14:02:16 <bkp> #startmeeting Fedora Marketing meeting (2016-11-08)
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14:02:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing_meeting_(2016-11-08)'
14:02:26 <bkp> #meetingname marketing
14:02:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'marketing'
14:02:37 <bkp> #meetingname marketing
14:02:37 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'marketing'
14:02:44 <bkp> #topic Agenda
14:02:52 <bkp> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2016-11-08
14:03:01 <bkp> #topic Roll Call
14:03:08 <bkp> #info Name; Timezone; Other sub-projects / interest areas
14:03:21 <bkp> Please chime in if you are here.
14:03:50 <bkp> #info Brian Proffitt; UTC-5, Social media/marketing
14:04:30 <mailga> #info Gabri; UTC+1; amby, mktg, fed-join, websites, FAmSCo, commops...
14:05:13 <bkp> Hello mailga !
14:05:19 <bkp> #chair mailga
14:05:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: bkp mailga
14:05:36 <mailga> hello bkp atleast I'm able to make it, today.
14:06:12 <bkp> Well, let's see if enough people show this week. Anyone else in attendance?
14:07:01 <bkm> Hi
14:07:21 <bkp> linuxmodder? dhanesh95? Southern_Gentlem?
14:07:27 <bkp> Hi bkm!
14:07:35 <bkp> #chair bkm
14:07:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: bkm bkp mailga
14:07:58 <dhanesh95> #info Dhanesh B. Sabane, UTC +5:30, Marketing, CommOps, Packaging, ML and more
14:08:04 <dhanesh95> Sorry for being late
14:08:07 <bkp> NP
14:08:08 <Southern_Gentlem> huh??
14:08:11 <dhanesh95> (again)
14:08:15 <bkp> Meeting Southern_Gentlem ?
14:08:25 <bkp> #chair dhanesh95
14:08:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: bkm bkp dhanesh95 mailga
14:08:29 <Southern_Gentlem> i am here , but i am also at work
14:08:45 <bkp> Lurk away, Southern_Gentlem
14:09:05 <h4xr> Hello, h4xr here
14:09:27 <bkp> Hello h4xr , are you new?
14:09:39 <bkp> Don't recognize your nick, sorry
14:09:43 <h4xr> Yes
14:09:47 <bkp> But you are welcome.
14:10:07 <bkp> Okay, I think this is enough to start.
14:10:09 <mailga> welcome h4xr
14:10:18 <bkp> #topic Announcements
14:10:28 <bkp> #info === Fedora 25 Linux to Offer Better Dual-GPU Integration in the GNOME 3.22 Desktop ===
14:10:39 <bkp> #link http://news.softpedia.com/news/fedora-25-linux-to-offer-better-dual-gpu-integration-in-the-gnome-3-22-desktop-509680.shtml
14:10:42 <bkp> #info Overview of Bastien Nocera's blog on Fedora 25
14:11:00 <bkp> #info === Fedora at LinuxCon Europe 2016 ===
14:11:01 <bkp> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-linuxcon-europe-2016/
14:11:03 <bkp> #info Trip report from Berlin
14:11:06 <bkp> #info === Fedora at Ohio Linuxfest 2016 ===
14:11:08 <bkp> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-ohio-linuxfest-2016/
14:11:11 <bkp> #info Fedora in the Buckeye State
14:11:14 <bkp> #info === Heroes of Fedora (HoF) – F25 Beta ===
14:11:16 <bkp> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-of-fedora-hof-f25-beta/
14:11:19 <bkp> #info Who's been the most helpful with Fedora 25 beta
14:11:22 <bkp> #info === Flock Stories 2016, Episode 1: Redon Skikuli ===
14:11:24 <bkp> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-redon-skikuli/
14:11:27 <bkp> #info A new Flock-based podcast!
14:11:30 <bkp> #info === Flock Stories 2016, Episode 2: Jonathan Dieter ===
14:11:31 <dhanesh95> Dual-GPU integration++
14:11:32 <bkp> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-jonathan-dieter/
14:11:35 <bkp> #info Using Fedora in schools
14:11:38 <bkp> Two weeks' worth of announcements
14:11:49 <bkp> dhanesh95: Agreed
14:12:06 <h4xr> Dual gpu++
14:12:56 <Southern_Gentlem> nice to know my ambassador report got reused
14:13:39 <bkp> Southern_Gentlem: Is that good or bad?
14:14:00 <Southern_Gentlem> i am going to go look at my licensing on my blog
14:14:19 <bkp> Southern_Gentlem: Is it the OH LinuxFest report?
14:14:32 <Southern_Gentlem> yep for the ambassadors
14:14:40 <bkp> Because yes, if that's a problem, let us know.
14:15:02 <Southern_Gentlem> it would have nice for someone to have asked me to reuse it
14:15:11 <bkp> Southern_Gentlem: Agreed
14:15:20 * Rhea waves, hiding in a corner...
14:15:32 <bkp> Hi Rhea !
14:16:11 <bkp> #action Follow up on repurposing of Southern_Gentlem blog for Fedora Community Blog without notification and possibly without consent.
14:16:47 <bkp> Let's roll forward. Southern_Gentlem, if it is a problem, ping.
14:16:58 <bkp> #topic Action items from last meetings
14:17:11 <bkp> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-10-25/marketing.2016-10-25-13.01.html
14:17:20 <bkp> No.
14:17:55 <bkp> Oh, yes, that works, because we cancelled last week's meeting, never mind
14:18:04 <bkp> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward.
14:18:27 <bkp> #info === [COMPLETE] (Ticket #243) bkp will see if the Desktop group is gathering screenshots we can use for marketing purposes ===
14:18:37 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/243
14:18:38 <bkp> #info No response from Desktop/Workstation group
14:18:53 <bkp> #info === [COMPLETE] (Ticket #235) Cleanup of marketing group list ===
14:18:53 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/235
14:18:53 <bkp> #info mailga have an update last week: all responses gathered, about to actually modify FAS
14:19:08 <bkp> mailga, how is this coming?
14:20:55 <bkp> Okay, will circle back in tickets.
14:21:10 <bkp> #info === [IN PROGRESS] marketing_team Release Activities page needs to be updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_activities ===
14:21:13 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/242
14:21:15 <bkp> #info linuxmodder to address this
14:21:34 <mailga> ups, sorry bkp I was updating the ticket.
14:21:43 <bkp> No worries, mailga
14:22:21 <mailga> can I update also here?
14:22:23 <bkp> #info page looks the same, will contact linuxmodder on status
14:23:09 <bkp> mailga of course
14:23:44 <bkp> Want to do it in the ticket section of the meeting?
14:24:16 <mailga> well, I processed the ones who replied to my mail (or the ones who as not a valid mail). I'll try to reach others one to one. So I'm closing the ticket as fixed.
14:24:25 <bkp> Okay
14:24:35 * dhanesh95 will be back in a few minutes
14:25:22 <bkp> #info Ticket #235 Replies processed, will continue to reach out as other candidates appear. Closing ticket.
14:25:38 <mailga> just done.
14:25:47 <bkp> Okay dhanesh95 . We won't volunteer you for anything. :D
14:25:59 <bkp> mailga++
14:26:17 <bkp> #info == [IN PROGRESS] Fedora Magazine feed fails to validate ==
14:26:17 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/241
14:26:37 <bkp> #info Contacted ryanlerch and puiterwijk last week to address issue; they referred to infra team.
14:26:52 <bkp> #info == [IN PROGRESS] Fedora 25 screenshots page ==
14:26:52 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/243
14:26:52 <bkp> #info bkp and linuxmodder to work on F25 screenshots page
14:27:17 <bkp> #info bkp to work on this tonight while watching the election.
14:27:50 <bkp> #topic Tickets
14:27:58 <bkp> #topic Tickets
14:28:07 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issues?tags=meeting
14:28:28 <bkp> #info === Ticket #235 ===
14:28:28 <bkp> #info "Marketing group list FAS cleaning"
14:28:29 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/235
14:28:44 <bkp> #info Ticket closed, thanks mailga
14:29:24 <bkp> #info === Ticket #235 ===
14:29:24 <bkp> #info "Marketing group list FAS cleaning"
14:29:44 <bkp> Copy and paste is not my friend today
14:29:53 <bkp> #info === Ticket #241 ===
14:29:53 <bkp> #info "Fedora Magazine feed fails to validate
14:29:53 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/241
14:29:54 <bkp> #info Feed still invalidated; ryanlerch and puiterwijk contacted
14:30:00 <mailga> bkp++
14:30:00 <zodbot> mailga: Karma for bproffit changed to 8 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:30:03 <mailga> :-D
14:30:19 <bkp> #action bkp to follow up with infra team to see if this is fixed
14:30:32 <bkp> Great. *That* I get a cookie for.
14:30:36 <bkp> :P
14:30:49 <bkp> #info === Ticket #242 ===
14:30:49 <bkp> #info "Update release activity steps / process on the wiki"
14:30:49 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/242
14:30:50 <bkp> #info On the Marketing wiki, the Release activities is barren and can be expanded to be more comprehensive of activities the Marketing team performs each release.
14:30:59 * mailga says it was for the copy/paste issue....
14:31:12 <bkp> Oh, I know.
14:31:54 <bkp> #info linuxmodder to hopefully report status
14:32:05 <bkp> #info === Ticket #243 ===
14:32:06 <bkp> #info "Fedora 25 Screenshots for Marketing Wiki"
14:32:06 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/243
14:32:07 <bkp> #info Adding F25 screenshots to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F25_Screenshots
14:32:35 <bkp> #info bkp to complete tonight (11.8.16)
14:33:38 <bkp> Okay, moving on
14:33:45 <bkp> #topic Tickets
14:33:54 <bkp> #topic Upcoming Tasks
14:34:02 <bkp> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-marketing-tasks.html
14:34:19 <bkp> #info (1) Marketing: Final Screen Shots (Tue 2016-11-01)
14:34:30 <bkp> ^^^ Being worked on
14:34:37 <bkp> #info (2) Brief news distribution network (Tue 2016-11-01)
14:34:56 <bkp> ^^^ Talking to people, it sound like this is obsolete.
14:35:12 <bkp> #info (3) Create GA Announcement (Wed 2016-11-09)
14:35:55 <bkp> #info Release announcement is ready to edit/give feedback at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F25_general_release_announcement
14:36:27 <bkp> #action All feedback welcome
14:36:51 <bkp> #info (4) Fedora 25 Final Release Readiness Meeting (Thu 2016-11-10)
14:36:51 <bkp> #info (5) Final Release Public Availability (GA) (Tue 2016-11-15)
14:36:51 <bkp> #info (6) Marketing Retrospective (Tue 2016-11-29)
14:36:52 <bkp> #info (7) Monitor news sites to provide corrections & info (Mon 2016-12-05)
14:37:06 <bkp> Any questions or comments on these tasks?
14:37:11 <mailga> bkp: I haven't seen the readiness reminder for mktg in ML, my fault?
14:37:32 <mailga> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/4855/
14:37:58 <bkp> mailga: I don't think it's you.
14:38:05 <h4xr> One small question
14:38:06 <dhanesh95> bkp: Do we have a list of news sites which usually post release news?
14:38:06 <bkp> I have not seen it.
14:38:25 <mailga> jkurik: around?
14:38:28 <bkp> dhanesh95: No, that's why I asked around last week.
14:38:31 <h4xr> The feedback has to be provided on wiki or can i mention something here also
14:38:37 <bkp> h4xr: Go ahead.
14:38:50 <jkurik> mailga: hi
14:38:53 <bkp> h4xr: Either way
14:39:22 <h4xr> Just read through the release announcement, can we break the details under the fedora workstation into some bullets
14:39:23 <mailga> hello jkurik. We haven't seen the rediness reminder for mktg, do you need one of us?
14:39:36 <dhanesh95> bkp: Maybe compile a list of all news sites?
14:39:37 <jkurik> mailga: it has been sent yesterday
14:39:50 <h4xr> The current version looks a bit cluttered
14:39:52 <jkurik> mailga: yes, I will need someone from Marketing
14:40:07 <h4xr> Dividing into bullets may help increase the readability :)
14:40:15 <mailga> jkurik: ok thanks! one of us will be there.
14:40:32 <bkp> h4xr: We could, although we did that in the beta release announcement and there was feedback about the announcement being too low-level and not having a better narrative.
14:41:14 <bkp> mailga: You want to go? jflory7 is supposed to be there, but can you back him up if he does not go?
14:41:18 <jkurik> mailga: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/QHXZE25SRWB6IERBCVO6M4TNV4VK4IAQ/
14:41:34 <jkurik> mailga: ok, thanks for attending the readiness meeting :)
14:41:40 <h4xr> Okay, maybe we can somehow get a better readability through some other way :)
14:41:45 <bkp> #action Revise Workstation section of GA release announcement to make features stand out.
14:41:49 <mailga> jkurik: thanks, I missed the mail.
14:42:36 <mailga> bkp: if jflory is there yet, he maybe can do also the mktg readiness. What do you think?
14:42:57 <bkp> dhanesh95: We can, but typically RHT PR handles distribution for us.
14:43:15 <bkp> mailga: Sounds good.
14:43:28 <dhanesh95> bkp: Roger that
14:43:50 <bkp> h4xr: Any suggestions you have on the announcement, by all means come to the wiki
14:43:51 <mailga> bkp: are you able to reach jflory7 to update him?
14:44:25 <mailga> bkp: for announcement I have nothing to say.
14:44:29 <bkp> mailga: I can email him.
14:44:46 <h4xr> bkp: sure
14:44:54 <dhanesh95> So basically we have to correct news sites which we stumble upon in case there are any mistakes in the news
14:45:13 <mailga> bkp: I see him logged, but I don't know which engagements he has.
14:45:17 <bkp> dhanesh95: That's why that task is obsolete; we don't handle the distribution of the releases now.
14:45:34 <bkp> mailga: jflory7 likely is in class now.
14:45:52 <dhanesh95> bkp: Ahh.. Now I understand
14:45:56 <bkp> Hang on, let's shift to open floor.
14:45:58 <mailga> bkp: roger.
14:46:05 <bkp> #topic Open Floor
14:46:16 <bkp> Okay, let's discuss scheduling.
14:46:19 <bkp> If I amy
14:46:22 <bkp> may
14:46:32 <dhanesh95> Sure
14:47:07 <bkp> Right now this meeting is scheduled for 1300 UTC. But the Fedora calendar shows it at 1400 UTC, because it was scheduled to daylight saving time.
14:47:09 <mailga> one question about dhanesh95, I'm sponsironing his request to join the group. Is there anyone having doubts? Can I aplly?
14:47:30 <bkp> mailga: By all means!
14:47:50 <dhanesh95> Thanks mailga
14:47:53 <dhanesh95> :)
14:48:04 <bkp> So my question is: keep at 1300 UTC, or let the meeting slide to 1400 UTC as the calendar shows?
14:48:19 <mailga> just apllying.... bkp removed! :-D
14:48:27 <bkp> Or try to find another time again that jflory7 can attend?
14:48:35 <bkp> Wait, what?
14:48:45 <dhanesh95> For me, both the timeslots are feasible
14:48:50 <dhanesh95> For now
14:48:51 <mailga> bkp: :-)
14:49:09 <Rhea> Justin is unavailable these two weeks, will be back this Sunday.
14:49:19 <bkm> How many other people would want to attend but cannot?
14:49:22 <dhanesh95> But after school starts, 1400UTC would be more feasible
14:49:24 * mailga likes kidding...
14:49:36 <bkp> Rhea: Ah, I did not know that.
14:49:40 <Rhea> He is not asleep now, just not available..
14:49:48 <bkp> mailga: You should likely attend that meeting.
14:49:59 <bkp> dhanesh95: Noted on time.
14:50:24 <bkp> Sounds like letting it slip to 1400 will work.
14:50:34 <bkp> Any other open floor items?
14:50:45 <Rhea> Timewise this one is fine for him I believe, he wasa awake for a few hours (telegram) and wednesdays he always shows up for diversity meeting at... 12 or 13h UTC?
14:51:18 <mailga> bkp: it's the same for me, both timing are working time, so I can make it but if there's some working issues, I cannot be on the keyboard.
14:51:24 <dhanesh95> bkp: Any tasks I can try my hands at?
14:51:38 <bkp> bkm: I am not sure how many more would come; but attendance is down and I don't know if it's the meeting time or something else.
14:51:59 <mailga> bkp: usually during the summer I'm really engaged with work.
14:52:14 <bkp> dhanesh95: Screenshots?
14:52:38 <bkm> Can volunteer to ask on mailing lists and perhaps run another poll if this would be helpful.
14:52:41 <bkp> mailga: Noted.
14:52:43 <dhanesh95> bkp: Will do.. Any specific requirements?
14:52:54 <mailga> bkp bkm it's only a willing question. As usual mktg interest become low after some time.
14:53:10 <dhanesh95> bkm: I was going to mention that.. a whenisgood link should work I suppose
14:53:16 <bkp> dhanesh95: See https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/243
14:53:28 <dhanesh95> bkp: +1
14:53:57 <bkp> dhanesh95: Match screenshot size with last release's (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F24_Screenshots)
14:53:58 <bkm> dhanesh95: Ok. Can set that up if helpful.
14:54:24 <dhanesh95> bkp: Noted
14:54:26 <bkp> #action bkm to set up whenisgood poll for marketing meeting time
14:55:00 <bkp> #action dhanesh95 to assist wtih screenshots for F25 (ticket #243)
14:55:17 <dhanesh95> bkm++
14:55:22 <dhanesh95> bkp++
14:55:34 <bkp> dhanesh95: Just email me (bkp@redhat.com) and let me know which environments you want to take so we don't overlap, please
14:55:46 <bkp> Backscrolling...
14:56:07 <bkp> Okay, don't think I missed anything.
14:56:16 <dhanesh95> bkp: I'll take up KDE and GNOME
14:56:21 <bkp> Any other topics in the last 5 minutes?
14:56:26 <bkp> dhanesh95: +1
14:56:54 <bkp> Going once...
14:57:45 <Rhea> Bunnies are awesome.
14:57:49 <bkp> Southern_Gentlem: Please ping me with follow up at my email (above).
14:58:01 <bkp> Rhea: We will all need bunnies after today.
14:58:12 <bkp> Going twice...
14:58:53 <Rhea> (\_/)
14:58:55 <Rhea> (^_^)
14:58:57 <Rhea> @(")_(")
14:59:26 <bkp> US citizens, remember to vote! Everyone else, be ready for anything! The bunny-pocalypse is apparently nigh!
14:59:47 <c0mrad3> !
14:59:50 <bkp> And we're outta here!
14:59:55 <bkp> #endmeeting