22:00:12 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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22:00:18 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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22:00:21 <stickster> #topic Roll call
22:00:25 <stickster> .hello pfrields
22:00:26 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
22:00:49 <sub_pop> .hello linkdupont
22:00:50 <zodbot> sub_pop: linkdupont 'Link Dupont' <link@sub-pop.net>
22:02:29 <stickster> o/ sub_pop
22:02:41 <sub_pop> hello hello
22:02:51 <stickster> sub_pop: I don't see any other editors here... ryanlerch is out on PTO, no idea where jflory7's at
22:03:34 <jwf> .hello jflory7
22:03:35 <zodbot> jwf: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
22:04:19 <stickster> oh!!! lol
22:04:23 <stickster> #chair jwf
22:04:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf stickster
22:04:29 <stickster> #chair sub_pop
22:04:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf stickster sub_pop
22:04:37 <stickster> I had no idea, and I just DM'd you on Twitter :-D
22:04:57 <stickster> Cool
22:05:01 <stickster> #topic Review last week
22:05:21 <stickster> jwf: I have to run at :45 for an early gig tonight
22:05:22 * jwf wonders if zodbot saw his message, or if his client is just lagging considerably
22:05:41 <sub_pop> justin's secret identity
22:05:50 <stickster> jwf: we got your name back and know who you are... are you seeing this?
22:06:27 <stickster> #info 54.5K views last week, good stats -- should be higher this week for more articles, hopefully
22:06:58 <stickster> #topic Pending Review
22:07:03 <jwf> Whoa, just got flooded with messages! Had about a three minute delay there…
22:07:08 <stickster> ha
22:07:12 <jwf> Yeah, no qualms with speeding through to the :45 mark, let's go :)
22:07:19 <stickster> jwf: Are you relatively back on the case this week?
22:07:35 <stickster> #info nothing in Pending Review this week
22:07:43 <stickster> #topic Drafts
22:07:52 <jwf> stickster: Yes, I am. :) Finally settled back in.
22:07:54 <stickster> #info https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
22:08:04 <jwf> Still have some mailing list catching up to do, but will make progress on it
22:08:53 <stickster> #info None of the drafts have moved since last week -- x3mboy, pravins, and whoever 'evilissimo' is :-)
22:09:06 <stickster> Oh wait, there is one
22:09:25 <stickster> #info stickster has a 'How to install WordPress' draft started, but it needs more work and won't be done in time for 8 UTC tomorrow
22:10:06 <jwf> sub_pop: tl;dr, this is the IRC nick I always wanted, but there was an old, inactive NickServ registration for it - over the weekend, I asked in #freenode if I could have it an OP gave it to me. Thus the nick change. It's permanent change. :)
22:10:08 * jwf nods to stickster
22:10:09 <stickster> #info sub_pop provided an *awesome* taskwarrior post to start off this week
22:10:19 <jwf> I did see that one :)
22:10:19 <stickster> jwf: oh cool, I'll remember this then :-)
22:10:20 <jwf> sub_pop++
22:10:27 <stickster> sub_pop++
22:10:27 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for linkdupont changed to 3 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
22:10:31 <stickster> hm
22:11:16 <stickster> If *anyone* has an idea for a "quick hit" article for tomorrow, that would be awesome
22:11:18 * jwf is flipping through some of the starter pitches for quick ideas for something to spin up in time for tomorrow
22:12:03 <stickster> jwf: that would be great... I wrote/edited 5 out of the 6 articles this week and although I had *ZERO* qualms about doing so :-) I'm a bit tapped out in terms of time atm
22:12:18 <stickster> oops, 6 articles in the *past two weeks*
22:12:26 <jwf> Yeah, understandable – I'll be glad to take some of that load back off of you now
22:12:49 <stickster> jwf: Hey, one thing we could try, would be to reprint an old article tomorrow
22:12:56 <jwf> We should also see about doing an open call on the mailing list with one of the starter pitches too, to attract potential writers. It's had about a 50/50 success rate in the past.
22:12:59 <stickster> We've done it before, should I take a look for something older?
22:13:15 <sub_pop> did we get anywhere with wine 2.0?
22:13:28 <jwf> stickster: Since I'm in a later time zone now, I'm not as able to spin something up the night before anymore, so I'm +1 to recycling an older article for the time being.
22:14:28 <stickster> jwf: how about this one? https://fedoramagazine.org/saving-laptop-power-with-powertop/
22:15:01 <jwf> stickster: Yeah, that was a high-performing one. We didn't repeat it during the holiday season in December / January, right?
22:15:02 <stickster> I'm not set on it being something I wrote, but it *should* be something "howto" that's aged well, and I came across that one in a sea of "news about Fedora 22/23" articles
22:15:07 <stickster> No, we didn't
22:15:21 <stickster> Jun 11, 2015
22:15:25 <jwf> Okay, then I have no qualms. +1 to repeating this one in the meanwhile. :)
22:15:33 <stickster> So it's almost two years old, but it's still accurate AFAICT from reading
22:15:54 * jwf successfully used it at least a year after it was originally published
22:16:00 <stickster> *nod
22:16:22 <sub_pop> that's great little utility
22:16:26 <stickster> we're on PowerTop 2.8 now (vs. 2.7) but the display hasn't changed at all. Everything in the article appears correct still.
22:16:41 <stickster> +/-1 to flip to tomorrow?
22:17:19 <jwf> +1 from me
22:17:21 <sub_pop> +1 for sure
22:17:35 <stickster> #agreed flip powertop article to reprint 2017-Feb-17
22:17:40 <stickster> done
22:18:30 <stickster> jwf: hey, here's something nice... it stays public at the same URL even when rescheduled for tomorrow ;-)
22:18:33 <stickster> no loss of googlejuice
22:18:44 <stickster> \o/ thank you WordPress gods
22:18:49 <jwf> Excellent. :)
22:18:55 <jwf> That's definitely handy.
22:19:03 <stickster> jwf: that buys us some time :-)
22:19:09 <jwf> From the existing content, do we have anything in drafts that was close to being ready? Or any secret full-blown articles in pitches?
22:19:22 <stickster> jwf: I can finish WordPress article this weekend for sure, no problem
22:19:32 <stickster> So consider that publishable next week whenever you want it
22:19:50 <stickster> #action stickster finish WordPress install howto article this weekend, with image
22:20:05 <x3mboy> .hello x3mboy
22:20:06 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
22:20:08 <jwf> Okay, great. That would probably be better for Monday. I'm on the hook for sitting down to write the Matrix / Riot how-to I've wanted to write for some time.
22:20:09 <x3mboy> Sorry, i'm late
22:20:20 <jwf> I really want to try to get that prepped in time for Friday
22:20:26 * jwf waves to x3mboy
22:20:29 <jwf> #chair x3mboy
22:20:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf stickster sub_pop x3mboy
22:20:38 <stickster> Hey x3mboy, you have a draft waiting as a matter of fact, on mindmaps... last we talked I think you were trying to finish that last weekend, any news?
22:21:10 <x3mboy> Yes,I will upload the final version for revision tomorrow morning
22:21:24 <stickster> x3mboy: please! I'll happily look at it this weekend for editing
22:21:34 <x3mboy> stickster, count on it
22:21:39 <jwf> We could maybe try to factor that in for a Wednesday publication date then.
22:21:55 <stickster> #action x3mboy submit finished draft for mindmapping article Friday 2017-Feb-17 for editing
22:22:07 <stickster> x3mboy: sounds like we're counting on you now :-~)
22:23:02 <stickster> jwf: I wouldn't count on seeing ibus or ovirt articles right away for the moment, but maybe you could reach out to authors tomorrow?
22:23:36 <jwf> Yeah, that's doable. I'll write up an action for both
22:23:42 <stickster> cool
22:24:00 <jwf> #action jwf Reach out to pravins about the status of his draft, "IBus typing booster – The Gateway of efficient and effective typing"
22:24:19 <jwf> #action jwf Reach out to evilissimo about the status of their draft, "Configuring Fedora Cloud Base Image on oVirt with cloud-init"
22:24:26 <stickster> jwf: Hey, there's something in Pitch which should really be in Draft, the i3 article
22:24:32 * jwf copy+pastes to Taskwarrior :P
22:24:37 <stickster> heh
22:24:40 <sub_pop> ^_^
22:24:56 <stickster> #info i3 window manager
22:24:59 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=16348&preview=1&_ppp=e13e5a0611
22:25:17 <stickster> This is at least in editable shape... jwf, maybe just the thing to round out next week?
22:25:18 <jwf> Hmmm…
22:25:23 <jwf> Looks similar to this one, though: https://fedoramagazine.org/getting-started-i3-window-manager/
22:25:39 <sub_pop> yea, it's very similiar
22:25:47 <jwf> I'd rather see it as an expansion to the original article we published
22:26:04 <jwf> "Extending your i3 experience"
22:26:15 <jwf> Or maybe just focusing in on a specific tool or small feature
22:26:24 <x3mboy> !
22:26:31 <jwf> x3mboy: Sure, go for it!
22:26:41 <x3mboy> The article from mythcat was already discussed? The one about inkscape
22:26:50 <stickster> yeah, I hadn't even remembered the other i3 article!
22:27:00 <stickster> jwf: +1 on extending i3, and link back to the earlier artticle
22:27:11 <jwf> Want me to contact the author there as well?
22:27:26 <stickster> jwf: +1
22:27:33 <stickster> email-o-thon
22:27:48 <x3mboy> One can complement the other
22:27:52 <x3mboy> Or extend
22:27:54 <stickster> x3mboy: agreed
22:28:03 <jwf> #action jwf Reach out to ankitrgadiya about reworking the focus of their draft, "Try out i3 Window Manager"
22:28:07 <x3mboy> Focusing less in installing, and more in advanced configuration
22:28:23 <x3mboy> And change the title, because it will be deeper
22:28:25 <stickster> #agreed new i3 article should concentrate on extending/customizing i3, link back to earlier i3 intro article
22:28:28 <x3mboy> Link the first one
22:28:30 * jwf nods
22:28:42 <x3mboy> Sorry, I was overthinking
22:28:43 <stickster> Shall we look at pitches now?
22:29:00 <jwf> Yeah, I think we can switch gears given the time constraint!
22:29:03 <stickster> #topic Pitches
22:29:05 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
22:29:15 <stickster> #info --- inkscape 0.92 ---
22:29:27 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=16460&preview=1&_ppp=7464cbeea3
22:29:30 <x3mboy> That's the one
22:29:50 <x3mboy> It's a good article, but I'm concerned about the previuos inkscape series
22:29:50 <stickster> I'm hesitant to go into this one too far... I wrote to the list just a little while ago about it... a bit of a mess scope-wise
22:30:02 <jwf> Are there any features in here specific to 0.92?
22:30:13 <jwf> Yeah, same thoughts, stickster
22:30:37 <stickster> jwf: no, it doesn't talk about any new features in 0.92 (if that was indeed the plan)
22:31:07 <sub_pop> related posts shows 4 other inkscape articles already
22:31:26 <jwf> Hmmm… then I think this one is a little too ambitious, especially in the context of the other recent posts we wrote covering Inkscape usage
22:31:27 <x3mboy> That's my point
22:31:28 <stickster> it's part intro, part screentour, part super-advanced features... I wrote to the list and suggested either rethinking it, or better yet, asking the first-time writer to pick one of our starter pitches that's easier to cover for a beginning writer
22:31:54 <stickster> jwf: x3mboy: agree with both of you... I respect the ambition :-) but it seems like we'd just have to rewrite too much of it
22:31:59 <sub_pop> i feel like there's potential in the extension part
22:32:06 <stickster> could be, yeah
22:32:24 <x3mboy> A lot, the guy include python code even
22:32:25 <stickster> propose that we see what Catalin wants to do in light of my suggestion on list?
22:32:34 <sub_pop> but it's enough material for even two articles. getting started with inkscape extensions and a follow-on with more detail
22:33:39 <x3mboy> stickster, yes, wait for his reply
22:33:48 <stickster> I think there's enough *scope* for a lot of articles, but not enough material for any of them :-D
22:33:52 <x3mboy> I think I wrote him about the pre tag or something
22:34:04 <jwf> stickster: +1 to wait to hear his thoughts from the suggestion on the list.
22:34:25 <stickster> IMHO, scoping is the #1 problem for quite a few proposed articles... if we can get writers to constrain that, it's a lot easier to write a good one
22:35:06 <stickster> #agreed wait to see how catalin wants to proceed based on list feedback
22:35:15 <sub_pop> scope creep, the universal problem
22:35:21 <stickster> in dev too :-)
22:35:35 <sub_pop> yup
22:35:38 <stickster> #info --- Widelands ---
22:35:54 <stickster> This is an article on another Fedora game.  I'm already +1 to the idea!
22:36:01 <stickster> (nothing written yet, so no link here)
22:36:18 <sub_pop> haha yea +1 for games
22:36:21 <jwf> The topic in itself sounds great to me. :)
22:36:28 <stickster> What's Georg's IRC nick?
22:36:32 <jwf> I'd like to know a little more about what the author wants to cover in it.
22:36:58 * stickster had maybe ASSumed a little too much... I thought it would be about installing, launching, and learning how to play
22:37:07 <jwf> geohas is the IRC nick from FAS
22:37:43 <stickster> #nick geohas
22:37:45 <x3mboy> +1 for games
22:37:56 <jwf> stickster: I think the answer depends on the writing experience of the author and if they might need some coaching / guidance for outlining their article.
22:38:09 <stickster> jwf: agreed, maybe we should ask him to stop by IRC for help
22:38:16 * jwf nods
22:38:29 <x3mboy> +1 to contact him
22:38:54 <jwf> I could add this to my email list for tomorrow as well :)
22:39:41 * jwf goes for it
22:39:45 <jwf> #action jwf Reach out to gmh about approving and moving forward on their pitch, "Fedora Games: Widelands"
22:40:20 <stickster> ha, so many emails
22:40:27 <stickster> hey at least they're easy to knock out quickly :-)
22:40:48 <x3mboy> xD
22:40:51 <jwf> Yep, and hopefully will end up producing great new content. :)
22:41:51 <stickster> #info --- Automated building a Fedora Atomic Host ---
22:42:00 <stickster> (no text here yet)
22:42:20 <stickster> I know trishnag wants to provide this but she got called away unexpectedly this week
22:42:32 <stickster> I would propose leave it for now, check in next week
22:42:42 <jwf> I have no qualms against this one becoming a full draft. :) Sounds good about checking in next week.
22:42:59 <stickster> Yeah, we should just approve and move to draft here, I guess :-)
22:43:01 <stickster> +1
22:43:09 <stickster> thanks for reminder about our purpose, jwf
22:43:41 <stickster> #agreed make this a draft, trishnag can go4it
22:43:48 <jwf> \o/
22:44:00 <stickster> jwf: with that, I need to take leave :-) ... do you want to take over gavel and finish?
22:44:24 <jwf> stickster: Yeah, can do! I'll probably just finalize our tentative schedule and then close out. :)
22:44:28 * stickster tosses gavel over
22:44:42 <stickster> Thanks everyone, and ttyl!
22:44:48 <sub_pop> o/
22:45:24 <jwf> Enjoy the gig, stickster! :)
22:46:17 <jwf> There's three more pitches from ryanlerch and stickster, but I think some of those might be best shared as starter pitches for new authors (outside of the Wine 2.0 one, which might need some follow-up with ryanlerch). I don't think we need to cover them now.
22:46:47 <sub_pop> installing drupal 7? there's already a drupal 8 article
22:46:57 <jwf> #topic Tentative publishing schedule (17 Feb. to 22 Feb.)
22:47:01 <sub_pop> is there some reason for drupal 7?
22:47:08 <jwf> sub_pop: Heh, whoops, I imagine that was likely a typo then. :)
22:47:16 <sub_pop> https://fedoramagazine.org/howto-install-drupal-8-fedora/
22:47:20 <sub_pop> huh. maybe?
22:47:41 <sub_pop> or, is it a leftover?
22:47:47 <jwf> sub_pop: Oh, hmmm… maybe this was a leftover
22:47:47 <jwf> I see what you mean now.
22:47:56 <jwf> I'll follow up with Paul tomorrow on that one
22:48:20 <jwf> #action jwf Follow up with stickster about the status of the Drupal 7 article, in light of https://fedoramagazine.org/howto-install-drupal-8-fedora/
22:48:27 * jwf scrolls back up to summarize the publishing schedule
22:50:15 <jwf> #agreed TENTATIVE PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 17 Feb., "Saving laptop power with powertop"; 20 Feb., "How to install WordPress on Fedora"; 22 Feb., "Mind Mapping on Fedora"
22:50:24 <x3mboy> +1
22:50:37 * jwf is hoping to have his Matrix article ready in time for Friday, but he hasn't mapped out the scope for that one yet
22:50:52 * jwf might want to write it as "Using Riot", "Using Riot for IRC"
22:51:03 <jwf> Anyways…
22:51:05 <jwf> #topic Open floor
22:51:21 <jwf> Anyone have something they want to share or cover in the last few minutes here?
22:51:27 <x3mboy> I'm happy to see a lot of new people in ML
22:51:41 <x3mboy> But I'm a little concern about no much pitchs on them
22:51:45 <sub_pop> lots of new introductions, yea
22:51:59 <x3mboy> I'm not sure if process is a little diffcult
22:52:12 <x3mboy> Maybe a consult in the smae ML could be useful
22:52:31 <x3mboy> Even a writter for the FCM, that is a reference in the ubuntu world
22:52:34 * jwf is going to try to do catch-up to see if we try to link folks to more starter pitches
22:52:38 <x3mboy> That's pretty cool
22:52:50 <jwf> I'm admittedly quite far behind on the list… somewhere around 90 posts. :/
22:52:55 <jwf> Going to try to fix that in the next few days.
22:53:08 <jwf> x3mboy: FCM?
22:53:17 <x3mboy> Full Circle Magazine
22:53:22 <jwf> Ahhh, gotcha. :)
22:53:30 <x3mboy> It's an unofficial magazine for Ubuntu
22:53:40 <sub_pop> my brain said "Fedora Core Magazine"
22:53:40 <x3mboy> A pretty good one
22:53:48 <jwf> sub_pop: Heheh
22:53:52 <x3mboy> LOL
22:53:58 <jwf> x3mboy: Awesome, I'll have to make sure to pass along my greetings then. :)
22:54:13 <jwf> Alrighty, if nothing else, we can go ahead and close out here, and I'll try to get the minutes out before midnight!
22:54:29 <x3mboy> jwf, btw, I have a comment pending in the commops blog (off/topic)
22:54:37 * jwf goes to look
22:55:00 <jwf> x3mboy: Oh, I think I already approved it :)
22:55:00 <x3mboy> Thanks for your work team, see ya!
22:55:05 <x3mboy> :D
22:55:16 <x3mboy> stickster++
22:55:22 <x3mboy> jwf++
22:55:26 <jwf> Alrighty, night folks! See ya around in channel or on the list. :)
22:55:37 <sub_pop> cheers
22:55:39 <jwf> A post-humous thanks to stickster for chairing the meeting :)
22:55:42 <jwf> .thank stickster
22:55:42 <zodbot> jwf thinks stickster is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to stickster++ also)
22:55:43 <jwf> #endmeeting