13:00:39 <asamalik> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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13:00:39 <asamalik> #meetingname magazine
13:00:39 <asamalik> #topic Roll call
13:00:39 <asamalik> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew bcotton misc rwaltr
13:00:39 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine'
13:00:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew misc rwaltr ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
13:00:46 <asamalik> .hello2
13:00:47 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
13:01:00 <gregbartholomew> .hello glb
13:01:01 <zodbot> gregbartholomew: glb 'Gregory Lee Bartholomew' <gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com>
13:01:43 <stickster> .hello pfrields
13:01:44 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
13:02:03 <cverna> hello
13:03:34 <stickster> o/ hi all. are we good to go?
13:03:43 <asamalik> hey everyone!
13:03:52 <asamalik> stickster: I think so!
13:04:01 <asamalik> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
13:04:08 <asamalik> #info Week of Jan 6: 52.4k pageviews -- below average, but up from last week which was a long-time minimum... we have missed a few posts recently
13:05:20 <stickster> Hopefully things can get back on the regular routine now that holidays are truly in the rear view mirror
13:05:48 <asamalik> yep!
13:05:57 <asamalik> #topic 2/ In progress followup
13:06:02 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
13:06:02 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:06:08 <asamalik> there is a lot in progress!
13:06:47 <asamalik> #128 moved to in progress just a few days back
13:07:05 <asamalik> #48 is there over a month
13:07:26 * stickster looks
13:07:54 <stickster> On #128, bgilbert was having login problems last night, did they get resolved?
13:09:00 <asamalik> stickster: oh, looking, and probably not
13:10:09 <asamalik> I can look into that after the meeting!
13:10:21 <stickster> asamalik: I'm checking now, no worries
13:10:54 <cverna> we can probably ping a few author for the cards that are in progress
13:11:17 <cverna> otherwise they might not know that we are waiting on them
13:11:51 <asamalik> commented in #46
13:12:02 <asamalik> cverna: yep!
13:13:18 <asamalik> #101 — also over a month, I'll comment
13:13:24 <stickster> Shall we divide and conquer?
13:14:04 <asamalik> sure, what if we post the number here first and then comment?
13:14:33 <asamalik> I probably wouldn't move anything back as it's after the holidays, people remembering what was going on last year :D
13:15:28 <asamalik> #109
13:15:30 <stickster> Yup, I just did #109
13:15:53 <stickster> #122 on GSConnect -- just commented to 'lowkeyskywalker' who had claimed it back in December
13:15:58 <asamalik> I'll go from the bottom
13:17:00 <asamalik> did #123 and now #99
13:17:10 <stickster> #90... the draft article GDoc looks OK to be input into WP, just needs some photos, will comment
13:17:13 <rwaltr> .hello2
13:17:14 <zodbot> rwaltr: rwaltr 'Ryan W Walter' <rwalt@pm.me>
13:17:58 <stickster> o/
13:18:07 <cverna> rwaltr: hello
13:18:14 <rwaltr> o/ howdy yall
13:18:21 <gregbartholomew> o/ Ryan
13:18:22 <stickster> I think that covered all of them asamalik
13:18:32 <asamalik> stickster: cool!
13:18:45 <asamalik> hey there!
13:18:59 <asamalik> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review
13:19:04 <gregbartholomew> Was #26 meant to be in the "covered" list?
13:19:07 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback.
13:19:07 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:19:32 <rwaltr> I just wanted to pop in since y'all shot me a comment on the stardic. post. First post is uploaded
13:19:39 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: that's not in progress for that long, so I didn't ping in the card
13:19:44 <rwaltr> Draft*
13:20:08 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: but you can definitely update us here :)
13:20:16 <stickster> Actually it's been there since September, I just dropped a comment in as well
13:20:31 <stickster> That may be ready to edit!
13:20:32 <gregbartholomew> Ah, I think it is ready for at least a preliminary review by the editors.
13:20:36 <stickster> Let's move it
13:20:46 * stickster moves #26 to review
13:20:54 <asamalik> ok cool!
13:21:15 <gregbartholomew> I did write it up fairly quickly, so if you want to send it back for further modification, that's fine.
13:21:28 <stickster> #info bgilbert's problem is solved so #128 should be forthcoming
13:21:44 <asamalik> stickster++
13:22:14 <gregbartholomew> I jumped on #26 thinking it would be something I could do quickly for the magazine when I saw some calls for more articles on the mail list.
13:22:14 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: looks great at a first glance
13:22:24 <asamalik> I'll be happy to review and edit
13:23:03 <asamalik> #action asamalik review and edit #26
13:23:07 <gregbartholomew> Great.
13:23:48 <asamalik> #108 got some feedback on the list
13:24:16 <stickster> indeed!
13:25:03 <asamalik> I'll comment and move it to in progress
13:26:02 <stickster> +1
13:26:04 <asamalik> done
13:26:29 <stickster> #128 will almost certainly be coming shortly, it's an announcement of Fedora CoreOS going to stable!
13:26:29 <asamalik> and that's all
13:26:38 <asamalik> excellent!
13:26:49 <asamalik> #topic 4/ Articles to edit
13:26:50 <stickster> rwaltr: any chance you'll be able to get a draft for #109 in?
13:26:56 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
13:26:56 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:27:24 <asamalik> nothing here at the moment, but I should move #26 there soon
13:27:34 <rwaltr> Likely on Sunday, this month has been very busy for me.
13:28:03 <asamalik> so we should have #26, hopefully #128, and maybe #109?
13:28:34 <asamalik> rwaltr++
13:29:01 <asamalik> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule
13:30:05 <gregbartholomew> Sounds good to me.
13:31:22 <asamalik> so what about this?
13:31:24 <asamalik> Fri 17 Jan 2020: #26 How to partition your disk manually for Fedora (image: TBD, edit: asamalik)
13:31:24 <asamalik> Mon 20 Jan 2020: #128 Fedora CoreOS Out of Preview (image: TBD, edit: TBD)
13:31:24 <asamalik> Wed 22 Jan 2020: #109 Setup an offline command line dictionary (image: TBD, edit: TBD)
13:31:54 <stickster> That seems pretty cool to me... btw, I can do the edit/image on the article rwaltr is writing, and probably bgilbert's too
13:31:59 <asamalik> any volunteers to edit/image some of those? (if there is TBD, it needs a volunteer)
13:32:03 <stickster> I have a vested interest in the latter :-)
13:32:16 <stickster> I'm happy to let someone else do either though
13:32:24 <gregbartholomew> looks good to me.
13:32:34 <asamalik> I'll take the image for #26 too
13:32:34 <gregbartholomew> asamalik: feel free to edit #26 liberally.
13:32:42 <cverna> I can edit the CoreOS if you want
13:33:00 <stickster> cverna: You're on
13:33:02 <gregbartholomew> it might be a bit wordy in some sections
13:34:14 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 17 Jan 2020: #26 How to partition your disk manually for Fedora (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) -- Mon 20 Jan 2020: #128 Fedora CoreOS Out of Preview (image: stickster, edit: cverna) -- Wed 22 Jan 2020: #109 Setup an offline command line dictionary (image: stickster, edit: stickster)
13:34:50 <cverna> +1
13:35:07 <stickster> +1
13:35:11 <gregbartholomew> +1
13:35:19 <asamalik> +1
13:35:24 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 17 Jan 2020: #26 How to partition your disk manually for Fedora (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) -- Mon 20 Jan 2020: #128 Fedora CoreOS Out of Preview (image: stickster, edit: cverna) -- Wed 22 Jan 2020: #109 Setup an offline command line dictionary (image: stickster, edit: stickster)
13:35:27 <asamalik> \o/
13:35:33 <stickster> asamalik: with one caveat... we might want to reverse #128 and #26 depending on when bgilbert gets done
13:35:47 <stickster> we can leave that "tbd"
13:35:52 <gregbartholomew> it's all cool with me :)
13:35:58 <asamalik> stickster: absolutely, we can coordinate that on list
13:36:02 <stickster> That way the 'hotter news' stays hot
13:36:06 <asamalik> yep
13:37:00 <asamalik> all right!
13:37:01 <asamalik> #topic 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve
13:37:04 <asamalik> #info Review the the article proposals and decide about what's next — a new article spec? more discussion?
13:37:04 <asamalik> #link Article proposals: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issues
13:37:56 <asamalik> #info #50 How to set up VNC in Fedora 31
13:37:59 <asamalik> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/50
13:38:25 <asamalik> (btw if anyone has anything for open floor, just stop me and we can go there, and do proposals async!)
13:39:29 <stickster> asamalik: I have an open floor topic
13:39:59 <asamalik> #topic 7/ Open floor
13:40:01 <asamalik> stickster: all yours!
13:40:27 <stickster> It concerns staffing Magazine and also project changes. As you know, we have a new FCAIC, and my understanding is she is trying to pull together marketing, website, etc. work together
13:41:15 <stickster> I think it would be worth reaching out to her to discuss how she sees Magazine fittihng into the overall plan of advertising and cheerleading for Fedora
13:42:44 <asamalik> there is a Council face-to-face meeting right after DevConf.cz in Brno, I'll be there
13:43:00 <asamalik> but otherwise we could do that as a thread on our list and cc her?
13:43:44 <stickster> As a side, issue, my role is changing a bit at Red Hat and I'm worried it will leave me short on time to do things with Magazine, but I don't want to just go away without having the Magazine at least in the view for someone in Fedora space that can give advice from a leadership position if it's needed
13:44:36 <stickster> Yeah, both the thread and the Council meeting seem like fine ideas. I won't be at Council because I have staff meetings going on
13:44:48 <stickster> Also I'm not in the Council, so :-D
13:46:08 <asamalik> oh, well, congrats to the new role and new adventures!
13:46:29 <asamalik> I'll be there as the Minimization person, but happy to talk Magazine, too!
13:47:17 <asamalik> stickster: I feel like you put a lot of effort and love into Magazine, hopefully we'll be able to keep it running!
13:47:49 <stickster> I'm sure I'll still be able to do something here and there, no need to disappear instantly. But I wanted to give fair warning that it might be harder for me to pick up things regularly every week
13:48:04 <stickster> But at the same time... that leaves room for more people to pitch in, learn, and help
13:48:21 <asamalik> stickster: do you want to start the thread? or should I?
13:48:26 <stickster> I can do it
13:48:59 <asamalik> thanks!
13:49:35 <cverna> in general it would be good to onboard a few more editors to help with the day to day tasks
13:49:41 <asamalik> our last call to contribute helped us to get a bunch of content. Maybe we could do something similar, focusing on editors?
13:49:49 <asamalik> cverna: yep! :D
13:50:51 <cverna> I think it sounds a bit scary to be come an editor, so we should try to reassure people that we can help them at the beginning :)
13:53:30 <asamalik> yeah, I remember when I started contributing, I didn't really know how it all works and I was actually fascinated by how it's all organised.. cverna maybe we could write something about that
13:55:37 <cverna> asamalik: yes possibly, we could also have kind of pairing/buddy system, where we pair an experienced editor with someone that wants to get started
13:56:11 <cverna> just so they have something to ping, ask question etc ...
13:56:17 <asamalik> that sounds great, too
13:56:39 <asamalik> yeah let's think about it and maybe discuss on the list / next time
13:56:43 <stickster> Yeah, it can seem like a much bigger deal than it is
13:57:02 <stickster> So the buddy system helps build confidence that yes, you can do this!
13:57:22 <stickster> #action stickster email list + Marie about Magazine planning (DONE)
13:57:41 <gregbartholomew> A list of exactly what being an editor entails would be a good start I think.
13:58:05 <stickster> gregbartholomew: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/editorial/
13:58:57 <gregbartholomew> stickster: thanks, I'll have a look at that and consider taking on the additional responsibilities. :)
13:59:17 <stickster> 👍
13:59:19 <asamalik> gregbartholomew you'd be very welcome!
13:59:27 <asamalik> all right, I think that's all we have time for today
13:59:33 <stickster> Yep. Time to run off to a meeting!
13:59:39 <asamalik> thanks for coming!
13:59:43 <cverna> thanks all
13:59:50 <asamalik> meetings++
13:59:54 <asamalik> #endmeeting