21:00:02 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 21:00:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Feb 13 21:00:02 2019 UTC. 21:00:02 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 21:00:02 <zodbot> The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:02 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 21:00:03 <stickster> #meetingname magazine 21:00:03 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 21:00:06 <stickster> #topic Roll call 21:00:09 <stickster> .hello pfrields 21:00:10 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 21:00:13 <stickster> #chair asamalik cverna ryanlerch 21:00:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik cverna ryanlerch stickster 21:00:23 <stickster> Howdy everyone! o/ 21:00:24 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch 21:00:25 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com> 21:00:30 <cverna> hello o/ 21:00:31 <ryanlerch> morning all! 21:00:53 <asamalik> .hello2 21:00:54 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com> 21:01:03 <asamalik> happy Wednesday and Thursday! 21:01:56 * stickster hands asamalik the gavel 21:02:26 * asamalik 's computer decided to log him out of everything for his convenience 21:02:33 <stickster> nice 21:03:01 <stickster> I'll hit stats while you get things back in order... we have a lot of pitches and drafts that seem to have come in recently! 21:03:08 <stickster> #topic Last week's stats 21:03:24 <asamalik> stickster++ 21:03:41 <stickster> #info Week of Feb 4-10: about 75.9K pageviews -- a little down from previous week but still quite a bit more than usual! 21:04:10 <asamalik> nice! 21:04:21 <stickster> One of our standout days was the logo redesign article on Feb 8 21:04:29 * asamalik convinced his computer to compute 21:04:30 <cverna> I wonder if the jump in the page views comes from that big social network company that deployed fedora at scale 21:04:31 <stickster> sorry, 7th. 21:05:13 <stickster> Anyway, on track for a good February :-) 21:05:18 * stickster hands gavel back to asamalik 21:05:41 <asamalik> #topic Pending review posts 21:05:46 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post 21:05:50 <ryanlerch> nice! sorry for the schedule change there 21:05:56 <ryanlerch> with the logo post 21:06:24 <cverna> ryanlerch++ for logo post :) 21:06:28 <ryanlerch> mattdm requested that post to get the logo redesign infront of as many people as possible 21:06:41 <asamalik> ryanlerch: I liked the post! 21:07:03 <stickster> yeah, it's good to have the foreknowledge out there. I wish there weren't so many jerks + mean people out there who attacked mizmo about it 21:07:33 <asamalik> yeah that was terrible :/ 21:07:55 <cverna> people don't like change and they all feel that they are expert designer for some reason 21:08:06 <asamalik> #info --- How to watch for releases of upstream projects --- 21:08:10 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=24718&preview=true 21:08:29 <stickster> cverna++ so true. but we can at least help by supporting mizmo, she's doing an awesome job 21:08:51 <cverna> mizmo++ 21:08:51 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for duffy changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:08:55 <cverna> :) 21:08:59 <ryanlerch> mizmo++ 21:08:59 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for duffy changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:09:00 <asamalik> mizmo++ 21:09:02 <asamalik> :) 21:09:02 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for duffy changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:09:09 <cverna> \o/ cookies 21:09:18 <stickster> asamalik: I can volunteer to review this one and get it published! I have been missing and feel guilty 21:09:24 <stickster> mizmo++ 21:09:24 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for duffy changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:09:45 * sdgathman was going to pitch "Decentralize Electronic Business Documents with openas2" - but now have to rescue orphaned packages so openas2 doesn't disappear... 21:09:49 <stickster> COOKIE PARTY!!! đȘ đȘ đȘ 21:10:19 <asamalik> stickster++ again! can we get weekly cookies?! 21:10:36 <stickster> #action stickster review release-monitoring.org article and set up for publishing 21:10:37 <asamalik> #action stickster to edit and publish How to watch for releases of upstream projects 21:10:41 <stickster> oops! 21:10:43 <ryanlerch> weeklycookies++ 21:10:44 <asamalik> ha! 21:10:48 <stickster> *jinx 21:10:52 <asamalik> doubleaction++ 21:11:04 <stickster> asamalik: you can do the #undo :-D 21:11:13 <asamalik> lol 21:11:15 <asamalik> #undo 21:11:15 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by asamalik at 21:10:37 : stickster to edit and publish How to watch for releases of upstream projects 21:11:33 <asamalik> #info --- Flatpaking your Gnome Builder --- 21:11:38 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=24755&preview=true 21:12:16 <cverna> This is one needs a bit of editing, I think the tone is not really Magazine friendly 21:12:53 <ryanlerch> this is a first-time author that came from the comments, right? 21:13:05 <stickster> cverna: +1, it's a good article. But at times it seems like it's not sure of itself 21:13:13 <stickster> like, the article is surprised that things worked 21:13:32 <stickster> whereas we like articles to feel authoritative and confident 21:13:33 <cverna> ryanlerch: yes 21:14:08 <cverna> the screenshots are a bit small too, at least on my laptop screen 21:14:17 <stickster> Here too 21:15:11 <asamalik> I feel like the screenshots are not necessary there 21:15:22 <asamalik> I like the article, though, even it could use some editing 21:15:55 * asamalik can edit! 21:16:29 <stickster> asamalik: go for it 21:17:12 <cverna> asamalik++ 21:17:14 <asamalik> wait, I was looking at the previous one the whole time... :/ omg 21:17:19 <stickster> ha 21:17:38 <stickster> asamalik: are you still good to do this article? 21:17:42 <stickster> the flatpak one 21:18:27 <asamalik> sure, I have no experience with Builder, might learn something new 21:18:46 <asamalik> #action asamalik to edit the Flatpaking your Gnome Builder 21:18:48 * stickster will probably try this too :-D 21:19:14 <asamalik> #info --- Python 3.8 alpha in Fedora --- 21:19:19 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25128&preview=true 21:19:33 <stickster> This should be a *really* fast edit for someone 21:20:01 <asamalik> I can also do that 21:20:14 <asamalik> if no one else wants a quick win :P 21:20:34 <ryanlerch> if we are loaded with posts, this can be a quick newsy post too for ASAP release 21:21:12 * cverna can't really commit to anything this week 21:21:24 <asamalik> #action asamalik to edit Python 3.8 alpha in Fedora 21:21:29 <cverna> I have family visiting next week so my evening will be busy :) 21:21:42 <stickster> cverna: no worries, we seem to have a lot in the queue 21:21:43 * asamalik realized we're not assigning people to do images *looks at ryanlerch* 21:21:55 <stickster> asamalik: I can help with those too :-) 21:22:19 <ryanlerch> asamalik: assign them all to me! 21:22:22 * stickster will do the one for his release-monitoring one 21:22:46 <asamalik> #action stickster to make an image for How to watch for releases of upstream projects 21:23:02 <asamalik> #action ryanlerch to make an image for Flatpaking your Gnome Builder 21:23:03 <stickster> at some point Ryan or I could give a quick online tutorial about these 21:23:22 <stickster> His are *way* better than mine obviously, but I've stolen lots of good ideas from him 21:23:22 <ryanlerch> stickster: for sure 21:23:37 <asamalik> #action ryanlerch to make an image for Python 3.8 alpha in Fedora 21:23:50 <stickster> #idea stickster and ryanlerch to do some online tutorial/demo about images 21:23:59 <cverna> quick how to make image tutorial sounds good 21:24:06 <asamalik> idea++ 21:24:06 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for idea changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:24:15 <cverna> idea++ 21:24:15 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for idea changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:24:19 <stickster> I'm living proof that you don't have to be a superb artist :-D 21:24:31 * cverna love these random cookies to fas account :) 21:24:38 <stickster> hahahaha 21:24:38 <asamalik> lol 21:24:46 <asamalik> #info --- How to setup two-factor authentication for SSH on Fedora --- 21:24:51 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25138&preview=true 21:25:03 <stickster> I *LOVE* this article idea, posted to list about it too 21:25:06 <asamalik> we have too many articles! :D 21:25:17 <asamalik> yes! 21:25:24 <stickster> it's basically ready to go with some minor tweaks. I can even do the edit on this one too 21:25:56 <asamalik> and I'll do an image :D 21:26:46 <asamalik> #action stickster to edit + image the How to setup two-factor authentication for SSH on Fedora 21:26:52 <asamalik> #undo 21:26:52 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by asamalik at 21:26:46 : stickster to edit + image the How to setup two-factor authentication for SSH on Fedora 21:27:02 <asamalik> #action stickster to edit the How to setup two-factor authentication for SSH on Fedora 21:27:11 <ryanlerch> i can do the image for this one 21:27:32 <asamalik> ryanlerch: ha ok! 21:27:35 <stickster> aha, you scamp ryanlerch! 21:27:41 <asamalik> #action ryanlerch to make an image for the How to setup two-factor authentication for SSH on Fedora 21:27:49 <sdgathman> Is there any way for wretches like me to look at the previews? 21:27:54 <asamalik> that's all pending review 21:28:05 <stickster> sdgathman: yes, if you log in to the Wordpress instance I believe you can 21:28:13 <stickster> https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin 21:28:29 <asamalik> #topic Drafts to review 21:28:34 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post 21:29:14 <asamalik> #info --- Using the NetworkManagerâs DNSMasq plugin --- 21:29:17 <stickster> Holy crap, another bunch of good stuff 21:29:21 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25167&preview=true 21:29:30 <stickster> This one looks like a pitch 21:29:44 <asamalik> there's a link to the author's personal blog with the article 21:29:53 <stickster> Oh I see, it's someone's already written blog article. The link is here: http://blog.deadvax.net/2019/01/08/network-manager-and-dnsmasq-plug-in/ 21:30:09 <asamalik> how do we handle reposts? 21:31:35 <stickster> we haven't been strongly for reprinting content from other places in the past... but this is not very old, and is a good piece of work 21:31:35 <cverna> I think we just mentioned were was originally posted 21:32:02 <stickster> obviously we don't want plagiarized content, but this person is the original author 21:32:03 * cverna remember a blog post from Patrick we did repost 21:32:27 <stickster> I feel like good quality stuff is a candidate. As long as it's not there to push linkback traffic to other blogs. 21:32:45 <stickster> just my $.02, I yield to the distinguished gentlepeople 21:32:59 <cverna> +1 to what stickster said 21:33:12 <stickster> besides, we would end up making some style changes anyway 21:33:19 <stickster> so it's not full of "I" 21:33:29 <stickster> (for example) 21:33:40 <stickster> I can be +1 on this 21:33:49 * asamalik agrees with stickster 21:34:32 <asamalik> +1 and next time recommend to write original content? 21:35:03 <stickster> yeah, we could gently say "we usually don't reprint, but in this case it's really good. we'd love some additional original work from you" 21:35:09 <asamalik> I mean: "recommend to to the author to write original content for the Magazine next time" 21:35:20 <asamalik> sounds good! 21:35:29 <stickster> ryanlerch: cverna: sound reasonable to yoU? 21:35:34 <ryanlerch> +1 from me! 21:35:42 <cverna> +1 21:36:21 <asamalik> BTW we already have 4 articles for publishing.. do we just wanna keep assigning more and more? 21:36:38 <asamalik> it's a nice problem to have :) 21:37:05 <stickster> asamalik: good question. it's not bad to have things ready in advance... at the same time we can always swap something important next week if needed 21:37:35 <ryanlerch> assing and not schedule? 21:37:43 <ryanlerch> sounds like a plan to me! 21:37:58 <stickster> not sure what you just asked ryanlerch :-D 21:38:06 <asamalik> lol 21:38:07 <stickster> oh, assign 21:38:08 <stickster> sorry 21:38:12 <cverna> assign* 21:38:19 <ryanlerch> lol, sorry! 21:38:21 <stickster> I'm slow and have an evil brain 21:38:25 <stickster> bad combination 21:38:41 <cverna> it took me a second too :P 21:38:43 <ryanlerch> laggy IRC and a new keyabord is a bad combination 21:38:51 * stickster willing to take on more editing in advance. I just lost my Saturday gig 21:38:53 <asamalik> I can edit this one as well! 21:38:57 <ryanlerch> getting used to these switches 21:39:20 <stickster> my lag is bad too, you only realize then how many mistakes you make in typing and need to correct as you go 21:39:32 <stickster> asamalik++ 21:39:51 <asamalik> cookie options 21:40:01 <ryanlerch> asamalik++ 21:40:10 <asamalik> #action asamalik to edit Using the NetworkManagerâs DNSMasq plugin 21:40:51 <asamalik> #action asamalik to do an image for Using the NetworkManagerâs DNSMasq plugin 21:41:07 * stickster volunteers to edit the live CD netboot article 21:41:10 <stickster> it's really a done draft 21:41:10 <sdgathman> We need an article on running your own recursive resolver for DNS. It's the only one that can be trusted. 21:41:53 <stickster> I'm not sure whether we want to model "only trust running your own infrastructure" as our go-to position. 21:42:13 <asamalik> #info --- C# Fundamentals: Data Types and Variables --- 21:42:16 <stickster> Very few people have the time to maintain that way. Heck, we have our own problems in a paid team doing that ;-) 21:42:29 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25106&preview=true 21:42:59 <asamalik> stickster: you're skipping the queue! :D but I'll assign you to that one 21:43:04 <stickster> asamalik: hee hee 21:43:36 <stickster> asamalik: I responded on list about this second C# article as well... the author did a first one back in December IIRC. It's good to have him back to do another 21:44:19 * stickster is +1 21:44:21 <asamalik> +1 21:44:23 <asamalik> but it looks like they need more time to finish, so there is no action on this one, right? 21:44:31 <cverna> +1 too 21:44:34 <ryanlerch> +1 21:44:34 <stickster> yeah, just for us to say "approved, go for it" 21:45:08 <asamalik> #info C# Fundamentals: Data Types and Variables is approved! 21:45:17 <stickster> \o/ 21:45:24 <asamalik> #info --- Netboot a Live CD --- 21:45:29 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=24831&preview=true 21:45:38 <asamalik> #action stickster will edit the Netboot a Live CD 21:45:52 <stickster> #action stickster email C# author to pass on approval and invite them to finish draft 21:45:53 <asamalik> that was quick 21:45:59 <stickster> disco! 21:46:48 <asamalik> only if we had a good artist who could make a nice image for this one... wait! :P 21:47:12 <cverna> lol 21:47:20 <stickster> I'll take this one 21:47:20 <ryanlerch> stickster: i think he is talking about you! 21:47:28 <stickster> s/goog// 21:47:31 <stickster> er, s/good// 21:47:57 <stickster> s/good/wannabe/ ;-D 21:48:03 <asamalik> #action stickster to do an image for the Netboot a Live CD 21:48:11 <stickster> đ€ 21:48:40 <asamalik> cool! 21:48:53 <asamalik> do we wanna keep going, or do the publishing schedule now? 21:49:15 <cverna> we have 10 min left so schedule +1 21:50:05 <stickster> asamalik: cverna: ryanlerch: there's one new pitch in that queue from jwf 21:50:22 <cverna> ha so last one then :) 21:50:26 <stickster> #info --- 2 cool new apps for music tweakers --- 21:50:34 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=24896&preview=true 21:50:57 <stickster> seems like a perfectly cromulent pitch to me, +1 21:51:00 <cverna> +1 21:51:08 <ryanlerch> +1 21:51:08 <asamalik> +1 21:51:14 <ryanlerch> cromulent++ 21:51:27 <stickster> #agreed pitch approved for 2 music tweaking apps 21:51:40 <stickster> #action stickster email jwf about approval and invite draft 21:51:44 <ryanlerch> jwf++ 21:51:44 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for jflory7 changed to 10 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:51:50 <stickster> ok, go for it for schedule asamalik 21:52:14 * cverna goes to search for cromulent's definition 21:53:02 <ryanlerch> cverna: i think it has to do with eating crumpets during lent 21:53:11 <asamalik> #topic Publishing schedule 21:53:14 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri Feb 15, How to watch for releases of upstream projects (stickster:edit/stickster:image) -- Mon Feb 18, Flatpaking your Gnome Builder (asamalik:edit/ryanlerch:image) -- Wed Feb 20, Python 3.8 alpha in Fedora (asamalik:edit/ryanlerch:image) 21:53:25 <stickster> cverna: it's a joke word, I'll find you the refernce from The Simpsons 21:53:26 <asamalik> or do we wanna do the Python as an extra? 21:53:29 <cverna> haha comes from the simpsons :) 21:53:49 <stickster> cverna: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_the_Iconoclast 21:54:14 <cverna> we could do the Python as an extra 21:55:15 <stickster> asamalik: I may regret this, but we have so much... any chance to push that on Friday? 21:55:15 <asamalik> maybe tomorrow so people can play with it over the weekend? 21:55:24 <stickster> asamalik: I'll get the upstream thing ready for tomorrow 21:55:43 <stickster> asamalik: Or vice versa. The python article is shorter and would be good to do as an extra tomorrow 21:56:01 <stickster> i.e. fast edit, and maybe Ryan could whip up its image now-ish 21:56:10 <cverna> +1 for Python tomorrow(ie today for ryanlerch) 21:56:12 <stickster> I'll have mine ready for Friday no problem 21:56:21 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Thu Feb 14, Python 3.8 alpha in Fedora (asamalik:edit/ryanlerch:image) -- Fri Feb 15, How to watch for releases of upstream projects (stickster:edit/stickster:image) -- Mon Feb 18, Flatpaking your Gnome Builder (asamalik:edit/ryanlerch:image) -- Wed Feb 20, How to setup two-factor authentication for SSH on Fedora (stickster:edit/stickster:image) 21:56:36 <cverna> +1 21:56:38 <stickster> +1 on revised schedule! And I'll have both those ready and more 21:56:44 <ryanlerch> okies, asamalik you intend to edit in your morning? 21:56:53 <asamalik> I'll just do it now! 21:56:54 <ryanlerch> i can get the image done today 21:57:00 <stickster> you're a champ asamalik 21:57:15 <ryanlerch> okay, ping me when you are done, and i will add the image and publish 21:57:17 * asamalik is +1 to the revised schedule 21:57:25 <stickster> BOOM shakalaka 21:57:28 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Thu Feb 14, Python 3.8 alpha in Fedora (asamalik:edit/ryanlerch:image) -- Fri Feb 15, How to watch for releases of upstream projects (stickster:edit/stickster:image) -- Mon Feb 18, Flatpaking your Gnome Builder (asamalik:edit/ryanlerch:image) -- Wed Feb 20, How to setup two-factor authentication for SSH on Fedora (stickster:edit/stickster:image) 21:57:31 <stickster> \o/ 21:57:40 <asamalik> \o/ 21:57:48 <asamalik> ryanlerch: will do! 21:57:50 * stickster will probably work ahead so we have choices for next Friday and beyond 21:57:56 <asamalik> #topic All other business (open floor) 21:58:16 <stickster> one AOB from me... Thanks for holding down the fort while I was traveling again 22:00:08 <ryanlerch> stickster: \o/ 22:00:23 <stickster> <eof/> 22:00:33 <ryanlerch> no AOB from me 22:00:49 * cverna is half asleep already :P 22:00:53 <asamalik> sorry for missing the last meeting and thanks for assigning me something! 22:01:03 * asamalik was fully asleep last week 22:01:26 <cverna> asamalik: :D 22:01:41 <stickster> ha 22:01:53 <asamalik> if I ever miss it again without sending an apology in advance just assign me stuff! :D 22:01:57 <asamalik> all right! 22:02:11 <asamalik> I guess we're good to go to bed / other meetings / dinner / breakfasts etc? 22:02:15 <stickster> yup 22:02:16 * stickster has been staring at screen for the last 10 hours and is ready for a break 22:02:19 <asamalik> #endmeeting