20:00:56 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
20:00:56 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 15 20:00:56 2018 UTC.
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20:00:59 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
20:00:59 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine'
20:01:01 <stickster> #topic Roll call
20:01:04 <stickster> .hello pfrields
20:01:05 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
20:01:17 <sub_pop> .hello linkdupont
20:01:18 <zodbot> sub_pop: linkdupont 'Link Dupont' <link@sub-pop.net>
20:01:21 <sub_pop> o/
20:02:53 <stickster> #chair sub_pop ryanlerch cverna
20:02:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: cverna ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
20:02:59 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
20:02:59 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
20:03:02 <stickster> Wow, something got really laggy here, and just woke up
20:03:05 <stickster> sorry guys
20:03:36 <ryanlerch> yeah, laggy here too, and just woke up :)
20:03:43 <stickster> ha, human lag :-D
20:03:52 <ryanlerch> coffee is helping :)
20:04:04 <ryanlerch> not sure if that helps IRC lag tho
20:04:08 <stickster> I'm pretty sure when my phone is on the wifi, and it gets an MMS message, it does something really bad to the signal in the room
20:04:29 <stickster> anyhow, that's a personal problem apparently ;-)
20:06:04 <stickster> #info Top business -- ryanlerch++ for keeping things rolling over Flock time!
20:06:04 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 4 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:06:14 <stickster> COOKIE PARTY!!!!!
20:06:14 <ryanlerch> thanks!
20:06:23 <sub_pop> yea, for sure ryanlerch++
20:06:23 <zodbot> sub_pop: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 5 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:06:27 <stickster> #topic Last week's stats
20:06:51 <stickster> #info Week of Aug 6: > 62.1K page views, a bit down from previous week 69K but still quite good!
20:07:48 <stickster> Month of August so far: 136K page views, respectable... at this pace will be close to July's 273K, but August 2017 was > 280K so it'd be nice to top that
20:07:52 <ryanlerch> we are sitting on a 9,442 average so far for the year
20:08:03 <stickster> ryanlerch: that's daily? wow
20:08:43 <ryanlerch> yeah, last year'saverage daily was 8620
20:09:38 <asamalik> .hello2
20:09:39 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
20:09:46 <stickster> not too shabby... oh hey! Adam's here! o/
20:09:50 <ryanlerch> hi asamalik! and welcome!
20:09:53 <stickster> #chair asamalik
20:09:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik cverna ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
20:10:08 * ryanlerch checks the europe time...
20:10:08 <stickster> Let's see how our post roster looks
20:10:16 <stickster> about 10pm
20:10:29 <ryanlerch> thanks for coming in so late asamalik!
20:10:45 <ryanlerch> we have a new HDYF in pending! woo!
20:11:00 <ryanlerch> cproffitt++
20:11:09 <stickster> #topic Pending review posts
20:11:22 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
20:11:25 <stickster> #info --- HDYF ---
20:11:35 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22127&preview=1&_ppp=e174463b06
20:12:00 <stickster> Yay! Great to see a new interview. Unless anyone's opposed, this goes into the hopper for edit/publication ASAP
20:12:08 <stickster> we can figure out the date in a little bit :-)
20:12:42 <ryanlerch> no opposition here
20:13:00 <stickster> I'll take editing, I owe that back to the group anyhow ;-)
20:13:06 <asamalik> hey everyone, sorry I had some issues with connectivity here, but it should be OK now
20:13:08 <stickster> #action stickster edit HDYF, publication date TBD
20:13:19 <stickster> no worries Adam, we're just reviewing posts in the queue to see what lines up for publication at this point
20:13:33 <stickster> #info --- LVM RAID ---
20:13:43 <stickster> ryanlerch: care to do the honors of posting the preview link?
20:14:05 <ryanlerch> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22196&preview=1&_ppp=bb683dca57
20:14:29 <ryanlerch> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22196&preview=1&_ppp=bb683dca57
20:14:34 <stickster> Is this the one that was a repost of someone's blog?
20:15:08 <ryanlerch> yeah, this is the one that was laready posted elsewhere, and promotoed on @fedora twitter
20:15:11 <sub_pop> Yea, Rhea's, IIRC
20:15:16 <ryanlerch> so a -1 for me on this one
20:15:32 <stickster> Oh, we don't want to just republish stuff like that, I think.
20:15:49 * asamalik wants to learn about and help with the Fedora Magazine...
20:15:54 * asamalik will be observing for a while
20:16:15 <stickster> #action stickster write a note to Rhea + list to ask for something original, maybe a follow-up article?
20:17:20 <ryanlerch> asamalik: awesome! just for background, in this meeting, we prettty much go though our queue, and schedule/ assign posts for the next 7 day period
20:17:44 <asamalik> ryanlerch: thanks! OK
20:17:44 <stickster> exacvtly
20:17:45 <ryanlerch> our goal is 3 posts a week (Friday, Monday, Wednesday)
20:17:48 <Rhea> I'm here
20:18:35 <stickster> Hi Rhea, I just posted back to the list to respond to your email there -- we make it a practice to publish original material on the Magazine, so this article might not be a good fit since it's already something blogged and promoted elsewhere
20:18:45 <asamalik> ryanlerch: is the queue somewhere? like tickets?
20:19:22 <stickster> asamalik: It's directly in the WordPress instance itself -- we basically use that as the contribution queue
20:19:25 <Rhea> Well I wrote it for the magazine, using my blog as a draft to be able to verify the content's validity with some other outside engineers... with nice formatting instead of a plain text
20:19:49 <asamalik> stickster: cool! and then you basically pick up the best-fitting three for the next week?
20:20:00 <Rhea> I did not actually post it anywhere, if someone noticed and tweeted it, I didn't even know :D
20:20:01 <ryanlerch> asamalik: stickster does a sum-up action item here in the meeting, listing the items
20:20:16 <stickster> Rhea: Ah, I see -- unfortunately it looks like that was picked up on Twitter already! Your blog might be more popular than you think :-)
20:21:20 <stickster> looks like it came up on the Fedora Planet too :-)
20:21:37 <Rhea> Okay heh, maybe a followup some other time then :P
20:21:57 <stickster> Rhea: that would be great -- before writing, get in touch with us about the idea and we can discuss and give tips
20:22:00 <sub_pop> To be fair, the content is perfect for the Magazine.
20:22:11 <stickster> that is *definitely* true
20:22:31 <Rhea> Yup
20:22:34 <stickster> Rhea: I saw that you had a troubleshooting idea in your email, that sounds like a good idea too
20:22:58 <Rhea> yup, I was looking for some info about that and there isn't really much...
20:22:59 <x3mboy> .hell2
20:23:12 <stickster> heh, x3mboy came in cussing
20:23:22 <sub_pop> 😂
20:23:29 <Rhea> It's not a tough topic for a man-page-skilled linux user, but there don't seem to be any written articles about recovering lvm raid, etc...
20:23:30 <x3mboy> .hello2
20:23:31 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
20:23:40 <Rhea> hi x3mboy
20:23:44 <x3mboy> Rhea, o/
20:23:47 <x3mboy> stickster, o/
20:23:50 <x3mboy> sub_pop, o/
20:23:54 <x3mboy> How are you guys?
20:24:01 <x3mboy> And bunny
20:24:04 <x3mboy> :D
20:24:08 <stickster> Great x3mboy! OK, moving on to drafts since I have to get out of here on time :-D
20:24:11 <Rhea> So yeah, i'll be in touch when I have a bit more time again (gonna have a few busy weeks at work-work now)
20:24:16 <stickster> sounds good Rhea
20:24:21 <stickster> #topic Drafts to review
20:24:28 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
20:24:30 <asamalik> x3mboy: hey!
20:24:41 <stickster> #info --- advanced battery saving ---
20:24:42 <x3mboy> asamalik, o/
20:24:43 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22301&preview=1&_ppp=fd7867ad9a
20:25:27 <sub_pop> Sounds neat.
20:25:32 <sub_pop> +1 here
20:25:40 <stickster> I don't recall -- did we approve this already?  If not, it's a *great* idea and I'm +1 -- taskset is useful.
20:25:40 <sub_pop> I like tech dives like this.
20:26:00 <stickster> Our readership does tend to like easy-tweak things like this
20:26:04 <ryanlerch> yeah not sure if we have seen this one as a pitch, but +1 for me
20:26:22 <asamalik> I wouldn't mind learning about having a longer battery life for sure
20:26:23 <stickster> #agreed battery saving article approved and the author should proceed
20:26:42 <stickster> #action stickster email author + list to encourage author to finish draft
20:27:09 <stickster> #info --- CJDNS ---
20:27:16 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22337&preview=true
20:27:28 <stickster> (I can't get the public preview link, Stuart still has editing session open)
20:27:54 <stickster> But there's a good draft ready!
20:29:13 <stickster> asamalik: FYI we typically go through these to determine next steps. For drafts, we need to assign an editor and someone to do a featured image. We have pages on the Magazine that describe style guidelines and images, in case they're needed.
20:29:22 <sub_pop> Can we bring up the 15 year anniversary article? It's coming up in a couple months. I'd love to get a collaborator on it with me. https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21118&preview=true
20:29:24 <asamalik> now we're reviewing pitches, right?
20:29:42 <stickster> asamalik: This one is a draft whose pitch we approved already
20:29:43 <asamalik> stickster: hahaha thanks for replying before I could even send the question :D
20:29:55 <stickster> :-)
20:30:14 <ryanlerch> this one is pretty over my head, but it is is looking good!
20:30:15 <stickster> sub_pop: good point -- let's hit that one in a moment too
20:30:23 <asamalik> stickster: pitches are done on the list, right?
20:30:52 <stickster> asamalik: typically, although sometimes people just put a pitch article in WP and we contact them based on that. The author name is a FAS account, so we can look up their email via Zodbot.
20:30:55 <ryanlerch> asamalik: a little of both the meeting and list
20:31:04 <stickster> ^ that too
20:31:17 <asamalik> thanks
20:31:36 <stickster> For this CJDNS article, I could probably edit it.  Maybe someone could swap me for the HDYF interview?
20:31:57 <ryanlerch> it's a little adhoc, but being a small team, it seems to work (thanks mostly to this meeting, and stickster's chairing ability )
20:32:00 <stickster> Not sure I'll have time to do two this weekend -- it's pretty packed
20:32:25 <ryanlerch> i can copy-edit the HDYF one
20:32:27 * stickster wields the velvet-wrapped iron fist of Getting People to Do the Things
20:32:32 <stickster> ryanlerch: you're on
20:32:44 <stickster> #action CORRECTION: ryanlerch to edit HDYF article
20:32:55 <stickster> #action stickster edit the CJDNS article
20:32:56 * ryanlerch notes he has taken the easy task :)
20:33:01 <asamalik> so if I understand that correctly, it's three steps: 1) pitch — to approve the idea, 2) draft — assigning an editor, someone for the image, probably some feedback, and 3) final approval + scheduling the publishing?
20:33:02 <stickster> meh, I owe  you
20:33:12 <ryanlerch> i'll do the image for CJDNS
20:33:14 <stickster> asamalik: Indeed! Hang on, I can point you at our process
20:33:29 <stickster> asamalik: https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/
20:33:40 * asamalik is making a bookmark
20:34:28 <stickster> asamalik: that's also linked in every page's sidebar
20:34:41 <ryanlerch> asamalik: if you have any pitch ideas, feel free to just throw them in as a pitch post too
20:34:55 <stickster> asamalik: For images, we also have https://fedoramagazine.org/creating-a-featured-image-for-a-fedora-magazine-article/
20:35:00 <ryanlerch> if you can't write it, someone else might
20:35:04 <stickster> ^^ +++++
20:35:14 <ryanlerch> it is good to have a bank of ideas for lean weeks :)
20:35:26 <stickster> we have a lot of articles in the Starter Pitches category for that
20:35:36 <stickster> And every few meetings, we brainstorm on more
20:35:54 <stickster> they're welcome anytime. You don't even have to wait, just add them with a brief description of what you think each article should cover
20:35:55 <asamalik> ah interesting, so someone can have an idea, and someone else can write that, I like it!
20:36:01 <stickster> indeed
20:36:14 <ryanlerch> stickster: while still on drafts, should we holding pen some of these older drafts?
20:36:18 <stickster> All right -- so we closed on CJDNS, let's see what's next
20:36:35 <ryanlerch> that havent seen editing for 6 months or so?
20:36:40 <sdgathman_> Wait
20:36:53 <stickster> hi sdgathman_! We were just talking about you under your nose ;-)
20:37:07 <sdgathman_> Having trouble with freenode registration.  I finished my draft.
20:37:10 <stickster> sdgathman_++ on that article draft, it's looking pretty good!
20:37:10 <sdgathman_> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22337&preview=true&preview_id=22337
20:37:25 <stickster> sdgathman_: Good man! I'm on deck to edit and publish it, now that we know you're ready :-)
20:37:31 <sdgathman_> Ok, fine.
20:37:44 <stickster> Thanks for the contribution!!!
20:38:12 <asamalik> ^^ that link says "Page not found" even when I'm logged into Wordpress :(
20:38:31 <stickster> asamalik: the link that sdgathman_ posted?
20:38:38 <asamalik> stickster: yes
20:38:45 <stickster> It seems to work OK for me -- it could be your role in the Magazine isn't allowing
20:39:37 <stickster> Ah, that's it. I'm correcting
20:40:11 <stickster> asamalik: try again
20:40:17 <x3mboy> I can see it
20:40:42 <asamalik> stickster: now I can see it! thanks
20:40:45 <stickster> it's still a private post because it's not published yet, and unless you're an author or above you can't read it
20:40:48 <asamalik> stickster: was that something with my account?
20:40:50 <stickster> I moved you to author role
20:41:00 <stickster> yup
20:41:01 * asamalik feels important
20:41:03 <asamalik> stickster: thanks!
20:41:05 <stickster> haha
20:41:12 <stickster> we're ALL important here ;-D
20:41:36 <stickster> #topic Old drafts to bin
20:42:08 <asamalik> well that's a good move for me then :D
20:42:27 <ryanlerch> i suggest we holding pen the Going Hpersonic ones
20:42:29 <asamalik> this topic feels sad :(
20:42:30 <stickster> I'm afraid we should probably do this to the hypersonic articles -- as they still needed some work and likely not getting it soon :-(
20:42:42 <ryanlerch> and the simulate electronics?
20:42:44 <stickster> it happens sometimes asamalik... par for the course, people get busy, or other things interfere
20:42:59 <stickster> ryanlerch: yeah... do you agree sub_pop x3mboy?
20:43:02 <asamalik> stickster: definitely makes sense
20:43:26 <ryanlerch> asamalik: we rarely delete, just put in the "holding pattern" box :)
20:43:28 <stickster> this way we don't look at them like old bugs that are never fixed... that's demoralizing, so we try to clean the queue every meeting or two
20:43:51 <stickster> people are always welcome to come back and try again, bring a post out of the holding pen, etc.
20:43:55 <ryanlerch> i say we keep the color calibration one in there
20:44:01 <stickster> yeah, make sub_pop work for it
20:44:05 <stickster> hee hee
20:44:55 <asamalik> sounds good! :)
20:45:23 <stickster> someday I have to ask puiterwijk why WP will take a long time to finish running a process, except when I hit it with another HTTP request, which forces the process to finish quickly
20:45:48 <x3mboy> +1
20:45:50 <puiterwijk> Hum. That is a good question.
20:46:14 <x3mboy> Delay
20:46:16 <puiterwijk> stickster: I think you just asked him that. A node has been spawned to investigate
20:46:16 <stickster> puiterwijk: I'll remind you another time since our meeting is running long :-)
20:46:22 <stickster> hahahahaha
20:46:48 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk-bot++
20:46:51 <stickster> #action stickster clean Draft queue of agreed on articles (DONE)
20:47:00 <stickster> #topic Pitches to review
20:47:02 <sub_pop> haha. Yea, I need to ping Richard still
20:47:04 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
20:48:09 <stickster> #info --- evemu ---
20:48:26 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22277&preview=1&_ppp=de132a5ba7
20:48:31 <stickster> Looks like this is actually drafted now!
20:48:36 <stickster> alciregi++
20:48:36 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for alciregi changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:48:48 * stickster moves to Draft status
20:49:08 <sub_pop> Nice!
20:49:11 <ryanlerch> yeah, i think this one had been previously +1ed
20:49:20 <stickster> Yeah, I recall that from last meetings
20:49:22 <ryanlerch> i.e. was laready a draft
20:49:37 <ryanlerch> it's looking fantastic too
20:49:48 <stickster> This will need a bit of editing for language/style, but the content is solid
20:50:07 <sub_pop> Agreed.
20:50:29 <stickster> Anyone want to take editor duty on it, to see if we could publish next week?
20:50:39 <sub_pop> I can.
20:50:43 <stickster> sub_pop++
20:50:49 <ryanlerch> sub_pop++
20:50:59 <stickster> #action sub_pop edit evemu article for publishing next week, date TBD in a moment
20:51:05 <ryanlerch> i can be on Image duty as well
20:51:11 <stickster> nice ryanlerch
20:51:21 <stickster> I don't see anything new here other than that.
20:51:36 <stickster> x3mboy: any chance you can resurrect the zsh tuning guide article?
20:51:45 <x3mboy> Yes
20:51:49 <stickster> x3mboy: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21453&preview=1&_ppp=2035159918
20:51:54 <x3mboy> It's on my to-do list for next week
20:52:06 <stickster> \o/   x3mboy++
20:52:07 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for x3mboy changed to 11 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:52:08 <ryanlerch> stickster: i think we have pitch approved the scaling bitmaps one
20:52:10 <sub_pop> Yea! I'm all in on zsh again now :)
20:52:14 <stickster> ryanlerch: correct
20:52:15 <x3mboy> :D
20:52:25 <ryanlerch> drafterize it?
20:52:30 <stickster> ryanlerch: done!
20:52:38 <ryanlerch> stickster++
20:53:13 <stickster> I think sayan's article has been lingering and if he's not going to finish we'll put this in holding pen. It's no longer that newsworthy
20:53:32 <stickster> #topic Publishing schedule
20:53:35 <ryanlerch> anyone know much about amazon cloud stuff? the AWS AMIs one has been there for a bit
20:53:53 <ryanlerch> it's kinda newsy, just not sure how relevant it still is
20:54:00 <stickster> ryanlerch: yeah, that's the one I meant... it's no longer a new feature, and what's there is not explained in a way I think most people can understand the value
20:54:31 <ryanlerch> stickster: sorry, missedassge there :)
20:54:33 <ryanlerch> +1
20:54:42 <stickster> Since F28 is still current, we could still publish this with some value, but only if sayan (or someone) writes the text to make it resonate with readers
20:55:14 <stickster> I'll see if Evolution wants to lean on him to do it ;-)
20:55:29 <ryanlerch> +1
20:55:46 <ryanlerch> sorry to interrupt the scheuling!
20:56:16 <stickster> no worries!
20:56:28 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Publishing: Fri Aug 17: HDYF (edit+image:ryanlerch) -- Mon Aug 20: CJDNS (edit:pfrields, image:ryanlerch) -- Wed Aug 22: evemu (edit:sub_pop, image:ryanlerch)
20:56:42 <sub_pop> Looks good to me
20:56:51 <stickster> that's a lot of images, ryanlerch -- you OK with that? I can do mine if you want a breather, but everyone likes yours best ;-)
20:57:28 <ryanlerch> stickster: happy to do them!
20:57:37 <ryanlerch> trying to ramp them up a bit!
20:57:52 <stickster> ryanlerch: at least with HDYF you can just use the user photo I guess?
20:58:13 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah, that one is pretty much always already done for me!
20:58:45 <stickster> ryanlerch: it would be cool if you came up with a "How Do You Fedora?" stamp that we could import onto those... like a passport stamp we could put in the corner like it overlapped the page
20:59:16 <sub_pop> a HYDF badge, maybe?
20:59:23 <sub_pop> HDYF*
20:59:34 <stickster> not meaning outside the image border, that seems too much work... just that we'd position it in a corner so part of it was not visible (outside the image border)
20:59:40 <stickster> um
20:59:51 <stickster> I really explained that badly. ryanlerch, am I making any sense?
20:59:56 <ryanlerch> How you do, Fedora?
21:00:03 <sub_pop> 🤣
21:00:05 <stickster> lol
21:00:17 <ryanlerch> stickster: i'll see what i can do
21:00:20 <stickster> also, is the schedule above good?
21:00:23 <ryanlerch> +1
21:00:28 <ryanlerch> ooh, on time!
21:00:45 <stickster> ryanlerch: the thing I'm suggesting would require no CSS work -- just an inkscape SVG we could import into a photo and place it so it slips outside the guides a little, that would look cool
21:01:05 <stickster> s/guides/canvas/
21:01:15 <ryanlerch> stickster: i think i know what you are getting at!
21:01:27 <stickster> OK, cool. Thanks, I'm doing very badly at expressing myself today :-D
21:01:33 <stickster> #agreed Publishing: Fri Aug 17: HDYF (edit+image:ryanlerch) -- Mon Aug 20: CJDNS (edit:pfrields, image:ryanlerch) -- Wed Aug 22: evemu (edit:sub_pop, image:ryanlerch)
21:01:42 <stickster> OK, that's it all -- thanks for coming! I need to run -- gig tonight :-)
21:01:48 <sub_pop> have fun!
21:01:50 <stickster> #endmeeting