22:00:12 #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 22:00:12 Meeting started Thu Feb 16 22:00:12 2017 UTC. The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:00:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:00:12 The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 22:00:18 #meetingname magazine 22:00:18 The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 22:00:21 #topic Roll call 22:00:25 .hello pfrields 22:00:26 stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' 22:00:49 .hello linkdupont 22:00:50 sub_pop: linkdupont 'Link Dupont' 22:02:29 o/ sub_pop 22:02:41 hello hello 22:02:51 sub_pop: I don't see any other editors here... ryanlerch is out on PTO, no idea where jflory7's at 22:03:34 .hello jflory7 22:03:35 jwf: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' 22:04:19 oh!!! lol 22:04:23 #chair jwf 22:04:23 Current chairs: jwf stickster 22:04:29 #chair sub_pop 22:04:29 Current chairs: jwf stickster sub_pop 22:04:37 I had no idea, and I just DM'd you on Twitter :-D 22:04:57 Cool 22:05:01 #topic Review last week 22:05:21 jwf: I have to run at :45 for an early gig tonight 22:05:22 * jwf wonders if zodbot saw his message, or if his client is just lagging considerably 22:05:41 justin's secret identity 22:05:50 jwf: we got your name back and know who you are... are you seeing this? 22:06:27 #info 54.5K views last week, good stats -- should be higher this week for more articles, hopefully 22:06:58 #topic Pending Review 22:07:03 Whoa, just got flooded with messages! Had about a three minute delay there… 22:07:08 ha 22:07:12 Yeah, no qualms with speeding through to the :45 mark, let's go :) 22:07:19 jwf: Are you relatively back on the case this week? 22:07:35 #info nothing in Pending Review this week 22:07:43 #topic Drafts 22:07:52 stickster: Yes, I am. :) Finally settled back in. 22:07:54 #info https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post 22:08:04 Still have some mailing list catching up to do, but will make progress on it 22:08:53 #info None of the drafts have moved since last week -- x3mboy, pravins, and whoever 'evilissimo' is :-) 22:09:06 Oh wait, there is one 22:09:25 #info stickster has a 'How to install WordPress' draft started, but it needs more work and won't be done in time for 8 UTC tomorrow 22:10:06 sub_pop: tl;dr, this is the IRC nick I always wanted, but there was an old, inactive NickServ registration for it - over the weekend, I asked in #freenode if I could have it an OP gave it to me. Thus the nick change. It's permanent change. :) 22:10:08 * jwf nods to stickster 22:10:09 #info sub_pop provided an *awesome* taskwarrior post to start off this week 22:10:19 I did see that one :) 22:10:19 jwf: oh cool, I'll remember this then :-) 22:10:20 sub_pop++ 22:10:27 sub_pop++ 22:10:27 stickster: Karma for linkdupont changed to 3 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 22:10:31 hm 22:11:16 If *anyone* has an idea for a "quick hit" article for tomorrow, that would be awesome 22:11:18 * jwf is flipping through some of the starter pitches for quick ideas for something to spin up in time for tomorrow 22:12:03 jwf: that would be great... I wrote/edited 5 out of the 6 articles this week and although I had *ZERO* qualms about doing so :-) I'm a bit tapped out in terms of time atm 22:12:18 oops, 6 articles in the *past two weeks* 22:12:26 Yeah, understandable – I'll be glad to take some of that load back off of you now 22:12:49 jwf: Hey, one thing we could try, would be to reprint an old article tomorrow 22:12:56 We should also see about doing an open call on the mailing list with one of the starter pitches too, to attract potential writers. It's had about a 50/50 success rate in the past. 22:12:59 We've done it before, should I take a look for something older? 22:13:15 did we get anywhere with wine 2.0? 22:13:28 stickster: Since I'm in a later time zone now, I'm not as able to spin something up the night before anymore, so I'm +1 to recycling an older article for the time being. 22:14:28 jwf: how about this one? https://fedoramagazine.org/saving-laptop-power-with-powertop/ 22:15:01 stickster: Yeah, that was a high-performing one. We didn't repeat it during the holiday season in December / January, right? 22:15:02 I'm not set on it being something I wrote, but it *should* be something "howto" that's aged well, and I came across that one in a sea of "news about Fedora 22/23" articles 22:15:07 No, we didn't 22:15:21 Jun 11, 2015 22:15:25 Okay, then I have no qualms. +1 to repeating this one in the meanwhile. :) 22:15:33 So it's almost two years old, but it's still accurate AFAICT from reading 22:15:54 * jwf successfully used it at least a year after it was originally published 22:16:00 *nod 22:16:22 that's great little utility 22:16:26 we're on PowerTop 2.8 now (vs. 2.7) but the display hasn't changed at all. Everything in the article appears correct still. 22:16:41 +/-1 to flip to tomorrow? 22:17:19 +1 from me 22:17:21 +1 for sure 22:17:35 #agreed flip powertop article to reprint 2017-Feb-17 22:17:40 done 22:18:30 jwf: hey, here's something nice... it stays public at the same URL even when rescheduled for tomorrow ;-) 22:18:33 no loss of googlejuice 22:18:44 \o/ thank you WordPress gods 22:18:49 Excellent. :) 22:18:55 That's definitely handy. 22:19:03 jwf: that buys us some time :-) 22:19:09 From the existing content, do we have anything in drafts that was close to being ready? Or any secret full-blown articles in pitches? 22:19:22 jwf: I can finish WordPress article this weekend for sure, no problem 22:19:32 So consider that publishable next week whenever you want it 22:19:50 #action stickster finish WordPress install howto article this weekend, with image 22:20:05 .hello x3mboy 22:20:06 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 22:20:08 Okay, great. That would probably be better for Monday. I'm on the hook for sitting down to write the Matrix / Riot how-to I've wanted to write for some time. 22:20:09 Sorry, i'm late 22:20:20 I really want to try to get that prepped in time for Friday 22:20:26 * jwf waves to x3mboy 22:20:29 #chair x3mboy 22:20:29 Current chairs: jwf stickster sub_pop x3mboy 22:20:38 Hey x3mboy, you have a draft waiting as a matter of fact, on mindmaps... last we talked I think you were trying to finish that last weekend, any news? 22:21:10 Yes,I will upload the final version for revision tomorrow morning 22:21:24 x3mboy: please! I'll happily look at it this weekend for editing 22:21:34 stickster, count on it 22:21:39 We could maybe try to factor that in for a Wednesday publication date then. 22:21:55 #action x3mboy submit finished draft for mindmapping article Friday 2017-Feb-17 for editing 22:22:07 x3mboy: sounds like we're counting on you now :-~) 22:23:02 jwf: I wouldn't count on seeing ibus or ovirt articles right away for the moment, but maybe you could reach out to authors tomorrow? 22:23:36 Yeah, that's doable. I'll write up an action for both 22:23:42 cool 22:24:00 #action jwf Reach out to pravins about the status of his draft, "IBus typing booster – The Gateway of efficient and effective typing" 22:24:19 #action jwf Reach out to evilissimo about the status of their draft, "Configuring Fedora Cloud Base Image on oVirt with cloud-init" 22:24:26 jwf: Hey, there's something in Pitch which should really be in Draft, the i3 article 22:24:32 * jwf copy+pastes to Taskwarrior :P 22:24:37 heh 22:24:40 ^_^ 22:24:56 #info i3 window manager 22:24:59 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=16348&preview=1&_ppp=e13e5a0611 22:25:17 This is at least in editable shape... jwf, maybe just the thing to round out next week? 22:25:18 Hmmm… 22:25:23 Looks similar to this one, though: https://fedoramagazine.org/getting-started-i3-window-manager/ 22:25:39 yea, it's very similiar 22:25:47 I'd rather see it as an expansion to the original article we published 22:26:04 "Extending your i3 experience" 22:26:15 Or maybe just focusing in on a specific tool or small feature 22:26:24 ! 22:26:31 x3mboy: Sure, go for it! 22:26:41 The article from mythcat was already discussed? The one about inkscape 22:26:50 yeah, I hadn't even remembered the other i3 article! 22:27:00 jwf: +1 on extending i3, and link back to the earlier artticle 22:27:11 Want me to contact the author there as well? 22:27:26 jwf: +1 22:27:33 email-o-thon 22:27:48 One can complement the other 22:27:52 Or extend 22:27:54 x3mboy: agreed 22:28:03 #action jwf Reach out to ankitrgadiya about reworking the focus of their draft, "Try out i3 Window Manager" 22:28:07 Focusing less in installing, and more in advanced configuration 22:28:23 And change the title, because it will be deeper 22:28:25 #agreed new i3 article should concentrate on extending/customizing i3, link back to earlier i3 intro article 22:28:28 Link the first one 22:28:30 * jwf nods 22:28:42 Sorry, I was overthinking 22:28:43 Shall we look at pitches now? 22:29:00 Yeah, I think we can switch gears given the time constraint! 22:29:03 #topic Pitches 22:29:05 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post 22:29:15 #info --- inkscape 0.92 --- 22:29:27 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=16460&preview=1&_ppp=7464cbeea3 22:29:30 That's the one 22:29:50 It's a good article, but I'm concerned about the previuos inkscape series 22:29:50 I'm hesitant to go into this one too far... I wrote to the list just a little while ago about it... a bit of a mess scope-wise 22:30:02 Are there any features in here specific to 0.92? 22:30:13 Yeah, same thoughts, stickster 22:30:37 jwf: no, it doesn't talk about any new features in 0.92 (if that was indeed the plan) 22:31:07 related posts shows 4 other inkscape articles already 22:31:26 Hmmm… then I think this one is a little too ambitious, especially in the context of the other recent posts we wrote covering Inkscape usage 22:31:27 That's my point 22:31:28 it's part intro, part screentour, part super-advanced features... I wrote to the list and suggested either rethinking it, or better yet, asking the first-time writer to pick one of our starter pitches that's easier to cover for a beginning writer 22:31:54 jwf: x3mboy: agree with both of you... I respect the ambition :-) but it seems like we'd just have to rewrite too much of it 22:31:59 i feel like there's potential in the extension part 22:32:06 could be, yeah 22:32:24 A lot, the guy include python code even 22:32:25 propose that we see what Catalin wants to do in light of my suggestion on list? 22:32:34 but it's enough material for even two articles. getting started with inkscape extensions and a follow-on with more detail 22:33:39 stickster, yes, wait for his reply 22:33:48 I think there's enough *scope* for a lot of articles, but not enough material for any of them :-D 22:33:52 I think I wrote him about the pre tag or something 22:34:04 stickster: +1 to wait to hear his thoughts from the suggestion on the list. 22:34:25 IMHO, scoping is the #1 problem for quite a few proposed articles... if we can get writers to constrain that, it's a lot easier to write a good one 22:35:06 #agreed wait to see how catalin wants to proceed based on list feedback 22:35:15 scope creep, the universal problem 22:35:21 in dev too :-) 22:35:35 yup 22:35:38 #info --- Widelands --- 22:35:54 This is an article on another Fedora game. I'm already +1 to the idea! 22:36:01 (nothing written yet, so no link here) 22:36:18 haha yea +1 for games 22:36:21 The topic in itself sounds great to me. :) 22:36:28 What's Georg's IRC nick? 22:36:32 I'd like to know a little more about what the author wants to cover in it. 22:36:58 * stickster had maybe ASSumed a little too much... I thought it would be about installing, launching, and learning how to play 22:37:07 geohas is the IRC nick from FAS 22:37:43 #nick geohas 22:37:45 +1 for games 22:37:56 stickster: I think the answer depends on the writing experience of the author and if they might need some coaching / guidance for outlining their article. 22:38:09 jwf: agreed, maybe we should ask him to stop by IRC for help 22:38:16 * jwf nods 22:38:29 +1 to contact him 22:38:54 I could add this to my email list for tomorrow as well :) 22:39:41 * jwf goes for it 22:39:45 #action jwf Reach out to gmh about approving and moving forward on their pitch, "Fedora Games: Widelands" 22:40:20 ha, so many emails 22:40:27 hey at least they're easy to knock out quickly :-) 22:40:48 xD 22:40:51 Yep, and hopefully will end up producing great new content. :) 22:41:51 #info --- Automated building a Fedora Atomic Host --- 22:42:00 (no text here yet) 22:42:20 I know trishnag wants to provide this but she got called away unexpectedly this week 22:42:32 I would propose leave it for now, check in next week 22:42:42 I have no qualms against this one becoming a full draft. :) Sounds good about checking in next week. 22:42:59 Yeah, we should just approve and move to draft here, I guess :-) 22:43:01 +1 22:43:09 thanks for reminder about our purpose, jwf 22:43:41 #agreed make this a draft, trishnag can go4it 22:43:48 \o/ 22:44:00 jwf: with that, I need to take leave :-) ... do you want to take over gavel and finish? 22:44:24 stickster: Yeah, can do! I'll probably just finalize our tentative schedule and then close out. :) 22:44:28 * stickster tosses gavel over 22:44:42 Thanks everyone, and ttyl! 22:44:48 o/ 22:45:24 Enjoy the gig, stickster! :) 22:46:17 There's three more pitches from ryanlerch and stickster, but I think some of those might be best shared as starter pitches for new authors (outside of the Wine 2.0 one, which might need some follow-up with ryanlerch). I don't think we need to cover them now. 22:46:47 installing drupal 7? there's already a drupal 8 article 22:46:57 #topic Tentative publishing schedule (17 Feb. to 22 Feb.) 22:47:01 is there some reason for drupal 7? 22:47:08 sub_pop: Heh, whoops, I imagine that was likely a typo then. :) 22:47:16 https://fedoramagazine.org/howto-install-drupal-8-fedora/ 22:47:20 huh. maybe? 22:47:41 or, is it a leftover? 22:47:47 sub_pop: Oh, hmmm… maybe this was a leftover 22:47:47 I see what you mean now. 22:47:56 I'll follow up with Paul tomorrow on that one 22:48:20 #action jwf Follow up with stickster about the status of the Drupal 7 article, in light of https://fedoramagazine.org/howto-install-drupal-8-fedora/ 22:48:27 * jwf scrolls back up to summarize the publishing schedule 22:50:15 #agreed TENTATIVE PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 17 Feb., "Saving laptop power with powertop"; 20 Feb., "How to install WordPress on Fedora"; 22 Feb., "Mind Mapping on Fedora" 22:50:24 +1 22:50:37 * jwf is hoping to have his Matrix article ready in time for Friday, but he hasn't mapped out the scope for that one yet 22:50:52 * jwf might want to write it as "Using Riot", "Using Riot for IRC" 22:51:03 Anyways… 22:51:05 #topic Open floor 22:51:21 Anyone have something they want to share or cover in the last few minutes here? 22:51:27 I'm happy to see a lot of new people in ML 22:51:41 But I'm a little concern about no much pitchs on them 22:51:45 lots of new introductions, yea 22:51:59 I'm not sure if process is a little diffcult 22:52:12 Maybe a consult in the smae ML could be useful 22:52:31 Even a writter for the FCM, that is a reference in the ubuntu world 22:52:34 * jwf is going to try to do catch-up to see if we try to link folks to more starter pitches 22:52:38 That's pretty cool 22:52:50 I'm admittedly quite far behind on the list… somewhere around 90 posts. :/ 22:52:55 Going to try to fix that in the next few days. 22:53:08 x3mboy: FCM? 22:53:17 Full Circle Magazine 22:53:22 Ahhh, gotcha. :) 22:53:30 It's an unofficial magazine for Ubuntu 22:53:40 my brain said "Fedora Core Magazine" 22:53:40 A pretty good one 22:53:48 sub_pop: Heheh 22:53:52 LOL 22:53:58 x3mboy: Awesome, I'll have to make sure to pass along my greetings then. :) 22:54:13 Alrighty, if nothing else, we can go ahead and close out here, and I'll try to get the minutes out before midnight! 22:54:29 jwf, btw, I have a comment pending in the commops blog (off/topic) 22:54:37 * jwf goes to look 22:55:00 x3mboy: Oh, I think I already approved it :) 22:55:00 Thanks for your work team, see ya! 22:55:05 :D 22:55:16 stickster++ 22:55:22 jwf++ 22:55:26 Alrighty, night folks! See ya around in channel or on the list. :) 22:55:37 cheers 22:55:39 A post-humous thanks to stickster for chairing the meeting :) 22:55:42 .thank stickster 22:55:42 jwf thinks stickster is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to stickster++ also) 22:55:43 #endmeeting