22:00:11 #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 22:00:11 Meeting started Thu Mar 10 22:00:11 2016 UTC. The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 22:00:12 #meetingname magazine 22:00:12 The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 22:00:14 #topic Roll call 22:00:15 .hello pfrields 22:00:15 stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' 22:00:42 .hello jflory7 22:00:43 jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' 22:01:13 * jflory7 is getting settled 22:01:16 :-) 22:02:13 stickster: So jhogarth noted that apparently our calendar time is incorrect. 22:02:24 Apparently this meeting is over according to Fedocal. :) 22:02:34 Oh? That stinks! I'll fix it. Probably due to UTC setting :-( 22:03:02 stickster, odd think is it has the meeting time as 21:00 UTC ... https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/marketing/#m2876 22:03:15 stickster: I'm thinking so too -- maybe DST? 22:03:31 jhogarth: I'm looking at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/marketing/ and it says 2200 UTC. That's correct 22:03:49 Oh I see 22:03:56 click on the meeting itself ;) 22:03:58 the actual entry reflects something different. Looks like a bug. 22:04:01 doesn't match the big view 22:04:08 aaaaanyway ... 22:04:22 Yep, it's a bug 22:05:38 * jflory7 is hitting the comments queue before we get rolling 22:05:50 #topic Last week review 22:06:32 * linuxmodder late 22:06:50 #info jflory7 didn't get Wednesday's article edited in time "Project Remote Dependency Solving" 22:07:04 I think I put a little too much on my plate for this week. 22:07:31 jflory7, bad bad editor :) 22:07:42 jflory7: I did get the Cockpit article edited, and it's going out tomorrow on time. 22:07:46 stickster++ 22:07:54 Good to know that's ready to go and scheduled. 22:08:02 stickster: Nice featured image. :) 22:08:18 thanks 22:08:18 * jflory7 notes... maybe change yum => dnf? 22:08:30 I can grab that 22:08:33 whoops, that's probably because croberts was on an older box 22:08:34 thanks 22:08:41 good catch 22:09:04 I could have probably rewritten this article to be more explanatory. But I decided to leave it in the author's voice. 22:09:14 * jflory7 nods 22:09:39 It's still nice to finally see this article idea get out to the front page. :) 22:09:45 jflory7: Should we go ahead with pending review posts? 22:09:52 stickster: +1 22:10:10 jflory7: #topic Pending Review posts 22:10:27 #topic Pending Review posts 22:10:33 Whoops, need chair. 22:10:39 whoops 22:10:43 #topic Pending Review posts 22:10:45 #chair jflory7 22:10:46 Current chairs: jflory7 stickster 22:10:48 stickster++ 22:10:51 #info == Project Remote Dependency Solving == 22:11:03 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12113&preview=true 22:11:16 #info jflory7 still has the editing baton 22:11:20 Any ETA you want to set here? 22:11:26 like push to Monday? 22:11:34 Hmmm... 22:11:50 Yeah. 22:12:04 will that work? 22:12:17 I don't know your real workload/schedule... although I see you running an awful lot of meetings lately! 22:12:19 #action jflory7 Get "Project Remote Dependency Solving" edited and reviewed by Sunday evening, schedule for Monday 8:00 UTC 22:12:30 * ryanlerch is here now! 22:12:56 Hi ryanlerch 22:12:58 stickster: Yeah, this week and the next have been fairly exam heavy too, so my time is crunched for next week too. However, I'll have a good bit of time that following week. 22:13:04 hi stickster jflory7 ! 22:13:05 ryanlerch: Ha, I just pinged you in email, disregard 22:13:11 * jflory7 has a LOT of great article interviews to get out! 22:13:15 #chair ryanlerch 22:13:15 Current chairs: jflory7 ryanlerch stickster 22:13:17 ryanlerch: Hiya! Welcome welcome. :) 22:13:24 jflory7: Maybe we should push this back further 22:13:37 jflory7: ISTR we had a bunch of other "maybes" to come 22:14:02 #idea push this article back to Monday 2016-Mar-21 publication 22:14:15 stickster: I'll have some free cycles where I can probably do Wednesday or Friday's article for next week, but probably just one next week, I think. 22:15:20 What if we do this one Wednesday? 22:15:30 I'm OK with that if you are 22:15:45 If there's a featured image, it shall be done. :) 22:15:49 #undo 22:15:49 Removing item from minutes: IDEA by stickster at 22:14:02 : push this article back to Monday 2016-Mar-21 publication 22:15:52 Hmm. 22:15:54 #undo 22:15:54 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 22:12:19 : jflory7 Get "Project Remote Dependency Solving" edited and reviewed by Sunday evening, schedule for Monday 8:00 UTC 22:16:11 jflory7: There's not right now 22:16:21 #action jflory7 Get "Project Remote Dependency Solving" edited and reviewed by Sunday evening, schedule for Wednesday, 2016-03-16 @ 8:00 UTC 22:16:28 ryanlerch: I'm REALLY crunched for time this weekend. Would you be able to do a featured image for that one? 22:16:32 Whoops, not Sunday. Let's try one more time... 22:16:33 #undo 22:16:34 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 22:16:21 : jflory7 Get "Project Remote Dependency Solving" edited and reviewed by Sunday evening, schedule for Wednesday, 2016-03-16 @ 8:00 UTC 22:16:36 haha 22:16:41 #action jflory7 Get "Project Remote Dependency Solving" edited and reviewed by Tuesday evening, schedule for Wednesday, 2016-03-16 @ 8:00 UTC 22:16:44 There. :) 22:17:10 stickster: yeah i will do it today! this is for the remote deps solving one? 22:17:14 ryanlerch: correct 22:17:30 opening a ticket in the pagure now 22:17:36 Which is great, because I have *no* idea how to tackle that one 22:17:44 other than "hey, pretty text on a background" 22:17:50 #action ryanlerch do featured image for remote dep solving articele 22:17:57 ryanlerch++ 22:18:00 ryanlerch++ 22:18:06 Sounds like this article will be set then. 22:18:11 jflory7: stickster feel free to open tickets in that pagure for new images. 22:18:19 will do! 22:18:20 #info == Installing another desktop == 22:18:25 ryanlerch: https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-images ? 22:18:27 jflory7, what is needed still on that article ? 22:18:32 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=11395&preview=true 22:18:55 linuxmodder: It just needs the editing pass. I can take care of that one. :) 22:19:06 noted 22:19:16 linuxmodder: hang in there, I think we have an idea for you coming 22:19:33 So on this article... it's actually a MATE article now, so it needs a new title 22:19:34 stickster, oh lordy 22:19:35 This one looks like it just needs a good pass too. Content length and coverage seems solid, scrolling through 22:19:36 * stickster fixes 22:19:45 I'm starting to run dry on cycles jsut fyi 22:19:46 stickster++ 22:20:17 jflory7: ticket created: https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-images/issue/2 22:20:19 linuxmodder: Whatever it is, I'll make sure it won't take much of your time... no more than any other article 22:20:30 ryanlerch: Cool, noted -- I will image requests there for now on. :) 22:20:30 and you can always say no ;-) 22:20:57 on that last article I'd add the fact it allows you to be more testing freindly (irc support sig and qa sig ) 22:21:12 jflory7: I can edit this MATE article, it's short and self contained. Can finish that tonight, and set it up for Monday publication if you want. 22:21:22 stickster++ That would be *awesome* 22:21:26 Sounds like a good plan to me. 22:21:36 #action stickster edit MATE article and make featured image for publication 22:21:47 And that will knock out both of the pending review articles for next week. :) 22:22:35 To drafts? 22:22:37 #topic Drafts 22:22:57 also would mention that there is a diff between shortname and full name and syntax diffs on 11395 article 22:23:38 will save my remaining editor comments for later on that article mostly minor things 22:23:45 Looks like the first draft is jhogarth's article? :) 22:23:54 #info == Owncloud in Fedora == 22:23:58 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12193&preview=true 22:24:34 The scope and length seems solid to me. 22:24:41 Maybe some screenshots, though :) 22:24:45 Showing it running and in action 22:24:49 In tandem with a featured image 22:25:16 This article feels more like a "Pending review" to me. :) 22:25:19 jflory7, is it possible to add such video to media and not kill media space on wp ? 22:25:31 like a 30 sec clip ? 22:25:37 linuxmodder: Probably better to upload to YouTube and embed in WordPress 22:25:49 jflory7: +1 22:25:51 Let YouTube servers take care of the streaming. :) 22:25:57 ah didnt realize we had that plugin yeah that makes sense 22:26:03 So, I think I could see this article shipping Friday. 22:26:06 and more publicity that way 22:26:17 same here at first glance... jhogarth, can you find a static screenshot that shows Owncloud in action on Fedora? 22:26:35 * stickster has never used it and has no idea whether there is anything to look at. 22:26:42 if it's just a daemon, forget it 22:27:05 I think there's a front-end side to it via a web administration panel... I think. 22:27:12 that would be good then 22:27:25 Not sure if jhogarth is still with us, though. 22:27:54 I'm down for a pending review on the OC article 22:27:56 linuxmodder: Here's a thing for you then, should be short enough for small cycles... contact jhogarth and get him to contribute a screenshot. 22:28:14 * stickster moves it to PR 22:28:18 Sounds like a good plan. 22:28:42 Needed by next Wednesday, so we can get it in the hopper for Friday 22:28:45 #action linuxmodder to collaborate with jhogarth for screenshots |short video for OwnCloud article for Friday 22:28:52 oops you'll need this 22:28:54 #chair linuxmodder 22:28:55 Current chairs: jflory7 linuxmodder ryanlerch stickster 22:28:59 #action linuxmodder to collaborate with jhogarth for screenshots |short video for OwnCloud article for Friday 22:29:24 so publish day is next wed or friday? 22:29:39 Hmmm... this one looks like a fairly easy edit pass... I think I might actually be able to take this on, unless anyone has a lot of open cycles and has plenty of time otherwise to work on it. 22:29:40 linuxmodder: screenshot needed Wed; we will set the article to publish on Friday 22:29:50 noted 22:30:06 jflory7: I wouldn't say I have plenty of time, but I'm willing to do it. Sylvia's article won't take that much time either. 22:30:14 jflory7: you need to concentrate on exams ;-) 22:30:31 someone with yt plugin access may need to be handy tho if we do a video I can push it to yt (used to it on my wp but access ) 22:30:35 apologies - pizza arrived at door and wife pinned down by baby 22:30:37 #action stickster Edit Owncloud article by next Wed 2016-Mar-16 22:30:47 linuxmodder: We should be able to do this with , though, yes? 22:30:55 ryanlerch: ^ 22:31:00 depends on size but yes 22:31:00 stickster, I can get a screenshot or two no problem 22:31:03 Or 22:31:06 stickster: Hahah, then I'll let you take this one. In exchange, the following week, if you want to take a week break from edits, I'll be off for all of that week. :) 22:31:16 jflory7: I may just take you up on it, but let's see 22:31:22 jhogarth, we can do a screenshot of 8.x 9.x and or short vid (yt) by wed yes? 22:31:22 * jflory7 has a lot of backburner Magazine articles he has been saving too 22:31:51 jhogarth: No worries! As for screenshots, that sounds excellent to me. :) 22:32:02 * stickster files featured image issue 22:32:04 linuxmodder, easy 22:32:33 I would like editors to reserve the right to yay/nay the video 22:32:38 if you need any help with navigatign the embed things jhogarth just ping me 22:32:47 linuxmodder++ 22:32:48 jhogarth: Karma for corey84 changed to 7 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 22:33:15 In the short term, how about let's plan for screenshots, short 30 second video sample can be icing on the cake if we have it? 22:33:25 stickster: i think there are video embedding stuff included in wp 22:33:27 jflory7, noted 22:33:34 ryanlerch: There might be -- I haven't looked in a while! 22:33:34 ryanlerch: Yep, they embed super easily. 22:33:46 ryanlerch, there are we have one apparently but it has size and length limits 22:33:55 i think if you just put a youtube link as text, it jsut works 22:33:56 jhogarth: Does ^^^ that plan sound good? 22:34:03 jflory7, sounds fine to me 22:34:07 does anyoone know if its the free or pro embed yt plugin? 22:34:09 ryanlerch: Yeah, that's how it works. 22:34:14 linuxmodder: No plugins. It's native. :) 22:34:20 We did this on the Community Blog recently. 22:34:24 ah self hosted nice 22:34:35 jhogarth++ Fantastic! 22:34:45 * jhogarth goes afk for pizza with missus now oC draft discussion done 22:34:56 thanks jhogarth 22:34:58 jhogarth++ 22:34:58 stickster: Karma for jhogarth changed to 6 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 22:35:12 #agreed jhogarth will get one or two screenshots for the ownCloud article by Wednesday; a 30 second video sample will be extra and can be embedded in for the article if we have it ready to go 22:35:22 jhogarth: Thanks for coming out tonight! 22:35:42 #action jhogarth Get one or two screenshots for ownCloud article by Wednesday, 2016-03-16 22:35:47 Alrighty. Next up? 22:36:36 that's puiterwijk 's vpn draft tehn no? 22:36:52 Huh? 22:37:10 linuxmodder: I have Gimp next in my books 22:37:24 ah my bad thought we did that one already 22:37:29 Let's all thank puiterwijk for fighting the good fight against spammers today 22:37:36 puiterwijk, re: your openvpn protect your butt article 22:38:01 What's up with it? 22:38:02 #info == Gimp – A fast overview == 22:38:07 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=11874&preview=true 22:38:10 Okay, if you need me, I'll be there in a bit. 22:38:10 Thanks jflory7 22:38:35 So this one is only about 1/4 of the way through the menu tour and it's already quite long! 22:38:56 I think we're in the same spot as last week on this one, but I know the MATE article was the higher priority for finishing. 22:39:17 stickster: I'm feeling like the images are helping buff it up a bit too. 22:39:27 So... I hate to do this, but I have to cut and run for my daughter's school band concert. They're so disrespectful of my meeting schedule! 22:39:41 stickster: Acknowledged. Want me to take over? 22:39:45 I have my action items though for a couple articles, so I can contribute to publishing toward next week's three 22:39:52 jflory7: if you or ryanlerch can do it, that would be great 22:40:05 stickster: We'll keep your schedule for next week where it is for now. :) 22:40:10 Thanks guys, see you in the funny papers :-) 22:40:11 Yeah, it's no problem, I can 22:40:18 See ya! Enjoy your evening. :) 22:40:27 ttfn 22:40:52 So, since Sylvia was working on the MATE article for her cycles, this one is presumably next up on her plate 22:40:58 I'm +1 for just checking in next week again. 22:41:14 There's no high priority demand to get it done before our next meeting. 22:41:16 same, I can do soem proofing too 22:41:34 I think she's still in the process of writing it too 22:41:38 So we'll just come back to this one. 22:42:05 #agreed Sylvia just finished the MATE article, so this article is still in progress. We will check in next week and see if it's ready to move forward. 22:42:19 #info == Protect your privacy with OpenVPN == 22:42:25 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10253&preview=true 22:42:42 So this is a really really really old Holding Pen article I started but couldn't finish back in October. :) 22:42:53 puiterwijk and I were going to do dual authorship on this one. 22:43:04 However, I know his cycles have been pretty full (not sure how things are looking now?). 22:43:16 seems solid form my standpoint as is 22:43:17 jflory7: I will know more in a bit. 22:43:18 In either case, fale also volunteered last week to pen this article if puiterwijk wanted to pass the torch over. 22:43:33 jflory7: I want to finish the article... 22:43:42 puiterwijk: Okay, cool, then we will keep it as is. :) 22:43:44 puiterwijk++ 22:43:58 Want to check in next week on this? 22:44:00 Sorry for the delays, but I've been in an arms race with spammers 22:44:11 jflory7: I hope I can tomorrow, or anywhere next week, sure. 22:44:12 Maybe set a tentative due date for Sunday, 2016-03-20? 22:44:25 Ack 22:44:45 i can help add content too if needed I use vpns like its the cool thing to do 22:44:46 puiterwijk: If you have it finished before that Sunday, even better. :) However, if it's done by 03-20, we can have it go out that following morning on Monday for sure. 22:44:51 puiterwijk++ 22:45:21 linuxmodder: well, I'm planning to rewrite a bit.. but we'll see what jflory7 thinks of my ideas when I talk to him about it 22:45:22 #agreed puiterwijk will work on this article during the next week and add the technical aspect to setting up the client and server in Fedora; to be completed at the latest by 2016-03-20 22:45:28 jflory7, puiterwijk want me to hack on it some too? 22:45:54 #action puiterwijk Work on OpenVPN article for target completion date of 2016-03-20 for a publication of 2016-03-21 22:46:05 linuxmodder: We'll see where things are next week. 22:46:08 For now, it seems covered to me. 22:46:15 jflory7: seems other people want to take it that badly. Feel free to go ahead with others if you prefer. I'll just write my idea in a personal blog if you prefer to work with others 22:46:16 So, that's all the drafts. 22:46:45 puiterwijk: Well, you have the claims on this article first, so I think you get first rights to it in my opinion. :) 22:47:02 Ack 22:47:18 For now, if there's no opposition, let's keep things the way they are. 22:47:22 #topic Pitches 22:47:43 #info == FOSSASIA 2016: Singapore == 22:47:46 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12178&preview=true 22:47:51 This one looks more like a draft to me. 22:48:20 woohuiren++ for drafting this one up! I don't know if it would have popped up on my radar otherwise. 22:48:20 jflory7: Karma for woohuiren changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 22:48:22 puiterwijk, I'm merely offering assistance not a takeover :) 22:48:48 Hmmmmm... 22:49:00 Looking over this article, it's fairly short and sweet. 22:49:23 Since it's talking about upcoming Ambassador activity, I'm actually thinking it is more suitable for the Community Blog over the Magazine. 22:49:29 linuxmodder: okay, cool. Sorry, I was a bit stressed due to major fallout so reading partially there. 22:49:56 If it were to be a Magazine article, I think it could use a little more meat to it. 22:49:58 puiterwijk, I respect your skills merely try to help where I can 22:50:05 However, I would call it "ideal length" for a Community Blog article. 22:50:20 the FOSSASIA oen jflory7 ? 22:50:27 Anyone opposed to asking woohuiren to port this one over to the Community Blog? 22:50:29 linuxmodder: Correct. 22:51:04 +1 porting to blog 22:51:22 maybe a later mag article with a kickback ping 22:51:40 Yeah, post-event, I like the idea of full report on Community Blog + pointer article on Magazine. 22:51:49 * jflory7 is in the process of doing this for BrickHack already. 22:51:58 So, let's go ahead and set this one in motion. 22:52:13 or pre event on blog magazine carrying the post event with a cross kick to pre event blog 22:52:48 tieing everything together and getting both cross posting publicitiy 22:53:21 #agreed Ask woohuiren about moving this article to the Community Blog and publishing there; content length is more ideal for Community Blog and also is definitely an article about what our Ambassador community in APAC is up to :) 22:53:51 We also have the other pitch from last week about the "Files" app series 22:53:58 #info == Using the Files app series == 22:54:02 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12091&preview=true 22:54:26 #info Already approved this series last week; waiting to begin drafting this or if anyone is looking for an easy article to pick up, this is your lucky day! 22:54:40 This is definitely a *great* series for a new writer to check out. :) 22:54:44 If anyone is looking for something. 22:55:05 In interest of time, though, I want to put a few ideas that are in the coming future of solidifying soon. 22:55:12 I have a few things I'm planning on publishing. 22:55:38 jflory7, I will pick that one up in my ambassador track on my blog when it goes live 22:55:50 #idea WEEK OF 2016-03-21: BrickHack 2016 event report summary on the Magazine, will serve as a pointer post to the full event report on the Community Blog 22:56:32 I'd do that reversed to be honest 22:56:52 #idea WEEK OF 2016-03-21: "The Black Box" nuclear number random generator by RIT student; interview and project overview, lesson on open source development 22:56:53 #link http://brendan-w.com/rng 22:57:07 an post event for that one would be better length for mag imo and would make better for GSoC period imo 22:58:19 linuxmodder: No, I think it's better for these kind of things on the Community Blog. The CommBlog is a great source for things specific to our community of contributors and activities of what they're up to. The report is going to mainly focus on a lot of less "external" sort of things, like measuring our impact there, what went well, maybe what didn't go as well, how we can improve, and so on and so forth. I like leaving the invitation open for 22:58:19 someone to read further (i.e. opening the invitation on the Magazine), but having the "real details" on the Community Blog. 22:58:33 not a bad idea (the rng one) 22:58:47 Speaking of GSoC... 22:59:20 we have an article in the works no? 22:59:25 #idea WEEK OF 2016-03-21: GSoC 2016 dual post on the Community Blog and Fedora Magazine announcing Fedora's participation in the 2016 cycle ("Apply now, get involved with Fedora, get paid working on FOSS!") 23:00:16 jflory7, apps open on the 14th tho so make sure the apply now part mentions applications are already open by then 23:00:50 #idea WEEK OF 2016-03-21: Interview with Jonathan Dieter, school teacher in Lebanon using Fedora to power their schools, curriculum, and more. Good example of how Fedora is being used in K-12 teaching all over the world! 23:01:12 linuxmodder: Gaaaah. That's good info to know... I might have to expedite this for over the weekend. 23:01:38 jflory7, I'm mentoring 4 or 5 subs I can help co-author if needed 23:01:42 Well, that's all the ideas I wanted to put out, but that's what's coming up in the near future. :) 23:01:53 linuxmodder: Acknowledged, thanks! Might take you up on that. 23:01:58 #topic Open Floor 23:02:01 we already have 5 metee prospects asking to start early 23:02:03 Anything else for us to hit tonight? 23:02:20 puiterwijk, still around? 23:02:30 linuxmodder: yeah 23:02:33 In terms of content, it seems to me we're going to be in very good shape for the rest of March. 23:02:50 A bit of a pick-up over February's publishing rates, anyways. :) 23:03:01 puiterwijk, would you be game for a series on openvpn to break up that article much like jflory7 and cprofitt did for gpg ? 23:03:19 linuxmodder: Hmmm. How are we wanting to turn it into a series? 23:03:29 * jflory7 notes we are over time... maybe better for a mailing list discussion? 23:03:40 or just discussion on #-magazine 23:03:41 much like you did the generate , validate , use 23:03:51 puiterwijk: Yep, that too. 23:03:56 +1 for -magazine 23:04:01 linuxmodder: right, but for VPN you basically have use, use, use. 23:04:07 Errr -- #fedora-mktg rather. :) 23:04:16 anyway, let's move channel for that 23:04:24 puiterwijk: Yeah, I personally feel like it's more of a one-off kind of article. 23:04:32 Anyways... to -mktg! 23:04:34 #endmeeting