21:01:43 #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 21:01:43 Meeting started Thu Aug 25 21:01:43 2016 UTC. The chair is ryanlerch. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:43 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:01:43 The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 21:01:54 #topic Roll Call 21:01:56 Ah, perfect timing! 21:02:05 .hello jflory7 21:02:06 jflory: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' 21:02:09 .hello downey 21:02:10 downey: downey 'Michael Downey' 21:02:29 .hello ryanlerch 21:02:30 ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' 21:02:33 * jflory is on mobile but is about to be back on laptop 21:02:58 jflory: no problems! 21:03:04 Hi 21:03:20 .hello cprofitt 21:03:22 cprofitt: cprofitt 'Charles Profitt' 21:03:42 .hello lailah 21:03:43 Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' 21:03:59 .fas x3mboy 21:04:00 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 21:04:33 Kohane, o/ 21:04:35 #chair ryanlerch downey cprofitt Kohane x3mboy 21:05:01 #topic this week in magazine 21:05:10 we had three posts: 21:05:10 oh, whoops, I can't run that one, ryanlerch has to. 21:05:34 #chair downey jflory7 Kohane x3mboy 21:05:34 Current chairs: Kohane downey jflory7 ryanlerch x3mboy 21:05:49 * Alfonso Savio: How Do You Fedora? 21:05:51 #chair cprofitt 21:05:51 Current chairs: Kohane cprofitt downey jflory7 ryanlerch x3mboy 21:05:57 * Flock 2016 in Krakow – Recap 21:06:04 Building Fedora Rawhide images with Imagefactory 21:06:36 weekly stats seems a little down on last week though :( 21:06:43 21K only so far this week 21:06:55 Was that the off publishing week? 21:06:55 what was it the week before? 21:07:11 cprofitt: 40K 21:07:18 that is quite a difference 21:07:20 but, this measures from monday 21:07:33 so we will get closer to it over the weekend 21:07:53 Well it's in the middle, and it has the half, so far so good 21:07:55 in encouraging news though, the total views for forever are: 3,979,658 21:08:22 Whoooo :) 21:08:27 * ryanlerch ususally misses this part of the meeting, so iforget how stickster usually measues this 21:09:00 well, if the daily average holds we should get an additional 12K by Sunday 21:09:00 For next measure at monday, we will hit 4M 21:09:14 #topic Pending review posts 21:09:16 * x3mboy encourage team to make a wave /o/ 21:09:25 ryanlerch: Usually we mostly compare week by week. Maybe some insight into how we can improve or what may have affected the stats. So I think we hit it 21:09:55 As I had a hunch, the Alfonso Savio HDYF was the most read article of the week. It was a very interesting post on social media 21:10:03 That was a good hook to pull readers in 21:10:22 I think the next HDYF will bring some eyes in as well. 21:10:25 https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14158&preview=1&_ppp=c38a626486 21:10:34 Remotely unlock encrypted volumes : https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13584&preview=true 21:10:36 that is pending review right now... very interesting women. 21:10:40 cprofitt++ 21:10:44 And AFAIK there is still several on the way, right cprofitt??? 21:10:44 jflory7++ 21:10:50 cprofitt++ 21:10:50 x3mboy: Karma for cprofitt changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:11:02 #info === "Remotely unlock encrypted file systems during boot" === 21:11:08 x3mboy: yes -- 6 in the queue not including the two additional requests in feedback I have to respond too. 21:11:09 * jflory7 does a quick readthrough 21:11:22 Apologies on this week, I'm still in a huge game of catching up on email... 21:11:55 cprofitt, latam has several ambassadors that want to. If you want i can keep you in touch with them 21:12:09 this one looks solid, though it might benefit from being split up 21:12:27 cprofitt: Into two posts? 21:12:30 it covers the basics of setting up encryption at the beginning (which is good) 21:12:31 Oops, ryanlerch 21:13:22 ryanlerch: I could see this as a two-part piece working well, introducing how to encrypt your Fedora install on boot (maybe good for SEO on its own too), and then having the info on remotely unlocking as a follow-up / associated to the general one. 21:13:27 x3mboy: yes please do. 21:13:36 jflory7: agreed! 21:13:46 It needs some cleanup but overall, this seems pretty solid to me. 21:13:54 anyone up for editorial duties on this/these? 21:13:54 We would probably want a technical editor to proof the second one 21:14:02 we are not talking about splitting up the HDYF are we? 21:14:03 Yes, agree 21:14:18 ryanlerch: I could tackle splitting this one up and get the first piece published, as an overview to encrypting your system on install. 21:14:22 No, the encryption article 21:14:23 cprofitt: no -- HDYF are perfect! 21:14:26 * cprofitt nods 21:14:29 cprofitt: Oh, no, we're on this one: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13584&preview=true 21:14:49 ryanlerch: I also believe I'm on the hook for the kernel article by labbott 21:15:06 yes, that is what I was reading when I mised which one we were talkinga about -- that one should be split and I agree about having a tech review of the technical details 21:15:28 downey: you keen to try your hand at some editing? 21:15:35 ryanlerch: sure! 21:17:22 ryanlerch: are you referring to the encryption article split? 21:17:41 +1 about splitting the encryption article 21:17:42 downey: Yeah. :) 21:17:48 downey++ 21:17:48 cprofitt: Karma for downey changed to 5 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:17:54 x3mboy++ 21:17:54 cprofitt: Karma for x3mboy changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:17:57 downey: yes! are you comfortable with editing the first in the series? 21:18:00 cprofitt++ 21:18:05 ryanlerch / jflory7 -- are you thinking there may be more articles in this encryption/security series? 21:18:08 downey++ 21:18:08 x3mboy: Karma for downey changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:18:14 we will also have to communicate wiht the author about the split too 21:18:24 ryanlerch: and yes, i think it shouldn't to be too bad to do 21:18:32 I would think talking about how to encrypt should tie back in to your GPG series as well. 21:18:34 downey: For this one right now, I see this as two-part. The second one we will probably need to pull a technical person to review too. 21:18:36 ryanlerch: +1 21:18:50 and there is another secutiry tips post in the works too 21:19:06 i think this one should just be an unlinked series, IMHO 21:19:28 ryanlerch: got ya 21:19:38 ryanlerch: Yeah, just loosely linked – e.g. a link to the how-to encrypt in the second one covering remote login 21:20:03 #action downey to communicate with Georg Hasibether about splitting the posts, and review the first post (how to encrypt) 21:20:28 .fas gmh 21:20:29 downey: sabba2 'cxnvmj' - takashi2013 '' - rgmhtt 'Robert Moskowitz' - gmh 'Georg Hasibether' 21:20:34 just while we do this, i propose downey get editor privs on magazine to help him edit :) 21:20:43 ryanlerch: +100 21:20:45 +1 from me 21:20:53 +1 21:21:47 done. 21:21:54 downey: Congrats! 21:22:06 thanks all, will write georg and get the ball rolling 21:22:13 +1 from me 21:22:15 downey++ 21:22:24 okies, next pending post 21:22:41 ryanlerch: Did we want an approximate date on this one? 21:22:44 For the first part, anyways? 21:23:10 jflory7: i wasnt sure about this one because not sure the state of the others. 21:23:20 should we aim for wednesday for this? 21:23:27 downey: you think that might be doable? 21:23:48 ryanlerch: you mean have the posts edited by wednesday next week? if so, sure 21:24:03 downey: primarily just the first one 21:24:06 :) 21:24:09 ryanlerch: yeah shouldn't be a problem. 21:24:37 #info first encryption article to be out wednesday 31st Aug 21:24:52 #info "Getting involved with the Fedora kernel " 21:25:03 #info https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14013&preview=true 21:25:28 * jflory7 raises hand 21:25:32 jflory7: woot! 21:25:56 This one was assigned to me last week - I could get it edited + featured image for Monday? 21:26:15 My schedule should be relaxing a bit in coming weeks :) 21:26:22 jflory7 +1 from me 21:26:52 #action jflory7 Review and edit "Getting involved with the Fedora kernel" article for a targeted publication of 2016-08-29 21:27:01 #info jflory7 to aim for the getting started in the kernel article to be out on Monday 29th Aug 21:27:08 #undo 21:27:08 Removing item from minutes: INFO by ryanlerch at 21:27:01 : jflory7 to aim for the getting started in the kernel article to be out on Monday 29th Aug 21:27:25 Nothing more from me on this one, I don't anticipate much trouble here. :) 21:28:08 Good. 21:28:09 #info "updating feodra tshirt lineup" 21:28:18 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14234&preview=true 21:28:39 downey: this one seems empty at the moment, is that expected? 21:28:44 FYI, the first bit above the horizontal rule should be removed and added to the previous article. 21:29:00 ryanlerch: This must be a duplicate article 21:29:02 and ... i'm not sure where the content is :) 21:29:16 i think the revisions may be messed up. 21:29:26 ! for Open Floor 21:29:34 Uh-oh. That was it. 21:29:40 We should be able to restore that. 21:29:50 "Ryan Lerch is currently editing" 21:30:26 x3mboy: Noted! 21:30:35 downey: i'm out of it now 21:31:06 downey: sorry! 21:31:15 downey: fix away! 21:32:27 can you bump this one to the end? :) 21:32:30 while i fix it 21:32:36 downey: for sure! 21:33:02 i think this should go out as soon as ready, once you are done downey, ill edit this morning 21:33:20 I think this could be Friday's post 21:34:02 jflory7: this friday? 21:34:20 ryanlerch: Errr... today, for you. :) 2016-08-26 @ 8:00 UTC? 21:34:24 :) 21:35:10 #info drafts review 21:35:24 #info security tips 21:35:36 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14015&preview=true 21:35:42 Err, is that a #topic? :) 21:35:53 #yes 21:35:56 I think it should be 21:35:59 LOL 21:36:00 #topic drafts review 21:36:14 sorry guys -- /me is a metting chair noob 21:36:20 ryanlerch++ All good :) 21:37:07 the security tips one still is a WIP, going on the mailing list discussions 21:37:22 Yes 21:37:28 ryanlerch++ 21:37:34 You're doing it great 21:37:49 i think this one is good to stay in drafts -- no rush on it 21:38:01 * jflory7 goes to do a quick peek 21:38:02 I think this one will be a part of a serie, right? 21:38:30 Kohane: I think stickster passed some feedback to you on this one, right? 21:38:50 Maybe, it was suggested to split it and I totally agree 21:39:03 Yes 21:39:38 Kohane: Okay, awesome! You should be okay to keep working through this one then? 21:39:43 Kohane: any idea on when the first one might be ready for review? 21:39:45 Yes, he did. And Martin too, I can't recall his last name 21:39:46 it would be nice if we could have a monthly security tip article -- I would be happy to work on some as part of a team 21:39:50 #info === "Security tips: Using an internet cafe" === 21:39:55 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14015&preview=true 21:40:46 cprofitt: i like that idea! 21:40:49 Cproffit: I'm not sure. It still needs work and so. Pl 21:40:55 cprofitt++ 21:40:55 downey: Karma for cprofitt changed to 7 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:41:06 Damn! 21:41:12 cprofitt: maybe float that idea on the list? i think a discussion there would be good! 21:41:24 * cprofitt nods to ryanlerch 21:41:28 sounds like a plan 21:41:31 Yes, agree 21:41:42 make that an action item for me 21:41:53 Kohane: Think you should be good on this one then? Any idea when you might have the first one ready for review? 21:42:05 #action cprofitt will start discussion on monthly security tip artilce on list. 21:42:10 cprofitt++ 21:42:15 cprofitt++ 21:42:23 I' 21:42:28 cprofitt++ 21:42:43 I'm good on this one, yes 21:43:01 My mobile is driving me crazy, sorry 21:43:35 Kohane: Okay, sounds good. 21:43:37 I think it should be by Sunday. Is it okay? 21:43:50 #action Kohane Continue working on Security Tips article based on feedback from stickster, ping mailing list once ready for review (aiming for Sunday) 21:43:58 Kohane++ 21:44:05 Kohane++ 21:44:19 :) 21:44:35 #info === Other drafts === 21:44:54 #info Remaining drafts require info from stickster and lmacken to review – for tonight, we will skip over these and move to pitches 21:44:57 #topic Pitches 21:45:20 #action ryanlerch to email stickster and lmacken about those two drafts 21:45:48 ryanlerch++ thanks! 21:45:48 #info === "Logical Volume Snapshots, systemd, and Fedora Upgrades" === 21:46:12 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13738&preview=1&_ppp=862ef99140 21:46:12 Oh, hmm, this one just loaded - blank for me. 21:46:20 This has been in pitches since July – I think we clear this one out. 21:46:30 jflory7: holding pen? 21:46:33 Yes, agree 21:46:50 ryanlerch: It could be a good topic for someone in the future - for now, it's an empty article. 21:47:11 jflory7: holdingpen++ 21:47:30 * jflory7 will move this over and go on to the next pitches 21:47:45 ryanlerch not sure if holdingpen needs any more cookies :-) 21:47:46 #agreed No content / updates on article since July, moving to Holding Pen for now 21:47:56 #info === "Building the Fedora Kernel" === 21:48:01 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14011&preview=1&_ppp=679d312b81 21:48:35 This looks like a pretty simple, straightforward one. 21:48:37 jflory7: this one looks like its ready to be reviewed 21:48:43 It's more of a pending review 21:48:45 ryanlerch: Yeah. 21:48:57 Yes 21:49:03 we already have a kernel one for next week though 21:49:22 Want to do this one for the Monday following? 21:49:29 2016-09-05? 21:49:29 jflory7: ack 21:49:29 It has some issues with tag 21:49:39 i can be in charge of editoirals 21:49:45 x3mboy: Yeah, it should be using
 instead, but we can fix that easily :)
21:49:51  ryanlerch: Do you want to take this one?
21:49:57  jflory7: yes please
21:49:59  Beatiful
21:50:15  s/Beatiful/Beautiful
21:50:19  #action ryanlerch Edit and create featured image for "Building the Fedora Kernel", for a publication on 2016-09-05
21:50:26  ryanlerch++
21:50:40 * jflory7 switches this one to pending review
21:50:55  #agreed Article is more of a finished draft than a pitch - moved to pending review
21:51:13  #info === "PostgreSQL in Fedora: News and Basics" ===
21:51:15  #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14181&preview=1&_ppp=decaa22d75
21:51:41  This one also appears like a finished draft.
21:51:58  jflory7: yes there was a bit of discussion on the mailing list about this one
21:52:12  ryanlerch: Oh, I completely missed it for now - can you do a quick fill-in?
21:52:17  splitting this one into two is probably a good idea
21:52:27  I really love this one
21:52:30  i.e. whats new in postgresql
21:52:35  and then the getting started post
21:52:44  I can give +1 to it
21:52:46  That makes sense - it definitely is on the longer side, but I love the content.
21:52:49  +1 from me.
21:52:54  the whats new would probably be good for next week TBH
21:53:01 * jflory7 switches this over to draft status
21:53:05  ryanlerch: Perhaps Friday?
21:53:12  jflory7: +1 from me
21:53:17  2016-09-02
21:53:37  author is in EU i think, and responsive via the mailing list
21:53:51  Excellent. I could reach out to the author on this one?
21:54:21  Is there something wrong with last 
 tag?
21:54:26  Yes, I think so.
21:54:44  x3mboy: Looks like some kind of weird highlighting.
21:54:46  Ok, it's not just me
21:54:58  x3mboy: We should be able to fix that, I think I've seen that before, but can't remember what triggers it.
21:54:58 * x3mboy exhales
21:55:05  yeah that is a pre in a code
21:55:11  I think jflory should reach out to author
21:55:13  or a code in a pre
21:55:17  Oh cool
21:55:30  sorry, daughter fell down stairs... was SFK for a bit
21:55:38  cprofitt: eep!
21:55:46  #action jflory7 Reach out to hhorak on list about splitting articles into two, aiming for a first part ("What's new in PostgreSQL?") for Friday, 2016-09-02
21:55:49  cprofitt, everything is ok?
21:56:13  cprofitt: Doesn't sound good – hope she's alright!
21:56:18  #action ryanlerch to open featured image tickets for all todays posts
21:56:28  ryanlerch++
21:56:41  yes, small amount of stairs... mostly just the wind knocked out of her. She wanted a hug mostly.
21:56:50  villadalmine, o/
21:57:02  #info === "Using Ansible to Provision Vagrant Boxes" ===
21:57:05  #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14222&preview=1&_ppp=9c40d0f1dc
21:57:15  jflory7: this one is amazing too
21:57:27  not a pitch either, really :)
21:57:31  cprofitt: Good thing you're there to provide :)
21:57:51  ryanlerch: Whoa!
21:57:59  This one is totally in full review status
21:58:07  Looks super nice scrolling through
21:58:09  This one is really good
21:58:11  +1
21:58:49  would be nice if the image at the bottom was of a Fedora server, not Ubuntu though.
21:58:50  Just a little edit about  and 
 again, but content and structure is amazing
21:59:04  looks like it is also here: http://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/08/22/provisioning-vagrant-boxes-using-ansible/
21:59:15  but, still happy to have it on the magazine
21:59:22  too
21:59:36  I would be +1 for editing and reviewing this one for the first full week of September
21:59:42  Yeah, it's the same article, the same author
21:59:44  cprofitt: Yeah, I think we could maybe supply that
21:59:57  cprofitt: i actually don't mind it
22:00:12  it sorta reinforces the fact its a VM
22:00:13  I think is a bad idea
22:00:34  ryanlerch: in that perspective I agree...
22:00:35  the configuration in the article is about creating an ubuntu VM
22:00:46  Changing the image will not fit with the content
22:01:19  I agree x3mboy
22:01:25  Ah, yeah, I see that now
22:02:06 * jflory7 lost track of the time
22:02:20  Oh, we pass the hour!
22:02:36  ryanlerch: I have to head out to catch a bus in a few minutes – would you be able to finish this one out and close the meeting?
22:02:47 * downey fires up the time machine
22:02:48  i think we are almost done!
22:02:54 * cprofitt nods
22:02:58  #topic open floor
22:03:00  we covered a lot today
22:03:03  !
22:03:08  !
22:03:13  I know x3mboy had an item here too he mentioned earlier :)
22:03:16  #info Congrats to jflory7! our new editor in chief
22:03:20  I apreciate everyones efforts... great job everyone.
22:03:23  jflory7++
22:03:34  Yeah! Congrats jflory7!
22:03:50  ryanlerch: Thanks :) Learned from the best!
22:03:54  :)
22:04:01  x3mboy: did you have an item?
22:04:02 * jflory7 also has a quick announcement to squeeze in, then really has to run for the bus
22:04:06  Ok, i have a post from a blog that i like to translate to the magazine
22:04:15  I mention that in the other channel
22:04:33  #info === The Fedora Magazine is moving! ===
22:04:34  I have the permission of the author to use it with mention
22:04:35  #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/OG4KC4EASDH7IBTHWFBQSXUWV6WGVO4N/
22:04:55  So, i want to know if that is ok with the team
22:04:59  x3mboy: i think it might be okay
22:05:09  #info On Monday of next week, the Fedora Magazine will be moving to a new mailing list and IRC channel. Please make sure to subscribe to the new list to keep up with Magazine activities.
22:05:10  might be worth asking on the list about it
22:05:23  Monday the 29th?
22:05:26  ryanlerch +1
22:05:32  I will sent an email
22:05:34 * cprofitt smiles
22:05:36  x3mboy: I mentioned in #fedora-mktg that you have my +1 on this one. We'll want to credit original author correctly.
22:05:39  off to change my irssi config
22:05:40  ryanlerch: Yes.
22:05:49 * jflory7 heads off to catch the bus now
22:05:52  FYI, I have fixed https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14234&preview=1&_ppp=4bef738dca after some editor weirdness, should be looking correct for everyone now.
22:05:58  Sorry for bailing – thanks for coming out tonight, everyone!!
22:06:20  Ok, i have other few ideas, but i will email you on that
22:06:23  eof
22:06:42  #endmeeting