13:00:08 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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13:00:10 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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13:00:13 <stickster> #topic Roll call
13:00:20 <stickster> .hello pfrields
13:00:22 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
13:00:23 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
13:00:24 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
13:00:28 <ryanlerch> morning stickster!
13:00:30 <stickster> zodbot seems a little slow atm
13:00:45 <stickster> maybe he has a snow day too, and we woke him up ;-)
13:01:00 <stickster> hiya ryanlerch
13:02:04 <ryanlerch> stickster: bit cold there today?
13:02:16 <stickster> ryanlerch: we have snow on the ground this morning, kids off school
13:02:44 * cverna has snow on the ground too this morning :)
13:02:48 <stickster> definitely a contender for a bad morning: you sleep poorly, and everyone else in the house gets to sleep in because no school
13:03:33 <cverna> you should play some music to wake them up :)
13:03:37 <stickster> lol
13:03:41 <stickster> #topic Last week's stas
13:03:43 <stickster> #info
13:03:46 <stickster> oh darn it
13:04:12 <ryanlerch> it was pretty horrible here today too
13:04:18 <ryanlerch> https://www.instagram.com/p/BeBzku9B8R1/
13:05:07 <stickster> #info just over 72K pageviews last week -- excellent week! and so far, 188.5K pageviews for January
13:05:17 <cverna> ryanlerch: it looks terrible
13:05:25 <stickster> The. Worst.
13:05:28 <cverna> \o/
13:05:35 <ryanlerch> stickster: wow!
13:05:42 <stickster> 😠
13:05:43 <ryanlerch> 188K already for january?
13:05:49 <ryanlerch> \o/
13:05:57 <stickster> yeah, not bad considering we're only halfway through the month
13:06:06 <stickster> helped no doubt by Meltdown/Spectre articles
13:07:12 <stickster> #topic Check-in from last week
13:08:02 <stickster> So there's a reprint this morning because our planned article was determined to be not eligible for publishing. Won't harp on that here, see list for details. But since we had an update on Meltdown early in the week, that pushed things back. So hopefully Plymouth can run on Friday
13:08:36 <ryanlerch> yeah i'll get plymoth for friday for sure
13:08:59 <ryanlerch> if i run into issues finishing it off, i will def wrangle something for friday
13:09:01 <stickster> cverna: do you still think you can draft the RSS article?
13:09:33 <cverna> stickster: I have started to work on it last week end
13:09:48 <cverna> I think I can get it done by the end of this week
13:10:08 <stickster> awesome... and I think you already contacted Ashutosh & the list about the 'ps' article
13:10:54 <stickster> cverna: when you're done, ping me and I can help by editing your RSS piece
13:11:13 <cverna> yes he said he would improve it, but I did not check if he did anything yet
13:11:18 <cverna> stickster++
13:11:18 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for pfrields changed to 12 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:11:40 <stickster> 🍪 party!
13:12:07 <stickster> OK, that covers most of the dangling tasks
13:12:14 <stickster> #topic Pending review posts
13:12:16 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending
13:13:16 <stickster> So there's a new post here from phracek. He didn't really check in about the pitch, but I talked to him briefly the other day about it. It actually does follow on a previous post on containers. It's a bit "thick" but interesting
13:13:26 <stickster> #info --- container testing ---
13:13:28 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19915&preview=1&_ppp=643a7fed92
13:15:12 <ryanlerch> yeah this one does look interesting
13:15:19 <ryanlerch> i get what you mean by think though
13:15:30 <ryanlerch> *thick
13:15:30 <stickster> I think it will make more sense once the English is tuned a bit
13:15:43 <stickster> A lot of output is shown which could be trimmed down too
13:15:45 <cverna> it will address "advanced" user
13:16:00 <ryanlerch> cverna: agreed
13:16:27 <ryanlerch> and maybe a little more of a lead-in would help a bit too
13:16:34 <stickster> cverna: +1, this is good for developers and sysadmins more than other users
13:17:08 <ryanlerch> this is a +1 form me!
13:17:29 <stickster> ryanlerch: agreed, I had asked phracek about that IIRC. if he doesn't provide something I might be able to crib it from the previous container testing article, https://fedoramagazine.org/testing-modules-containers-modularity-testing-framework/
13:17:59 <ryanlerch> stickster: sounds like a plan!
13:18:02 <stickster> ha, the MTF acronym was "repurposed," should probably explain that too
13:18:02 <cverna> yes +1 for me too
13:18:12 <stickster> #agreed pitch/draft approved
13:18:20 <stickster> #action stickster edit this article for publication next week
13:19:36 <stickster> #topic Drafts for review
13:19:39 <phracek> I am really glad, you approve it.
13:19:40 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
13:19:54 <phracek> Feel free to ping me If you need any help;)
13:20:23 <stickster> sure, thanks phracek
13:20:48 <stickster> #info --- COPR article for January ---
13:20:52 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19945&preview=1&_ppp=d157238c80
13:21:49 * cverna likes the COPR articles
13:22:05 <stickster> This is cool! Definitely a useful installment, +1 from me
13:22:21 <cverna> +1
13:22:32 <stickster> I love having these monthly, it's like a bonus box full of useful gadgets
13:22:35 <cverna> Netdata looks cool
13:23:04 <ryanlerch> +1
13:23:11 <ryanlerch> these are always good!
13:23:26 <stickster> #agreed COPR is go, can use this next week
13:23:28 <ryanlerch> would love to have a similar one for stuff in the actual repos too!
13:24:00 <stickster> ryanlerch: yeah, that would be a great thing to have -- like "3 useful packages" once a month.
13:24:36 <stickster> The package complement is a little unfairly weighted toward things like Python + Perl libraries, but there are still a *lot* of utilities out there that are useful
13:25:15 <cverna> maybe that's an idea for the list if anybody is interested by it
13:26:09 <ryanlerch> sorry to distract there!
13:27:05 <stickster> no worries, I think it's something we should pursue -- easy for beginners too
13:27:24 <stickster> ryanlerch: Can you maybe shoot that idea to list and see if you can drum up some takers?
13:27:33 <ryanlerch> stickster: for sure!
13:27:35 <stickster> #action stickster edit COPR article for next week
13:28:01 <ryanlerch> the biggest issue os avtually getting the list of pakages to write about :(
13:28:16 <ryanlerch> of the useful / interesting ones that is
13:28:50 <stickster> Yeah, might be useful to do something alphabetical... like "3 packages starting with the letter A" -- then there's only a few hundred packages to scan descriptions, and pick a few to try out
13:30:10 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1
13:30:48 <stickster> #action ryanlerch message list about "useful packages" idea from standard Fedora repos
13:30:52 <ryanlerch> #action ryanlerch to email list about newpackages post series
13:30:58 <ryanlerch> #undo
13:31:00 <stickster> oops, sorry!
13:31:19 <ryanlerch> sorry!
13:31:46 <stickster> we don't have any other new drafts since last week -- the remainders are ps, RSS DIY, plymouth, + openbox
13:31:59 <stickster> #topic Pitches to review
13:32:18 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
13:32:31 <stickster> #info --- GPIO expander project ---
13:32:36 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19937&preview=1&_ppp=608eae8fa6
13:33:35 <stickster> This is a RasPi hardware DIY topic -- pretty cool and we haven't had a hardware hacking article in a while IIRC
13:33:40 <cverna> it would be nice to have some pictures :P
13:34:00 <stickster> cverna: Agreed, we can ask the writer to provide them -- they already wrote the article so it shouldn't be much more work
13:34:50 <stickster> cverna: Maybe just a picture of the RasPi showing the GPIO pins prominently
13:34:54 <ryanlerch> cverna: agreed
13:35:12 <stickster> and perhaps one showing the LED connected properly
13:35:16 <ryanlerch> anyone have a raspi zero to test this?
13:35:21 <stickster> not here
13:36:29 <cverna> nope
13:36:50 <cverna> we should ask the author to provides us with the hardware to test :)
13:36:56 <ryanlerch> :)
13:37:17 <ryanlerch> this one couls also benefit from a lead in with maybe some examples of why?
13:37:53 <stickster> ryanlerch: yeah -- I think the idea is that if you can show how to use the GPIO (general purpose IO?) just to turn on a light, you could use it for all sorts of more complicated connections/purposes
13:38:32 <stickster> IOW, connect other things that rely on pin signals, and then you can control them through the GPIO
13:39:36 <stickster> What do you guys think, +/-1?
13:39:42 <cverna> +1
13:39:48 <ryanlerch> +1
13:39:57 <stickster> +1 here too
13:40:29 <stickster> #agreed GPIO pitch approved, contingent on adding a couple photos and a little more explanation at intro
13:40:56 <stickster> #action stickster email author/list about approval and ask for upgrades
13:41:51 <stickster> I already emailed the cinnamon author per last week's meeting, so moving forward...
13:43:09 <stickster> Looks like no other new updates here either
13:43:35 <stickster> I think we should either trash or return to "Starter Pitches" any of these that haven't been worked on since before December
13:44:12 <cverna> "Starter Pitches" maybe rather than trash
13:44:12 * stickster tries not to fall asleep on keyboard
13:45:00 <ryanlerch> stickster: or the holding pen?
13:45:36 <stickster> ryanlerch: perhaps, although the HP is more like a quasi-trash since I don't know how many folks look through it regularly
13:46:00 <ryanlerch> stickster: okie-dokw -- SP it is!
13:46:10 * stickster is OK with whatever -- but would like to clear this queue so we don't stare at the same out-of-date stuff all the time
13:47:06 <stickster> a couple of these pitches were not approved, and never updated as asked, so putting them in SP makes it seem like they're pre-approved
13:47:47 <stickster> the github/md article and the Windows apps article are like that... I think the former was never updated, and the latter was a bunch of screenshots with no text
13:48:02 <stickster> I think the Windows apps article is actually a good SP idea, though
13:48:08 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello jbwillia
13:48:09 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@gmail.com>
13:48:31 <stickster> o/ hola Ben
13:48:42 <Southern_Gentlem> brrrr morning
13:49:06 <stickster> x3mboy[m]: you still have that Jed article waiting -- any desire to finish that?
13:49:54 <cverna> Southern_Gentlem: o/
13:50:27 <stickster> pingou: I put in https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18271&preview=1&_ppp=187df98a56 as a placeholder. Can you write that for public/contributor consumption?
13:51:28 <pingou> stickster: sounds like a good idea, Dominik may be able to help there as well
13:51:33 <Southern_Gentlem> idea for an article  this is hard to explain but years ago Fedora went to SXSW and there were brochures made for like photo editing music and such i think spotlighting tools to do things would be great as well (goes with the 3 programs thing about)
13:51:41 <stickster> pingou: agreed -- co-authoring it would be absolutely cool
13:51:59 <stickster> #action pingou work with dperpeet to draft 'Contributing CI' article
13:52:35 <stickster> OK -- let's consider schedule for the upcoming week
13:52:43 <stickster> #topic Publishing next week
13:53:04 <stickster> Southern_Gentlem: sorry, I need more coffee, just read your idea
13:53:29 <stickster> Southern_Gentlem: Yes, agreed! I think that making a *topical* "cool utilities" article is a great concept
13:54:32 <ryanlerch> yeah, that does sound good!
13:54:40 <stickster> ryanlerch: important note... with devconf coming up some of us will be out of pocket next week. I'm going to try to get my editing done this week in advance so we can just have them autopush next week
13:54:49 <Southern_Gentlem> example https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/3/35/Graphicdesign-inner.pdf
13:54:50 <ryanlerch> i think ican dig up those brocers
13:55:12 <ryanlerch> stickster: sounds like a plan
13:55:18 <Southern_Gentlem> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/SXSW_Materials
13:56:30 <Southern_Gentlem> ryanlerch, ^^
13:57:10 <ryanlerch> Southern_Gentlem: oh, no need for me to dig them up
13:57:14 <ryanlerch> thanks Southern_Gentlem
13:58:51 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Fri Jan 19: Plymouth (ryanlerch) ; Mon Jan 22: container testing (stickster) ; Wed Jan 24: COPR (stickster) ; Fri Jan 26: RSS (edit: stickster/image: ryanlerch) ; Mon Jan 29: GPIO (edit/image: ryanlerch) ; Wed Jan 31: Contributing CI tests *or* alternate (TBD)
13:59:25 <stickster> ryanlerch: does that seem OK?  cverna: can you have your RSS article done this week so I could edit before travel?
13:59:42 <cverna> it looks good to me
13:59:44 <ryanlerch> schedule++
14:00:08 <stickster> So next week the Magazine meeting will be in my afternoon time while in Brno, shouldn't be a problem to run the meeting I think
14:00:16 <mattdm> (council meeting now...)
14:00:20 <stickster> thanks for coming everyone!
14:00:27 * stickster rips cord
14:00:28 <stickster> #endmeeting