15:59:41 <zinebot[m]> #startmeeting magazine
15:59:41 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 13 15:59:41 2022 UTC.
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15:59:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine'
15:59:41 <zinebot[m]> #meetingname magazine
15:59:41 <zinebot[m]> #topic roll call
15:59:41 <zinebot[m]> #chair zinebot glb rlengland theevilskeleton
15:59:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine'
15:59:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: glb rlengland theevilskeleton zinebot zinebot[m]
15:59:54 <glb> .hello glb
15:59:55 <zodbot> glb: glb 'Gregory Bartholomew' <gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com>
16:00:09 <RichardEngland[m> .hello2
16:00:09 <zodbot> RichardEngland[m: Error: Missing "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
16:00:24 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:00:25 <zinebot[m]> #topic agenda... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/a8cf2992ea5d0e8d2a41d5021995248fed6e5306)
16:01:07 <RichardEngland[m> .hello rlengland
16:01:08 <zodbot> RichardEngland[m: rlengland 'Richard England' <rlengland@gmail.com>
16:01:41 <glb> Hmm, I just noticed that zinebot's icon is sometimes pink and sometimes green. I wonder what that means (if anything)?
16:02:32 <RichardEngland[m> What happened to "Robby the Robot"?
16:03:10 <glb> I just uploaded that to libravatar.
16:03:47 <glb> I think I would have to upload it separately here. But that is a good idea. I'll do that for next time. 🙂
16:03:54 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:03:55 <zinebot[m]> #topic 1/ last week's stats
16:04:10 <glb> #info Week of Jan 03: 46.0K pageviews -- unsurprisingly, down considerably from the previous week.
16:04:37 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:05:04 <zinebot[m]> #topic 2/ articles in progress... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/53ca38972c5d14009fe62639f687f9fb104a8b3e)
16:05:50 <glb> Should we go though all of them again?
16:06:02 <glb> Or are there some we should skip?
16:06:27 <misc> FYI, the complete list of topic is not going to be recorded by zodbot
16:06:42 <misc> because zodbot see just the "full message at xxxxxx"
16:07:20 <glb> I don't see a "full message at xxxxx"
16:07:38 <glb> I'm on matrix though.
16:07:53 <glb> I think someone was working on porting zodbot to matrix.
16:07:58 <glb> Maybe it will work then?
16:09:01 <RichardEngland[m> I don't think going through them will help.  It looks like we've pinged everyone relatively recently
16:09:21 <glb> I thought I saw you doing some of that yesterday.
16:09:29 <glb> Thanks for doing that async btw.
16:10:12 <glb> It normally saves time in this section of the meeting, but since the next few sections are empty as well, I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do.
16:10:21 <misc> well, that would still be a bad experience for people using IRC
16:10:26 <glb> I guess we can at least see if your patch works. 🙂
16:10:31 <misc> (but I guess people no longer care about us)
16:11:38 <glb> @misc having to either run my own bouncer or to trust a third-party bouncer was always a shortcoming of IRC IMO.
16:12:44 <glb> I've switched to Matrix mainly because of that. But I can see where some people have invested a lot of work/automation into IRC and don't want to switch to Matrix.
16:13:04 <bytehackr> \o
16:13:05 <glb> 🔹 next card
16:13:07 <zinebot[m]> #info 080: Offline updates (author: eonfge) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
16:13:08 <zinebot[m]> #link status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/80
16:13:08 <zinebot[m]> #link preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35811&preview=true
16:13:27 <glb> Hi bytehackr 🙂
16:13:35 <glb> 🔹 card 80 comments
16:13:36 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f7e159808d7ec964a6f0bdc77201c176b0445df1)
16:13:43 <glb> \o/
16:14:05 <RichardEngland[m> Thank you, I'll be here all week. Through cash
16:14:12 <RichardEngland[m> Throw
16:14:12 <glb> 🎉
16:14:42 <RichardEngland[m> s/Through/Throw/
16:15:16 <RichardEngland[m> (keep forgetting you can edit her)
16:15:27 <RichardEngland[m> s/her/herr/
16:15:34 <RichardEngland[m> s/her/here/
16:16:12 <glb> So that last one said "next week" and now that we have actual dates on the card, we know when "next week" is! 🙂
16:17:04 <glb> So if this one is ready, go ahead an run it asynchroously.
16:17:17 <glb> s/asynchroously/asynchronously/
16:18:05 <glb> s/next/coming/, s/next/coming/
16:18:18 <RichardEngland[m> l'll keep an eye on it and ping again maybe tomorrow
16:18:47 <glb> I wonder if the "next card" command should auto display the last few comments?
16:19:36 <glb> 🔹 list
16:20:01 <zinebot[m]> #info 080: Offline updates (author: eonfge) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/b0aa2d50ce0237858d3c6db47d8c0d52fc3b0453)
16:20:17 <glb> 🔹 card 13 comments
16:20:18 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/fb8a0f1032b14fadb6b87236ddc15696d24dd86a)
16:20:28 <glb> 🔹 card 59 comments
16:20:29 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/95f5a0876570be59e4b2c94ae4805284681964e6)
16:20:52 <glb> 🔹 card 68 comments
16:20:54 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/84f2a20fc33cb84fadb633db6a8c266d90e0ac38)
16:21:16 <glb> Hmm, here is another one that has a chance of being ready soon.
16:22:31 <glb> 🔹 card 70 comments
16:22:32 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c837b9f388d53f3c2d0afbeb6f835745299018e4)
16:22:45 <glb> 🔹 card 52 comments
16:22:47 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/20fba7c0a00cda3a05833a811b3f2bd267ce17ee)
16:24:55 <glb> 🔹 ping 52 @hankuoffroad there may be a chance that WordPress won't let you make further revisions to an article that is in the "holding pending review" status. If you find that that is the case, just let us know with a comment here on the card and we can move your article back to "draft" status.
16:24:56 <zinebot[m]> Comment added
16:25:17 <glb> 🔹 card 72 comments
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16:25:53 <glb> Well, I guess that is it.
16:26:12 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:26:12 <zinebot[m]> #info Are there any upcoming test days?
16:26:12 <zinebot[m]> #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/
16:26:18 <glb> Oh yeah, test days!
16:26:29 <glb> Probably shouldn't get my hopes up though.
16:26:38 <glb> 🔹 show testdays
16:26:39 <zinebot[m]> no test days found between 2022-01-09 and 2022-01-30
16:26:47 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:26:47 <zinebot[m]> #info Check the release schedule.
16:26:47 <zinebot[m]> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-magazine-tasks.html
16:26:54 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:26:57 <zinebot[m]> #topic 3/ articles to review
16:26:57 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to-edit' (finished) column or to the 'in-progress' (needs more work) column and provide feedback.
16:26:57 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
16:26:57 <zinebot[m]> no cards found in the 'review' column
16:27:04 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:27:09 <zinebot[m]> #topic 4/ articles to edit
16:27:10 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
16:27:10 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
16:27:10 <zinebot[m]> no cards found in the 'to-edit' column
16:27:16 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:27:24 <zinebot[m]> #topic 5/ publishing schedule... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/79e3401fb59a0df71014e523f7f99327a8484a85)
16:27:32 <glb> 🔹 show agreed
16:27:32 <zinebot[m]> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: There are no articles to be edited.
16:28:19 <glb> I guess no votes are needed when there are no scheduled cards. 🙂
16:28:32 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:28:32 <zinebot[m]> #topic 6/ editor of the week
16:29:26 <glb> Richard England: have you had a try at running a meeting with zinebot yet?
16:29:44 <glb> It is pretty quick and easy when there isn't much content in the queues.
16:29:48 <RichardEngland[m> During my testing I ran through all the typical steps
16:30:27 <RichardEngland[m> haven't done it "for real" Have to remember to point the bot at the meeting Matrix room
16:30:38 <glb> Yep.
16:30:48 <glb> So do you want to give it a try next week?
16:31:17 <RichardEngland[m> ...you're setting me up for the "flood", eh?   Sure, I'll give it a try.
16:31:28 <glb> 😛
16:31:41 <glb> 🔹 king rlengland
16:31:41 <zinebot[m]> #info rlengland will be editor of the week starting Sun 16 Jan 2022
16:31:46 <RichardEngland[m> Well don't get too excited there  🙂
16:32:00 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:32:00 <zinebot[m]> #topic 7/ open floor
16:32:17 <glb> Any thoughts?
16:32:52 <RichardEngland[m> I'm wondering if we should address the "stalled" tickets
16:33:49 <glb> I figured after some time (e.g. 1 year), we'd remove the assignee and move them back to "ideas".
16:33:59 <RichardEngland[m> okay
16:34:54 <glb> Maybe a function in zinebot that would display how long it has been since the assignee last commented on the card would be useful there.
16:35:50 <RichardEngland[m> Also, do you know if there is a location where the developers that work on Mate hang out?  I keep thinking an article on their status might be possible. But I can't find anyone/anyplace to ping
16:36:08 <RichardEngland[m> (I usually used Mate so I have a vested interest)
16:36:30 <glb> I don't know much about it.
16:36:52 <glb> I thought Mate was a precursor (and maybe an underlying system to GNOME).
16:37:02 <glb> Is Mate X11?
16:37:14 <RichardEngland[m> I'll keep looking.  It's not a high priority thing for me. Mate was a fork for Gnome 2 (?)
16:37:32 <RichardEngland[m> And at this point it is X11
16:37:56 <RichardEngland[m> Though some pieces have had some Wayland work done
16:38:24 <glb> Was that the one that was designed for tablets?
16:38:54 <RichardEngland[m> no
16:39:11 <glb> I think there was one that has fairly large fonts and icons for small screens.
16:39:37 <glb> I forgot what it was called though.
16:39:38 <glb> Oh well.
16:40:10 <glb> Covering some of the different window manage might make for some good articles.
16:40:30 <glb> I'm not sure how much we should promote the X11 stuff though.
16:41:08 <glb> I guess X11 will still be around for a while. But I think even the X11 devs say they want it to fade away.
16:41:30 <RichardEngland[m> I was thinking that it would be good for the Mate users to know what X11->Wayland progress was being made.
16:41:44 <RichardEngland[m> But I'll keep looking to see if I can find anything out
16:42:20 <glb> Yeah, if Mate is adding new Wayland support (or any of the other window managers), then that would be newsworthy for sure.
16:42:36 <glb> Well, I guess that is all for now.
16:42:55 <RichardEngland[m> Have a good week
16:43:02 <glb> You too.
16:43:08 <glb> #endmeeting