12:00:00 <jakfrost> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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12:00:17 <jakfrost> #meetingname magazine
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12:00:34 <jakfrost> #topic Roll call
12:02:21 <jakfrost> #chair stickster cverna jakfrost rwaltr misc
12:02:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: cverna jakfrost misc rwaltr stickster
12:02:21 <stickster> .hello pfrields
12:02:23 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
12:02:42 <jakfrost> .hello ssnow
12:02:43 <zodbot> jakfrost: ssnow 'None' <stevensnow@bmts.com>
12:03:10 <jakfrost> #topic Agenda
12:03:25 <jakfrost> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
12:03:29 <stickster> I guess it's going to be one of those non-quorum meetings :-)
12:03:48 <jakfrost> Sorry, please elaborate
12:05:09 <jakfrost> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
12:05:32 <jakfrost> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
12:05:57 <jakfrost> oops sorry meant this...
12:05:59 <jakfrost> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
12:08:16 <jakfrost> #info Week of April 6: 55.455K pageviews -- Down 1.82% from same week previous year
12:10:01 <jakfrost> I think this is likely due to the thin content lately
12:10:39 <jakfrost> stickster: any comments?
12:10:57 <stickster> 1.82% isn't too much to be worried about
12:11:05 <stickster> It'd be better to be up 5-10% though
12:11:11 <jakfrost> I agree, to both
12:11:25 <jakfrost> moving on then
12:11:48 <jakfrost> #topic 2/ In progress followup
12:11:59 <stickster> Frankly I think part of the content issue is probably due to people being stressed or out of sorts on their time management due to dealing with changes to their work/life routines
12:12:22 <jakfrost> stickster +1
12:12:49 <jakfrost> Life is strange right now
12:13:01 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
12:13:52 <jakfrost> I see #144 and # 145 are in progress, how is that going? anyone talk with the author
12:14:50 * stickster looks
12:15:47 <jakfrost> #145 seems further along
12:15:59 <stickster> Looks like neither has moved in some time.
12:16:26 <stickster> Yeah, you can tell by the last modified date in the posts list
12:16:48 <stickster> #action stickster leave comments for #144 and #145 to see what to expect
12:17:02 <jakfrost> stickster +
12:17:45 <jakfrost> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review
12:18:06 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'review' column ...
12:18:23 <stickster> Hmm, card was out of date, I just moved one of them
12:18:27 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:18:39 <jakfrost> Yes, the jscript article?
12:19:11 <stickster> yup
12:19:13 <jakfrost> I don't see GLB here,
12:19:22 <stickster> Looks like glb's article is ready though :-)
12:20:04 <jakfrost> I does so
12:20:48 <stickster> I can definintely take the editing on this one and get it scheduled. I may hold it until Monday if we don't have any other content to go out between now and next Wednesday.
12:20:48 <jakfrost> should we move it to edit?
12:20:53 <stickster> Yeah
12:20:59 <stickster> Feel free to assign to me!
12:23:46 <jakfrost> #topic 4/ Articles to edit
12:24:05 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column ...
12:24:20 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:25:01 <jakfrost> assign stickster to edit #157 - Play Stadia Games
12:25:36 <jakfrost> I think the image is okay
12:25:42 <stickster> I do too!
12:26:07 <jakfrost> The #108 article went out today...
12:26:25 <jakfrost> Was the image okay with it?
12:27:44 <jakfrost> Well there isn't more in the review area so moving on...
12:27:46 <jakfrost> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule
12:27:59 <stickster> The text on the image is likely going to have three problems: 1. hard to read at thumbnail size (e.g. on Facebook/Twitter posts); 2. Not sure if this is a free font; 3. it may be outside the "gutters" for thumbnails
12:28:09 <stickster> But what's done is done.
12:28:59 <jakfrost> I know it doesn't quite meet the usual standards, this has been a difficult story to get published
12:29:13 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns
12:30:01 <jakfrost> I guess stickster has the only editing to do this week
12:30:04 <stickster> :-)
12:31:01 <jakfrost> So let's move on to publishing the schedule if no one minds
12:31:03 <stickster> One thing that editors should probably keep in mind and agree on is that we don't have to publish every submission, either. Sometimes it's OK to say 'no' if something's not meeting the bar
12:32:08 <jakfrost> stickster: I agree with that, I find it is difficult to turn away content when we seem starved for it, and I really thought that the concept was sound
12:34:33 <stickster> Yeah, I think in some cases we get contribution that has a good idea but the execution gets harder.
12:34:40 <stickster> It happens :-)
12:35:28 <stickster> We can go forward with publishing schedule
12:36:04 <jakfrost> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE:
12:36:04 <jakfrost> Moday April 20, #157 Play Stadia Games from Fedora (stickster:edit/stickster:image) --
12:36:16 <jakfrost> did I get that right?
12:36:27 <jakfrost> Missing n
12:37:47 <jakfrost> #topic 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve
12:38:50 <jakfrost> so I was thinking that someone should do an article about using pods with podman. nudge stickster...
12:39:24 <stickster> That doesn't seem like a terrible idea to me
12:39:49 <jakfrost> Or an article on the .basrc file and what should be in there
12:39:56 <jakfrost> .bashrc
12:40:10 <jakfrost> sorry my keyboard needs the crumbs removed
12:40:58 <stickster> Might be a good idea to capture these ideas in the proposals queue? Change can be unsettling, including when a manager moves on. But Jim and Leigh have consistently and proactively built a strong team as co-managers, based on open communication and genuine respect and care for all team members. They have a shared vision for CPE to be healthy and effective, and have been quickly bringing our new
12:41:04 <stickster> colleague Ant Carroll into the fold. So this vision continues even with Jim moving on.
12:41:15 <stickster> Oops, my paste is bad, please ignore
12:42:10 <jakfrost> I can try to capture some of my ideas in the proposal area, I have a few
12:42:12 <stickster> https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issues
12:42:22 <stickster> Have we been through that queue recently? ^
12:42:26 <jakfrost> I didn't know there was changes afoot
12:42:40 <jakfrost> I think last meeting but let's do it again
12:43:13 <stickster> https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/67
12:43:22 <stickster> "The purpose would be to write an article around:
12:43:23 <stickster> https://www.linode.com/community/questions/11143/top-tip-firewalld-and-ipset-country-blacklist
12:43:25 <stickster> Let's face it, especially for home users MOST countries have no business trying to connect to your network. I use a combination of fail2ban and then ban entire countries for the worst offenders."
12:45:01 <stickster> This is an interesting problem, what do you think jakfrost ?
12:45:33 <jakfrost> Interesting to say the least
12:45:45 <jakfrost> I wasn't aware of the issue
12:46:40 <jakfrost> That would be a good article to get moving forward with
12:47:46 <stickster> jakfrost: You can leave a +1 or a "LGTM" in the issue to agree with the concept
12:47:55 <stickster> I'm happy to do the same
12:48:31 <stickster> Once we have at least two +1, we can probably:
12:48:37 <stickster> (1) ask the idea contributor if they want to write it
12:48:52 <stickster> (2) make a kanban card, and ask them to join the Taiga so we can add them to the authoring team
12:49:01 <stickster> I think that's the order of operatiosn.
12:50:42 <jakfrost> Okay, I agreed with it in a comment, couldn't give a +1
12:51:28 <stickster> jakfrost: Even just saying "+1" is your +1 :-)
12:51:52 <stickster> There's no system or button for it specifically -- just comment based, if that makes sense
12:52:18 <jakfrost> Sure just edited my comment.
12:52:37 <stickster> What else is in the queue?
12:52:50 <stickster> https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/62
12:52:54 <stickster> "I propose to explain how fedora server can become a mac address manager that manage access to the network via FreeRadius(https://freeradius.org/), FreeIPA(https://www.freeipa.org/page/Main_Page) and vmam(https://matteoguadrini.github.io/vmam/).
12:53:37 <stickster> This is completely outside my ken -- don't know anything about vmam, and only a little more about the others
12:53:58 <stickster> It also looks like the idea person is the person who makes vmam. So it's kind of advertising a pet project maybe?
12:54:17 <jakfrost> Yeah, not my area at all
12:54:20 <stickster> And not sure what the Fedora angle is here.
12:54:50 <jakfrost> Don't see a direct Fedora POV just circuspect
12:54:54 <jakfrost> Don't see a direct Fedora POV just circumspect
12:55:34 <stickster> I left a comment -- it doesn't seem to be packaged in Fedora. That's not a complete no-go for an article. But it might weigh a little on whether this is just an advertisement vs. something helpful for Fedora users
12:55:57 <jakfrost> https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/56
12:56:17 <jakfrost> An article for Fedora users running stuff in containers, showing them how they can make their containers smaller with a few tips:
12:56:47 <jakfrost> I think this is an article worth having
12:56:54 <stickster> We can always use more articles on container technologies. This seems less generic than the previous one (which was some time ago)
12:56:58 <stickster> +1 from me
12:58:12 <jakfrost> https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/40
12:58:37 <jakfrost> This is a howto on extending an LVM
12:59:01 <jakfrost> It looks like it had alot of watchers, then didn't move forward
12:59:03 <stickster> Ahh, this is one that we thought would be a great idea but IIRC the author wasn't able to follow through to do it
12:59:13 <stickster> If someone wanted to take it up, it would be a slam dunk
12:59:21 <stickster> jakfrost: So if you're feeling ambitious... ;-)
12:59:48 <stickster> This is one that's easy to try and test on a VM guest
13:00:25 <jakfrost> I might can take a look, I have the option of a limited capability bare metal box to try it with or VM as noted
13:00:30 <stickster> Either way, I need to fly the coop -- I have a seminar starting right now that I need to attend!
13:00:42 <stickster> jakfrost: Are you OK to close the meeting and send notes to the list?
13:00:53 <jakfrost> Okay, thanks for helping me through
13:01:00 <stickster> jakfrost: Thank you for running the meeting! You did a very good job. :-)
13:01:00 <jakfrost> yes
13:01:26 <jakfrost> #topic 7/ Open floor
13:01:39 <jakfrost> #endmeeting