21:00:05 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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21:00:06 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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21:00:08 <stickster> #topic Roll call
21:00:08 <stickster> .hello pfrields
21:00:09 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
21:01:27 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
21:01:28 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
21:01:33 <stickster> o/ Justin
21:01:37 <stickster> excited for Flock?
21:01:39 <jflory7> o/ Hiya!
21:01:43 <jflory7> Yes, to say the least!!
21:01:51 <jflory7> Really have to get started on the whole packing thing
21:02:33 <stickster> :-) word to the wise... don't overpack! And bring a bigger bag than you think you need if possible, so you can bring a few things home if you want
21:02:54 <jflory7> Very true, will keep that in mind. :) stickster++
21:03:06 * stickster looks for ryanlerch, JohnMH, cprofitt, or others who might show up
21:03:31 <stickster> Let's plunge ahead, lots to get through
21:03:35 <stickster> #chair jflory7
21:03:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 stickster
21:03:42 <jflory7> Sounds good to me.
21:03:43 <stickster> #topic Last week review
21:04:30 <stickster> #info Last full week was > 46K views, big increase from week before, back up to normal levels
21:04:33 <stickster> \o/
21:04:45 <jflory7> Awesome!
21:04:59 <stickster> We could really use one more article this week if possible, but I don't know if that's in the cards
21:05:17 <jflory7> Hmm, could do a pointer post to the "Getting started in QA" series on the CommBlog
21:05:22 <jflory7> Would be an easy enough of one to put together
21:05:28 <stickster> jflory7: Do you feel up to that?
21:05:33 <jflory7> I can swing that.
21:05:38 <stickster> jflory7++
21:06:16 <stickster> #action jflory7 will do a quick pointer article to Getting Started in QA series for tomorrow
21:06:22 <stickster> #topic Planning next week
21:06:51 <stickster> Let's hit this topic before we go through back articles... basically, it would be great if we could pre-schedule a couple things now to post for next week.
21:07:28 <jflory7> Definitely.
21:08:12 <jflory7> Looks like we have one HDYF we could keep saved
21:08:20 <stickster> I think we could figure on having a couple things ahead of time: 1. Report on mattdm's keynote (happens Tues a.m. CEST, could publish later in the morning); 2. Report on guest keynote (Wed a.m. CEST, could publish later that morning); 3. HDYF which cprofitt kindly lined up for us
21:08:29 <stickster> #nick cprofitt
21:08:33 <stickster> cprofitt++
21:08:33 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for cprofitt changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:08:50 <stickster> #nick lmacken
21:08:53 * jflory7 nods
21:09:06 <stickster> I'm still waiting on lmacken's finished draft for the Yubikey article
21:09:11 <jflory7> Those three targets sound reasonable.
21:10:04 <stickster> We will need to have someone assigned to transcribe/report. I'm ready to take one of the keynotes
21:10:28 <jflory7> I could tackle the Wednesday morning one, perhaps
21:10:45 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
21:10:46 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'ryan lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
21:10:52 <jflory7> ryanlerch: o/
21:11:01 <stickster> the article doesn't need to be a full transcription -- more like a summary of what the speaker covers. We can use a nice photo for the featured image
21:11:05 <stickster> #chair ryanlerch
21:11:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 ryanlerch stickster
21:11:12 * jflory7 nods
21:11:24 <stickster> #action stickster to cover mattdm keynote for Magazine
21:11:43 <stickster> #action jflory7 to cover guest (Programming Academy) keynote for Magazine
21:11:49 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah, coverage of the keynote will be great!
21:12:10 <ryanlerch> the recent post prepping for flock was awesome too!
21:12:12 <stickster> ryanlerch: Do you think if we did the text you could arrange to photograph (cell phone should be OK?) and create the image?
21:12:18 <stickster> er, images
21:12:31 <jflory7> I may have a nice camera on me too
21:12:33 * stickster bets that's like a 10 minute job
21:13:14 <ryanlerch> i wonder if there is somewhere where we can upload images we take, and i can edit them on the fly?
21:13:33 * ryanlerch is happy to be the image editor on demand
21:13:36 <jflory7> A Flock photo dump would be nice to have
21:13:59 <stickster> ryanlerch: I don't know what we could use that's free as in freedom
21:14:13 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah :(
21:14:21 * stickster would be fine if someone wants to just put their photos on Flickr or something like that
21:14:47 <ryanlerch> yeah, i think flickr is the best option -- they have the ability to mark them as CC i think
21:15:07 <jflory7> I probably would end up putting mine in my Dropbox - if there's a shared Flickr account or something for that, would be happy to send them there.
21:15:12 <ryanlerch> #action ryanlerch to make flock2016 flickr group
21:15:16 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
21:15:18 <stickster> Yay, thanks ryanlerch
21:15:28 <ryanlerch> jflory7: stickster:
21:15:47 <ryanlerch> i think we could also update the website with a few photos too as we go
21:16:22 <jflory7> I was definitely planning on putting some out on social media
21:16:31 <jflory7> Make our timeline a little more engaging during the week :)
21:16:40 <ryanlerch> jflory7: there is a website update for flocktofedora in the works -- with info about flock as it happens
21:16:59 <jflory7> I think I saw your fork for it, I should dig around for a second
21:17:09 <seseri> if you guys are using google anyway, what about a google photos album? If I might ask
21:17:39 * stickster shrugs, don't know the tradeoffs
21:18:32 <jflory7> Cool, found it: https://pagure.io/fork/ryanlerch/fedora-websites/c/7a5b3c9da58ab6509dfe16cee8ce27e638c3b38a
21:18:38 <ryanlerch> yeah, i think if we just go with flickr it will be ok
21:19:18 <stickster> OK, so it sounds like we can have at least 3, maybe 4 articles to go for next week with minimum fuss
21:19:26 <ryanlerch> stickster: awesome!
21:19:34 <stickster> That sounds good enough, and we can go back to normal agenda
21:19:48 <stickster> It might even be a bit short, because there aren't that many in the backlog to go through, for better or worse
21:19:54 <stickster> #topic Pending review
21:19:57 <ryanlerch> i think that is a good amount to balance "stuff is happening" vs "spamspamspamflocksmap"
21:20:07 <stickster> +1
21:20:37 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
21:20:42 <jflory7> Yep, and I'm editing the HDYF right now
21:20:45 <stickster> #info --- Luis Motta HDYF ---
21:20:50 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13805&preview=1&_ppp=7bb2e7157e
21:20:56 <stickster> awesome, thanks man!
21:21:03 <jflory7> Yeah, sorry, knew I had the editing lock on it :P
21:21:20 <stickster> I can't give any more cookies, but I'll save you a stroopwafel for when I get to Kraków ;-)
21:21:29 <jflory7> Woot!
21:21:53 <jflory7> Seems like we have a problem of always running out of cookies pretty quickly after the release here
21:22:03 * ryanlerch is bringing austrlaina candy too!
21:22:07 <stickster> YES!
21:22:25 <jflory7> Ooohhh
21:22:27 <ryanlerch> caramello koalas for everyone who has written for the magazine!
21:22:48 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
21:23:22 <jflory7> Want to schedule pre-Flock, for Monday?
21:23:30 <stickster> +1
21:23:39 <ryanlerch> wow, cprofitt just keeps them coming! these are amazing!
21:24:10 <jflory7> cprofitt++
21:24:38 <jflory7> Seems like there's a constant queue of people willing to do them, too :)
21:24:55 <seseri> cprofitt++
21:24:55 <zodbot> seseri: Karma for cprofitt changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:24:57 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1 for monday publish date from me
21:25:06 <ryanlerch> cprofitt++
21:25:20 <ryanlerch> hi seseri, BTW :)
21:25:30 <seseri> hiho
21:25:30 <stickster> #action jflory7 finish editing HDYF, schedule for Mon 2016-Aug-01 @ 8 UTC
21:25:38 <jflory7> Will have that done in a few short minutes
21:25:41 <stickster> #topic Drafts
21:25:42 <jflory7> seseri: o/
21:25:46 <seseri> \o
21:25:50 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
21:26:29 <stickster> one of these is Justin's from above (QA getting started), let's skip that
21:26:53 <stickster> #info --- Boot unlocking encryption ---
21:26:54 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13584&preview=1&_ppp=e8e2f2324c
21:27:06 <stickster> The author has submitted some changes based on my feedback, so this one is on me
21:27:11 <stickster> I could probably have it done for tomorrow!
21:28:25 <jflory7> Oh, awesome!
21:28:30 <ryanlerch> stickster: should we also get a SME review of this one too?
21:28:32 <jflory7> And maybe have it set for post-Flock? Or during?
21:28:34 <stickster> Oh wait, crap
21:28:40 <stickster> I won't be able to get it all done after this meeting
21:28:57 <stickster> jflory7: Yeah -- we should set this up for e.g. Friday Aug 5 or Monday Aug 8
21:29:03 <stickster> *That* I can do
21:29:23 <jflory7> I'd be +1 for either. Friday sounds nice. So we'd have four articles for all of next week.
21:29:37 <stickster> I don't know if there's a SME for this, but puiterwijk had looked at it before and I think he agreed it should work in principle
21:30:07 * stickster wants to also leave room in case e.g. mattdm wants to do a wrap-up or something for us on Friday, but chances may not be high for that since I know he'll be very busy
21:30:13 * puiterwijk reads back to see what I promised this time around
21:30:21 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1 that is pretty much the idea i had :)
21:30:28 <stickster> puiterwijk: oh nothing, I just invoked your name
21:30:33 <puiterwijk> Okay, no worries
21:30:43 <stickster> we should be OK though
21:30:44 <jflory7> stickster: If we have it ready next week, we could check in with him during Flock and see what he wants to do, and schedule based on that
21:31:08 <ryanlerch> stickster: more just a sanity check to check we arent instructing people to do something really insecure :)
21:31:09 <stickster> #action stickster finish editing this boot encryption article, and plan for NLT Monday 2016-Aug-08 publication
21:31:15 <stickster> ryanlerch: right, exactly
21:31:32 <stickster> ryanlerch: It shouldn't be -- it's simply using dropbear for a light SSH server, and that's a pretty trusted system
21:32:19 <stickster> #info --- Container article #2, Docker ---
21:32:24 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13797&preview=1&_ppp=d975e8501b
21:32:30 <stickster> Is JohnMH around?
21:33:13 <stickster> wait, that's not his
21:33:38 <stickster> This is mark_otaris
21:34:26 <jflory7> stickster: They're co-authors.
21:34:34 <jflory7> As far as I can remember, they're tackling it together.
21:34:58 <puiterwijk> stickster: note that the remote unlock article still uses copr. Might be useful to add a warning, since we have no control or checks over those repos?
21:35:02 <stickster> It seems like this one is still stuck
21:35:21 <stickster> puiterwijk: I did -- see "Caveat emptor" section
21:35:43 <stickster> however, I need to set that off with another section heading after
21:36:07 <puiterwijk> stickster: right. I was thinking it might be useful to do that right above the place where you enable the copr repo..
21:36:39 <puiterwijk> since currently there's still a bunch of text between that and the actual copr command
21:36:58 <stickster> puiterwijk: good point
21:37:01 <stickster> will do!
21:37:58 <stickster> done
21:38:16 <stickster> OK, since no work from John or Mark, assume the containers article is in limbo
21:38:26 <stickster> we'll look at this after Flock.
21:38:47 <stickster> ryanlerch: jflory7: might be a good point for us to remember for "series" articles -- make sure we have two in hand before starting the series :-)
21:39:03 <stickster> #topic Pitches
21:39:06 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
21:39:28 <stickster> skipping LVM article, no changes since last week (no content).
21:39:29 <jflory7> stickster: +1.
21:39:44 <stickster> #info Yubikey article -- lmacken is drafting this and I expect it very soon
21:40:09 <stickster> #info How to fix SELinux errors
21:40:28 <stickster> this is a pitch I just put in this morning. Do you guys remember Natalie from the list?
21:40:50 <jflory7> Yep!
21:41:29 <stickster> well, she was going to reach out to SELinux guys to see if they would write this one. Doesn't need to be too long to be effective. Basically, I want this one to answer a commonly searched question, and elevate the Magazine to near the top of the search results ;-)
21:41:35 <ryanlerch> natalie did the flock preview post, right?
21:41:39 <stickster> ryanlerch: yes!
21:42:06 <ryanlerch> stickster: i also pinged major off list about doing a "how to disable SELinux" post
21:42:08 <stickster> Part 2 of stickster's clever plan: create another article called "How to disable SELinux," and point it at this article, reminding people *not* to do that ;-)
21:42:57 <stickster> ryanlerch: maybe that could be a better article then, if Major did it -- but in the end, would be good to link together so we are clearly telling people not to disable -- rather, use permissive, and use the first article to know how to proceed with making their own rules
21:43:04 <stickster> or rather, policy modules
21:43:10 <jflory7> stickster: That's awesome! Would be cool to see that happen. nardasev++
21:43:20 <puiterwijk> Major + writing "how to disable SELinux"?... My mind can't comprehend that :)_
21:43:30 <stickster> there must be a trick to it :-)
21:43:38 <jflory7> stickster++ I love the idea, pull them in and convince them otherwise, heheh
21:43:42 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: CLICKBAIT!
21:43:47 <stickster> hee hee
21:44:05 <ryanlerch> maybe if we get dan to co-author :)
21:44:09 * puiterwijk might put a filter over magazine, disabling any page with the words "disable" and "selinux" in the same article... :D
21:44:11 <ryanlerch> i would def click on it
21:44:25 <stickster> puiterwijk: don't you dare! ;-D
21:44:39 <stickster> OK, that's where we are on pitches.
21:44:43 <puiterwijk> stickster: If you didn't figure it out yet, I'm just making jokes.  :)
21:44:51 <stickster> of course! i knew that ;-)
21:44:55 <puiterwijk> great :)
21:44:59 <jflory7> fwiw Luis Motta HDYF scheduled for Monday
21:45:11 <ryanlerch> jflory7++
21:45:13 <stickster> #action stickster work with nardasev on SELinux article, maybe for ~2 weeks out
21:45:31 <stickster> #action ryanlerch pursue majorhayden for "disabling" (har har) article, to publish at the same time
21:45:35 <ryanlerch> #action ryanlerch to followup with major on similar article
21:45:40 <ryanlerch> #undo
21:45:40 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by ryanlerch at 21:45:35 : ryanlerch to followup with major on similar article
21:46:04 <stickster> I'm going to skip "starter pitches" because those are only there to build up a queue, not to use up meeting time
21:46:14 <stickster> #topic All other business (open floor!)
21:46:26 <ryanlerch> stickster: unless there is a new writer here, that is looking for a post!
21:46:47 <stickster> that's what I'm hoping.  Do we have anyone here looking for an easy writing assignment?
21:47:30 <ryanlerch> i have an AOB item too!
21:48:32 <stickster> go!
21:49:05 <ryanlerch> I am looking to pass the reigns of "Chief Editor" of the magazine on.
21:49:25 <ryanlerch> i still intend to contribute to the magazine though
21:50:06 <ryanlerch> and i would like to nominate jflory7 as the new chief editor (from about the 20th of August onwards)
21:50:08 <stickster> DUN DUN DUN
21:50:37 <jflory7> I'd be happy to accept :)
21:51:02 <stickster> WOW! This is great. jflory7, I can't think of anyone better to be the next chief.
21:51:10 <ryanlerch> obviously, a +1 from me
21:51:28 <stickster> +100
21:51:42 <puiterwijk> +1 (if I have a vote)
21:51:44 <stickster> FWIW, I'm happy to keep running meetings jflory7, unless you are looking to take them over. I figure it's a good way for me to help, but I want whatever makes it work best for you
21:51:48 <stickster> sure puiterwijk!
21:51:51 <jflory7> Thanks guys :)
21:51:53 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: of couuse you have a vote!
21:52:08 <jflory7> stickster: I have no preference, the way things work now is fine by me!
21:52:10 <jflory7> puiterwijk++
21:52:26 <stickster> cool, I'll keep on with it then, and we've done well handing the baton where needed
21:52:47 <jflory7> Yep! All sounds good to me.
21:53:18 <stickster> jflory7: ryanlerch: What do you guys think about an "Editors' Note" article post-Flock to announce the new editor in chief? With a photo of the two of you together at Flock, that would be AWESOME
21:53:36 <stickster> We can post it on or about the 20th, for that matter
21:53:45 <ryanlerch> stickster +1
21:54:07 <jflory7> stickster: That would be really awesome :)
21:54:08 <stickster> cool, we'll make that happen
21:54:13 <jflory7> I also have one AOB item after this one!
21:54:16 <stickster> I have an AOB too
21:54:18 <stickster> go ahead jflory7
21:54:22 <jflory7> Sure–
21:55:33 <jflory7> So over the summer, I've been working on my Google Summer of Code project proposal to help bring more automation to the WordPress platforms in Fedora Infra. Over the course of the next month, we're hoping to bring my changes into Infra for the CommBlog + Magazine and set them up with Ansible for installs / upgrades.
21:55:37 <stickster> #agreed jflory7 will take over editor-in-chief position as of ~2016-Aug-20
21:56:14 <ryanlerch> 0_0 this is amazing!
21:56:20 <jflory7> It's in the final phases now, but the next step should be towards final testing, and probably will work with the Community Blog first, followed by the Magazine.
21:56:37 <jflory7> puiterwijk is also my mentor and is helping guide me on this. :)
21:56:58 <stickster> \o/
21:57:02 <puiterwijk> Yep. Totally not trying to lessen my own work here! :-) For which, many thanks to jflory7
21:57:35 <stickster> nice work guys
21:57:36 <stickster> puiterwijk++
21:57:36 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for puiterwijk changed to 29 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:57:52 <stickster> jflory7: anything further on this?
21:58:00 <puiterwijk> \o/ karma from stickster again :D
21:58:02 <jflory7> stickster: Oh, nope, eof!
21:58:17 <seseri> puiterwijk++
21:58:17 <zodbot> seseri: Karma for puiterwijk changed to 30 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:58:20 <seseri> even more!
21:58:25 <puiterwijk> Hah, thanks.
21:58:34 <stickster> OK, my AOB: I am doing a Flock talk on the Magazine. I shared the outline with jflory7 and ryanlerch for comment. If you have time, feel free. If not, I feel pretty good about it as-is :-)
21:58:56 <stickster> <eof>
21:59:02 <stickster> Anything else?
21:59:03 <jflory7> Okay, cool, I'll try to take a look tonight after I wrap up on the QA series pointer!
21:59:15 <jflory7> Nothing else from me.
21:59:44 <stickster> OK then, we're outtie
21:59:47 <stickster> #endmeeting