15:00:05 #startmeeting magazine 15:00:05 Meeting started Thu Jun 16 15:00:05 2022 UTC. 15:00:05 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:05 The chair is zinebot[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:00:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:05 The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 15:00:06 #topic roll call 15:00:07 #chair zinebot glb rlengland theevilskeleton 15:00:07 Current chairs: glb rlengland theevilskeleton zinebot zinebot[m] 15:00:18 .hello glb 15:00:18 .hello rengland 15:00:19 glb: glb 'Gregory Bartholomew' 15:00:23 rlengland[m]: Sorry, but user 'rengland' does not exist 15:00:23 .hello theevilskeleton 15:00:29 TheEvilSkeleton: theevilskeleton 'Hari Rana' 15:00:49 .hello2 15:00:50 rlengland[m]: Sorry, but user 'rlengland [m]' does not exist 15:01:06 [grrr] 15:02:08 .hello rlengland 15:02:09 rlengland[m]: rlengland 'Richard England' 15:02:59 why would it demand the display name? Oh well... 15:02:59 There is some complex trick to getting your username sync'd across the IRC bridge. But hopefully zodbot will move to Matrix one of these days and that will solve that. 15:03:27 There is a thread on Discourse about how to do that, but I'd have to search for it. 15:03:49 g'morning anyway 15:03:55 Good morning! 15:03:58 g'morning 15:04:04 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 15:04:05 #topic agenda 15:04:06 #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ 15:04:06 #info -- 1/ last week's stats -- 15:04:07 #info -- 2/ articles in progress -- 15:04:07 #info -- 3/ articles to review -- 15:04:07 #info -- 4/ articles to edit -- 15:04:07 #info -- 5/ publishing schedule -- 15:04:07 #info -- 7/ open floor -- 15:04:07 #info -- 6/ editor of the week -- 15:04:15 #topic 1/ last week's stats 15:04:15 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 15:04:25 #info Week of Jun 06: 49.1K pageviews -- down slightly from the previous week; likely because we only published one article for the whole week 15:04:27 pagure.io is so slow right now ๐Ÿ˜๏ธ 15:05:06 Yeah. I saw it mentioned in https://matrix.to/#/#admin:fedoraproject.org that pagure.io was under a DoS attack. 15:05:08 rlengland: can you take a look at this? https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme/pull-request/50 15:05:16 glb: Ouch 15:05:27 I think they've been fighting with it on and off for a few weeks. 15:05:43 Yeah, it's been slow for more than a week on my side 15:06:15 I wonder if people might be missing email notices from pagure due to the timeouts?! 15:06:44 I noticed that a few requests seems to have gone unanswered on the newsroom board. 15:06:57 I'm slowing getting time to myself and I'll take a look at PR#50. Life has encroached on me 15:07:25 rlengland: there is no hurry or deadline for any of that. 15:07:44 needs to be done, though 15:08:01 I mainly want you to do it just so that you are familiar with that aspect of maintaining/running Fedora Magazine. 15:08:27 Alternatively we can simply merge it and then wait for rlengland. My PR might be bad but it's still better than the tiny font we have right now 15:08:51 I'd like for you, as much as possible, to be familiar with all aspects of running the magazine so if I get "hit by a bus", someone will, in theory, be ready and able to step in and run things. 15:09:36 I'll reroute all busses 15:11:13 But back to the Pagure problem, if a request goes unanswered for more than a week, then you should "bump" the post or otherwise do something that will (re)trigger an email notice to the author. 15:11:33 Sometimes I tweak the metadata a little just to make some noise. ๐Ÿ™‚ 15:11:42 Bump as in ping? 15:11:43 Yes. 15:11:52 Good idea, I'm gonna do that 15:12:12 OK. moving on. 15:12:15 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 15:12:24 #topic 2/ articles in progress 15:12:25 #info Looking at the 'in-progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? 15:12:25 #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:12:26 #info 068: Spam classification with neural networks (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:12:26 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/68 15:12:26 #info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: thunderbirdtr) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:12:26 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72 15:12:26 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35214&preview=true 15:12:27 #info 060: Using Fedora Server to build a minimal desktop (author: nekon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:12:27 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/60 15:12:28 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=33868&preview=true 15:12:59 #info 104: Fedora Linux editions part 2: Spins (author: armanwu) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:13:00 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/104 15:13:01 #info 027: Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up. (author: suparna) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:13:01 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/27 15:13:02 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36577&preview=true 15:13:03 I'm tempted to move 68 and 72 to stalled at this point. 15:13:11 rlengland: opinions? 15:13:44 I agree 15:14:01 ๐Ÿ”น move 68 stalled 15:14:02 card 68 moved to 'stalled' 15:14:08 ๐Ÿ”น move 72 stalled 15:14:08 card 72 moved to 'stalled' 15:14:36 How about 38 and 37 15:15:54 Those aren't in progress. So I wasn't watching them. 15:16:20 Did you perhaps write the wrong numbers? 15:16:44 Yeah, wrong column, sorry 15:17:38 ๐Ÿ”น card 60 comments 15:17:39 comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/09c4da859370bde76b893fade72ea883f70ada8c) 15:18:56 ๐Ÿ”น ping 60 @glaringgibbon: any update on the status of this article? 15:18:59 Comment added 15:20:13 I see that #60 still has the other author assigned to it. 15:20:55 So is this one a dual-author article or is it being completely re-written by the new author? 15:21:40 Anyway, I trust that you are keeping that one straight rlengland ๐Ÿ™‚ 15:22:32 The author for #104 has written many articles for Fedora Magazine, so I think we can just leave him to it. 15:22:45 I apparently am not. It seems that it may need to be assigned to the new author 15:23:17 I hope I've been pinging the right person. 15:23:51 I moved #72 back to in-progress because it looked like you had sent it back to the author for further revisions. 15:24:48 And it looks like the author has already made the changes. So ... 15:24:57 ๐Ÿ”น move 72 โ†’ 15:24:57 card 72 moved to 'review' 15:25:48 It looks like you've taken #72. Should I go ahead and move it on to 'to-edit'? 15:26:05 #60 according to the Discourse comments, should be assigned to nekon as it is 15:26:29 as of february 15:26:29 So have I been pinging the wrong person on #60? 15:26:46 It looks like it. Sorry it isn't clear on the card 15:27:15 Oops. Well, can I get you to clear that up with some comments on the card then? 15:27:18 Sorry about that. 15:27:55 Yes, I'll try to clarify that and see if nekon has an update 15:28:44 Make sure also that the right person(s) are listed as the author for the article in WordPress and have access to edit it. 15:29:02 ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ. 15:29:26 Should I advance #72 to be scheduled for the upcoming week? 15:29:53 Well, maybe I should advance the topic first. ๐Ÿ˜› 15:29:58 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 15:29:59 #info Are there any upcoming test days? 15:30:00 #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/ 15:30:09 ๐Ÿ”น show testdays 15:30:09 #info Sun 05 Jun 2022: Fedora Kernel 5.18 test day (8 days) 15:30:15 #info Check the release schedule. 15:30:15 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 15:30:15 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-magazine-tasks.html 15:30:19 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 15:30:24 #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to-edit' (finished) column or to the 'in-progress' (needs more work) column and provide feedback. 15:30:25 #topic 3/ articles to review 15:30:27 #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:30:31 #info 121: Using Linux System Roles on Fedora to automate the implementation of Clevis/Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking (author: briansmith) (fpca: signed) (status: review) 15:30:32 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/121 15:30:32 #info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: thunderbirdtr) (fpca: signed) (status: review) 15:30:33 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36537&preview=true 15:30:33 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72 15:30:33 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35214&preview=true 15:30:54 Oops, I got my numbers crossed. 15:31:29 I meant 27 15:31:35 ๐Ÿ”น move 72 stalled 15:31:35 card 72 moved to 'stalled' 15:31:51 ๐Ÿ”น move 27 review 15:31:51 card 27 moved to 'review' 15:31:56 ๐Ÿ”น list 15:31:59 #info 121: Using Linux System Roles on Fedora to automate the implementation of Clevis/Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking (author: briansmith) (fpca: signed) (status: review) 15:32:00 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/121 15:32:01 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36537&preview=true 15:32:01 #info 027: Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up. (author: suparna) (fpca: signed) (status: review) 15:32:01 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/27 15:32:02 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36577&preview=true 15:32:29 So, #27 is confusing because it appears to have two copies in WordPress. 15:32:53 I trust you are also keeping that straight rlengland ๐Ÿ˜› 15:33:21 I wasn't aware of that... 15:33:32 I"ve been going by the one listed on the card. 15:34:33 I'll try to sort that out with the author 15:35:33 But otherwise, do you think we can schedule 27 for sometime late next week? 15:36:01 Yes. 15:36:17 ๐Ÿ”น move 27 โ†’ 15:36:17 card 27 moved to 'to-edit' 15:37:04 #121 looks good to me. 15:37:15 Any takers? 15:37:56 Takers as in someone who is willing to takeover? 15:38:05 Yes. ๐Ÿ™‚ 15:38:18 Give me a sec, I'll check it out 15:38:55 I think it looks very well-written. I don't expect that you would need to do much before publishing it. ๐Ÿ™‚ 15:39:03 #121 should be easy. ๐Ÿ™‚ 15:39:37 Someone may have to work up the intro that would go above the "read more" 15:39:43 I don't mind taking over. I can review and suggest edits if need be 15:39:56 I couldn't find a good break in the intro 15:41:01 I sometimes copy a few sentences from the conclusion and rework them slightly to be the "excerpt". 15:41:18 That was my thought 15:42:59 If you put a few sentences in the "excerpt" and "meta description" boxes, those will take priority over the "more" element for what is displayed in the preview text on the feed readers. 15:43:51 didn't know that. Nice tip 15:44:14 I'll assign theevilskeleton to #121 then. 15:45:17 card 121 moved to '->' 15:45:18 ๐Ÿ”น move 121 -> 15:45:20 ๐Ÿ”น list 15:45:24 no cards found in the 'review' column 15:45:29 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 15:45:36 #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator. 15:45:37 #topic 4/ articles to edit 15:45:38 #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:45:39 #info 126: Fedora Workstationโ€™s State of Gaming - A Case Study of Far Cry 5 (2018) (author: t0xic0der) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:45:39 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/126 15:45:39 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36612&preview=true 15:45:40 #info 027: Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up. (author: suparna) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:45:40 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/27 15:45:40 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36577&preview=true 15:45:40 #info 124: Fedora Workstation and accessibility (author: uraeus) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:45:41 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/124 15:45:42 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36569&preview=true 15:45:42 #info 125: Your Personal Voice Assistant on Fedora (author: mschwarz) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:45:42 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/125 15:45:42 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36618&preview=true 15:45:43 #info 120: Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:45:43 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/120 15:45:44 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36580&preview=true 15:47:01 hmm, where did 121 go? 15:47:20 https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/121 15:47:37 > Metadata Update from @glb: 15:47:37 > - Custom field editor adjusted to theevilskeleton 15:47:37 > - Custom field image-editor adjusted to theevilskeleton 15:47:37 Worked 15:48:08 121 is in "ideas" 15:48:24 It looks like there is a bug in zinebot. 15:48:30 ๐Ÿ”น move 121 to-edit 15:48:30 card 121 moved to 'to-edit' 15:48:34 ๐Ÿ”น list 15:48:39 #info 126: Fedora Workstationโ€™s State of Gaming - A Case Study of Far Cry 5 (2018) (author: t0xic0der) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:48:40 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/126 15:48:40 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36612&preview=true 15:48:40 #info 121: Using Linux System Roles on Fedora to automate the implementation of Clevis/Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking (author: briansmith) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:48:40 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/121 15:48:40 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36537&preview=true 15:48:41 #info 027: Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up. (author: suparna) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:48:41 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/27 15:48:42 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36577&preview=true 15:49:18 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36569&preview=true 15:49:18 #info 125: Your Personal Voice Assistant on Fedora (author: mschwarz) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:49:19 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/125 15:49:19 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36618&preview=true 15:49:19 #info 120: Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:49:19 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/120 15:49:19 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36580&preview=true 15:49:46 I might just remove those โ†’ and โ† shortcuts if they don't work properly. 15:49:53 But anyway. 15:50:24 So I've already edited and scheduled 126 for tomorrow. 15:50:39 ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ. 15:50:48 But before I get ahead of myself this time. 15:51:14 I think this colum is just for assigning things and I think that is already don.e 15:51:20 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 15:51:25 #topic 5/ publishing schedule 15:51:26 #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, decide the publishing schedule for the upcomming week. 15:51:27 #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in-progress' or even the 'ideas' columns come up with additional content. 15:51:27 #info 126: Fedora Workstationโ€™s State of Gaming - A Case Study of Far Cry 5 (2018) (author: t0xic0der) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:51:27 #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:51:27 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36612&preview=true 15:51:27 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/126 15:51:27 #info 121: Using Linux System Roles on Fedora to automate the implementation of Clevis/Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking (author: briansmith) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:51:28 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/121 15:51:28 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36537&preview=true 15:51:57 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36577&preview=true 15:51:58 #info 124: Fedora Workstation and accessibility (author: uraeus) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:51:58 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/124 15:51:58 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36569&preview=true 15:51:58 #info 125: Your Personal Voice Assistant on Fedora (author: mschwarz) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:51:58 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/125 15:51:59 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36618&preview=true 15:51:59 #info 120: Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:52:00 #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/120 15:52:00 #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36580&preview=true 15:52:15 So TheEvilSkeleton: do you think you can have #121 ready by Monday at 08:00 UTC? 15:52:50 Although 124 was really supposed to go out this week. 15:53:03 Maybe we should try to get that one out first? 15:53:03 glb: Yes 15:55:14 TheEvilSkeleton: go ahead and fix 'thing' -> 'think' on 124. That correction seems pretty obvious to me. 15:55:43 Sure 15:55:58 s/thing/think/, s/think/thing/ 15:56:48 Adding the hyperlinks is fine too as long as you are sure that you are linking to the right thing and it doesn't alter the text. 15:57:17 I asked them just to avoid linking the wrong thing 15:57:43 I wouldn't remove his name and title though. Those are fine, even if they are mentioned multiple times. 15:58:31 Fair enough. I prefer avoiding duplicates 15:58:36 Well, I'd say go ahead and send this one out without the hyperlinks that you are unsure of if he doesn't respond soon. 15:59:05 Oh, we are about out of time! 15:59:21 But I don't think there are any meetings directly after us, so I guess we are OK. 15:59:27 .nextmeetings 15:59:27 glb: One moment, please... Looking up the channel list. 15:59:30 glb: b'In #fedora-meeting-1 is Fedora Packaging Committee (starting in seconds)' 15:59:33 glb: b'In #fedora-meeting-3 is Fedora Infrastructure (starting in seconds)' 15:59:36 glb: b'In #fedora-admin is Fedora Infra Ops Daily Standup (starting in 2 hours)' 15:59:39 glb: b'In #fedora-mindshare is Mindshare Committee Meeting (starting in 4 hours)' 15:59:42 glb: b'In #fedora-meeting is ELN SIG (starting in a day)' 16:02:44 Based on this, there's another meeting right now? 16:02:58 It looks like we have 24 hours until the next meeting in this channel. ๐Ÿ™‚ 16:03:59 If there is another meeting happening now, hopefully someone will say something. 16:04:11 I just set some dates on the cards. 16:04:21 Do these look good to y'all? 16:04:25 ๐Ÿ”น show proposed 16:04:29 #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Wed 22 Jun 2022: #121 Using Linux System Roles on Fedora to automate the implementation of Clevis/Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking (editor: theevilskeleton) โ€– Fri 17 Jun 2022: #126 Fedora Workstationโ€™s State of Gaming - A Case Study of Far Cry 5 (2018) (editor: glb) โ€– Fri 24 Jun 2022: #27 Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up. (editor: rlengland) โ€– Mon 20 Jun 2022: #124 16:04:29 Fedora Workstation and accessibility (editor: @theevilskeleton) โ€– Wed 29 Jun 2022: #125 Your Personal Voice Assistant on Fedora (editor: glb) โ€– Mon 27 Jun 2022: #120 Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch (editor: rlengland) 16:04:50 I need to have zinebot sort those. 16:05:04 +1 16:05:18 glb: Yes please, I have a hard time reading this 16:05:40 +1 16:05:53 Unfortunately, it needs to be on one line because of the way zodbot works. 16:05:54 I may have to edit out some things in 120 since there are no links to sites as suggested 16:06:20 but the author may come through 16:06:46 Well, you can bump things a little if necessary. 16:07:30 I guess the schedule mostly helps us to keep from publishing multiple things on the same day. 16:08:18 Ideally the article would also be regular on M,W,F. But we seldom have enough content for that these days. 16:08:36 I'll see how it goes 16:09:12 TheEvilSkeleton: same goes for you -- if you need to bump an article to a later time slot, that is OK. 16:09:35 But try to always schedule things for 08:00 UTC on a M, W, or F. 16:09:57 Look at the dates on the cards in Pagure to see when the next available time slot is. 16:10:52 And change the due date on your card(s) as soon as you know that you need to bump something so that other authors know if a time slot has opened up. 16:11:52 OK. Then. 16:11:58 ๐Ÿ”น show agreed 16:12:02 #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Wed 22 Jun 2022: #121 Using Linux System Roles on Fedora to automate the implementation of Clevis/Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking๐Ÿ”น (editor: theevilskeleton) โ€– Fri 17 Jun 2022: #126 Fedora Workstationโ€™s State of Gaming - A Case Study of Far Cry 5 (2018)๐Ÿ”ธ (editor: glb) โ€– Fri 24 Jun 2022: #27 Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up.๐Ÿ”ธ (editor: rlengland) โ€– Mon 20 Jun 16:12:03 2022: #124 Fedora Workstation and accessibility๐Ÿ”ธ (editor: @theevilskeleton) โ€– Wed 29 Jun 2022: #125 Your Personal Voice Assistant on Fedora๐Ÿ”ธ (editor: glb) โ€– Mon 27 Jun 2022: #120 Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch๐Ÿ”ธ (editor: rlengland) {๐Ÿ”น=โ€ฏforum calendar update succeeded, ๐Ÿ”ธ=โ€ฏforum calendar update failedโ€ฏ} 16:12:54 Electricity went out. If I don't respond, it's because my LTE died too 16:12:55 Hmm, zinebot is always able to post one, but only one, calendar update to Discourse. I wonder if it is hitting a rate limit of some sort? 16:13:13 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 16:13:13 #topic 6/ editor of the week 16:13:23 ๐Ÿ”น eotw glb 16:13:23 #info glb will be editor of the week starting Sun 19 Jun 2022 16:13:29 ๐Ÿ”น next topic 16:13:30 #topic 7/ open floor 16:13:55 So it looks like we only went over by 15 minutes this time. ๐Ÿ˜› 16:14:06 Any questions/comments? 16:14:10 I'm clear. 16:14:32 Thanks everyone! 16:14:36 #endmeeting