21:01:26 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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21:01:30 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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21:01:33 <stickster> #topic Roll call
21:01:35 <stickster> .hello pfrields
21:01:36 <jflory7_> .hello jflory7
21:01:36 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
21:01:42 <zodbot> jflory7_: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
21:01:49 <stickster> o/ Justin!
21:02:00 <jflory7_> Hiya!
21:02:12 <stickster> So Justin, tonight I need to depart at :45
21:02:18 * jflory7_ nods
21:02:26 <stickster> so I'm hoping we can skip "last week in review" since there's not much to report :-(
21:02:47 <jflory7_> Yeah, this week has been pretty quiet. I'm +1 to jumping straight into it.
21:02:49 <stickster> *but*... I tried to help with this today: https://fedoramagazine.org/bc-command-line-calculator/
21:03:22 <stickster> I think we need to get some shorter stuff queued up for ideas
21:03:30 <stickster> and start handing those out as assignments
21:03:42 <jflory7_> stickster++ Agreed.
21:04:38 <jflory7_> It would make it a little easier to keep weeks like this flowing with some content
21:04:46 <stickster> Here are some examples of top searches I found:
21:04:53 <stickster> * How to add a user to sudoers
21:05:16 <stickster> * How to install an RPM
21:06:46 <stickster> * How to download <-- this one is a bit tricky, not sure that's a one article solution
21:07:05 <jflory7_> How to download?
21:07:23 <stickster> yeah, that seems like "How to download Fedora" and I think that's a bit of a rathole
21:07:32 <stickster> (Which Fedora? For what kind of computer? etc.)
21:07:36 <jflory7_> Ohh, okay, gotcha.
21:07:57 <jflory7_> These ideas sound good to me, and definitely something that would be easy for new writers to pick up.
21:07:59 <stickster> However, we could do a quick article for that which basically points to getfedora.org, but also has brief mentions for spins and labs.
21:08:16 <stickster> jflory7_: These are pretty simplistic -- but they will drive a lot of traffic to the magazine for sure.
21:08:26 <jflory7_> I wonder if we could create a new post category for "starter articles", and we could put stubs for new authors to look at and try taking their hand on one.
21:08:36 <jflory7_> Definitely, high searchability :)
21:08:36 <stickster> jflory7_: I don't see why not
21:08:53 * stickster wonders if ryanlerch is around
21:09:06 <jflory7_> That might be helpful for us too so if we think of something, we could drop it in as a new stub and keep it there for a new author.
21:10:45 * ryanlerch is here!
21:10:49 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
21:10:50 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'ryan lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
21:10:53 <ryanlerch> sorry i'm late!
21:11:00 <jflory7_> o/
21:11:12 <stickster> #chair ryanlerch jflory7_
21:11:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7_ ryanlerch stickster
21:11:29 <stickster> #info shared some ideas for top searches found on Google
21:11:46 <stickster> #idea make a new post category for "starter articles", and stub out for new authors
21:11:48 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
21:11:49 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
21:12:02 <stickster> ^ ryanlerch that's where we're at right now -- there's not much to review, and not much done for this coming week :-(
21:12:05 <ryanlerch> stickster: another simple thing in in this same vein would be to cover some of the gnome-shell extensions
21:12:14 <stickster> ryanlerch: That's not a bad idea either
21:12:48 <stickster> ryanlerch: I did a quickie article today to make sure the magazine wasn't dark for a week
21:12:49 <ryanlerch> that is still very workstaion-centric again though :(
21:13:24 <stickster> ryanlerch: I have an article coming soon from lmacken on using Yubikey with Fedora
21:13:32 <ryanlerch> stickster: ooh, thanks for that!
21:13:32 <stickster> which is more sysadmin-y
21:13:37 <x3mboy> Nice!
21:13:38 <ryanlerch> stickster++
21:13:38 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for pfrields changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:13:58 <x3mboy> stickster++
21:13:59 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for pfrields changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:14:03 <jflory7_> stickster++ lmacken++
21:14:03 <zodbot> jflory7_: Karma for lmacken changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:14:35 <stickster> yay cookies
21:15:08 <stickster> ryanlerch: I think if those two new articles on Fedora features (AH developer mode + OpenShift Origin) aren't going to be done, just trash them altogether
21:15:44 <stickster> or pop them in Holding Pen
21:17:12 <stickster> x3mboy: Hey btw, do I recall correctly that you had done an article draft recently?
21:18:03 <x3mboy> stickster: nop
21:18:06 <stickster> ah ok
21:18:11 <stickster> well anyhoo...
21:18:32 <x3mboy> I will do one this weekend, hopefully
21:18:35 <stickster> ryanlerch: jflory7_: So what are some likely candidates for extensions we could cover?
21:18:38 <ryanlerch> stickster: holding pen for now i think!
21:18:41 <x3mboy> But i'm still not sure about it
21:18:43 <stickster> ryanlerch++
21:18:56 <x3mboy> I'll comment it in the Open Floor
21:19:24 <ryanlerch> i was thikning i might cover the screenshot one in a little more detail
21:19:30 <stickster> #topic Ideas for extensions
21:19:32 <jflory7_> I wish system-monitor was still updated, that was a great one. We could cover some really simple ones, like Caffeine, but that's definitely a stub.
21:19:38 <ryanlerch> also open for suggestions on this one!
21:19:42 <stickster> #idea the enhanced screenshot extesnsion
21:19:57 <stickster> jflory7_: I use Caffeine all the time
21:19:59 <jflory7_> Maybe even an article _about_ extensions? e.g. extensions.gnome.org?
21:20:02 <stickster> I'd be happy to do that
21:20:13 <jflory7_> Perhaps some users aren't aware they can search for extensions there as-is
21:20:17 <nirik> openweather. ;) alternative tab?
21:20:20 <stickster> jflory7_: That's a great idea
21:20:22 <stickster> nirik: also good
21:20:27 <ryanlerch> there are also a few that that packaged in Fedora too
21:20:29 <stickster> #idea How to install a GNOME extension
21:20:30 <jflory7_> AlternateTab is a good one :)
21:20:34 <stickster> #idea Caffeine
21:20:40 <stickster> #idea AlternateTab
21:20:45 <stickster> #idea openweather
21:21:12 * stickster already had https://fedoramagazine.org/work-sprints-with-pomodoro-timer/
21:21:30 <jflory7_> I also use TopIcons, which adds the legacy tray back to the top menu.
21:21:52 <jflory7_> I was going to say Pomodoro, until I remembered that it was a Magazine article that had me install it in the first place. ;)
21:22:05 * stickster wrote that one!
21:22:44 * nirik notes theres a taskwarrior one, but it's not packaged and might not even be on extensions.gnome.org
21:22:57 <ryanlerch> nirik: ooh! that one is worth a look!
21:23:32 <ryanlerch> nirik: any other ideas for similar articles? -- maybe not gnome extenstions, but things that might be of use to sysadmins?
21:24:21 <jflory7_> Do we actually have a Taskwarrior article?
21:24:49 <nirik> not sure. Perhaps a yubikey for ssh one? nb might be the one for that...
21:24:55 <x3mboy> gnome-shell-extensions didn't work in cinnamon?
21:25:38 <ryanlerch> x3mboy: my guess is maybe -- but probably not very well
21:26:33 <jflory7_> So it turns out the system-monitor extension is updated, but not via extensions.gnome.org anymore. https://github.com/paradoxxxzero/gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet/tree/gnome-3.2
21:26:47 <jflory7_> Wouldn't be a point-and-click guide, but I think this one would turn some views
21:27:06 <ryanlerch> jflory7_: might be worth getting it packaged into fedora
21:27:19 <jflory7_> It's a really nice one
21:27:21 <stickster> jflory7_: I don't think we have a TW article, but I could be wrong
21:27:39 <jflory7_> Even though that banch doesn't seem to be maintained, but master was pushed to in April
21:27:50 <jflory7_> * branch
21:28:14 <stickster> fix for GNOME 3.8?
21:28:16 <stickster> hm
21:28:57 <nb> nirik, I could be presuaded to write such an article
21:29:07 * nb might work on that tomorrow at work if he isn't busy
21:29:10 <ryanlerch> nb++
21:29:10 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for nb changed to 7 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:29:11 <jflory7_> Yubikey + SSH would be super cool.
21:29:14 <jflory7_> nb++
21:29:31 <ryanlerch> yeah, some more content like that would be awesome!
21:29:50 <ryanlerch> nb: we are having a bit of a brainstorm here, feel free to throw some ideas down :)
21:30:20 <stickster> nirik: jflory7_: nb: I think lmacken was writing an article about Yubikey already
21:30:30 <nb> oh ok
21:30:32 <stickster> I assigned that to him in a managerial sense :-) draft due next week
21:30:35 <jflory7_> Was it about using it in the desktop or with SSH?
21:30:47 <stickster> jflory7_: He was going to do setup and using it in several contexts
21:30:48 <jflory7_> I think both would be good articles if it's not already being covered.
21:30:52 <jflory7_> Ahhh, I see.
21:31:01 <stickster> jflory7_: I might end up splitting it after the fact, but it will depend on length
21:31:05 <nirik> ah, cool. ;)
21:31:18 <ryanlerch> # idea from nirik OpenWeather https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/750/openweather/
21:31:19 * stickster told lmacken he would edit it
21:31:47 <stickster> Any other extensions to include? If not we can /topic to another brainstorm
21:31:58 <x3mboy> I never made work any method of authentication in LightDM different than user+password
21:31:59 <stickster> also, can someone volunteer to stub these #ideas out?
21:32:18 <ryanlerch> stickster: i can do that today!
21:32:25 <stickster> cool ryanlerch, thanks!
21:32:39 <ryanlerch> well, austrlaian today :)
21:32:41 <stickster> #action ryanlerch stub out above extension ideas into Pitches
21:32:54 <stickster> ;-)
21:33:09 <stickster> Is cprofitt around?
21:33:30 * stickster notes we have several people who volunteered in the "feedback" section to be interviewed for HDYF
21:33:52 <ryanlerch> stickster: ooh, thanks for checking that!
21:34:04 <jflory7_> I think Charles has checked there in the past, but not sure how recently.
21:34:10 <ryanlerch> we don't get emails from that, so i check it (somewhat) regularly
21:34:34 <ryanlerch> jflory7_: he checked it about a month ago IIRC
21:34:42 * jflory7_ nods
21:35:12 <jflory7_> On the idea of the feedback page...
21:35:40 <jflory7_> It would be convenient if we could get that fedoramagazine-tips email list set up as a private mailing list (to subscribe to), but public for anyone to send to, kind of like how OSDC does it.
21:35:54 <jflory7_> So then people could help add to our idea pool of things they think would be cool to see written about
21:36:05 <jflory7_> But also to socialize the presence / availability of that
21:36:36 <ryanlerch> jflory7_: we have the private email address set up, but the thing we were waiting on was that email from the magazine didnt work
21:36:43 <jflory7_> Ooh, I see
21:36:45 <ryanlerch> this when it was with openshift IIRC
21:36:50 <stickster> jflory7_: Not a bad idea, do you want to file a ticket with infrastructure for that?
21:36:59 <ryanlerch> might just need to chat to puiterwijk to see if we can troubleshoot that
21:37:07 <stickster> orrrrr never mind jflory7_  :-D
21:37:18 <jflory7_> https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/208
21:37:40 <ryanlerch> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/fedoramagazine-tips@lists.fedoraproject.org/
21:37:46 <ryanlerch> that was the list created for this
21:38:36 <stickster> Oh I didn't realize that existed either
21:38:48 <ryanlerch> yeah, it has never really been used
21:38:52 <stickster> So what's the next thing that needs to happen?
21:39:33 <ryanlerch> the reason why emails arent coming from the magazine needs to be troubleshot? troubleshooted?
21:39:45 <stickster> yeah
21:39:56 * puiterwijk reads back
21:40:01 <puiterwijk> what do I need to troubleshoot?
21:40:13 <ryanlerch> https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/208
21:40:36 <puiterwijk> Oh, okay. That's firewalling and config. Will take care of that tonight
21:40:45 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: awesome!
21:41:10 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: we also have fedoramagazine-tips, a private mailing list thta might be good to send all adminy emails to?
21:41:18 <ryanlerch> so we can all read them?
21:41:19 <stickster> Yeah, it's just "fatal: parameter inet_interfaces: no local interface found for ::1"
21:41:25 <puiterwijk> ryanlerch: sure..
21:41:31 <puiterwijk> stickster: you can ignore that.
21:41:58 <puiterwijk> That means it's trying ipv6, which we don't have in the cloud unfortunately
21:43:05 <stickster> k
21:43:13 * stickster is out of time -- jflory7_  or ryanlerch can you take over?
21:43:36 <stickster> I'm happy to take on an edit or writing task, I'll have at least a few hours this weekend to work on Magazine
21:44:24 <ryanlerch> stickster: NP
21:44:41 * stickster will check back on stuff
21:44:47 <stickster> jflory7_: Could you publish minutes?
21:45:06 <jflory7_> Yes, I can!
21:45:36 <ryanlerch> jflory7_++
21:45:56 <x3mboy> jflory7_++
21:46:22 <stickster> thanks!
21:46:24 * stickster vamooses
21:50:33 <jflory7_> Sorry, timed out there for a second
21:50:39 <ryanlerch> jflory7_: what else today for the meeting?
21:50:48 <x3mboy> jflory7_ any other topic?
21:51:08 <linuxmodder> .hello linuxmodder
21:51:09 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org>
21:51:13 <x3mboy> linuxmodder: o/
21:51:19 <jflory7_> I don't know of any articles needing review right now. We do have the one HDYF article with Dale Raby that can go out whenever we think it's best.
21:51:42 <jflory7_> linuxmodder was thinking the Seafile article wouldn't be salvageable from a compsec perspective, I think.
21:51:42 <x3mboy> Mmm ok
21:51:48 <linuxmodder> jflory7_,  any word on your end from mrmittal?
21:52:00 <linuxmodder> OPSEC not  compsec
21:52:28 <jflory7_> Outside of that, I think going off of the ideas for easier stubs for new writers is our best bet right now.
21:53:08 <jflory7_> linuxmodder: Ah, I thought you had reached out to him?
21:53:09 <x3mboy> I have a friend, that wrote to the list to start writting for the magazine
21:53:13 <ryanlerch> jflory7_: too easy!
21:53:17 <jflory7_> :)
21:53:22 <linuxmodder> x3mboy,  as a general rule having users su - anything is  bad juju
21:53:28 <x3mboy> But now he's in FISL
21:53:30 <ryanlerch> i'll stub these out today / yall's tonight
21:53:33 <linuxmodder> I attempted but no dice of yet
21:53:36 <jflory7_> ryanlerch++
21:53:43 <ryanlerch> linuxmodder: like docker?
21:53:52 <linuxmodder> ryanlerch,  huh?
21:54:05 <ryanlerch> nvrmind
21:54:20 <linuxmodder> ryanlerch,  what were you talking about ?
21:54:42 <jflory7_> Anyways, not sure if my previous message sent, but I can get the minutes.
21:55:16 <x3mboy> I want to ask something before meeting ends
21:55:31 <jflory7_> x3mboy: Go for it!
21:55:33 <linuxmodder> x3mboy,  go
21:55:45 <ryanlerch> https://developer.fedoraproject.org/tools/docker/docker-installation.html
21:55:47 <x3mboy> I have an idea to an article, but i'm not sure if it fits in the magazine
21:55:57 <ryanlerch> linuxmodder: Why can’t I use docker command as a non root user, by default?
21:56:08 <puiterwijk> ryanlerch: because docker does some insecure things
21:56:23 <linuxmodder> ryanlerch,  you can but  using su - to do so is VERY BAD
21:56:26 <x3mboy> It's kind of tutorial about a home NAS server with fedora workstation
21:56:26 <puiterwijk> ryanlerch: like, it needs to modify iptables, and start new cpgroups
21:57:02 <linuxmodder> x3mboy,  best practices is  sudo docker then once launched  degrade perms to standard user
21:57:21 <jflory7_> x3mboy: I think something about a home NAS server would be a cool idea.
21:57:29 <ryanlerch> linuxmodder: as i said nevermind. i misunderstood your comment
21:57:30 <linuxmodder> so the sudo bit does what  puiterwijk  said then it goes back to un-privledged
21:57:48 <x3mboy> linuxmodder: what are you talking about? I didn't even know how to install docker
21:57:52 <linuxmodder> jflory7_,  that was the route the seafile was intending to go
21:58:12 <linuxmodder> cockpit can too for that matter
21:59:02 <jflory7_> x3mboy: Has your friend signed up to the mailing list yet? Doing the rounds to write a pitch would be best to see it come together. :)
21:59:10 <jflory7_> Sounds like it would be a good idea for an article, I'd like to know more.
21:59:33 <x3mboy> jflory7_: yes he did. He's Rino Roldan (villdalmine)
21:59:48 <jflory7_> Ah, okay, I might have missed his introduction if he posted.
22:00:10 <x3mboy> Yes, I answer him the presentation :D
22:00:12 <jflory7_> Point him over to this guide. He should be able to pen a pitch now. https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/
22:00:17 <x3mboy> Ready
22:00:21 <jflory7_> We can handle it from there. :)
22:00:52 <x3mboy> But i'm not sure his status of write in the wordpress, because he's out for a conference
22:01:46 <x3mboy> jflory7_: i will ask how is everything going with this
22:02:05 <jflory7_> If he wants to put a pitch in, he can do it anytime, there's not necessarily a deadline. Whenever he has the time would be great :)
22:02:12 <jflory7_> x3mboy++
22:02:14 <x3mboy> He's a Latam ambassador, even he was one of the ones who encourage me to do my ambassador application
22:02:32 <jflory7_> :)
22:02:38 <jflory7_> Looks like we're a few minutes over.
22:02:44 <jflory7_> Want to wrap up?
22:02:44 <x3mboy> I'm done
22:02:55 <jflory7_> I don't have anything else either.
22:03:03 <x3mboy> No, i was asking just if a tutorial/how-to article fit the magazine
22:03:15 <jflory7_> x3mboy: Oh! Yeah, definitely.
22:03:57 <jflory7_> I'll assume ryanlerch dived in. We can go ahead and wrap up here now.
22:04:07 <jflory7_> I have to get my bouncer back up and running...
22:04:11 <jflory7_> See you all next week!
22:04:13 <jflory7_> #endmeeting