20:59:32 <jflory7> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board - 2016 Oct. 6
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20:59:33 <jflory7> #meetingname magazine
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20:59:37 <jflory7> #topic Roll call
20:59:58 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
20:59:59 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
21:00:14 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
21:00:15 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
21:00:49 <jflory7> #chair ryanlerch
21:00:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 ryanlerch
21:00:50 <jflory7> o/
21:01:00 <ryanlerch> morning jflory!
21:01:28 <x3mboy> .hello x3mboy
21:01:30 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
21:01:31 <jflory7> Good afternoon! :)
21:01:33 <jflory7> #chair x3mboy
21:01:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 ryanlerch x3mboy
21:01:35 <jflory7> x3mboy: o/
21:01:42 <x3mboy> jflory7, o/
21:03:08 <ryanlerch> morning x3mboy
21:03:08 <jflory7> I think we can go ahead and get this show on the road.
21:03:19 <ryanlerch> jflory7: +1
21:03:21 <jflory7> #topic Last week in review
21:03:56 <jflory7> #info Last week's total views: 45,189 (down ~9% from previous week)
21:04:43 <ryanlerch> jflory7: still nothing to be worried about thoough IMHO
21:05:01 <jflory7> #info Last wee's top articles: What's new in PostgreSQL 9.5, 2,910 views; New Firefox 49 features in Fedora, 2,555 views; Node.js 6.x LTS coming to EPEL 7, 2,378 views
21:05:06 <ryanlerch> we had the GNOME one last week which was unexpectedly large
21:05:16 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Agreed. I think it's a marginal shift. Plus, I think next week will skew again as well.
21:05:32 <ryanlerch> jflory7: yeah, with beta!
21:05:46 <jflory7> #info Total hits this month so far: 31,927 (September: 184,396)
21:06:35 <jflory7> Worth noting that September was also on the upward trend from August (which had a sharp decline due to following the month of a release *and* missing people from Flock).
21:06:56 <jflory7> #topic Pending review
21:07:54 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
21:08:24 <jflory7> #info === "How to remotely unlock your Fedora file system" ===
21:08:27 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14276&preview=1&_ppp=9824fef5c7
21:08:41 <jflory7> stickster was going to follow up with the author on this one
21:08:52 <jflory7> I'm a little behind on the list, going to take a quick peek if anything was discussed there.
21:09:34 <jflory7> Hmm, not seeing anything there.
21:09:48 <jflory7> I'll give an action for follow-up on this one, or else we'll move to the holding pen.
21:09:51 <jflory7> #nick stickster
21:09:54 <ryanlerch> it also needs a featured image
21:10:41 <ryanlerch> #action ryanlerch to create featued image (and ticket) for remote unlock article
21:11:01 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Our concerns with this one I think were whether we wanted to publish it - looking through the article, I do see a lot of comments which I think Paul probably left.
21:11:15 <jflory7> There's a lot of technical caveats here that will need to be reviewed.
21:11:15 <ryanlerch> #undo
21:11:15 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by ryanlerch at 21:10:41 : ryanlerch to create featued image (and ticket) for remote unlock article
21:11:35 <ryanlerch> jflory7: okies, so hold off the featured image then?
21:11:52 <jflory7> #action stickster Follow up with the "unlock your Fedora file system" article with author; if no updates or article cannot be updated, move to holding pen / trash
21:12:09 <jflory7> ryanlerch: I think for now, it's probably best to hold off. I do have a featured image I could use your help with. :)
21:12:22 <ryanlerch> jflory7: +1 :D
21:12:23 <x3mboy> It's not a bad article, but it needs a lot of checking
21:12:36 <jflory7> #info === "What is GRUB2 Boot Loader In Fedora" ===
21:12:37 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14701&preview=1&_ppp=aae05f2d29
21:12:53 <ryanlerch> x3mboy: yeah, i think the checking on that one is super importatn
21:13:00 <jflory7> #info jflory7 missed the mark and did not get this one scheduled for Wednesday as we had planned last week
21:13:28 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Review, edit, schedule condensed version of GRUB article based on feedback in last week's meeting (aiming for Monday, Oct. 10)
21:13:42 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Think you would want to do the featured image here for this one?
21:13:55 <ryanlerch> jflory7: no worries! this is a complex one IMHO
21:14:07 <ryanlerch> jflory happy to create the ticket, and do the image
21:14:36 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Agreed. Last week, we had agreed to condense the article by removing some of the sticky dual-boot advice at the bottom and keep it towards a simple introduction to GRUB.
21:15:06 <jflory7> The final version should be much more succinct and a little less heavy.
21:15:20 <jflory7> I'll be sure to keep up with this action this time...
21:15:50 <jflory7> #action ryanlerch Create featured image for "What is the GRUB2 bootloader?" article for a Monday publication
21:16:03 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora: How to Install FreeOrion" ===
21:16:05 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14796&preview=1&_ppp=1e7d73f56a
21:16:16 <jflory7> This is a new article by cprofitt that I had not yet had a chance to review.
21:16:21 * jflory7 gives a quick read
21:16:45 <x3mboy> I like this one, I talk with cprofitt a little bit about it
21:16:56 <ryanlerch> oh! i used to do a series (before we had series) -- called "friday fun"
21:17:06 <x3mboy> I think gaming are always welcome
21:18:23 <ryanlerch> jflory7: this one looks good, might just need to check if it works without third party repo
21:18:35 <jflory7> Seems short and sweet. Plenty of screenshots.
21:18:43 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Ahh, nice thinking. Let me try now...
21:19:14 <jflory7> Yep, everything seems to be in Fedora official repositories
21:19:43 <x3mboy> Cool!
21:19:50 <ryanlerch> jflory7: awesome!
21:19:58 <jflory7> We might want a featured image that fits a little more stylistically with our other images.
21:20:07 <ryanlerch> jflory7: i can do that!
21:20:10 <ryanlerch> :)
21:20:43 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Awesome, sounds good. Do you think you also want to handle the editing for this one, maybe for another Friday Fun post on Oct. 14?
21:21:05 <jflory7> Doesn't have to be part of an explicit series this time, but it's a catchy alliteration
21:22:04 <ryanlerch> jflory7: haha, we can lose the catchphrase if we want, its something i made up *ages* ago
21:22:33 <jflory7> Either way seems fine to me. :) If you're up for it, we can action this one to you for Friday.
21:22:43 <ryanlerch> jflory7: +1
21:22:49 <x3mboy> +1
21:23:22 <jflory7> #action ryanlerch Review, edit, create featured image, and schedule "Fedora: How to Install FreeOrion" for a publication on Friday, October 14, 2016
21:24:18 <x3mboy> I just didn't know if is ok the "Fedora:" as part of the post's title
21:24:21 <jflory7> Okay, that's all the pending review articles!
21:24:40 <x3mboy> It could be just "How to install FreeOrion"
21:24:42 <jflory7> x3mboy: I think it would make sense to rearrange, "How to install FreeOrion on Fedora"
21:24:56 <x3mboy> jflory7, +1
21:25:09 <jflory7> #info Title change to "How to install FreeOrion on Fedora"
21:25:40 <jflory7> Okay, that's all pending review articles!
21:26:04 <jflory7> #topic Drafts
21:26:35 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
21:26:47 <x3mboy> Are there 12 drafts???
21:26:48 <x3mboy> Wow!
21:27:29 <jflory7> Yeah, I'm looking through to make sure we cover ones that are up to date - I think some of these can probably be moved to holding pen.
21:28:20 <jflory7> #info === "Raspberry Pi (2 and 3) support coming to Fedora 25 Beta!" ===
21:28:25 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14574&preview=1&_ppp=afa93aad85
21:28:42 * jflory7 wonders if pbrobinson happens to be around
21:29:16 <jflory7> This article appears to be done, but I recall there being a moment we were waiting for to publish this.
21:29:28 <jflory7> I don't remember when that milestone or moment was.
21:29:47 <ryanlerch> jflory7: i can follow up on this one
21:29:55 <jflory7> But it mentions "just in time for Beta", so I assume... soon. :)
21:30:08 <jflory7> This would be a *great* one to ride the coattails on the Beta announcement Tuesday
21:30:14 <jflory7> Or space it out a day for Wednesday
21:30:20 <jflory7> Both will be pretty landmark news
21:30:27 <ryanlerch> jflory7: when is the beta release stated for?
21:30:33 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Next Tuesday! :)
21:30:35 * ryanlerch cant remmeber the actual date
21:30:50 <jflory7> bkp / bprofitt is leading on the release announcement, so I hope to coordinate with him on getting that ported to the Magazine too.
21:31:02 <ryanlerch> jflory7: awesome!
21:31:15 <x3mboy> I found the minutes, it was wating to be finished
21:31:15 <jflory7> ryanlerch: If you could follow up on this one and figure out when pbrobinson was hoping to publish, I would *love* to do this next Wednesday, right after the Beta.
21:31:26 <jflory7> This will definitely be big news within itself.
21:31:42 <ryanlerch> jflory7: okies! will check with probinson when he wakes up
21:32:23 <jflory7> #action ryanlerch Check in with pbrobinson on F25 Beta + Raspberry Pi support article for a possible publication of Wednesday, Oct. 12, 2016
21:32:27 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
21:32:45 <jflory7> #info === "C99 feature support in GCC on Fedora Linux" ===
21:32:50 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14646&preview=1&_ppp=441960ca68
21:32:53 * jflory7 thinks this one is new
21:33:09 <x3mboy> This one never was a Pitch
21:33:10 <x3mboy> :S
21:33:48 <jflory7> No worries, it happens.
21:33:52 * jflory7 is reading through
21:35:23 <jflory7> One question I'm asking is "why?" Not sure if there is a new update in Fedora that supports C99?
21:35:29 <jflory7> Seems like a pretty major update if so.
21:36:27 <jflory7> I'd be curious to know a little more about what is motivating this article (e.g. an explanation of a new update / how to install it in Fedora) and maybe a brief note about any backwards compatibility issues.
21:36:27 <ryanlerch> jflory7: yeah, the why is missing IMHO too
21:37:14 <jflory7> #idea Why is C99 important - is there a new update? An explanation / summary of any big news would be helpful here
21:37:33 <jflory7> #idea Information on how to install it in Fedora would also be helpful
21:37:48 <jflory7> #idea Statement on any notes for backwards compatibility would be also be good to include
21:38:51 <jflory7> Anything else either of you can think of for helpful feedback on this one, from a technical standpoint?
21:39:09 <x3mboy> +1
21:39:30 <x3mboy> Sorry, i have delay, +1 to the missing why
21:40:08 <ryanlerch> +1 for me on those points jflory7
21:40:20 <jflory7> Okay, cool. I can follow up with the author on this.
21:40:42 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Follow up with shrirang on feedback for C99 article discussed during meeting
21:41:44 <jflory7> #info === "Getting started with WebVR on Fedora" still under edits by pfrields ===
21:42:34 * jflory7 isn't sure of any other drafts ready for review...
21:43:23 <x3mboy> The python one?
21:43:33 * jflory7 is moving some articles around to different categories
21:43:39 <jflory7> x3mboy: Ooh, was that one ready?
21:43:55 <jflory7> #info === "Starting with Python in Fedora" ===
21:43:56 <x3mboy> I don't know, I'm asking
21:44:02 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14577&preview=1&_ppp=46c60b62ba
21:44:12 <jflory7> I'm also looking through the list, I see some feedback on this one here
21:45:24 <jflory7> I think Sylvia was looking for some more help on this one for going a little deeper with some tools / getting a workspace set up
21:45:32 <jflory7> As well as maybe a few screenshots
21:45:52 <x3mboy> I can do that
21:46:09 <x3mboy> Python for starters is kind of my thing
21:46:23 <jflory7> x3mboy++ Awesome!
21:46:35 <ryanlerch> x3mboy++
21:47:07 <jflory7> #idea Coverage of more specific tools for newcomers to Python in Fedora (What IDEs? What utilities / packages are helpful? etc.)
21:47:33 <jflory7> #idea Basic explanation of how to get started with a new Python project (what do I do first, how do I get my environment working, etc.)
21:48:02 <jflory7> #action x3mboy Assist on adding additional content to the "Starting with Python in Fedora" article for a later publication
21:48:10 <jflory7> Perfect.
21:48:15 <ryanlerch> jflory7: i can do the featured image too
21:48:21 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
21:48:28 <ryanlerch> i think we may already have a fedora hearts python one
21:48:34 <ryanlerch> which we can reuse
21:48:38 <jflory7> #action ryanlerch Create / recycle featured image for "Starting with Python in Fedora" article
21:48:54 <ryanlerch> either way, i'll investigate / and or implement
21:49:03 * jflory7 nods
21:49:07 <jflory7> Sounds good, thanks ryanlerch!
21:50:33 <jflory7> #info === "Install the Atom Text Editor on Fedora" ===
21:50:37 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14525&preview=1&_ppp=c0807f5870
21:50:53 <jflory7> I think someone was going to contact the original author on this one, but we did not ever hear a response back?
21:51:05 <jflory7> I think this could be a good one for a new writer to try finishing.
21:51:35 <x3mboy> Yeap, it should be an easy one
21:52:02 <jflory7> For now, I think I'm going to move this one to the holding pen since it was last touched on Sept. 9, but I will follow-up with a mailing list post opening up the call for contribution.
21:52:04 <jflory7> Sound good?
21:53:06 <ryanlerch> jflory7++
21:53:26 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Move Atom article to holding pen / starter pitches, put out call for writers on the mailing list to finish this one
21:53:28 <x3mboy> +1
21:53:50 <jflory7> Okay, we're about out of time, so going to switch to Open Floor for some quick coverage of other business:
21:53:53 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor
21:54:10 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Reach out to bprofitt / bkp about syndicating Beta release announcement to Magazine for next Tuesday
21:54:12 <ryanlerch> jflory7: my only open floor thing was the beta coverage
21:54:23 <ryanlerch> but you are all over it
21:54:26 <ryanlerch> jflory7++
21:54:27 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Follow up with devyani7 on "What is Fedora Hubs?" article
21:54:28 <x3mboy> I had a point here, comming from Marketing meeting
21:54:42 <jflory7> ryanlerch: I'm happy to say that the F25 beta announcement is mostly already done. :)
21:54:56 <jflory7> : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F25_Beta_release_announcement
21:55:18 <jflory7> bkp++ bkp++ bkp++ bkp++ bkp++
21:55:27 <ryanlerch> bkp++
21:55:27 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for bproffit changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:55:46 <jflory7> In any case, I'm confident we will have a copy ready for the Magazine
21:56:02 <x3mboy> There are 3 tickets/issues in marketing's Pagure (239, 233 and 208) that belongs to the magazine
21:57:05 <jflory7> x3mboy: Ah, yeah. I guess it could make sense for the Magazine to have its own Pagure for ticket tracking, but I don't know how much traffic it would really get. But I also see the Magazine being a relevant sub-sub-project of Marketing since it is, more or less, the voice of the Fedora Project to the community of users and developers.
21:57:28 <jflory7> I do feel like it would be alright for the Magazine to remain with the Marketing Pagure in this case, but that's my take on it.
21:57:35 <x3mboy> These one should be moved to the magazine tool (i'm not sure if magazine team have pagure or trac or any) or we should stay using Marketing one
21:57:37 <ryanlerch> jflory7: and we also have the theme too for tracking issues
21:57:55 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Right. We have the one for images and the one for the theme.
21:57:59 <x3mboy> Can we make a cross ML discussion about it, no?
21:58:18 <jflory7> x3mboy: I'm not opposed to having a wider discussion on that - would you want to start the discussion?
21:58:29 <x3mboy> Yeah!
21:59:17 <jflory7> Awesome!
21:59:55 <x3mboy> I need to run guys
22:00:01 <jflory7> #action x3mboy Open discussion about if it's confusing for the Magazine to use the Marketing Pagure for issue tracking (for things not related to Magazine theme and featured images)
22:00:06 <jflory7> We're just wrapping up here too. :)
22:00:09 <jflory7> Right on time.
22:00:16 <x3mboy> Ok
22:00:18 <jflory7> I think we can go ahead and close out. Thanks for coming out tonight, x3mboy and ryanlerch!
22:00:24 <x3mboy> See ya!
22:00:26 <jflory7> Catch you both around. :)
22:00:27 <jflory7> #endmeeting