20:00:16 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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20:00:17 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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20:00:19 <stickster> #topic Roll call
20:00:20 <stickster> .hello pfrields
20:00:23 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
20:01:08 <sub_pop> .hello linkdupont
20:01:09 <zodbot> sub_pop: linkdupont 'Link Dupont' <link@sub-pop.net>
20:01:16 <stickster> o/ sub_pop
20:01:22 <stickster> #chair sub_pop ryanlerch
20:01:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
20:01:26 <sub_pop> Greetings!
20:02:13 <stickster> Wow, great post (and graphic) by ryanlerch on the feed today
20:02:36 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
20:02:37 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
20:03:11 <stickster> Howdy all
20:03:48 <sub_pop> yes, ryanlerch++. The images have been really nice lately.
20:03:57 <stickster> He's such a master
20:04:02 <stickster> #topic Last week's stats
20:04:25 <ryanlerch> thakks!
20:04:53 <stickster> #info Week of 2018-Jul-30: > 69.3K pageviews, up from almost 66.4K the week previous
20:05:39 <ryanlerch> woah, aweseom1
20:06:03 <stickster> Nice work -- So far this week not too shabby either
20:06:39 <ryanlerch> yeah, the CD article seemded to go awesome!
20:06:55 <stickster> ryanlerch: One thing we can do to keep views moving up is to #hashtag the crap out of Twitter posts about articles
20:07:27 <ryanlerch> yeah, i never know which ones to add!
20:07:53 <stickster> I was talking to a social media business builder a few weeks ago and they said how much difference those make... I started using them for some of my non-Fedora work and they really do seem to drive up views and engagement
20:09:07 <stickster> And they can be more general... like the todo app one could add something like: #productivity #lifehacks #free #foss #timemanagement
20:09:57 <ryanlerch> ah, i see!
20:10:06 <stickster> IOW, bring a more general audience toward the Fedora stuff... but anyway, great article and very timely for those of us managing time with Flock this week :-D
20:10:07 * ryanlerch will try this out
20:10:20 <ryanlerch> stickster: :D
20:10:20 <stickster> several comments on this already too
20:10:35 * stickster is beat but will try to lead a good meeting :-)
20:11:04 <ryanlerch> yeah, almost awake now! myself!
20:11:26 <ryanlerch> let's get this knocked out so you get get some sleep!
20:11:37 <stickster> #topic Drafts to review
20:11:45 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
20:12:44 <stickster> #info --- PMF article ---
20:12:46 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21916&preview=1&_ppp=2d2ce4c0ad
20:13:38 <stickster> This article has been very heavily edited since our last session -- Davide emailed the list about it. Looks like it's cut down to really the more important info and less of the technical parts underneath that may not resonate with the general audience
20:14:21 <ryanlerch> yeah is looking a lot better
20:14:35 * ryanlerch is not sure about the images
20:14:46 <stickster> It's still got some jargon, but it may be hard to tell a compelling story without saying anything about the underlying method
20:14:48 <ryanlerch> not sure what the reference is there iether
20:15:06 <stickster> ryanlerch: Yeah -- I think those are references to a video game perhaps? I'm not sure about the image provenance so I'd encourage dropping those
20:15:17 <sub_pop> Those are characters from Street Fighter.
20:15:26 <stickster> sub_pop: ah, thanks
20:15:30 <sub_pop> But I don't get the connection to wifi
20:15:31 <stickster> <-- so uncool
20:15:39 <sub_pop> Street Fighter is from the 90s!
20:15:45 <stickster> I think they're probably just there to give the article a little more personality :-)
20:15:59 <sub_pop> Yea, probably.
20:16:04 <stickster> they're cute, but I don't think we have any license to use them
20:16:12 <sub_pop> Right.
20:16:12 <ryanlerch> yeah, i thought it was street fighter
20:16:32 <ryanlerch> and the quotes are the taungts the chars give before fights, right?
20:16:42 <stickster> that was my guess, yeah
20:16:47 <stickster> "ENOUGH TALK, LET'S FIGHT"
20:16:52 <sub_pop> That's my guess.
20:17:54 <stickster> It still may take a bit of editing to make this "street ready" ;-)
20:18:33 <sub_pop> HAR HAR
20:18:39 <stickster> sorry :-D
20:19:00 <sub_pop> I appreciate bad puns as much as the next dad.
20:19:14 <stickster> I can take editing of this article, but I may not be able to make it ready until next Monday or Wednesday since... Flock
20:19:39 <stickster> There are a couple others, we can hold off deciding schedule if y'all think that's OK
20:19:43 <ryanlerch> yeah, i think that should be ok
20:19:53 <ryanlerch> no need to ruch this one IMO
20:20:03 <atolstoy> .hello atolstoy
20:20:04 <zodbot> atolstoy: atolstoy 'Alexander Tolstoy' <a.a.tolstoy@gmail.com>
20:20:10 <ryanlerch> it's pretty in-depth
20:20:24 <ryanlerch> hi atolstoy
20:20:45 <stickster> OK
20:20:57 <atolstoy> Hello!
20:22:02 <stickster> #info --- Building RAID array using LVM ---
20:22:14 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22196&preview=1&_ppp=dd09e02363
20:23:07 <stickster> This one looks fairly ready to edit
20:23:37 <stickster> the process needs to be tested but at first glance it doesn't look crazy
20:23:41 <sub_pop> Yea, agree.
20:23:52 <stickster> Anyone want to pick this up for Friday?
20:24:02 <ryanlerch> yeah, my knowledge on this stuff is pretty average
20:24:14 <ryanlerch> sub_pop: you keen for an edit ;) ?
20:24:32 * stickster too. I think as long as the article says early on, this is just one way to skin the cat, that's OK
20:24:47 <sub_pop> Yea, I'll give it a go.
20:24:49 <stickster> there are other ways to build RAID, and there are other tools to use for storage mgmt like 'ssm' which is newer
20:24:57 <stickster> but not as pervasive yet
20:25:00 <ryanlerch> i can do the image!
20:25:31 <sub_pop> It's in great condition. I'll try verifying the process with ramdisks and what not.
20:25:39 <stickster> sub_pop: one thing to be careful of is use of "I," "we," "our," "us," etc. person -- since the Magazine voice tries to avoid referring to itself
20:25:55 <stickster> (i.e. first person singular or plural)
20:27:01 <ryanlerch> sub_pop++
20:27:37 <stickster> #action sub_pop edit the RAID/LVM post, aim to complete by night of Thu 2018-08-10 (USA timezones)
20:27:53 <stickster> #action ryanlerch image for RAID/LVM post and schedule for Fri 2018-08-11 if possible
20:28:06 <ryanlerch> _1
20:28:08 <ryanlerch> +1
20:28:28 <stickster> #info --- fstransform ---
20:28:30 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22143&preview=1&_ppp=a12ba6361a
20:29:10 <atolstoy> That's mine)
20:29:25 <stickster> This one also looks fascinating. I haven't tried this utility. The article seems to have a good bit of cautionary info and doesn't seem to be abnormally carefree about people's files
20:29:39 <atolstoy> It turned out to be compact. I'm in doubt if the word count is enough
20:30:08 <ryanlerch> atolstoy: i'd say its a perfect length, TBH
20:30:19 <stickster> atolstoy: it's a little under 600 words and that's absolutely fine
20:30:20 <stickster> atolstoy~~
20:30:24 <stickster> oops, atolstoy++
20:30:29 <stickster> ha, different keyboard tonight :-)
20:31:03 <stickster> I love this. It would make a good feature article for Monday IMHO
20:31:19 <ryanlerch> i can copy edit this one!
20:31:29 <atolstoy> Thanks, now I'm confident about it
20:31:34 <ryanlerch> atolstoy++
20:31:44 <stickster> #action ryanlerch edit fstransform article and schedule appropriately :-)
20:33:38 <stickster> ryanlerch: sub_pop: If you guys are OK with it, I'll take on the PMF article and have it ready for next Wednesday
20:33:48 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1
20:33:50 <ryanlerch> +1
20:34:05 <stickster> #action stickster copy edit PMF wifi article and image, and schedule for Wed 2018-08-15
20:34:25 <stickster> #topic Pitches to approve
20:34:29 <stickster> #info --- evemu ---
20:34:54 <stickster> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/3UFTN5O2F3N5VGAUCPTJCOAE7FT6FHFG/
20:35:19 <stickster> alciregi proposed a new article on this cool new tool in Fedora, which lets you make a virtual input device and replay events through it
20:35:35 <stickster> This could be *great* for people who have to do testing of apps over Wayland, since the old xdotool doesn't work there
20:35:52 <sub_pop> Yea, I liked this pitch.
20:35:58 <stickster> Our QA folks like adamw, kparal et al. might be interested in it too
20:36:01 <ryanlerch> yeah this one has the potential to be short, yet sweet!
20:36:06 <ryanlerch> +1 from me
20:36:36 <stickster> and we should also make sure workstation developers see it -- they should be thinking about how to write tests for their stuff for CI and other future goodies
20:36:44 <stickster> +1 from me
20:37:20 <stickster> #agreed evemu pitch is good to go
20:37:30 <stickster> #action stickster email alciregi and list with approval and go to draft
20:38:48 <ryanlerch> thanks stickster!
20:38:51 <stickster> (DONE)
20:39:30 <stickster> I think that's everything new at the moment, unfortunately :-|
20:39:50 <stickster> #topic Publishing schedule
20:40:28 <ryanlerch> seems like we have a full week though!
20:41:01 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Fri 2018-08-10: RAID/LVM (sub_pop / image: ryanlerch) -- Mon 2018-08-13: fstransform (ryanlerch) -- Wed 2018-08-15: PMF (stickster) -- Fri 2018-08-17: TBA
20:41:19 <ryanlerch> oh...
20:41:22 <ryanlerch> http://rhea-ayase.eu/articles/2018-08/LVM-RAID-on-Fedora
20:41:37 <ryanlerch> we just tweeted about it on the Fedora twitter too...
20:41:43 <sub_pop> Oh, huh.
20:41:53 <smooge> i read that and thought i twas the article from a previous meeting
20:42:03 <ryanlerch> that is the authur's blog
20:42:03 <stickster> Oh man
20:42:08 <stickster> bummer
20:42:14 <sub_pop> Cat's out of the bag, as they say.
20:43:22 <ryanlerch> sorry to thorw a spanner in the works
20:44:50 <sub_pop> Can we get another one of those top 5's when the whole channel descended on our meeting a few weeks back?
20:47:13 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Fri 2018-08-10: N-best article (ryanlerch) -- Mon 2018-08-13: fstransform (ryanlerch) -- Wed 2018-08-15: PMF (stickster) -- Fri 2018-08-17: TBA
20:47:38 <ryanlerch> +1 from me!
20:47:44 <stickster> Who did we nab for that?  I think it included pingou and smooge :-)  I think smooge has his hands full the next 5 days or so while most of his team is here at Flock
20:48:04 <sub_pop> Just mention "the editor that shall not be named"
20:48:28 <ryanlerch> sub_pop: gedit?
20:48:53 <ryanlerch> ;)
20:49:19 <stickster> reminders...
20:49:19 <sub_pop> This would be easy to crank out. https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19422&preview=true
20:49:33 <stickster> #action misc do article on [N] cool terminal pagers
20:49:50 <stickster> #action smooge do article on [N] cool music players
20:49:59 <stickster> #action pingou do article on [N] cool text-based email apps
20:50:27 <smooge> I am having to research music players since I don't use any.. so it will get done late August
20:50:36 <stickster> nice smooge!!!!
20:50:36 <ryanlerch> was actually thinking something like graphics apps and tools
20:50:42 <stickster> smooge+++++++
20:50:47 <stickster> smooge++
20:50:48 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for smooge changed to 14 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:50:53 <ryanlerch> for friday anyway
20:50:53 <stickster> aw man, zodbot you are way too literal
20:51:04 <stickster> ryanlerch: oh yeah, I meant for later in the future
20:51:14 <ryanlerch> smooge++
20:51:14 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for smooge changed to 15 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:51:20 <stickster> but not THAT late in the future *cough* *cough* pingou misc *cough*
20:51:30 <ryanlerch> lol!
20:51:46 <ryanlerch> how's the magazine flag flying at flock?
20:51:53 <stickster> ryanlerch: HIGH!!!!
20:52:03 <ryanlerch> recruited everyone to write yet?
20:52:05 <stickster> #agreed Fri 2018-08-10: N-best article (ryanlerch) -- Mon 2018-08-13: fstransform (ryanlerch) -- Wed 2018-08-15: PMF (stickster) -- Fri 2018-08-17: TBA
20:52:13 <stickster> #topic All other business (Open floor)
20:52:34 <stickster> #info FPL mattdm called out Magazine stats big-time in his keynote this morning
20:52:42 <ryanlerch> woo!
20:52:49 <stickster> Showing our ascending stats as evidence that more people are getting interested in Fedora at a user level
20:53:00 <atolstoy> BTW, my next article will be ready in a week or so
20:53:09 <stickster> atolstoy++  nice!
20:53:25 <atolstoy> This time about upscaling
20:53:55 <stickster> I didn't pitch a talk on Magazine, but I will see if I can still sign up for a lightning talk, and do it!
20:54:14 <sub_pop> Awesome
20:54:56 <ryanlerch> thanks stickster!
20:55:11 <ryanlerch> nothign more to AOB from me!
20:55:22 * stickster did his stressful, high level talk on strategy around lifecycle this morning
20:55:37 <ryanlerch> stickster: isnt there a party or something for flock tonight?
20:55:48 <stickster> there was game night and candy swap tonight
20:55:55 <stickster> I just went to a small dinner with a couple people
20:55:57 <ryanlerch> missing it for the meeting? awww
20:56:07 <ryanlerch> stickster++
20:56:09 <stickster> oh, and karaoke I hear!
20:56:17 <stickster> but I'm extroverted out for the day :_D
20:56:23 <ryanlerch> :D
20:56:30 <ryanlerch> get some sleep!
20:56:33 <ryanlerch> :D
20:56:40 <stickster> OK. Thanks for coming sub_pop ryanlerch atolstoy
20:56:45 <stickster> #endmeeting