12:00:45 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 12:00:45 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 29 12:00:45 2019 UTC. 12:00:45 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 12:00:45 <zodbot> The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:45 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:00:45 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 12:00:50 <stickster> #meetingname magazine 12:00:50 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 12:01:00 <stickster> #chair asamalik cverna ryanlerch 12:01:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik cverna ryanlerch stickster 12:01:05 <stickster> #topic Roll call 12:01:10 <stickster> .hello pfrields 12:01:12 <cverna> hello o/ 12:01:14 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 12:01:15 * stickster hands gavel to asamalik 12:01:16 <asamalik> .hello2 12:01:18 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com> 12:01:18 <bcotton> .hello2 12:01:20 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com> 12:01:49 <ryanlerch> .hello2 12:01:52 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com> 12:02:47 <stickster> Hey, cool, Ryan's back from Fiji! Hope you had a wonderful time :-) 12:03:34 <cverna> Fiji sounds like a wonderful time :) 12:03:41 <ryanlerch> stickster: i did! :) 12:03:58 <ryanlerch> back to the grind :D 12:04:17 <stickster> coffee! yay 12:04:39 * asamalik sips a coffee 12:04:48 <asamalik> Fiji sounds nice :) 12:04:49 <asamalik> #topic Last week's stats 12:04:56 <asamalik> #info Week of May 20: 61K pageviews -- down from the last week, we have basically missed one article, hopefully will come back up again! 12:05:15 <stickster> Yeah, we had that weird thing with the packit article 12:05:50 <stickster> I guess it came off as overplaying the simplification of packaging, but mehh 12:06:17 <asamalik> I could have done a better job verifying facts in there... although the article wasn't lying, just claiming a bit more than it was providing 12:06:39 <cverna> we have missed the F28 EOL article yesterday we should probably push it this week but I am not sure who is writting these usually 12:06:41 <asamalik> and auto-packaging is the aspiration there as I understand it 12:06:46 <asamalik> but it's been fixed and out today 12:07:04 <asamalik> cverna: ah good point! 12:08:02 <stickster> o_O oh no! 12:09:13 <stickster> I could put together an article very quickly if ryanlerch can do a quick graphic 12:09:36 <asamalik> stickster++ 12:09:37 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for pfrields changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:09:38 * jlanda did not open the magazine last week, that's the reason for the lower stats :D 12:09:40 <ryanlerch> stickster: already started the graphic 12:09:48 <stickster> ryanlerch: good man 12:09:51 <asamalik> ryanlerch++ 12:09:51 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:09:55 <asamalik> cool! 12:09:59 <cverna> lol jlanda 12:10:01 <stickster> #action stickster draw up F28 EOL article while ryanlerch does an image 12:10:26 <asamalik> #topic Pending review posts 12:10:27 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post 12:10:48 <asamalik> #info nothing in here 12:11:04 <asamalik> #topic Drafts to review 12:11:04 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post 12:11:21 <cyberpear> https://fedoramagazine.org/packit-auto-package-your-projects-into-fedora/ 404s with the link from @fedora twitter stream https://twitter.com/fedora/status/1131926434560270337?s=19 12:12:14 <asamalik> cyberpear: ah! thanks for noticing 12:12:44 <cyberpear> I kept coming back to it and it was broken every time 12:13:19 <asamalik> cyberpear: we had to do some changes in the article — including the title — and that changed the URL, too 12:13:33 <stickster> cyberpear: I'll do a new tweet to point to the corrected article 12:13:36 * asamalik haven't realized there was a tweet already 12:13:40 <asamalik> stickster: thanks! 12:13:53 <stickster> yep, I typically send them in the morning when I first sit down if an article's been pushed 12:14:21 <cyberpear> 👍 12:14:45 <asamalik> ok, back to drafts 12:15:21 <asamalik> #info --- f31 supplemental wallpapers --- 12:15:26 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=28052&preview=true 12:16:11 <asamalik> "The submission phase opens June 3, 2019" — so I guess we could publish it on Monday 12:16:35 <cverna> +1 12:17:25 <asamalik> I could do the editing 12:17:58 <stickster> asamalik: That sounds like a plan 12:18:37 <stickster> ryanlerch: FYI, I'm almost done with the draft 12:18:47 <asamalik> cool 12:19:05 <asamalik> #action asamalik to edit the f31 supplemental wallpapers article 12:19:38 <asamalik> #info --- FFSend available for Fedora --- 12:19:53 * asamalik #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25821&preview=true 12:20:06 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25821&preview=true 12:20:25 <ryanlerch> stickster: image in the gallery now. 12:20:42 <stickster> Thanks ryanlerch 12:21:01 <stickster> Hmm, I need to do a quick virt install so I can get a desktop screenshot. I don't see an easily accessible one in the gallery 12:21:28 <asamalik> stickster: I think I have a VM, hang on 12:21:48 <stickster> asamalik: On this article... it's been in "hold" state for some time. I don't think at this point the author is committed to finish it as we asked, so either someone would need to pick it up, or we drop it. 12:22:16 <asamalik> stickster: the problem here was that it wasn't demonstrating the Fedora package enough, right? 12:22:36 <asamalik> stickster: have an f29 VM booted up... do you only want the desktop? 12:22:37 <stickster> I believe so. There's a thread on the list about it IIRC 12:22:49 <asamalik> stickster: or some app on it? 12:23:03 <stickster> asamalik: it's 28 we're worried about, right? 12:23:16 <stickster> am I off by one? 12:23:32 <stickster> asamalik: You run the meeting, I'll worry about this ;-) 12:23:37 <asamalik> omg.. I'm off by one release and two cups of coffee :) 12:23:37 <cverna> nope F28 is the one :) 12:24:02 <cverna> so the FFSend article is stuck I think ? 12:24:21 <asamalik> cverna: yes 12:24:34 <cverna> :( 12:24:41 <stickster> yeah, see comment above... 12:24:45 <asamalik> anyone here wants to finish it? 12:25:10 * cverna looks at what needed to be done 12:25:44 <asamalik> cverna: probably some the ffsend CLI 12:26:00 <asamalik> it only mentions the installation 12:26:36 <stickster> *nod 12:27:54 <cverna> I can try to finish it for next week 12:28:15 <asamalik> cverna++ 12:28:46 <asamalik> #action cverna to finish the FFSend available for Fedora article for next week 12:29:21 <asamalik> #info --- How To replace docker with podman --- 12:29:25 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=27425&preview=true 12:29:42 <asamalik> this one is stuck as well and feels more like a pitch.. do we want to move it to pitches? 12:29:53 * asamalik doesn't remember much about this one 12:31:19 <stickster> This was an unsolicited pitch, and IIRC we made suggestions to the author and 12:31:24 <cverna> yes lets move to pitches 12:31:25 <stickster> ...didn't see a response from them 12:31:36 <stickster> It would be a fun article for someone to write though 12:31:43 <stickster> as it's pretty easy ;-) 12:31:56 <asamalik> yeah :) 12:31:59 <asamalik> ok moving to pitches 12:33:22 <asamalik> there are a few more like this.. I'll move them offline later 12:33:35 <asamalik> #topic Pitches to approve 12:33:35 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post 12:34:01 <stickster> Hmm, I hope there's something here 12:34:25 <cverna> not much :( 12:34:46 <asamalik> #info --- Systemd Boot: A Simple Boot Loader --- 12:34:52 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=27928&preview=true 12:34:57 <asamalik> have we talked about this one? 12:36:36 <cverna> I don't think 12:36:36 <stickster> This was one we agreed to nix, because we don't want to recommend alternate (unsupported) boot loaders to folks 12:36:55 <stickster> I want to say that was about 3 weeks ago? maybe 4? 12:37:13 <cverna> ha :) 12:37:43 <asamalik> ah! should I trash it then? 12:37:57 <cverna> +1 12:39:05 <ryanlerch> +1 12:39:22 <stickster> agreed 12:39:30 <asamalik> on it 12:39:43 <asamalik> I don't think we have any more of new pitches 12:40:07 <asamalik> #topic Additional article inputs 12:40:16 <asamalik> so we have an article for Monday and Wednesday 12:40:24 <stickster> Nothing for this Friday then? 12:40:28 <asamalik> we should come up with something for Friday 12:40:29 <asamalik> yeah 12:40:48 <stickster> I have the EOL article basically ready, will push it in just a few minutes but that doesn't count ;-) 12:41:14 <asamalik> stickster: nice! 12:41:36 <cverna> I might be able to finish the FFsend for friday otherwise 12:41:52 <cverna> I ll try to work on it later today 12:43:49 <stickster> That would be great cverna 12:44:03 <stickster> ryanlerch: Maybe we can hit you up for some ideas in advance for next week 12:44:03 <ryanlerch> io can do the image for that one tomorrow too 12:44:35 <ryanlerch> yeah, will get at least one pitch, maybe more in for next week 12:44:54 <ryanlerch> will have a one-person brainstorming session :) 12:45:02 <asamalik> ryanlerch: that would be great! 12:45:20 <stickster> asamalik: I sent out updated twitter/FB for the packit post 12:45:32 <stickster> Please everyone RT/share/etc. 12:45:35 <asamalik> stickster: thanks! 12:45:51 <asamalik> #topic Publishing schedule 12:46:40 <stickster> mboddu: Hey, if you're around... in future, can you touch base with Magazine people about EOL announcement? That way we can send an article out on the Magazine 12:46:58 <stickster> feel free to work that into rel-eng schedule however you see fit 12:48:07 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Friday 31 May, FFSend available for Fedora (cverna:edit/ryahlerch:image) -- Monday 3 June , f31 supplemental wallpapers (asamalik) -- Wednesday 5, ??? (ryahlerch) 12:48:32 <cverna> +1 12:49:04 <stickster> #info stickster has pushed the F28 EOL article 12:49:17 <bcotton> stickster++ 12:51:50 <stickster> asamalik: +1 12:52:11 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Friday 31 May, FFSend available for Fedora (cverna:edit/ryahlerch:image) -- Monday 3 June, f31 supplemental wallpapers (asamalik) -- Wednesday 5, ??? (ryahlerch) 12:52:21 <asamalik> #topic All other business (open floor) 12:52:54 * stickster owes a post on writing for the magazine, IIRC 12:53:15 <stickster> I can try to complete that in the next few days. There's a lot going on but we could use contributors 12:54:06 <ryanlerch> asamalik: should we talk taiga? 12:54:10 <asamalik> that would be really nice 12:54:19 <stickster> we have some great contributors who've come in recently, and also with some good ideas 12:54:30 <asamalik> I could review all the contributor docs to make sure they're clear and easy to read 12:54:53 <asamalik> ryanlerch: sure! although I just sent it this morning so wanted to give more time to people to react on the list 12:55:01 <stickster> at the same time, a bunch of folks showing up only wanting to do their thing, their way... and then having our feedback fall flat... that's less helpful 12:55:06 <ryanlerch> asamalik: ack! agreed! 12:55:34 <asamalik> ryanlerch: ok cool! 12:56:10 <ryanlerch> should we encourage list discussions for new pitches / contributors a little more 12:56:15 <asamalik> do we want to think about other types of content we could publish on the magazine? We only do original content these days... 12:56:23 <stickster> ryanlerch: Yeah, for sure 12:56:32 <stickster> asamalik: Like printing other news bits? 12:56:43 <ryanlerch> sometimes we get ghost pitches, and its hard to contact / discuss or jhust done in private email 12:56:47 <asamalik> ... but what about, time to time, when there is something interesting out there, we could do a quick digest of it and a link... 12:57:08 <ryanlerch> asamalik: yeah i usually prattle on about newsy posts 12:57:18 <asamalik> ... so the magazine would serve as a good resource of well-curated news not just written originally for the magazine. 12:57:22 <stickster> Yeah, that's a big +1 from me 12:57:37 <ryanlerch> but keeping a pulst on everything is time-consuming and i usually get overwhemled 12:57:56 <ryanlerch> but yeah, short linky news posts is a +1 from me 12:58:03 <asamalik> Less pressure on us to produce a certain quantity could also help us write content of even higher quality! 12:58:09 <stickster> ryanlerch: ack, we should all feel free to throw a ten-minute post together for something like this. Don't worry about a 300-word minimum, SEO crap, or anything like that 12:58:25 <stickster> Just some straightforward summary and a couple links 12:58:30 <ryanlerch> stickster: or just hit the list with tips! 12:58:43 <ryanlerch> even if you dont have time to write! 12:58:46 <ryanlerch> :D 12:59:01 <asamalik> yeah.. like "We feel this is relevant for you because <reasons> and now you can decide if you want to read it or not. <link>" 12:59:53 <ryanlerch> the new gnome upstream releases is the closest thing we regulary do for "newsy" posts 13:00:29 <cverna> yes we could try to do a bit more Gnome things, a bit like the shortcut article 13:00:44 <cverna> how to X in Gnome 13:00:48 <cverna> do* 13:00:58 <stickster> cverna++ great idea. 13:01:04 <stickster> ryanlerch: Yes! 13:01:24 * stickster should set up RSS for some things. I haven't really pruned a reader for a while 13:01:33 <stickster> Oh crap, I'm due for a meeting right now 13:01:44 <ryanlerch> yeah, i kinda stopped when google reader died 13:02:02 <stickster> I went to feedly but I gave up on it months ago 13:02:45 <ryanlerch> hit the list if you have a newsy tip! :) 13:03:09 <stickster> #info Hit list with newsy tips please! 13:03:17 <ryanlerch> we should also get back into the FF releases too 13:03:39 <ryanlerch> we used to cover them each upstream release 13:03:46 * stickster will go dark, but asamalik I guess is closing out here -- I guess there's no one waiting for the meeting room right now? 13:03:58 <stickster> ryanlerch: *that* is also an excellent point 13:03:59 <asamalik> I also need to go! Already in another meeting 13:04:04 * asamalik is terrible in multitasking 13:04:11 <cverna> thanks all 13:04:18 <stickster> that's why I never bother :-D 13:04:25 * ryanlerch has a appoinintment with zzz's 13:04:26 <asamalik> ok thanks all and let's talk about the newsy stuff and other ideas on the list! :) 13:04:30 <stickster> +100 13:04:36 <cverna> ryanlerch: good night :) 13:04:47 <ryanlerch> asamalik: +100 000 13:04:59 <ryanlerch> asamalik++ 13:04:59 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for asamalik changed to 7 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:05:04 <ryanlerch> stickster++ 13:05:04 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for pfrields changed to 5 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:05:09 <ryanlerch> cverna++ 13:05:10 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for cverna changed to 8 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:05:18 <ryanlerch> night! 13:05:19 <cverna> cookies :) 13:05:23 <cverna> ryanlerch++ 13:05:27 <cverna> #endmeeting