22:00:16 #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 22:00:16 Meeting started Thu Nov 19 22:00:16 2015 UTC. The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:00:16 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:00:16 The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 22:00:19 #meetingname magazine 22:00:19 The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 22:00:21 #topic Roll call 22:00:32 .hello pfrields 22:00:33 stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' 22:02:23 .hello jflory7 22:02:24 jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' 22:02:25 jflory7: decause: ryanlerch: cydrobolt: FranciscoD: mailga: roshi: ping 22:02:29 oops, sorry jflory7 :-D 22:02:34 .hello cydrobolt 22:02:35 cydrobolt: cydrobolt 'Chaoyi Zha' 22:02:44 I'll have to leave somewhat soon 22:03:28 Ryan said he might be in a little late because of a morning conflict, but he's going to try to make it 22:03:36 #chair jflory7 cydrobolt 22:03:36 Current chairs: cydrobolt jflory7 stickster 22:03:43 Okay, thanks for the update. 22:03:44 #topic Last week review 22:03:49 I'm just settling in 22:04:06 np -- I have a hard stop at :00 so it's gonna cook right along tonight ;-) 22:04:45 First, it was rather a slow week for a number of reasons, one of which was lack of time -- but we got two good articles out 22:04:45 Sounds good to me, jump right in! 22:05:24 Here's the good news 22:05:41 #info We broke the monthly record for views this month, with ~10 days left to go in the month still 22:05:52 Woot! 22:05:59 > 208K views so far, vs. 199K+ in May 2015 22:06:16 Now we need to keep building on that, which means setting up a good schedule for next week 22:06:26 Wow... awesome! And we still have some more time to get that record up even higher. 22:07:02 I take it that's the transition to pitches? :) 22:07:29 jflory7: Actually, I want to hit schedule for next week first 22:07:30 #topic Schedule for next week 22:07:40 #info Tuesday: Wayland testing 22:08:31 #info Wednesday: systemd next-part 22:08:54 I believe that's on unit dependencies and ordering. I don't expect Bryan S to help here, so it will need someone to pick it up 22:09:27 cydrobolt: We have a systemd article you've been working on -- which is about template unit files 22:09:56 But I think you need more time. So I will do my best to get the systemd unit deps draft done in time 22:10:18 #action stickster draft systemd unit deps/ordering article for next Mon review/Wed publishing 22:10:23 stickster++ 22:10:30 cydrobolt: Can you have your draft ready by next Thursday's meeting please? 22:10:48 * jflory7 wonders if that Cinnamon article could also go out next week 22:10:57 jflory7: Ah yes, there's Cinnamon 22:11:07 #info Thursday (or TBD): Cinnamon 22:11:11 .hello decause 22:11:13 decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' 22:11:18 #chair decause 22:11:18 Current chairs: cydrobolt decause jflory7 stickster 22:12:12 cydrobolt: To be clear -- next Thu would be the *template* unit files article 22:13:09 OK, and we still would love to have any tidbit pieces of news too 22:13:16 Let's move on to pitches 22:13:43 #topic Pitch votes 22:13:46 #link http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&orderby=date&order=asc 22:13:58 *sigh need to fix links for https 22:14:46 #info Varnish -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10743&preview=true 22:14:49 * jflory7 is loading 22:15:14 This is puiterwijk's pitch -- I think we already approved it this one, didn't we? 22:15:29 I think we did. 22:15:48 Probably could go ahead and swap over to Drafts. 22:16:03 * stickster does it 22:16:34 #info KDE -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10850&preview=true 22:16:47 #undo 22:16:47 Removing item from minutes: INFO by stickster at 22:16:34 : KDE -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10850&preview=true 22:16:53 #info KDE Connect -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10850&preview=true 22:17:09 Looks like another user-oriented article for KDE users 22:17:13 +1 from me -- it's something users will find useful 22:17:16 +1 from me 22:17:44 .fas khanger 22:17:44 stickster: sudhirkhanger 'Sudhir Khanger' - donniezazen 'Sudhir Khanger' 22:18:00 * stickster not sure why two accounts, but whatever 22:18:46 jflory7: Can you get in contact with Sudhir, ask him if he wants to write this article, and then ask him to commit to a due date? 22:18:52 * jflory7 nods 22:18:54 Can do. 22:18:56 \o/ 22:19:20 #action jflory7 follow up with Sudhir about the KDE Connect article and try to commit to a due date 22:19:29 beauty, thanks :-) 22:19:45 Yep! 22:20:11 * linuxmodder late 22:20:22 * jflory7 keeps getting logged out of the Magazine every couple minutes... 22:20:23 #info cgroups -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10865&preview=true 22:20:27 What other pitches were left? 22:20:30 Ahh 22:20:51 +1 from me -- this *sorta* goes into systemd series, buuuuuuut not entirely 22:20:52 Is this an extension to the systemd series? 22:20:59 Ahh, I see. 22:21:02 I think it's something we could do outside the series 22:21:14 systemd makes use of cgroups heavily but it's not a requirement that you manage them only with systemd 22:21:15 +1 from me, it would fit right along with the systemd streak going on right now. 22:21:40 Also, hi linuxmodder! 22:21:44 o/ 22:21:57 we're just plugging right along here 22:22:07 stickster, possible to have a article that shows the slight connection that pertains mostly to the selinux side ? 22:22:19 linuxmodder: explain pls? 22:23:01 jds2001 is the person who suggested this article, btw, and I think he might draft it if asked 22:23:07 too often especially on G+ / ask I see issues understanding the cgroups and selinux context bit ---- possible to have a article about the connection to that 22:23:22 linuxmodder: I'll add that to the pitch 22:23:27 I am willing to co-author / proof read 22:23:54 jds2001, feel free to hit me up as needed ( Did a recent review of security guide ) 22:24:38 #agreed cgroups should go forth 22:24:48 #action stickster contact jds2001 about writing the article 22:25:29 * jflory7 nods 22:25:46 #info Cockpit overview -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10867&preview=true 22:26:00 +100 -- MAN do I want to see this article 22:26:18 stickster, you are aware the info link is 404 right? 22:26:29 I think there's definitely high interest for that topic too. 22:26:31 linuxmodder: Make sure you're logged in. 22:26:41 ah doh 22:26:50 +1 for cockpit from me 22:26:55 mattdm, ^^ 22:27:02 sgallagh: I know you have a lot on your plate. Are you interested in writing this article on Cockpit overview for Fedora Magazine? We can guarantee you EVERLASTING FAME AND GLORY 22:27:22 sgallagh: Or feel free to suggest a victi^Wvolunteer 22:27:32 if not reach out to mattdm he did a super badass demo at LISA with me 22:28:16 linuxmodder: Why don't you take a swing at this one? 22:28:42 I'd have to school myself on Cockpit in order to head it up solo 22:28:55 linuxmodder: Ask mattdm + sgallagh for a set of things they'd like to see covered in an overview, then you could use that to train yourself and do screenshots 22:28:55 the fine parts of it all that is 22:29:37 sure I'll email matt tonight 22:29:38 It's not meant to go into gory detail on everything -- just hit the high points of what it lets you do -- I'm sure sgallagh or one of his cohort would be happy to help assemble highlights 22:30:14 #agreed cockpit ftw 22:30:27 he has cohorts ? Thought he was superman :) 22:30:35 #action linuxmodder Pull together highlights on Cockpit from sgallagh &co, and draft the Cockpit article 22:30:44 ack 22:30:48 he is but there's a Justice League, you know 22:30:56 lol 22:31:11 #info nuntius -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10869&preview=true 22:31:29 This is a neat idea, +1 from me, seems short and sweet 22:32:04 linuxmodder: what's your FAS account name? 22:32:09 corey84 22:32:16 .fasinfo corey84 22:32:17 linuxmodder: User: corey84, Name: Corey Sheldon, email: sheldon.corey@gmail.com, Creation: 2014-11-28, IRC Nick: linux-modder, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, GPG key ID: E958C5D6718BF597, Status: active 22:32:20 linuxmodder: Approved Groups: fi-apprentice ambassadors cla_fpca cla_done 22:32:37 stickster, ^ 22:33:12 Hah - I think this one is awesome! I didn't even this existed, I think high draw for that 22:33:16 +1 from me for nuntius 22:33:22 * didn't even know this 22:33:48 linuxmodder: Follow these easy steps: https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/ 22:34:02 #agreed nuntius is nummy 22:34:09 I'm assigning this to Ryan 22:34:15 linuxmodder: Feel free to poke me too if you want another pair of eyes when writing your article. I'm happy to help you get started. :) 22:34:18 #action ryanlerch draft the nuntius article 22:34:19 bookmarked, reread post mtg 22:34:23 jflory7++ 22:35:01 linuxmodder: Once you have signed in via F-Mag let me know and i'll assign the article to you 22:35:52 #info Picard -- https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10885&preview=true 22:35:59 jflory7: Was this approved before? 22:36:05 Nope, not yet. 22:36:16 Hadn't circulated it on the ML 22:36:33 insta-approve 22:36:37 \o/ 22:36:59 I was thinking of having it ready by same time for next Friday or the following following week from now. 22:37:01 MusicBrainz++, I contribute to that all the time 22:37:10 MusicBrainz++ 22:37:14 jflory7: Would be nice to encourage people to contribute album data via this article too 22:37:22 That's what I was hoping to do :) 22:37:43 jflory7: That's awesome, How about we set a draft due date of Nov-27? 22:37:53 Wait, that's Turkey++ Day 22:37:58 Whoops! 22:38:10 * jflory7 forgot for a minute 22:38:21 In that case, let's probably just shoot for the week following the next 22:38:23 How about Dec-02 (Wed following week)? 22:38:37 that way we can check status at that meeting (we will certainly not meet this time next week!) 22:39:06 Could probably have it ready for publication for Nov 30 if we want, otherwise Dec. 2nd is definitely fine by me. 22:39:16 Whichever is easiest :) 22:39:19 people still spend family time on turkey day ? and not early black friday sales ? :) 22:39:20 jflory7: I'd be happy with earlier, honestly 22:39:32 I worry about running short of content with people out for Thanksgiving in the USSA 22:39:35 er, USA 22:39:37 That was not a political joke 22:39:50 stickster, I'm logged in (had timed out and not realized it) 22:39:59 Let's aim for Nov 30 publication date, ready for review at some point over that weekend. Probably was going to draft it this weekend anyways. 22:40:03 Heheh. 22:40:08 jflory7: Boom! 22:40:25 #agreed Picard says make it so 22:40:28 #action jflory7 draft Picard article for intended publication date of November 30 22:40:30 lolz 22:40:37 picard++ 22:40:58 Guys, talk amongst yourself for a second 22:41:04 I need to see what my dog's whining abuot upstairs 22:41:26 So I think that wraps up all the pitches. 22:42:24 back 22:42:31 I actually am not sure what other things we have to cover as far as posts go 22:42:34 #topic Drafts 22:42:44 Just the systemd stuff on deck. 22:42:53 Really, there's not much to cover here -- we need to get the above stories ready (see schedule topic earlier) 22:43:00 * jflory7 nods 22:43:11 I'm a bit concerned about lining up stuff for Thanksgiving week but without more authors I don't know what we can do there, really 22:43:29 I want to have that interview ready ASAP, with the lasers... just depends on the timeliness of my interview subject. :) 22:43:40 I'm going to try to work towards first week of December 22:43:48 But I can't make a solid promise on that one 22:44:29 stickster: can we "recycle" any content? Do a "greatest hits" or something that doesn't require us to do any greenfield? 22:44:35 "re-runs" 22:44:42 I'm sure I'll also come up with another idea or two the next week. If I have something that comes to me, I'll just try to draft it up and have it ready for that December week 22:44:48 decause: That's a very good idea, just need to find something useful 22:44:59 decause++ 22:45:07 stickster: we /are/ going to have a bunch of election interviews 22:45:11 stickster: actually 22:45:16 one of the new commops members 22:45:17 Those will be on commblog, though, correct? 22:45:20 cprofitt 22:45:34 stickster: yeah, those will be, was just thinking out loud 22:45:38 but I got another idea 22:45:46 it's not actually my idea, it was cprofitt 22:45:47 but 22:46:09 He's doing a "Community Appreciation" series of posts on his personal blog right now 22:46:17 and since it is Thanksgiving 22:46:37 we could be "thankful" and do some profiles of people in the community, or projects we are thankful for 22:46:49 we could ask people to send us thank yous, and then we publish them? 22:47:20 ? 22:47:47 decause: All those things do not solve the "not enough people" problem though. 22:48:14 decause: But I like the idea of an article that thanks our community -- maybe point to a wiki page where people can put in "Thank you" thoughts 22:48:15 stickster: if we have a template, and we allow people to respond via email, then we can just copy/paste the best 10 or so into an article? 22:48:39 decause: That would also make it easy -- much better 22:48:55 we could use a hastag even ;) 22:48:58 embed the tweets 22:48:58 decause: Can I put you in charge of that? 22:49:02 talk to bkp about it 22:49:07 +1 for thank you article / wiki redirect 22:49:22 stickster: yeah 22:49:41 #action decause reach out to bkp about "thankful" series during t-giving week 22:49:43 * jflory7 could also lend a hand with this especially, will have a lot more time while classes are winding down 22:50:54 Anyways, sounds like an agreement to me. 22:51:04 decause: So if we curate a set of tweets from a hashtag... that sounds awesome 22:51:17 wouldn't say embed the whole stream, jsut announce a hastag, and then cherrypick some choice ones 22:51:33 nod nod nod 22:51:37 I will talk to bkp about it 22:51:40 decause: Right -- exactly. I dread the "auto-pull" thing because... well, you never know. 22:52:03 stickster: on no way, the troll potential is too high 22:52:06 :P 22:52:21 "I used to believe in the goodness of man 22:52:21 But not anymore since I became one of them 22:52:24 " 22:52:31 nod nod nod 22:53:05 #action decause to talk to bkp about a "thankful" tweet based post for next week 22:53:29 decause: I would target this for Thursday specifically -- can you write a brief 2-3 sentence intro for it? We now can schedule posts properly thanks to Patrick 22:53:38 puiterwijk++ 22:53:44 Oh, don't wake the robot!!! 22:53:58 * puiterwijk wonders what I did to earn cookies this time 22:53:59 stickster: nod nod, assign action plz 22:54:08 Hahah! 22:54:09 But, thanks :) 22:54:37 #action decause start the article now, draft 2-3 sentence intro into which he can insert tweets from bkp and set to schedule/auto-publish 22:54:49 #action decause ping stickster tomorrow morning to tidy up any further details 22:55:02 Awesome awesome 22:55:04 stickster: thanks 22:55:05 #topic Open floor 22:55:15 OK, < 5 min -- anything else? 22:55:15 I have only one thing to add 22:55:17 go! 22:55:17 #action jflory help keep this on the decause/commops radar 22:55:25 :) 22:55:41 jflory7: Here's my ex-FPL official cattle prod, please bring it back in working order 22:56:00 Sadly, I may not be able to make the meetings from January - May, with the exception of a handful. 22:56:09 O noez 22:56:13 stickster: Hahah - I will take it with responsibility! 22:56:21 Yeah. :( 22:56:23 jflory7: If we need to reschedule to get you, we just may do that 22:56:31 if they stay at / close to this time I can take over jflory7 in that interim 22:56:44 Is it a case where a morning may work for you whereas evening doesn't? 22:57:33 Okay, as far as my hours will go, I'll generally be fairly flexible. Monday mornings are looking good for me -- let me take a second look at my schedule 22:57:59 stickster: quick question: for the thankful series, are we extending it to upstream projects too? I know we're Fedora magazine, but the more love/thanks we can show to our Friends, the wider this will spread, IMHO 22:58:13 Actually, Tuesday or Thursday mornings after 9am US EST would work well for me 22:58:23 jflory7: With the no-DST right now, if we do a morning 9:00am EST (just an example) we can easily get ryanlerch here too 22:58:37 mornings++ 22:58:41 ryanlerch being here would be a big bonus, yeah 22:58:54 jflory7: Let's discuss on list and see if we can set up a new time. I'll figure out where I can carve out morning tiem. 22:59:00 Tuesdays are my busy meeting days in the morning 22:59:04 but I can adjust likely 22:59:10 #action jflory7 start thread on marketing@ to talk about adjusting meeting time 22:59:12 whenisgood.net poll incoming :) 22:59:13 jflory7: ^ cool? 22:59:16 stickster: Yeah, sounds good. I'm not 100% on my times yet, but I will be tomorrow. Mailing list works for me. 22:59:19 boom 22:59:20 +1 22:59:24 +1 22:59:34 I'll send that out tomorrow once I am definite about the way things are looking 22:59:36 That's a wrap folks! THANK YOU everyone for coming! 22:59:39 *nod 22:59:40 stickster++ 22:59:42 stickster++ 22:59:45 thanks all 22:59:45 #endmeeting