12:01:27 <asamalik> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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12:01:27 <asamalik> #meetingname magazine
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12:01:27 <asamalik> #topic Roll call
12:01:27 <asamalik> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr bcotton
12:01:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
12:01:48 <bcotton> ohai
12:01:49 <bcotton> .hello2
12:01:50 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
12:01:55 <stickster> .hello pfrields
12:01:56 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
12:03:29 <stickster> wheeeee
12:03:50 <asamalik> morning/afternoon!
12:04:00 <asamalik> #topic Agenda
12:04:00 <asamalik> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
12:04:00 <asamalik> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
12:04:00 <asamalik> #info -- 2/ In progress followup --
12:04:00 <asamalik> #info -- 3/ Finished articles to review --
12:04:01 <asamalik> #info -- 4/ Articles to edit --
12:04:01 <asamalik> #info -- 5/ Publishing schedule --
12:04:02 <asamalik> #info -- 6/ Editor of the Week --
12:04:02 <asamalik> #info -- 7/ Open floor --
12:04:36 <asamalik> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
12:05:07 <asamalik> #info Week of 28 Sep: 72.6k pageviews -- definitely above average
12:05:20 <asamalik> we need to do Betas more often
12:05:21 <bcotton> we should release every week!
12:05:39 <asamalik> yes, Betas on Tuesdays, GAs on Thursdays!
12:06:25 <asamalik> #topic 2/ In progress followup
12:06:26 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
12:06:26 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:07:06 <asamalik> there's quite a bit going on on the board!
12:07:46 <bcotton> hooray!
12:09:22 <stickster> \o/
12:09:36 <asamalik> #235 and #237 are still in progress
12:09:55 <asamalik> 234 not 235
12:09:56 <asamalik> looking at #185
12:10:22 <bcotton> 185 is a zombie at this point :/
12:10:23 <asamalik> oh it's long but it's just notes, not the actual writeup, so in progress I believe, too
12:10:26 <asamalik> oh
12:10:44 <asamalik> well we can move it back and note it's full of notes and might be easy for someone to refine
12:10:46 <bcotton> yeah, it was last edited in january iirc. and the author of the linked draft isn't the author on the card
12:11:30 <asamalik> hah ok, then it's definitely going back and I'd probably encourage any other author to pick it up.. what do you think?
12:11:51 <bcotton> agreed
12:13:07 <asamalik> done
12:13:16 <asamalik> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review
12:13:16 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback.
12:13:16 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:14:39 <bcotton> 240 (systemd-resolved) looks ready. i'd like to take it if no one else is begging to
12:15:26 <asamalik> sold to bcotton!
12:16:09 <bcotton> hooray!
12:18:16 <asamalik> #94 seems ready, too
12:18:20 <bcotton> 94 looks ready at a quick glance. i recall stickster had some objections to it a week or two ago. are those address now?
12:19:01 <asamalik> based on the comments the author was still editing it
12:19:09 <stickster> bcotton: Not objections AFAIR, more that it was still in progress
12:19:12 <asamalik> but they updated the ticket, saying it's ready
12:19:26 <stickster> Yeah, seems ready now, and it just needs some careful editing
12:21:02 <bcotton> yay
12:21:02 <stickster> I can take this one, but I likely won't be able to work on it until the weekend.
12:21:47 <asamalik> sold!
12:23:34 <stickster> #action stickster edit/image article #94 (butterfly/rsync)
12:23:41 <asamalik> and 238 looks good, too
12:23:44 <asamalik> I can take it
12:24:19 <asamalik> #action asamalik edit/image article #238 (stratis encryption)
12:24:34 <asamalik> #action bcotton edit/image article #240 (systemd-resolved)
12:24:39 <stickster> I don't see jakfrost around, I guess he couldn't make this one
12:24:40 * pingou has a question for the openfloor
12:25:07 <asamalik> we've emptied the column!
12:25:17 <stickster> asamalik: jakfrost had the editorship for #94, it seems like -- I didn't mean to steal this from him.
12:25:22 * asamalik waves at pingou!
12:25:29 <bcotton> bonjour, pingou!
12:25:34 <pingou> ó/
12:25:54 <asamalik> stickster: oh! ok then let's take this back
12:26:11 <stickster> Just so I have something to do... bcotton do you need an image for yours?
12:26:17 <asamalik> #undo
12:26:17 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by asamalik at 12:24:34 : bcotton edit/image article #240 (systemd-resolved)
12:26:18 <asamalik> #undo
12:26:18 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by asamalik at 12:24:19 : asamalik edit/image article #238 (stratis encryption)
12:26:19 <asamalik> #undo
12:26:19 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by stickster at 12:23:34 : stickster edit/image article #94 (butterfly/rsync)
12:26:25 <asamalik> #action asamalik edit/image article #238 (stratis encryption)
12:26:50 <asamalik> #action jakfrost edit article #94 (butterfly/rsync)
12:26:50 <bcotton> stickster: "need" is a strong word, but I'd welcome an image for either of the ones assigned to me if you're bored
12:27:55 <asamalik> #action bcotton edit article #240 (systemd-resolved)
12:28:00 <asamalik> #action stickster image article #240 (systemd-resolved)
12:28:15 <stickster> bcotton: Hey, what if we used these as examples for a clinic this Friday on images? Not that you need that clinic, but just since they have to be done anyway
12:28:32 <bcotton> stickster++
12:28:46 <stickster> I can probably do something about 3pm EDT, I will announce to list to see if folks can show up. But we can record it too.
12:28:55 <asamalik> stickster++
12:30:25 <asamalik> we managed to empty the column!
12:30:32 <stickster> wow
12:30:46 <asamalik> #topic 4/ Articles to edit
12:30:46 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
12:30:46 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:31:10 <asamalik> 232 and 239 we haven't seen yet today
12:31:52 <bcotton> i haven't had a chance to get to 239 yet. silly job making me do work
12:32:03 <bcotton> but it's blocked on 232 anyway so i don't feel bad :-)
12:32:04 <asamalik> but they are both assigned, so we just need to schedule those
12:32:09 <stickster> The cover images are in :-)
12:33:53 <asamalik> cool
12:34:17 <asamalik> so I guess that's all for this step
12:34:17 <asamalik> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule
12:34:17 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period.
12:34:17 <asamalik> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content.
12:34:17 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:34:33 <asamalik> I can get mine out for Friday
12:37:17 <bcotton> i'll try to get 239 done by EOW so that it can be scheduled whenever jakfrost is done with 232
12:37:19 <asamalik> anyone else wants to schedule some more? otherwise we can do that async and just schedule the one :)
12:37:39 <asamalik> cool
12:38:53 <stickster> Yeah, it sounds like we have enough in flight that we can use the list to schedule
12:39:08 <stickster> btw I have been digging using Discourse
12:39:40 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 09 Oct 2020: #238 Using encryption in Stratis (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) -- and more will be coordinated async in the forum
12:40:17 <bcotton> ack
12:40:44 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 09 Oct 2020: #238 Using encryption in Stratis (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) -- and more will be coordinated async in the forum
12:41:36 <stickster> ack
12:41:43 <stickster> oops, missed the bell but still
12:42:00 <asamalik> stickster: oh I thought your previous message was a sort of +1 :)
12:42:06 <stickster> oh yeah it was
12:42:16 <asamalik> #topic 6/ Editor of the Week
12:42:16 * stickster holds for open floor
12:43:19 <asamalik> Who will have the honor of being the next Editor of the Week?
12:44:13 <bcotton> i can take it again
12:44:26 <asamalik> bcotton++
12:44:36 <asamalik> #info bcotton will be Editor of the Week next week
12:44:41 <asamalik> #topic 7/ Open floor
12:44:50 <stickster> * balloons and confetti stream down onto bcotton *
12:44:50 <asamalik> all right pingou and then stickster :)
12:45:13 <pingou> have we ever had an article about synthings? and if not, would we be interested in one?
12:45:13 <stickster> very efficient meeting ushering asamalik  :-)
12:45:29 <stickster> Nope, and yes (just IMHO)
12:45:37 <asamalik> ^ that
12:45:44 * pingou recently started using it, and it is quite nice
12:45:47 <bcotton> what stickster said
12:46:05 <asamalik> which is three +1s which is approved
12:46:13 <asamalik> pingou: feel free to create a card and go for it!
12:46:23 <pingou> tx
12:46:36 <asamalik> stickster: all yours :)
12:46:47 <asamalik> pingou: thank you!
12:46:50 <asamalik> pingou++
12:47:18 <stickster> I just wanted to reiterate that I want to hold a "featured image" clinic... sounds like it will be this Friday, October 9 at 3:00pm EDT (1900 UTC)
12:47:40 <asamalik> that sounds really cool
12:47:55 <stickster> I need to figure out what's the best way to do it in a technical sense. I want people to be able to see each other, but also see my screen as I do Inkscape. Will Google Meet work OK, do you think?
12:48:33 <asamalik> I don't know how does it work without an account
12:48:44 <stickster> Oh, also, I need to record it and have it published somewhere so people can watch later. That's why I was thinking GMeet because IIRC it's possible to stream it
12:48:57 <asamalik> I know BlueJeans works good for anyone just having the link
12:49:05 <bcotton> i think it works without an account
12:49:26 <stickster> Oh, that streaming is only going to work if I do it from my work account, which I don't want to do.
12:49:34 <stickster> I want to use my personal account since this is for Fedora
12:49:38 <stickster> Hmm
12:49:47 <bcotton> we can take whatever recording and edit it up all fancy for the youtube channel
12:50:03 <stickster> I was trying to avoid putzing around with OBS
12:50:22 <bcotton> (it might be good if you can record your screen separately during the stream. makes for easier editing)
12:51:05 <bcotton> stickster: i'm happy to host on my bluejeans or g'meet account. fedora's my dayjob, so i don't feel a need to keep it separate
12:51:44 <stickster> Hmm, so I'd run a screen recorder at the same time and then push that recording somewhere later?
12:52:17 <asamalik> yeah that might work
12:52:22 <bcotton> that's what i'm thinking. that way we can cut to full screen on the really important parts
12:52:26 <asamalik> or wouldn't the meetign recording be enough?
12:52:39 <asamalik> it would probably show the screen too small, right?
12:52:41 <bcotton> and not have to rely on the conference platform recording the right things
12:52:47 <stickster> asamalik: ^ yeah, what bcotton said. Making sure people could see the screen enough.
12:52:49 <bcotton> that's my worry
12:53:43 <stickster> OK, I think my box should be able to handle that.
12:54:18 <stickster> bcotton: We'd need to get a URL ready and send it out to all the places (for viewing)
12:54:29 <asamalik> if it can use one mic for both... or we can then mix it up
12:54:47 <bcotton> stickster: okay, have a preference for BJN or Meet?
12:54:52 <asamalik> and keep the one audio track and perhaps switch between the video a few times
12:55:13 <bcotton> asamalik: there's so much fun to be had in kdenlive :-)
12:55:24 <asamalik> I know BJN works without an account, haven't tried that with meet, but otherwise no preference from my side
12:55:43 <asamalik> bcotton: ha!
12:56:37 <asamalik> #agreed pingou's article proposal about synthings is approved!
12:56:42 <asamalik> late, but still!
12:57:02 <asamalik> how do we want to announce it?
12:57:06 <asamalik> just in the Forum?
12:57:19 <stickster> On forum, but I'll also put it on my Twitter feed
12:57:28 <asamalik> or would it be worth a short article, perhaps "become a contributor, this is how!"
12:57:31 <bcotton> i have a weak preference for Meet, so i'll check anonymous listening and if it works, set that up and give stickster the link?
12:57:38 <stickster> asamalik: Oh, that's not a bad idea.
12:57:48 <stickster> bcotton: sounds fine to me.
12:57:53 <bcotton> asamalik: i think i'd prefer to do that after we have the finalized recording, but i see an argument for advertising it beforehand too
12:57:54 <bcotton> maybe both
12:57:55 <asamalik> sounds good!
12:58:07 <stickster> bcotton: Let's see how it goes, and then we can publish the article
12:58:12 <asamalik> oh you'd promote the recording rather than the live session?
12:58:19 <asamalik> that works too, I guess, will be more inclusive time wise
12:58:26 <stickster> Because if it goes poorly it just wastes more people's time. If it goes well the recording will still be useful
12:58:32 <stickster> yeah
12:58:35 <asamalik> hah
12:59:06 <asamalik> we believe in you stickster! :D but fair point, a double recording seems like we also need to believe in computers :D
12:59:42 <asamalik> anyway, sounds like a plan, we can hash out the details on the forum
12:59:45 <asamalik> because we're out of time!
13:00:08 <asamalik> #endmeeting