22:00:16 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
22:00:16 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 19 22:00:16 2015 UTC.  The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
22:00:16 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
22:00:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board'
22:00:19 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
22:00:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine'
22:00:21 <stickster> #topic Roll call
22:00:32 <stickster> .hello pfrields
22:00:33 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
22:02:23 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
22:02:24 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
22:02:25 <stickster> jflory7: decause: ryanlerch: cydrobolt: FranciscoD: mailga: roshi: ping
22:02:29 <stickster> oops, sorry jflory7  :-D
22:02:34 <cydrobolt> .hello cydrobolt
22:02:35 <zodbot> cydrobolt: cydrobolt 'Chaoyi Zha' <summermontreal@gmail.com>
22:02:44 <cydrobolt> I'll have to leave somewhat soon
22:03:28 <stickster> Ryan said he might be in a little late because of a morning conflict, but he's going to try to make it
22:03:36 <stickster> #chair jflory7 cydrobolt
22:03:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: cydrobolt jflory7 stickster
22:03:43 <jflory7> Okay, thanks for the update.
22:03:44 <stickster> #topic Last week review
22:03:49 <jflory7> I'm just settling in
22:04:06 <stickster> np -- I have a hard stop at :00 so it's gonna cook right along tonight ;-)
22:04:45 <stickster> First, it was rather a slow week for a number of reasons, one of which was lack of time -- but we got two good articles out
22:04:45 <jflory7> Sounds good to me, jump right in!
22:05:24 <stickster> Here's the good news
22:05:41 <stickster> #info We broke the monthly record for views this month, with ~10 days left to go in the month still
22:05:52 <jflory7> Woot!
22:05:59 <stickster> > 208K views so far, vs. 199K+ in May 2015
22:06:16 <stickster> Now we need to keep building on that, which means setting up a good schedule for next week
22:06:26 <jflory7> Wow... awesome! And we still have some more time to get that record up even higher.
22:07:02 <jflory7> I take it that's the transition to pitches? :)
22:07:29 <stickster> jflory7: Actually, I want to hit schedule for next week first
22:07:30 <stickster> #topic Schedule for next week
22:07:40 <stickster> #info Tuesday: Wayland testing
22:08:31 <stickster> #info Wednesday: systemd next-part
22:08:54 <stickster> I believe that's on unit dependencies and ordering. I don't expect Bryan S to help here, so it will need someone to pick it up
22:09:27 <stickster> cydrobolt: We have a systemd article you've been working on -- which is about template unit files
22:09:56 <stickster> But I think you need more time. So I will do my best to get the systemd unit deps draft done in time
22:10:18 <stickster> #action stickster draft systemd unit deps/ordering article for next Mon review/Wed publishing
22:10:23 <jflory7> stickster++
22:10:30 <stickster> cydrobolt: Can you have your draft ready by next Thursday's meeting please?
22:10:48 * jflory7 wonders if that Cinnamon article could also go out next week
22:10:57 <stickster> jflory7: Ah yes, there's Cinnamon
22:11:07 <stickster> #info Thursday (or TBD): Cinnamon
22:11:11 <decause> .hello decause
22:11:13 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com>
22:11:18 <stickster> #chair decause
22:11:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: cydrobolt decause jflory7 stickster
22:12:12 <stickster> cydrobolt: To be clear -- next Thu would be the *template* unit files article
22:13:09 <stickster> OK, and we still would love to have any tidbit pieces of news too
22:13:16 <stickster> Let's move on to pitches
22:13:43 <stickster> #topic Pitch votes
22:13:46 <stickster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&orderby=date&order=asc
22:13:58 <stickster> *sigh need to fix links for https
22:14:46 <stickster> #info Varnish -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10743&preview=true
22:14:49 * jflory7 is loading
22:15:14 <stickster> This is puiterwijk's pitch -- I think we already approved it this one, didn't we?
22:15:29 <jflory7> I think we did.
22:15:48 <jflory7> Probably could go ahead and swap over to Drafts.
22:16:03 * stickster does it
22:16:34 <stickster> #info KDE -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10850&preview=true
22:16:47 <stickster> #undo
22:16:47 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by stickster at 22:16:34 : KDE -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10850&preview=true
22:16:53 <stickster> #info KDE Connect -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10850&preview=true
22:17:09 <jflory7> Looks like another user-oriented article for KDE users
22:17:13 <stickster> +1 from me -- it's something users will find useful
22:17:16 <jflory7> +1 from me
22:17:44 <stickster> .fas khanger
22:17:44 <zodbot> stickster: sudhirkhanger 'Sudhir Khanger' <sudhir@sudhirkhanger.com> - donniezazen 'Sudhir Khanger' <sudhirkhangerdev@gmail.com>
22:18:00 * stickster not sure why two accounts, but whatever
22:18:46 <stickster> jflory7: Can you get in contact with Sudhir, ask him if he wants to write this article, and then ask him to commit to a due date?
22:18:52 * jflory7 nods
22:18:54 <jflory7> Can do.
22:18:56 <stickster> \o/
22:19:20 <jflory7> #action jflory7 follow up with Sudhir about the KDE Connect article and try to commit to a due date
22:19:29 <stickster> beauty, thanks :-)
22:19:45 <jflory7> Yep!
22:20:11 * linuxmodder late
22:20:22 * jflory7 keeps getting logged out of the Magazine every couple minutes...
22:20:23 <stickster> #info cgroups -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10865&preview=true
22:20:27 <jflory7> What other pitches were left?
22:20:30 <jflory7> Ahh
22:20:51 <stickster> +1 from me -- this *sorta* goes into systemd series, buuuuuuut not entirely
22:20:52 <jflory7> Is this an extension to the systemd series?
22:20:59 <jflory7> Ahh, I see.
22:21:02 <stickster> I think it's something we could do outside the series
22:21:14 <stickster> systemd makes use of cgroups heavily but it's not a requirement that you manage them only with systemd
22:21:15 <jflory7> +1 from me, it would fit right along with the systemd streak going on right now.
22:21:40 <jflory7> Also, hi linuxmodder!
22:21:44 <stickster> o/
22:21:57 <stickster> we're just plugging right along here
22:22:07 <linuxmodder> stickster,  possible to have a article that  shows the  slight connection that  pertains mostly to the selinux  side ?
22:22:19 <stickster> linuxmodder: explain pls?
22:23:01 <stickster> jds2001 is the person who suggested this article, btw, and I think he might draft it if asked
22:23:07 <linuxmodder> too often especially on  G+ / ask I see issues understanding the  cgroups and  selinux context  bit  ---- possible to have a article about the  connection to that
22:23:22 <stickster> linuxmodder: I'll add that to the pitch
22:23:27 <linuxmodder> I am willing to co-author / proof read
22:23:54 <linuxmodder> jds2001,  feel free to hit me up as needed ( Did a recent review of  security guide )
22:24:38 <stickster> #agreed cgroups should go forth
22:24:48 <stickster> #action stickster contact jds2001 about writing the article
22:25:29 * jflory7 nods
22:25:46 <stickster> #info Cockpit overview -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10867&preview=true
22:26:00 <stickster> +100 -- MAN do I want to see this article
22:26:18 <linuxmodder> stickster,  you are aware the  info link is  404 right?
22:26:29 <jflory7> I think there's definitely high interest for that topic too.
22:26:31 <stickster> linuxmodder: Make sure you're logged in.
22:26:41 <linuxmodder> ah doh
22:26:50 <linuxmodder> +1 for cockpit  from me
22:26:55 <linuxmodder> mattdm,  ^^
22:27:02 <stickster> sgallagh: I know you have a lot on your plate. Are you interested in writing this article on Cockpit overview for Fedora Magazine? We can guarantee you EVERLASTING FAME AND GLORY
22:27:22 <stickster> sgallagh: Or feel free to suggest a victi^Wvolunteer
22:27:32 <linuxmodder> if not  reach out to mattdm  he did a super badass demo at  LISA with me
22:28:16 <stickster> linuxmodder: Why don't you take a swing at this one?
22:28:42 <linuxmodder> I'd have to  school myself on Cockpit in order to head it up solo
22:28:55 <stickster> linuxmodder: Ask mattdm + sgallagh for a set of things they'd like to see covered in an overview, then you could use that to train yourself and do screenshots
22:28:55 <linuxmodder> the fine parts of it all that is
22:29:37 <linuxmodder> sure I'll email matt tonight
22:29:38 <stickster> It's not meant to go into gory detail on everything -- just hit the high points of what it lets you do -- I'm sure sgallagh or one of his cohort would be happy to help assemble highlights
22:30:14 <stickster> #agreed cockpit ftw
22:30:27 <linuxmodder> he has cohorts ?   Thought he was superman :)
22:30:35 <stickster> #action linuxmodder Pull together highlights on Cockpit from sgallagh &co, and draft the Cockpit article
22:30:44 <linuxmodder> ack
22:30:48 <stickster> he is but there's a Justice League, you know
22:30:56 <linuxmodder> lol
22:31:11 <stickster> #info nuntius -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10869&preview=true
22:31:29 <stickster> This is a neat idea, +1 from me, seems short and sweet
22:32:04 <stickster> linuxmodder: what's your FAS account name?
22:32:09 <linuxmodder> corey84
22:32:16 <linuxmodder> .fasinfo corey84
22:32:17 <zodbot> linuxmodder: User: corey84, Name: Corey Sheldon, email: sheldon.corey@gmail.com, Creation: 2014-11-28, IRC Nick: linux-modder, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, GPG key ID: E958C5D6718BF597, Status: active
22:32:20 <zodbot> linuxmodder: Approved Groups: fi-apprentice ambassadors cla_fpca cla_done
22:32:37 <linuxmodder> stickster, ^
22:33:12 <jflory7> Hah - I think this one is awesome! I didn't even this existed, I think high draw for that
22:33:16 <jflory7> +1 from me for nuntius
22:33:22 <jflory7> * didn't even know this
22:33:48 <stickster> linuxmodder: Follow these easy steps: https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/
22:34:02 <stickster> #agreed nuntius is nummy
22:34:09 <stickster> I'm assigning this to Ryan
22:34:15 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Feel free to poke me too if you want another pair of eyes when writing your article. I'm happy to help you get started. :)
22:34:18 <stickster> #action ryanlerch draft the nuntius article
22:34:19 <linuxmodder> bookmarked, reread post mtg
22:34:23 <stickster> jflory7++
22:35:01 <stickster> linuxmodder: Once you have signed in via F-Mag let me know and i'll assign the article to you
22:35:52 <stickster> #info Picard -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10885&preview=true
22:35:59 <stickster> jflory7: Was this approved before?
22:36:05 <jflory7> Nope, not yet.
22:36:16 <jflory7> Hadn't circulated it on the ML
22:36:33 <stickster> insta-approve
22:36:37 <jflory7> \o/
22:36:59 <jflory7> I was thinking of having it ready by same time for next Friday or the following following week from now.
22:37:01 <stickster> MusicBrainz++, I contribute to that all the time
22:37:10 <jflory7> MusicBrainz++
22:37:14 <stickster> jflory7: Would be nice to encourage people to contribute album data via this article too
22:37:22 <jflory7> That's what I was hoping to do :)
22:37:43 <stickster> jflory7: That's awesome, How about we set a draft due date of Nov-27?
22:37:53 <stickster> Wait, that's Turkey++ Day
22:37:58 <jflory7> Whoops!
22:38:10 * jflory7 forgot for a minute
22:38:21 <jflory7> In that case, let's probably just shoot for the week following the next
22:38:23 <stickster> How about Dec-02 (Wed following week)?
22:38:37 <stickster> that way we can check status at that meeting (we will certainly not meet this time next week!)
22:39:06 <jflory7> Could probably have it ready for publication for Nov 30 if we want, otherwise Dec. 2nd is definitely fine by me.
22:39:16 <jflory7> Whichever is easiest :)
22:39:19 <linuxmodder> people still spend family time on turkey day ? and not  early black friday sales ? :)
22:39:20 <stickster> jflory7: I'd be happy with earlier, honestly
22:39:32 <stickster> I worry about running short of content with people out for Thanksgiving in the USSA
22:39:35 <stickster> er, USA
22:39:37 <stickster> That was not a political joke
22:39:50 <linuxmodder> stickster, I'm logged in (had  timed out and not realized it)
22:39:59 <jflory7> Let's aim for Nov 30 publication date, ready for review at some point over that weekend. Probably was going to draft it this weekend anyways.
22:40:03 <jflory7> Heheh.
22:40:08 <stickster> jflory7: Boom!
22:40:25 <stickster> #agreed Picard says make it so
22:40:28 <jflory7> #action jflory7 draft Picard article for intended publication date of November 30
22:40:30 <decause> lolz
22:40:37 <decause> picard++
22:40:58 <stickster> Guys, talk amongst yourself for a second
22:41:04 <stickster> I need to see what my dog's whining abuot upstairs
22:41:26 <jflory7> So I think that wraps up all the pitches.
22:42:24 <stickster> back
22:42:31 <jflory7> I actually am not sure what other things we have to cover as far as posts go
22:42:34 <stickster> #topic Drafts
22:42:44 <jflory7> Just the systemd stuff on deck.
22:42:53 <stickster> Really, there's not much to cover here -- we need to get the above stories ready (see schedule topic earlier)
22:43:00 * jflory7 nods
22:43:11 <stickster> I'm a bit concerned about lining up stuff for Thanksgiving week but without more authors I don't know what we can do there, really
22:43:29 <jflory7> I want to have that interview ready ASAP, with the lasers... just depends on the timeliness of my interview subject. :)
22:43:40 <jflory7> I'm going to try to work towards first week of December
22:43:48 <jflory7> But I can't make a solid promise on that one
22:44:29 <decause> stickster: can we "recycle" any content? Do a "greatest hits" or something that doesn't require us to do any greenfield?
22:44:35 <decause> "re-runs"
22:44:42 <jflory7> I'm sure I'll also come up with another idea or two the next week. If I have something that comes to me, I'll just try to draft it up and have it ready for that December week
22:44:48 <stickster> decause: That's a very good idea, just need to find something useful
22:44:59 <jflory7> decause++
22:45:07 <decause> stickster: we /are/ going to have a bunch of election interviews
22:45:11 <decause> stickster: actually
22:45:16 <decause> one of the new commops members
22:45:17 <stickster> Those will be on commblog, though, correct?
22:45:20 <decause> cprofitt
22:45:34 <decause> stickster: yeah, those will be, was just thinking out loud
22:45:38 <decause> but I got another idea
22:45:46 <decause> it's not actually my idea, it was cprofitt
22:45:47 <decause> but
22:46:09 <decause> He's doing a "Community Appreciation" series of posts on his personal blog right now
22:46:17 <decause> and since it is Thanksgiving
22:46:37 <decause> we could be "thankful" and do some profiles of people in the community, or projects we are thankful for
22:46:49 <decause> we could ask people to send us thank yous, and then we publish them?
22:47:20 <decause> ?
22:47:47 <stickster> decause: All those things do not solve the "not enough people" problem though.
22:48:14 <stickster> decause: But I like the idea of an article that thanks our community -- maybe point to a wiki page where people can put in "Thank you" thoughts
22:48:15 <decause> stickster: if we have a template, and we allow people to respond via email, then we can just copy/paste the best 10 or so into an article?
22:48:39 <stickster> decause: That would also make it easy -- much better
22:48:55 <decause> we could use a hastag even ;)
22:48:58 <decause> embed the tweets
22:48:58 <stickster> decause: Can I put you in charge of that?
22:49:02 <decause> talk to bkp about it
22:49:07 <linuxmodder> +1 for thank you article / wiki redirect
22:49:22 <decause> stickster: yeah
22:49:41 <decause> #action decause reach out to bkp about "thankful" series during t-giving week
22:49:43 * jflory7 could also lend a hand with this especially, will have a lot more time while classes are winding down
22:50:54 <jflory7> Anyways, sounds like an agreement to me.
22:51:04 <stickster> decause: So if we curate a set of tweets from a hashtag... that sounds awesome
22:51:17 <decause> wouldn't say embed the whole stream, jsut announce a hastag, and then cherrypick some choice ones
22:51:33 <decause> nod nod nod
22:51:37 <decause> I will talk to bkp about it
22:51:40 <stickster> decause: Right -- exactly. I dread the "auto-pull" thing because... well, you never know.
22:52:03 <decause> stickster: on no way, the troll potential is too high
22:52:06 <decause> :P
22:52:21 <stickster> "I used to believe in the goodness of man
22:52:21 <stickster> But not anymore since I became one of them
22:52:24 <stickster> "
22:52:31 <decause> nod nod nod
22:53:05 <stickster> #action decause to talk to bkp about a "thankful" tweet based post for next week
22:53:29 <stickster> decause: I would target this for Thursday specifically -- can you write a brief 2-3 sentence intro for it?  We now can schedule posts properly thanks to Patrick
22:53:38 <jflory7> puiterwijk++
22:53:44 <stickster> Oh, don't wake the robot!!!
22:53:58 * puiterwijk wonders what I did to earn cookies this time
22:53:59 <decause> stickster: nod nod, assign action plz
22:54:08 <jflory7> Hahah!
22:54:09 <puiterwijk> But, thanks :)
22:54:37 <stickster> #action decause start the article now, draft 2-3 sentence intro into which he can insert tweets from bkp and set to schedule/auto-publish
22:54:49 <stickster> #action decause ping stickster tomorrow morning to tidy up any further details
22:55:02 <jflory7> Awesome awesome
22:55:04 <decause> stickster: thanks
22:55:05 <stickster> #topic Open floor
22:55:15 <stickster> OK, < 5 min -- anything else?
22:55:15 <jflory7> I have only one thing to add
22:55:17 <stickster> go!
22:55:17 <decause> #action jflory help keep this on the decause/commops radar
22:55:25 <decause> :)
22:55:41 <stickster> jflory7: Here's my ex-FPL official cattle prod, please bring it back in working order
22:56:00 <jflory7> Sadly, I may not be able to make the meetings from January - May, with the exception of a handful.
22:56:09 <stickster> O noez
22:56:13 <jflory7> stickster: Hahah - I will take it with responsibility!
22:56:21 <jflory7> Yeah. :(
22:56:23 <stickster> jflory7: If we need to reschedule to get you, we just may do that
22:56:31 <linuxmodder> if they stay at / close to this time I can  take over jflory7  in that interim
22:56:44 <stickster> Is it a case where a morning may work for you whereas evening doesn't?
22:57:33 <jflory7> Okay, as far as my hours will go, I'll generally be fairly flexible. Monday mornings are looking good for me -- let me take a second look at my schedule
22:57:59 <decause> stickster: quick question: for the thankful series, are we extending it to upstream projects too? I know we're Fedora magazine, but the more love/thanks we can show to our Friends, the wider this will spread, IMHO
22:58:13 <jflory7> Actually, Tuesday or Thursday mornings after 9am US EST would work well for me
22:58:23 <stickster> jflory7: With the no-DST right now, if we do a morning 9:00am EST (just an example) we can easily get ryanlerch here too
22:58:37 <jflory7> mornings++
22:58:41 <decause> ryanlerch being here would be a big bonus, yeah
22:58:54 <stickster> jflory7: Let's discuss on list and see if we can set up a new time. I'll figure out where I can carve out morning tiem.
22:59:00 <decause> Tuesdays are my busy meeting days in the morning
22:59:04 <decause> but I can adjust likely
22:59:10 <stickster> #action jflory7 start thread on marketing@ to talk about adjusting meeting time
22:59:12 <decause> whenisgood.net poll incoming :)
22:59:13 <stickster> jflory7: ^ cool?
22:59:16 <jflory7> stickster: Yeah, sounds good. I'm not 100% on my times yet, but I will be tomorrow. Mailing list works for me.
22:59:19 <stickster> boom
22:59:20 <jflory7> +1
22:59:24 <decause> +1
22:59:34 <jflory7> I'll send that out tomorrow once I am definite about the way things are looking
22:59:36 <stickster> That's a wrap folks! THANK YOU everyone for coming!
22:59:39 <stickster> *nod
22:59:40 <jflory7> stickster++
22:59:42 <decause> stickster++
22:59:45 <decause> thanks all
22:59:45 <stickster> #endmeeting