (I) haven't been keeping a close eye on it. But it looks like someone has been doing good work at keeping track of things. 🙂
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:40:56
for certain definitions of good
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:41:17
moving on ...
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:41:21
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:41:26
!topic 4/ articles to edit !info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator. !link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles no cards found in the 'to-edit' column
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:42:03
As was stated earlier, it looks like things are going to be quiet for a while, but that is OK. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:42:08
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:42:13
!topic 5/ publishing schedule !info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, decide the publishing schedule for the upcomming week. !info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in-progress' or even the 'ideas' columns come up with additional content. !link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles no cards found in the 'to-edit' column
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:42:28
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:42:29
!topic 6/ editor of the week
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:42:56
Any volunteers?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:42:59
I would appreciate it if you would take that on.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:43:37
We can publicize it better
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:43:47
Well, I can't really complain since you've been doing pretty much *everything* else for quite a while now. 🙂
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:43:56
and give the new folks a better first impression
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:44:00
🔹 eotw glb
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:44:00
#info glb will be editor of the week starting 2024-04-28
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:44:21
Uh oh, there is another command that needs to be fixed in zinebot.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:44:30
!info glb will be editor of the week starting 2024-04-28
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:44:42
I'll still try to keep my eye on the day to day items
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:44:58
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:44:58
!topic 7/ open floor
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:45:06
Anything else?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:45:12
Nothing here
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:45:21
That works for me. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:45:35
!endmeeting