16:00:46 #startmeeting magazine 16:00:46 Meeting started Thu Jan 27 16:00:46 2022 UTC. 16:00:46 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:00:46 The chair is zinebot[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:00:46 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:46 The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 16:00:46 #topic roll call 16:00:46 #chair zinebot glb rlengland theevilskeleton 16:00:46 Current chairs: glb rlengland theevilskeleton zinebot zinebot[m] 16:01:04 .hello rlengland 16:01:06 rlengland: rlengland 'Richard England' 16:01:10 .hello glb 16:01:11 glb: glb 'Gregory Bartholomew' 16:01:23 .hello2 16:01:25 x3mboy[m]: Sorry, but user 'x3mboy [m]' does not exist 16:01:56 🔹 next topic 16:01:58 #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ 16:01:58 #topic agenda 16:01:59 #info -- 1/ last week's stats -- 16:01:59 #info -- 2/ articles in progress -- 16:01:59 #info -- 3/ articles to review -- 16:02:00 #info -- 4/ articles to edit -- 16:02:00 #info -- 5/ publishing schedule -- 16:02:01 #info -- 6/ editor of the week -- 16:02:01 #info -- 7/ open floor -- 16:02:13 🔹 next topic 16:02:15 #topic 1/ last week's stats 16:02:38 Give me a sec. I'm not well prepared this morning. 🙂 16:03:01 I'm not in a rush 🙂 16:04:14 .hello x3mboy 16:04:14 x3mboy[m]: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 16:04:46 x3mboy[m]: g'morning 16:04:46 #info Week of Jan 17: 53.2K pageviews -- trending upwards 16:05:12 Cool! 16:05:19 I think it helps when we actually start publishing new content. 🙂 16:05:32 🙂 16:05:38 🔹 next topic 16:05:48 #info Looking at the 'in-progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? 16:05:49 #topic 2/ articles in progress 16:05:49 #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 16:05:50 #info 059: Commands providing views into the system (author: zexcon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:05:50 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/59 16:05:50 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=34935&preview=true 16:05:51 #info 068: Spam classification with neural networks (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:05:51 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/68 16:05:51 #info 069: Build a file server solution with Microsoft AD authentication using Fedora server and samba (author: dklima) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:05:51 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/69 16:05:51 #info 070: Fedora server edition on a raspbery pi (author: pboy) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:05:52 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/70 16:05:52 #info 052: 3-2-1-backup-with-fedora-arm-server (author: hankuoffroad) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:06:23 #info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: thunderbirdtr) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:06:23 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72 16:06:24 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35214&preview=true 16:06:42 Richard does a much better job at keeping track of these than I do. 🙂 16:07:01 Should we go through these one-by-one this week? 16:07:14 ...and regretfully I've been lax this week 16:07:39 I'm lax every week. 16:07:52 → 16:08:02 #info 059: Commands providing views into the system (author: zexcon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:08:02 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/59 16:08:02 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=34935&preview=true 16:08:29 🔹 card 59 comments 16:08:31 comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/95f5a0876570be59e4b2c94ae4805284681964e6) 16:09:24 🔹 ping 59 @zexcon Are you still working on this article? No hurry. We just want to make sure you haven't forgotten about it. 🙂 16:10:22 Hmm. I thought zinebot was supposed to indicate that the comment was posted. 16:11:11 Maybe something is broken. I'll have to check on it later. 16:11:22 Doesn't look like the posting was made 16:11:30 #action glb to investigate zinebot's ping command. 16:12:13 I just did it through Pagure's interface for now. 16:12:14 -> 16:12:28 I see that 16:13:11 It seems like zinebot isn't responding at all. I'm going to restart it. Just a sec. 16:13:42 Maybe is is the Pagure connection that wasn't responding. 16:13:47 ⋄ 16:13:47 zinebot is online 16:13:59 🔹 skip topic 2 16:14:05 #topic 2/ articles in progress 16:14:05 #info Looking at the 'in-progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? 16:14:06 #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 16:14:07 #info 059: Commands providing views into the system (author: zexcon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:14:08 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=34935&preview=true 16:14:08 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/59 16:14:08 #info 068: Spam classification with neural networks (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:14:08 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/68 16:14:09 #info 069: Build a file server solution with Microsoft AD authentication using Fedora server and samba (author: dklima) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:14:09 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/69 16:14:10 #info 070: Fedora server edition on a raspbery pi (author: pboy) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:14:10 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/70 16:14:39 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35824&preview=true 16:14:40 #info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: thunderbirdtr) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:14:40 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72 16:14:40 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35214&preview=true 16:14:52 → 16:14:53 #info 059: Commands providing views into the system (author: zexcon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:14:53 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/59 16:14:54 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=34935&preview=true 16:15:03 → 16:15:04 #info 068: Spam classification with neural networks (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:15:05 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/68 16:15:17 🔹 card 68 comments 16:15:18 comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/84f2a20fc33cb84fadb633db6a8c266d90e0ac38) 16:15:51 I guess January 6th is recent enough that we don't need to ping him again (yet). 16:15:55 → 16:15:56 #info 069: Build a file server solution with Microsoft AD authentication using Fedora server and samba (author: dklima) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:15:57 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/69 16:16:17 🔹 card 69 comments 16:16:17 comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9be4f3c82c9c94db7e43d4dca2efa007acf73ab8) 16:16:50 Hmm this one hasn't responded in a while. 16:17:13 I wonder if we should move it to stalled? 16:18:01 I think I would. Perhaps ping and then move? 16:18:04 OK 🙂 16:19:18 🔹 ping 69 @dklima since you haven't responded with any status updates in a while, we are going to move this card to "stalled" status. When/if you comment to let us know you are working on it again, we will move the card back to "in progress". 16:19:19 Comment added 16:19:49 👍️. 16:20:14 I have an idea about what may have gone wrong the last time I used the ping command. I used an emoji. Sometimes those can cause problems. (But they shouldn't.) 16:20:19 → 16:20:20 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/70 16:20:20 #info 070: Fedora server edition on a raspbery pi (author: pboy) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:20:30 🔹 card 70 comments 16:20:32 comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c837b9f388d53f3c2d0afbeb6f835745299018e4) 16:21:16 I know pboy is generally quite busy. I think we should just leave this one alone for a while. 16:21:37 okay 16:21:43 → 16:21:44 #info 052: 3-2-1-backup-with-fedora-arm-server (author: hankuoffroad) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:21:44 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/52 16:21:45 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35824&preview=true 16:22:03 🔹 card 52 comments 16:22:04 comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/82ac38334f5cc7644dee1a0c255dc3882f1675ef) 16:22:40 Jan 14th is recent enough that I think we can assume this one is actively being worked on. 16:22:46 → 16:22:47 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72 16:22:47 #info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: thunderbirdtr) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 16:22:48 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35214&preview=true 16:23:02 card 72 comments 16:23:16 🔹 card 72 comments 16:23:16 comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c7bb08a8677c6a1b48cb8a8d27a7dce4880def43) 16:24:16 I think thunderbirdtr has also been quite busy. He works on the websites and apps team. 16:24:28 I guess we'll leave this one alone for now. 16:24:31 → 16:24:33 card not found or end of column 16:24:40 🔹 next topic 16:24:41 #info Are there any upcoming test days? 16:24:41 #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/ 16:24:49 🔹 show testdays 16:24:51 #info 16:24:51 Sun 23 Jan 2022: [F36] Kernel 5.16 Test Day (8 days) 16:25:10 Hmm. It looks like I messed that info line up a bit. 16:25:13 #undo 16:25:13 Removing item from minutes: INFO by zinebot[m] at 16:24:51 : 16:25:21 I'll fix that later. 16:25:51 #action glb to fix the output of the show testdays command. 16:26:23 Anyway, that article is already published and there are no more in the near future. 16:26:28 🔹 next topic 16:26:29 #info Check the release schedule. 16:26:31 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-magazine-tasks.html 16:26:33 🔹 show schedule 16:26:34 Tue 08 Mar 2022: Prepare Beta release announcement... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/5c1b4a8808fafc34672dca4b57d6383131bd4404) 16:26:46 Still a ways off.🙂 16:26:50 🔹 next topic 16:26:55 #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to-edit' (finished) column or to the 'in-progress' (needs more work) column and provide feedback. 16:26:56 #topic 3/ articles to review 16:26:56 #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 16:26:58 #info 085: FedoraShareYourScreen (author: x3mboy) (fpca: signed) (status: review) 16:26:59 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/85 16:26:59 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35934&preview=true 16:27:00 #info 084: Things to do after installing Fedora Silverblue and Kinoite (author: harnapazade) (fpca: unsigned) (status: review) 16:27:00 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/84 16:27:00 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35937&preview=true 16:27:11 I'm here 16:27:19 Hi x3mboy! 16:27:54 I have the request to publish this on Monday 31st 16:27:57 If possible 16:28:05 #85 is ready to publish 16:28:10 It looks like that has already been set on the card. 16:28:21 Awesome! 16:28:31 I'll schedule it in WP 16:28:35 And it sounds like Richard has made sure everything is in order. 🙂 16:28:47 I do have a thought about it though. 16:29:20 Since this is intended to be a recurring subject, should we make a series tag for it? 16:29:48 If so, I assume the "slug" would ideally be the same as the hashtag that you are using on the social media sites. 16:30:49 But also, if this is going to be one of many posts, is this article going to serve as a template that will be copy-and-pasted to make future articles? 16:32:16 Did we lose x3mboy? 16:32:31 Yes, but I'm back 16:32:32 Current slug is: announcing-fedorashareyourscreen-week 16:32:33 fyi 16:32:49 yeah, I don't think that is right. 16:33:09 Well, that's up to you. Can it be a serie when it's one per release? 16:33:32 I don't think all future posts should be stated as "announcing (the brand new) ..." 16:33:59 Sure, it doesn't have to be very frequent to be a series. 16:34:06 Two per year is fine. 16:35:31 If it is meant to track with the releases, maybe the release number should be in the title somehow? 16:35:37 SO, I'm ok with it 16:36:17 glb: I though it, and makes sense for the articles in the magazine, but not for the hashtag in social media 16:37:01 But it can be, in future articles something like: It's that time on the release to FedoraShareYourScreen week! 16:37:07 s/to/for/g 16:37:16 How about for the Fedora Magazine titles -- FedoraShareYourScreen week (F35) 16:37:45 It sounds ok 16:38:47 I'd like to make the titles consistent if it is going to be a series. I'd like to drop "announcing" from the title of the first post. Is that OK? 16:39:00 Sorry Richard, you might have to redo the image. 16:39:10 ...I saw that coming 16:39:15 Also, will we be reusing that image each time? 16:40:02 I guess it is OK. But I don't think we should necessarily feel locked-in on the cover image. 16:40:18 I'll remove "Announcing" and create series tag FedoraShareYourScreen 16:40:37 I would like to have different images each release 16:40:45 And no problem with the tittle 16:41:16 So title change by removing "Announcing" there too? 16:41:29 I wasn't expecting to plan on futures FSYS weeks now, so I did the title with this 1st one in mind 16:41:29 Richard England: yes. 16:41:54 I think the first title should be "FedoraShareYourScreen week (F35)". 16:42:16 And then we should just change the number for future posts. 16:42:57 Should we be leaving "Announcing" in the image for the first one and just add (F35) ? 16:43:16 ...since the image will change? 16:43:26 I'm ambivalent about the wording in the title image. 16:44:28 I've changed the title 16:44:31 Yeah, the image doesn't need to be consistent. I'd just like to be able to get the complete results when searching really. 16:45:02 And that makes sense! 16:45:40 If the title vary too much, then some of them may match inconsistently when doing searches or when browsing an "ordered/sorted" list. 🙂 16:46:02 So that it from me on this one. 16:46:18 * So that is it from 16:46:58 Cool! 16:47:14 s/vary/varies/ 16:47:20 Marking my task list as done then! 16:48:31 Richard has his name on the card as the editor, so whatever happens (or doesn't ) from here on is on him I think. 😛 16:48:31 #info 085: FedoraShareYourScreen (author: x3mboy) (fpca: signed) (status: review) 16:48:31 → 16:48:31 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/85 16:48:31 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35934&preview=true 16:48:42 → 16:48:42 #info 084: Things to do after installing Fedora Silverblue and Kinoite (author: harnapazade) (fpca: unsigned) (status: review) 16:48:43 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/84 16:48:43 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35937&preview=true 16:49:09 Ugh. This one might be a bit tricky. 16:50:57 I think we should recommend removing MS Edge. It is just a clone of Chrome. I don't see a need to have both. 16:52:25 There is a lot I'm not crazy about with this one. 16:52:35 ...I've been AWOL on this one. Sorry 16:53:59 I'd like to change the title to something like "How I customize Fedora Silverblue and Kinoite" and be very aggressive about removing any and all uses of "we" in the article. 16:54:31 It also looks like it needs to be change to more narrative than the current outline form, perhaps? 16:54:48 Yeah. I already mentioned in the comments that that should be changed. 16:54:52 I don't want to be negative or anything, but I never expected this kind of articles in the magazine 16:55:16 I expected this on personal blogs, where that "After" fits the needs of the blogger 16:55:42 We can argue about what YOU will need after an installation and what I need after an installation 16:56:00 It is a good point. 16:56:16 (we are running out of time) 16:56:20 I always kind of felt that way about the "How do you Fedora" articles. 16:56:30 But that trend was started before I came onboard. 16:57:01 And I will piut this as example: First thing is to tune the dnf.conf 16:57:17 I think these sort of article just get accepted because we need content (i.e. it is better than nothing)> 16:57:20 s/I think these sort of article just get accepted because we need content (i.e. it is better than nothing)>/I think these sort of article just get accepted because we need content (i.e. it is better than nothing)/ 16:57:43 Why? If Fedora Project's recommendation is to tune this, this will be done a default in dnf.conf file 16:58:02 Unfortunately, we are about out of time. 16:58:04 Ok 16:58:34 I'll go back and for with the author a bit on this one in the card and see if we can improve it at least a little. 16:58:38 → 16:58:39 card not found or end of column 16:58:42 🔹 next topic 16:59:02 #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator. 16:59:02 #topic 4/ articles to edit 16:59:03 #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 16:59:03 #info 013: VNC Server in Fedora Linux (author: lruzicka) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 16:59:03 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/13 16:59:03 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35875&preview=true 16:59:03 #info 085: FedoraShareYourScreen (author: x3mboy) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 16:59:03 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/85 16:59:04 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35934&preview=true 16:59:28 🔹 show proposed 16:59:31 #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 28 Jan 2022: #13 VNC Server in Fedora Linux (editor: @rlengland) ‖ Mon 31 Jan 2022: #85 FedoraShareYourScreen (editor: @rlengland) 16:59:57 It looks like Richard has everything under control. 🙂 16:59:57 +1 16:59:58 rlengland++ 17:00:02 🔹 next topic 17:00:05 #topic 5/ publishing schedule 17:00:06 #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, decide the publishing schedule for the upcomming week. 17:00:07 #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in-progress' or even the 'ideas' columns come up with additional content. 17:00:07 #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 17:00:07 #info 013: VNC Server in Fedora Linux (author: lruzicka) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 17:00:07 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/13 17:00:08 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35875&preview=true 17:00:08 #info 085: FedoraShareYourScreen (author: x3mboy) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 17:00:08 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/85 17:00:09 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35934&preview=true 17:00:13 🔹 show agreed 17:00:17 #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 28 Jan 2022: #13 VNC Server in Fedora Linux🔸 (editor: @rlengland) ‖ Mon 31 Jan 2022: #85 FedoraShareYourScreen🔹 (editor: @rlengland) {🔹= forum calendar update succeeded, 🔸= forum calendar update failed } 17:00:46 Hey! The forum post worked this time! 🎉 17:00:46 #topic 6/ editor of the week 17:00:47 🔹 next topic 17:00:52 🙂 17:00:53 🔹 king glb 17:00:54 #info glb will be editor of the week starting Sun 30 Jan 2022 17:00:58 🔹 next topic 17:00:58 #topic 7/ open floor 17:01:08 Nothing from me... 17:01:19 #endmeeting