12:00:21 <asamalik> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 12:00:21 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 6 12:00:21 2020 UTC. 12:00:21 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 12:00:21 <zodbot> The chair is asamalik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:21 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:00:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 12:00:21 <asamalik> #meetingname magazine 12:00:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 12:00:21 <asamalik> #topic Roll call 12:00:34 <asamalik> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew bcotton jakfrost misc rwaltr 12:00:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr ryanlerch stickster sub_pop 12:00:38 <asamalik> .hello2 12:00:40 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com> 12:00:55 <bcotton> .hello2 12:00:55 <stickster> .hello pfrields 12:00:56 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com> 12:00:59 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 12:01:00 <jakfrost> \me Stephen Snow hello 12:01:19 * jakfrost hello Stephen Snow 12:02:34 <stickster> wheee off to the races! 12:03:03 <asamalik> #topic 1/ Last week's stats 12:03:28 <asamalik> I feel this one will be good! let me check 12:04:32 <asamalik> #info Week of 27 April: 158.2k pageviews -- yay Fedora 32 and Lenovo! 12:05:28 <stickster> Woohoo! 12:05:41 * jakfrost cheers 12:05:41 <asamalik> what a happy Wednesday today! 12:05:47 <bcotton> proposed #agreed we'll do a release and a hardware vendor announcment every week ;-) 12:05:52 <stickster> lol 12:06:03 <asamalik> bcotton: can... of course you were faster :D 12:06:20 <asamalik> +158.2k 12:06:47 <asamalik> #topic 2/ In progress followup 12:06:51 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban 12:07:05 <asamalik> 5 pieces in progress! 12:07:48 <asamalik> looks like #145 is stuck now for almost a month 12:08:20 <asamalik> #158 is fresh and in progress 12:08:50 <asamalik> #165 about 1 1/2 weeks in progress 12:08:57 <stickster> Let's wait to decide about #145 because in all-other-business we might decide to change the workflow slightly 12:09:39 <asamalik> #164 wants feedback! 12:09:48 <stickster> I can ping #165 12:09:59 <stickster> #action stickster ping card #165 for author progress 12:10:08 <asamalik> and #156 is fresh enough to just let be 12:10:17 <asamalik> stickster: thanks! 12:10:49 <stickster> Someone care to edit #164 then? 12:11:11 * stickster moves to 'review' status 12:11:33 * asamalik is just looking at it 12:11:49 <asamalik> yeah I think it looks good! 12:11:52 <asamalik> happy to take it 12:12:05 <bcotton> i can take 164 12:12:13 <asamalik> excellent! 12:12:39 <stickster> #action bcotton edit firewalld article #164 12:12:43 <stickster> do you need help with an image bcotton ? 12:12:46 <asamalik> thanks bcotton! 12:13:13 <bcotton> stickster: i'll give it a try and ask for help on the list if i can't make something work 12:14:09 <asamalik> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review 12:14:29 <stickster> I moved #164 to this column 12:14:36 <asamalik> yep, and there's two more 12:15:00 <stickster> asamalik: There are not cards for these, but I see three new Silverblue articles in the Magazine WP site that are surprises 12:15:01 <asamalik> #169 looks good to me, we should probably send it out ASAP 12:15:11 <asamalik> oh interesting 12:15:13 <stickster> Anyone know how those came to be? 12:15:21 <asamalik> nope 12:15:23 <jakfrost> I did a little editing last week on #169, I think it is ready, but may need an image 12:15:37 <stickster> .fas nickhardiman 12:15:38 <zodbot> stickster: nickhardiman 'Nick Hardiman' <nick.hardiman@me.com> 12:15:39 <asamalik> but I'm happy for having those I guess! 12:15:53 <stickster> .fasinfo nickhardiman 12:15:54 <zodbot> stickster: User: nickhardiman, Name: Nick Hardiman, email: nick.hardiman@me.com, Creation: 2020-03-26, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 12:15:57 <zodbot> stickster: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca 12:16:22 <jakfrost> The #171, not certain, just saw the notices on the mail list yesterday 12:17:00 * asamalik looking at #171 12:17:01 <stickster> Ah, I found him! Nick sent email to the list and Stephen Snow got him started 12:17:13 <asamalik> jakfrost++ 12:17:13 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for jakfrost changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:17:17 <sysoplab> Hi is this the magazine meeting? 12:17:25 <asamalik> sysoplab: hi, yes, it is! 12:17:28 <asamalik> welcome! 12:17:37 <stickster> jakfrost: Also commented on nickhardiman1's Pagure issue here: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/77 12:18:35 <stickster> Anyway, looks like we have a series of three articles on Silverblue that could be edited, they look pretty good although might need someone to determine whether they cover things in the right order relative to each other 12:18:56 <stickster> Maybe we should have cards for these? asamalik Do you want me to take a few minutes to make those in Taiga so we can keep things straight? 12:19:19 <asamalik> stickster: that would be very helpful, yes, please :) 12:19:24 <jakfrost> I can edit the Silverblue articles 12:19:40 <asamalik> #171 is a Fedora Classroom announcement, happens May 9th, so that should go out soon 12:19:46 <asamalik> jakfrost: fantastic! 12:20:13 <sysoplab> the IRC 101 preview link is broken or it was last night when I tried to view it. 12:20:44 <asamalik> sysoplab: it works for me when I'm logged in Wordpress (if you mean the preview) 12:21:26 <asamalik> sysoplab: fedoramagazine.org/admin is where you log in with FAS — does that help? 12:21:50 <jakfrost> you need to be logged into WP for the preview to work 12:22:02 <stickster> sysoplab: The preview links rarely work past 24 hours, best to just login to the Magazine and find it in the posts list 12:22:12 <stickster> jakfrost++ 12:22:13 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for jakfrost changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:22:33 <asamalik> it also helps to delete everything in the URL after the first parameter, like this: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=31045 12:22:38 <asamalik> for some reason, that makes it work 12:22:53 <asamalik> + being logged in 12:24:14 <stickster> asamalik: bcotton: jakfrost: I've taken up a practice of editing the whole editorial board to cards. That way all of us are getting pinged when a card moves or gets added, commented, whatever. 12:24:27 <bcotton> stickster++ 12:24:27 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for pfrields changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:24:27 <stickster> It should help avoid missing things that are going on, and SPoF issues 12:24:43 <sysoplab> I signed in and edited link still get 404 not results looking for 12:25:05 <asamalik> stickster++ 12:25:05 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for pfrields changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:25:27 <jakfrost> stickster++ 12:25:27 <zodbot> jakfrost: Karma for pfrields changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:26:42 <sysoplab> Also sorry I haven't added much to the podman article I started. On vacation with family haven't had a chance to add much yet. Should be back tonight. It said unassigned in Taiga/KanBan. 12:27:33 <da2ce7> Hello all, I have been working on my Article: Fedora 32: Simple Local File-Sharing with Samba: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=31015&preview=1&_ppp=a3c45b17e0 12:27:46 <siddharthvipul> Hi all, Good day! I have something to ask. I was once interviewed for How do you fedora.. and I loved that segment. From what I can see, cprofitt used to handle is all. It seems it's been halted for a while. Is there something I can help with (or possibly restart?) I tried contacting Charles through an email but got no response.. so before spamming I wanted to discuss it here 12:28:14 <da2ce7> It still is in the draft stage; however it should be mostly finished for technical review. 12:29:08 <bcotton> da2ce7, siddharthvipul: the current topic is finished articles to review. let's hold this until later 12:29:17 <asamalik> my internet died, I'm on a phone... :/ 12:29:35 <sysoplab> asamalik: https://pasteboard.co/J779k69.jpg 12:30:24 <bcotton> asamalik: need me to take over? 12:30:31 <stickster> siddharthvipul: Absolutely you could help with that. It's actually quite an easy project to run, in that you simply need to email interviewees and ask them to answer the questions 12:30:43 <asamalik> that would be great bcotton 12:31:00 <stickster> siddharthvipul: Why don't we take this to #fedora-magazine or wait for All Other Business section at the end to discuss, we'd be grateful to have the help. 12:31:02 <asamalik> hopefully it'll get back soon... thanks! 12:31:12 <bcotton> #action jakfrost to edit the silverblue articles 12:31:20 <bcotton> okay, i think we covered the finished articles to review topic 12:31:24 <stickster> da2ce7: Was this a proposal in Pagure? 12:31:31 <da2ce7> yes. 12:31:39 <da2ce7> https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/80 12:31:39 <siddharthvipul> stickster: I am there and we can discuss after the meeting :) 12:31:45 <bcotton> #topic 4/ Articles to edit 12:31:46 <bcotton> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator. 12:31:48 <bcotton> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban 12:32:00 <stickster> da2ce7: I see, let's discuss this later in the meeting then 12:32:19 <bcotton> jakfrost: you're editing #169. can you do the image, too? 12:32:42 <jakfrost> I will try to is that the Silverblue rebase article? 12:33:00 <bcotton> jakfrost: yes 12:33:15 <jakfrost> When would we like to publish? 12:33:29 <jakfrost> sorry getting ahead of the agenda 12:33:35 <bcotton> probably sometime next week, but yes :-) 12:33:41 <bcotton> anyone want to take #171? 12:33:47 <bcotton> the IRC classroom article 12:34:01 <asamalik> I can 12:34:24 <asamalik> edit and image 12:34:47 <bcotton> #action asamalik to edit and image #171 12:35:21 <bcotton> okay, that's the end of that column 12:35:29 <bcotton> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule 12:35:31 <bcotton> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period. 12:35:32 <bcotton> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content. 12:35:33 <bcotton> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban 12:35:46 <asamalik> I'm back! 12:35:50 <bcotton> so 171 seems like friday's article unless we want to try to get it out tomorrow? 12:35:58 * bcotton passes the crown back to asamalik 12:36:00 <asamalik> I'd push .. yes tomorrow 12:36:13 <jakfrost> Should I try Friday for #169 12:36:15 <asamalik> ha, thanks! 12:36:37 * linuxmodder is here crazy late 12:36:42 <sysoplab> bcotton:. I should have the podman one done by next week some time but no way it'll be entirely written by tomorrow/Friday. 12:36:52 <asamalik> jakfrost: I'd say that would be great 12:36:59 <bcotton> sysoplab: that's fine, we have enough for this week :-) 12:37:01 <jakfrost> okay, will do 12:37:04 <asamalik> those two are timely 12:38:33 <jakfrost> asamalik: and time sensitive 12:38:33 <asamalik> linuxmodder: welcome! 12:39:03 <linuxmodder> asamalik, I'm a long time community member but the last year or so been on the finges mostly in dev and respins 12:39:09 <asamalik> so far, we have: 12:39:10 <asamalik> Thu 07 May 2020: #171 Fedora Classroom Session “IRC101” (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) 12:39:10 <asamalik> Fri 08 May 2020: #169 How to rebase to Fedora 32 on Silverblue (image: DONE, edit: jakfrost) 12:39:30 <jakfrost> agreed 12:39:40 <asamalik> linuxmodder: I mean welcome to the meeting :) I remember you being around for some time! 12:39:54 <linuxmodder> asamalik, did the firewall preview link go crazy ? I was wanting to read it thru and seems its dead? 12:39:54 <stickster> jakfrost: That rebase article is timely... we can link back to that from the new SB articles coming in :-) 12:40:13 <bcotton> asamalik: i can try to get #164 ready for monday if we don't have anything else that can step in 12:40:20 <jakfrost> stickster: you sir are correct! 12:40:35 <stickster> linuxmodder: If the link has a nonce in it, you should generally assume it won't work after that day... I would just login to WP and find it in the draft posts 12:40:49 <asamalik> bcotton: that souds good 12:40:57 * asamalik can't type today... 12:41:43 <asamalik> or you could also do Wednesday... we decided we don't have to push it and publish 3 a week no matter what 12:42:07 * jakfrost thinking this is the most action this meeting has seen 12:42:10 <linuxmodder> asamalik, I'll circle back post meeting I seem to have lost those creds or the knowledge how to get to them 12:42:19 <asamalik> so #171, #169, and #164 are enough I'd say :) 12:42:30 <bcotton> i'll aim for Monday and if I fail I'll just say "we don't have to push it" 12:42:47 <asamalik> there you go! 12:42:47 <jakfrost> bcotton: seems fair 12:42:48 <bcotton> if i aim for Wednesday, i'll either stress about it late Tuesday or end up missing Wednesday, too :-) 12:43:03 * bcotton has finally learned a little bit about himself after 37 years 12:43:33 <stickster> jakfrost++ 12:43:53 <asamalik> bcotton: ha, so I even gave it a date! 12:43:57 <stickster> linuxmodder: It's your FAS account to login to either WP or the Taiga board 12:44:09 <linuxmodder> teams is Tiaga? 12:44:12 <stickster> yes 12:44:18 <linuxmodder> but where is the login link ? 12:44:21 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Thu 07 May 2020: #171 Fedora Classroom Session “IRC101” (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) -- Fri 08 May 2020: #169 How to rebase to Fedora 32 on Silverblue (image: DONE, edit: jakfrost) -- Mon 11 May 2020: #164 Add a service to firewalld (image: DONE, edit: bcotton) 12:44:37 <stickster> linuxmodder: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban -- and look to upper right for login 12:44:39 <bcotton> patch 12:45:19 <linuxmodder> ah seems I may need some more onboarding then I thought :P 12:45:23 <bcotton> asamalik: #164 is 'image: bcotton', not 'image: DONE' 12:45:38 <asamalik> linuxmodder: this should have everything: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ 12:45:56 <asamalik> bcotton: oh, we need to set the tag, then! (it's generated from Taiga) 12:46:35 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Thu 07 May 2020: #171 Fedora Classroom Session “IRC101” (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) -- Fri 08 May 2020: #169 How to rebase to Fedora 32 on Silverblue (image: DONE, edit: jakfrost) -- Mon 11 May 2020: #164 Add a service to firewalld (image: bcotton, edit: bcotton) 12:46:47 <bcotton> ack 12:47:15 <stickster> +1 12:47:22 <jakfrost> +1 12:47:23 <bcotton> #action asamalik to add his magic publishing schedule generation to the editoral meetings docs 12:47:48 <jakfrost> bcotton++ asamalik++ 12:47:48 <zodbot> jakfrost: Karma for bcotton changed to 10 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:47:48 <asamalik> podman --rm -it asamalik/magazine-schedule 12:47:51 <asamalik> but yes, I'll add it! 12:47:52 <zodbot> jakfrost: Karma for asamalik changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:48:30 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Thu 07 May 2020: #171 Fedora Classroom Session “IRC101” (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) -- Fri 08 May 2020: #169 How to rebase to Fedora 32 on Silverblue (image: DONE, edit: jakfrost) -- Mon 11 May 2020: #164 Add a service to firewalld (image: bcotton, edit: bcotton) 12:48:43 <asamalik> #topic 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve 12:48:43 <asamalik> #info Review the the article proposals and decide about what's next — a new article spec? more discussion? 12:48:43 <asamalik> #link Article proposals: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issues 12:49:39 <jakfrost> We should really go into the article spec on kanban and get some of those moving or turfed 12:49:54 <bcotton> jakfrost++ 12:49:54 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for jakfrost changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:50:04 <stickster> jakfrost++, I'm for trashing those that are oldy/moldy 12:50:08 <asamalik> yeah 12:50:19 <bcotton> maybe we should have a separate 1-2 hour hackfest meeting devoted to grooming that row 12:50:24 <asamalik> if there are good proposals that are generic enough for anyone to write, they can absolutely stay there 12:50:45 <asamalik> but I agree we don't want to keep it full of anything else probably 12:50:51 <jakfrost> yes alot are open enough that is the case but some are dated 12:51:23 <jakfrost> #131 turf out of date 12:51:35 <linuxmodder> asamalik, still wanting to do that oldy/moldy one you proposed ~ 8 mo ago on OpenScap 12:51:51 <bcotton> what do we think of the idea of once a quarter, doing a up-to-2-hour video call to clean up old cards, etc? 12:52:01 <jakfrost> #133 good idea, where is it at with the author? 12:52:11 <sysoplab> I saw a few I was interested in writing after the one I started not sure how old they are 12:52:16 <jakfrost> bcotton: I would +1 that 12:52:17 <bcotton> like make it a regular process and we can also use some of that time to just have some general magazine discussion 12:52:33 <linuxmodder> bcotton, re: 2 hour call +1 form me 12:53:08 <asamalik> down again :/ 12:53:32 <bcotton> #action bcotton to propose quarterly cleanup call on mailinglist 12:53:37 <linuxmodder> I can't see anything newer than #83 is that 131 in the 'closed' ? 12:53:39 <sysoplab> Depending on time for the video call I would be able to attend and participate so I'll +1 12:53:42 <bcotton> asamalik: my airplane 12:53:46 <asamalik> +1 to bcotton 's proposal 12:54:36 <linuxmodder> asamalik, any interest in your needs writer for OpenSCAP still? 12:54:51 <jakfrost> #147, is the a GLB article? 12:55:36 <jakfrost> #23 would be interezsting but is JWF still indisposed 12:56:16 <jakfrost> linuxmodder:if you want to tackle it go for it please 12:56:42 <linuxmodder> jakfrost, I love OpenSCAP and the complaince space stuff :P just fyi 12:57:23 * stickster needs to run to meetings 12:57:26 <bcotton> linuxmodder++ 12:57:26 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for linuxmodder changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:57:35 <linuxmodder> asamalik, how far down that rabbit hole should I stop at tho? simple scanning and ansible or a full on setup in like a 2 or 3 parter? 12:57:38 <asamalik> linuxmodder: go for it, sure! that probably wasn't me, I just probably copied from Wordpress 12:57:47 <bcotton> yeah, we're at the end of the hour. if anyone had items for open floor, send them to the mailing list 12:57:48 <linuxmodder> asamalik, ah okay 12:57:57 <bcotton> linuxmodder: start with one, see how many articles you get out of it :-) 12:58:03 <asamalik> linuxmodder: as deep as you want to, knowing we can always split it into series :) 12:58:10 <stickster> siddharthvipul: Folks can still work with you on #fedora-magazine on the HDYF sedries 12:58:13 <stickster> *series 12:58:49 * asamalik also needs to disappear for other meetings 12:58:56 <siddharthvipul> stickster: that's awesome.. I know a couple of interested folks too 12:58:59 <bcotton> okay, i'm going to #endmeeting now, thanks, everyone, see you next week! 12:59:00 <linuxmodder> stickster, so you think a starter to complaince ninja plan then knowing oyu are also in that space to a degree 12:59:11 <jakfrost> see ya 12:59:13 <bcotton> #endmeeting