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15:00:03 <zinebot[m]> #meetingname magazine
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15:00:03 <zinebot[m]> #topic roll call
15:00:03 <zinebot[m]> #chair zinebot glb rlengland theevilskeleton
15:00:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: glb rlengland theevilskeleton zinebot zinebot[m]
15:00:25 <glb> .hello glb
15:00:26 <zodbot> glb: glb 'Gregory Bartholomew' <gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com>
15:01:08 <rlengland[m]> .hello rlengland
15:01:09 <zodbot> rlengland[m]: rlengland 'Richard England' <rlengland@gmail.com>
15:01:14 <glb> Is zodbot going to deny you exist this week?
15:01:30 <glb> \o/
15:01:34 <rlengland[m]> I exist
15:01:48 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:01:48 <zinebot[m]> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
15:01:49 <zinebot[m]> #topic agenda
15:01:49 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 1/ last week's stats --
15:01:50 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 2/ articles in progress --
15:01:50 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 3/ articles to review --
15:01:50 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 4/ articles to edit --
15:01:50 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 5/ publishing schedule --
15:01:50 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 6/ editor of the week --
15:01:51 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 7/ open floor --
15:02:02 <zinebot[m]> #topic 1/ last week's stats
15:02:02 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:02:10 <glb> #info Week of Jun 13: 47.2K pageviews -- down about 2K from the previous week; unsurprising since we only had one article published
15:02:26 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:02:34 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'in-progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
15:02:35 <zinebot[m]> #topic 2/ articles in progress
15:02:36 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
15:02:36 <zinebot[m]> #info 060: Using Fedora Server to build a minimal desktop (author: nekon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
15:02:36 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/60
15:02:36 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=33868&preview=true
15:02:37 <zinebot[m]> #info 102: Joining clients to Samba Domain Controller (author: dklima) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
15:02:37 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/102
15:02:37 <zinebot[m]> #info 025: Desktop: byobu (author: suparna) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
15:02:37 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/25
15:02:39 <TheEvilSkeleton> .hello theevilskeleton
15:02:39 <zodbot> TheEvilSkeleton: theevilskeleton 'Hari Rana' <theevilskeleton@riseup.net>
15:02:53 <TheEvilSkeleton> Hello :)
15:02:53 <glb> Hello TheEvilSkeleton
15:02:58 <TheEvilSkeleton> Hi
15:03:09 <zinebot[m]> #info 108: Understanding BTRFS and putting it to good use  "General Explanation" (author: hartan) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
15:03:10 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/108
15:03:11 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36325&preview=true
15:03:50 <glb> It looks like Richard has already been pinging some of these this morning.
15:04:03 <glb> rlengland++
15:04:32 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/60
15:04:32 <glb> 🔹 next card
15:04:33 <zinebot[m]> #info 060: Using Fedora Server to build a minimal desktop (author: nekon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
15:04:34 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=33868&preview=true
15:04:45 <rlengland[m]> That one is in limbo
15:05:16 <rlengland[m]> originator has backed away and the possible new author is not responding
15:05:18 <glb> Yeah. I wonder if we should move it to stalled?
15:05:40 <rlengland[m]> That may be a good idea
15:05:51 <glb> 🔹 move 60 stalled
15:05:53 <zinebot[m]> card 60 moved to 'stalled'
15:05:56 <glb> 🔹 next card
15:05:57 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/102
15:05:57 <zinebot[m]> #info 102: Joining clients to Samba Domain Controller (author: dklima) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
15:06:58 <rlengland[m]> Pinged after a month. Maybe move to stalled next week if no response (?)
15:07:17 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/25
15:07:17 <glb> 🔹 next card
15:07:18 <zinebot[m]> #info 025: Desktop: byobu (author: suparna) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
15:07:56 <glb> This one was just created a few days ago.
15:08:14 <glb> I think this author has another article scheduled to go out tomorrow.
15:08:23 <glb> So I think everything is fine here.
15:08:39 <rlengland[m]> It was opened 8 months ago but suparna assigned it to themselves
15:08:57 <rlengland[m]> It's fine here.
15:08:57 <glb> Oh. That works too. 🙂
15:09:09 <glb> 🔹 next card
15:09:10 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/104
15:09:10 <zinebot[m]> #info 104: Fedora Linux editions part 2: Spins (author: armanwu) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
15:09:35 <glb> This author has written many articles for us and I think he knows the ropes.
15:09:58 <rlengland[m]> First article of the series is just going out, I think.
15:10:23 <glb> Oh. I thought it already went out.
15:10:36 <rlengland[m]> maybe it did
15:10:58 <rlengland[m]> Yes, #103
15:11:09 <glb> But yeah, it was recent, so let's not hassle the author too much about getting another one out the door. 🙂
15:11:17 <glb> 🔹 next card
15:11:17 <zinebot[m]> #info 108: Understanding BTRFS and putting it to good use  "General Explanation" (author: hartan) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
15:11:18 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/108
15:11:19 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36325&preview=true
15:12:00 <glb> This one looks ready to go.
15:12:13 <glb> 🔹 move 108 review
15:12:14 <zinebot[m]> card 108 moved to 'review'
15:12:21 <zinebot[m]> card not found or end of column
15:12:21 <glb> 🔹 next card
15:12:27 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:12:27 <zinebot[m]> #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/
15:12:29 <zinebot[m]> #info Are there any upcoming test days?
15:12:33 <glb> 🔹 show testdays
15:12:34 <zinebot[m]> #info no test days found between 2022-06-19 and 2022-07-10
15:12:40 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:12:40 <zinebot[m]> #info Check the release schedule.
15:12:41 <zinebot[m]> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-magazine-tasks.html
15:12:45 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:12:50 <zinebot[m]> #topic 3/ articles to review
15:12:51 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to-edit' (finished) column or to the 'in-progress' (needs more work) column and provide feedback.
15:12:52 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
15:12:55 <zinebot[m]> #info 108: Understanding BTRFS and putting it to good use  "General Explanation" (author: hartan) (fpca: signed) (status: review)
15:12:55 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/108
15:12:55 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36325&preview=true
15:13:59 <rlengland[m]> #108 I suspect author may want to add some diagrams. Hasn't responded to my response yet. But I'll keep an eye on ti.
15:14:25 <glb> Oh. I see a [TODO] in the article.
15:14:36 <glb> So yeah, I guess I jumped the gun on this one.
15:15:00 <glb> I saw the conclusion and thought it was ready.
15:15:05 <rlengland[m]> review is ok, I think. It's ongoing
15:15:43 <glb> OK. As long as you know what's going on. 🙂
15:15:53 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:15:59 <zinebot[m]> #topic 4/ articles to edit
15:16:00 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
15:16:00 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
15:16:00 <zinebot[m]> #info 124: Fedora Workstation and accessibility (author: uraeus) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit)
15:16:00 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36569&preview=true
15:16:01 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/124
15:16:03 <zinebot[m]> #info 027: Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up. (author: suparna) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit)
15:16:04 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/27
15:16:05 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36577&preview=true
15:16:05 <zinebot[m]> #info 120: Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit)
15:16:05 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/120
15:16:05 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36580&preview=true
15:16:35 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36618&preview=true
15:16:41 <rlengland[m]> #27 is scheduled
15:17:16 <rlengland[m]> #120 author requested I hold off on editing until the 24th as they have more edits to do.
15:17:57 <rlengland[m]> #120 is tentative schedule for the 27th
15:18:30 <glb> I think 124 asked to be scheduled for "early next week" anyway. I wonder if we should move that one to Monday and bump the other two down?
15:18:51 <rlengland[m]> Works for me.
15:19:22 <TheEvilSkeleton> Works for me too
15:20:36 <TheEvilSkeleton> And yeah, they asked https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/124#comment-803198
15:21:00 <glb> OK. I think I've updated the due dates on the cards.
15:21:06 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:21:09 <zinebot[m]> #topic 5/ publishing schedule
15:21:10 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, decide the publishing schedule for the upcomming week.
15:21:10 <zinebot[m]> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in-progress' or even the 'ideas' columns come up with additional content.
15:21:11 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
15:21:11 <zinebot[m]> #info 027: Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up. (author: suparna) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit)
15:21:11 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/27
15:21:11 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36577&preview=true
15:21:11 <zinebot[m]> #info 124: Fedora Workstation and accessibility (author: uraeus) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit)
15:21:12 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/124
15:21:12 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36569&preview=true
15:21:44 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36580&preview=true
15:21:45 <zinebot[m]> #info 125: Your Personal Voice Assistant on Fedora (author: mschwarz) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit)
15:21:46 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/125
15:21:46 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36618&preview=true
15:22:00 <glb> I wish I could get that rate limit fixed so it doesn't pause like that.
15:22:46 <glb> Also, heads up, I've tweaked the output of the proposed and agreed readouts so that there is a big green bullet in front of each item.
15:22:59 <glb> Hopefully that improves the readability a little. Let me know what you think.
15:23:05 <glb> 🔹 show proposed
15:23:09 <zinebot[m]> #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 09🅕 2022-06-24 r⁠lengland will edit 27 Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up.； 09🅜 2022-06-27 t⁠heevilskeleton will edit 124 Fedora Workstation and accessibility； 09🅦 2022-06-29 r⁠lengland will edit 120 Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch； 09🅕 2022-07-01 g⁠lb will edit 125 Your Personal Voice Assistant on
15:23:09 <zinebot[m]> Fedora；
15:23:50 <TheEvilSkeleton> Much better, but adding newlines will help
15:24:17 <glb> Unfortunately, I cannot do that because then zodbot wouldn't parse the line properly.
15:24:23 <rlengland[m]> +1 for me
15:24:32 <glb> It has to all be on one line. 😕
15:24:38 <TheEvilSkeleton> Aw
15:24:50 <glb> I did increase the spacing between the items though.
15:25:10 <glb> So I guess you are all good with the schedule though?
15:25:22 <TheEvilSkeleton> Yes, +1 for mew
15:25:23 <TheEvilSkeleton> * Yes, +1 for me
15:25:34 <glb> 🔹 show agreed
15:25:35 <rlengland[m]> spacing helped btw
15:25:45 <TheEvilSkeleton> I agree
15:25:53 <zinebot[m]> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 09🅕 2022-06-24 r⁠lengland will edit 27 Use SHM and TMPFS to speed things up.🔸； 09🅜 2022-06-27 t⁠heevilskeleton will edit 124 Fedora Workstation and accessibility🔹； 09🅦 2022-06-29 r⁠lengland will edit 120 Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch🔸； 09🅕 2022-07-01 g⁠lb will edit 125 Your Personal Voice
15:25:54 <zinebot[m]> Assistant on Fedora🔸； {🔹= forum calendar update succeeded, 🔸= forum calendar update failed }
15:26:20 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:26:20 <zinebot[m]> #topic 6/ editor of the week
15:27:15 <rlengland[m]> I try to take on one day at a time but recently several have been ganging up on me.
15:27:16 <rlengland[m]> I nominate glb
15:27:20 <glb> I saw you typing and got my hopes up that you were going to volunteer.
15:27:30 <glb> I guess I should have known better. 😛
15:27:40 <rlengland[m]> hope springs eternal
15:27:53 <glb> 🔹 eotw glb
15:27:53 <zinebot[m]> #info glb will be editor of the week starting 2022-06-26
15:28:04 <glb> 🔹 next topic
15:28:04 <zinebot[m]> #topic 7/ open floor
15:28:59 <rlengland[m]> I've done nothing on updating the theme because I'm not certain what has moved and what access is require or what  else in the theme has changed.
15:29:25 <rlengland[m]> in short, I'm confused (normal situation)
15:29:34 <glb> Eh, it's all version controlled and you are a wiz with that right?
15:29:49 <rlengland[m]> uh,... maybe (?)
15:30:12 <glb> excuses, excuses. 😛
15:30:24 <rlengland[m]> Is it all still accessed as indicated in the docs for the theme?  If so I'll forge ahead.
15:30:40 <glb> Yeah.
15:30:56 <TheEvilSkeleton> rlengland: you can view changes in the `commits` tab https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme/commits/master
15:31:12 <TheEvilSkeleton> Click on a commit and you'll see the change
15:31:29 <TheEvilSkeleton> Red is what has been removed, green is what has been added
15:31:44 <glb> misc decided to update the WordPress software and the PHP engine at the same time too. That might help to make things a little more exciting! 😛
15:32:10 <rlengland[m]> ...that was why I was hesitating.
15:32:22 <rlengland[m]> Is the dust settled on that yet?
15:33:28 <misc> no, not yet
15:33:34 <glb> So misc is updating the software and engine, ryanlearch is moving the repos to gitlab and you are updating the theme all at the same time. ... what could go wrong?!
15:34:01 <glb> Thanks for the update misc!
15:34:02 <rlengland[m]> exactly.  Let's bait a bull while we are at it.
15:34:44 <glb> I still say Richard is just looking for excuses to procrastinate. 😛
15:34:51 <misc> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/upgrade-of-the-blog-to-php-8-0-and-wp-6-0/39618
15:34:57 <misc> if people want to follow along
15:35:06 <rlengland[m]> No, I already procrastinated. That's what  got me into this pickle.
15:35:46 <glb> @misc I googled that problem and it looks to me like WordPress just doesn't work with PHP 8.0 yet.
15:36:01 <glb> I don't think the problem was in that widget afterall.
15:36:32 <glb> I guess you could just go ahead with the WordPress update but leave PHP at the current version?
15:37:01 <misc> curious, cause next.redhat.com was moved to WP 6 and php 8, but since that's php, maybe I didn't went to the right page
15:37:11 <misc> glb: yeah, I can do that too
15:37:25 <misc> I had a spreadsheet to track what was blocking and where
15:37:43 <glb> But as for the theme updates, @rlengland, I don't think the updates that misc is working on should really matter to the theme updates that you are making.
15:37:47 <misc> (as there is 17 WP instances, half being prod...)
15:37:51 <glb> I think you should be able to forge ahead.
15:38:17 <rlengland[m]> I'll address the theme, then.  TY
15:39:14 <glb> As for ryan moving the repo to gitlab. I think he is busy moving other things right now and it might be a while yet before the fedora magazine theme gets moved.
15:40:05 <TheEvilSkeleton> Bummer :/
15:41:25 <glb> There was some talk of trying to do CI on the new gitlab repo as well. But I'm a bit skeptical about that.
15:42:31 <glb> So, anything else?
15:42:37 <TheEvilSkeleton> Yes
15:42:40 <TheEvilSkeleton> Wait
15:43:14 <TheEvilSkeleton> Ugh, I always get lost with Pagure
15:43:30 <TheEvilSkeleton> Finally
15:43:32 <glb> excuses, excuses. 😛
15:43:42 <TheEvilSkeleton> We should fix this asap, imo https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme/pull-request/50
15:44:05 <rlengland[m]> That is the theme update I'm suppose to be doing.
15:44:21 <rlengland[m]> Mea culpa
15:44:57 <glb> Anything else?
15:45:25 <rlengland[m]> I'm clear
15:45:26 <TheEvilSkeleton> Same
15:45:31 <glb> Excellent.
15:45:36 <glb> Thanks everyone!
15:45:43 <glb> #endmeeting