17:36:04 <bexelbie> #startmeeting Mindshare 17:36:04 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 10 17:36:04 2018 UTC. 17:36:04 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:36:04 <zodbot> The chair is bexelbie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:36:04 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:36:04 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 17:36:05 <bexelbie> #chair jflory7 jwf bex bexelbie jsmith mleonova nb robyduck sumantrom x3mboy 17:36:05 <bexelbie> #topic Roll Call 17:36:05 <bexelbie> .hello bex 17:36:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: bex bexelbie jflory7 jsmith jwf mleonova nb robyduck sumantrom x3mboy 17:36:06 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bexelbie@redhat.com> 17:39:26 <bexelbie> jsmith, nb x3mboy sumantro 17:39:29 <bexelbie> hello? 17:39:59 <fmindshare-tg> <bexelbie> @jaredsmith @nebebout 17:40:00 <fmindshare-tg> <bexelbie> @x3mboy 17:40:11 <fmindshare-tg> <bexelbie> @jwf 17:40:15 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> I'm bere 17:40:22 <fmindshare-tg> Justin (@jwflory) has joined the Telegram Group! 17:40:23 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> @jwflory 17:40:24 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> hi 17:40:35 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> @jwflory 17:40:40 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> am kind of here 17:40:41 <bexelbie> welcome all, ready to start? 17:40:48 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Yes 17:40:57 <bexelbie> #topic Agenda 17:40:57 <bexelbie> Proposed: Tickets: 48, 49, 38, subproject report (sumantro) then Open Floor 17:40:57 <bexelbie> Any suggested additions or modifications? 17:41:26 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> ok 17:41:31 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Tickets will be discussed on Pagure, right? 17:41:47 <bexelbie> x3mboy, I am proposing 48, 49, and 38 17:41:50 <bexelbie> do you want to add others? 17:42:04 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Ok, I'm going to rephrase 17:42:21 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Fund request tickets will be discussed on Pagure, right? 17:42:40 <bexelbie> x3mboy, yes - I think the only ones today are 48, 49 - are there more? 17:42:40 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> I think is faster and easier that way 17:42:49 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> IDK 17:42:56 <bexelbie> there is one more that needs an answer 17:43:14 <bexelbie> in the absence of more items, let's get started 17:43:23 <bexelbie> #topic #48 SeaGL Funding Request 17:43:24 <bexelbie> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/48 17:44:11 <bexelbie> This event seems highly aligned and its under $100 17:44:15 <bexelbie> I think this is a no-brainer 17:44:37 <bexelbie> any comments/votes? 17:45:34 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> one sec 17:46:14 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> +1 17:47:36 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> @bexelbie we haven’t used any of the hex stickers that NA ordered yet, have we? how many did we order? 17:47:45 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i need to have you ship me some for lisa 17:48:02 <bexelbie> please put in a ticket with the shipping needs 17:48:13 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> ok 17:48:53 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i am almost out of swag now, i would like to see us get more ink pens 17:49:01 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> but i need to put in a ticket 17:49:08 <bexelbie> Let's talk about swag in the open floor 17:49:11 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i have pens for lisa but then will be out 17:49:12 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> ok 17:49:14 <bexelbie> is anyone else going to vote on this ticket? 17:50:29 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> +1 17:51:10 <bexelbie> jwf jsmith ? 17:51:12 <bexelbie> sumantro, ? 17:51:15 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Sorry, my connection move to H+ 17:51:25 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Soooo slow 17:52:58 <bexelbie> x3mboy - I am going call this approved we have a +1 in ticket and 3 here 17:53:06 <bexelbie> if you have a problem with it, bring it up as we go please 17:53:17 <bexelbie> #topic #49 Fedora release party at CERN 17:53:17 <bexelbie> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/49 17:53:27 <bexelbie> this is also a sticker request no money 17:53:34 <bexelbie> this is a sticker request no money 17:53:36 <bexelbie> again, a no-brainer in my eyes 17:53:37 <bexelbie> +1 17:54:11 <bexelbie> nb, jwf sumantro x3mboy 17:54:24 <bexelbie> @nebebout ^^ 17:54:40 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> +1 17:54:45 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> This sounds super awesome 17:54:50 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> I saw it this morning 17:55:12 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Also it would be really good for us as a project to advertise our presence in CERN 17:55:19 <bexelbie> This is approved, it is stickers :) .. I'll bring this back up in open floor 17:55:38 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> I knew it 17:55:41 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> :-) 17:55:44 <bexelbie> #topic #38 Announcement of F29 release parties 17:55:44 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> :-P 17:55:44 <bexelbie> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/38 17:55:49 <bexelbie> x3mboy, any updates here? 17:55:54 <fmindshare-tg> <jwflory> I'm about to get into class, I won't be able to participate today 17:56:07 <bexelbie> @jwflory have a good class 17:56:39 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> To be done today, max tomorrow morning 17:56:54 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> It's first on my to-do list 17:57:01 <sumantro> +1 on #49 17:57:11 <bexelbie> x3mboy, cool 17:57:13 <bexelbie> #topic Subproject Report to the Council 17:57:13 <bexelbie> Take it away sumantro 17:57:51 <fmindshare-tg> <jwflory> Thanks! 17:58:28 <sumantro> We had a council meeting Today and mattdm asked me to showcase the mindshare's achievements and how council can help us reach our goals. 17:59:03 <sumantro> After a good discussion with bexelbie , we have narrowed it down to couple of interesting points 17:59:19 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> +1 to the CERN stickers 18:01:26 <bexelbie> I am going to let sumantro type the points, but I think they are good ;) 18:01:39 <sumantro> 1. The Advocate program: The process which will enable a lot of folks to help us out. The key point is the zero approval requirement for $100 or below events. The release parties are a good example for such events. 18:03:45 <sumantro> 2. The regional budget allocation Vs The mindshare central budget: The region member will have to come down to mindshare repo and file tickets which already is happening. Yaay! We would like to see an official announcement from Council on that. 18:06:46 <sumantro> 3. Emeritus Amby: nb is working to help us out with a process and a document. The document will specify why and how it we will be measuring the amby activities and bidding them farewell 18:09:53 <sumantro> 4. Release Parties is not (just) for the Amby: Working on increasing the outreach has always been the goal for Amby but we have thought of giving the power to everyone who wants to just celebrate the release and cut the cake :).. it is always nice, when people dont want much commitment but still want to have some fun celebrating the new fedora release as they upgrade their system 18:10:14 <bexelbie> while I may have helped sumantro brainstorm on this, I think it is a good set of points 18:10:20 <bexelbie> wdy(a)t 18:10:35 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> +1 18:10:37 <bexelbie> unrelated wdy't should mean "what do y'all think" 18:10:39 <bexelbie> :D 18:12:09 <bexelbie> any suggestions for additions/edits 18:12:18 * bexelbie eyes the time and remembers there are two topics in open floor 18:12:23 <bexelbie> that we know about so far 18:13:14 <bexelbie> ok, sumantro good luck 18:13:28 <bexelbie> also, can you run our meeting next week sumantro ? I have an appointment I can't cancel 18:13:48 <sumantro> yup! :) 18:13:51 <bexelbie> sweet 18:13:53 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Looks really good to me 18:13:57 <bexelbie> #topic fast approval formalize 18:13:57 <bexelbie> I'd like us to formally state that we can approve the $100 and less tickets with 2 +1s and 3 days open. WDYT? This will speed up our response time and make us more predictable. If we have an explosion of requ 18:13:57 <bexelbie> ests (a fantastic problem to have) we can revisit this. We have budget, lets make impact. 18:14:10 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> +1 18:14:14 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> +1 18:14:17 <bexelbie> I think this is probably non-controversial and may not need much discussion 18:14:41 <sumantro> +1 18:14:44 <bexelbie> I will open a ticket and post these +1s and consider it lazy approved if no objections by Wednesday 18:14:47 <bexelbie> #topic swag 18:14:56 <bexelbie> go @nebebout 18:15:36 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> what swag do we have in tower 18:15:46 <bexelbie> yes 18:15:55 * bexelbie goes to look for his inventory - that he has on his list to make public 18:16:29 <bexelbie> pens, stickers (of various kinds), lanyards, usb keys 18:16:36 <bexelbie> somethings like usb keys are very small count 18:16:43 <bexelbie> some things like sticker, can be very large :) 18:17:00 <bexelbie> like the key cap stickers we have 4500 we think - because counting them would be hilariously terrible 18:17:15 <bexelbie> I can give details as requested 18:17:26 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> nice 18:17:31 <bexelbie> and yes, this needs to be tracked - and is on my list 18:17:52 <bexelbie> a keycap sticker is a very tiny sticker that can cover up the writing on a keybaord key 18:18:02 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> so, i have a lot of case badges (the metallic stickers) 18:18:04 <bexelbie> so, you can use it, for example, to replace your windows logo witha fedora logo 18:18:19 * bexelbie would love to get some casebadges in the swag depot 18:18:25 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> and a few pens, planning on taking pens to lisa, and about 300 each of the stickers (not hex) 18:18:46 <bexelbie> why no hex? 18:18:46 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i have some shirts i’m taking to lisa, and i have a few earbuds (not many) 18:18:59 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> @bexelbie you haven’t sent me any :) 18:19:14 <bexelbie> put in a ticket, I can add some for lisa 18:19:23 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> and we never ordered them before. NA ordered some at the end of last FY but they were sent to tower 18:19:38 <bexelbie> we can make some stickers happen I am sure 18:19:45 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> I want to send my case badges to tower 18:19:49 <bexelbie> when you file the ticket please include attendance estimates for lisa and numbers on what you're already taking 18:19:50 <bexelbie> so we have it 18:20:07 <bexelbie> we can work that out too - email is better for that as it is a weirder process (bexelbie@rh.c please) 18:20:21 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i think both of the other shippers are basically out 18:20:40 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> of everything, i think 18:21:06 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i really agree with bex to just have RH ship everything. 18:21:15 <bexelbie> ok, sounsd like we should have a swag conversation to make this work great for people 18:21:39 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i’ll be basically out except for case badges after LISA 18:22:07 <bexelbie> maybe we could do an na hackfest/fad and discuss this and the event kits and making stuff work great 18:22:18 <bexelbie> and replicating that for THE WORLD 18:22:25 <bexelbie> and whatever planet we target first for mindshare 18:22:42 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> yeah 18:22:55 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i’ll talk to the other NA ann’s 18:22:58 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> ambs 18:23:04 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> darn autocorrect 18:23:30 <bexelbie> we should get an ambassador named ann to make that last statement true :) 18:24:39 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> #proposal vFAD for Mindshare to discuss current talks that should be happening and to state our current status as team/subproject 18:25:39 <sumantro> when will this be? 18:25:46 <bexelbie> sure - can you draft an agenda and lets look at this for early next year (imho) given the upcoming holidays and stuff 18:25:55 <bexelbie> #topic vfad proposal 18:26:09 <bexelbie> @nebebout was that enough swag convo - didn't want to cut you off 18:26:16 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> that was enough 18:26:16 <sumantro> bexelbie +1 18:26:33 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> /me doesn't propose a FAD because he just got a new job and it can't/don't want to ask for permission to travel 18:26:36 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i am going to look into proposing a NA in person hack fest 18:26:48 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> i have talked a little to bex about it 18:27:02 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> I can't travel to US 18:27:06 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> but i need to see what the other NA people think 18:27:16 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> @x3mboy for NA ambs not mindshare 18:27:19 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Need a visa that is a little nightmare for my people to get 18:27:21 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Oh, sorry 18:27:24 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> I misunderstood 18:27:26 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> we are having some challenges in NA 18:27:52 <bexelbie> x3mboy, I htink a vfad is good 18:27:57 <bexelbie> let's just pull together the agenda 18:28:04 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> I can draft an agenda for a vFAD, in the wiki 18:28:04 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> :-D 18:28:21 <bexelbie> I think an NA in person hack/fad is good too because that community is affect a lot by the adances in mindshare and we need to give them space to plan 18:28:26 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> yes i think a mindshare vfad is good, i have a hard time traveling more than i already do 18:29:57 <bexelbie> other commetns on tickets and the rest, if not I'm going to call it 18:30:04 <bexelbie> #info sumantro will run the meeting next week 18:30:09 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> 1. Amby's 18:30:09 <fmindshare-tg> 2. Budget/swag 18:30:10 <fmindshare-tg> 3. Council representative 18:30:10 <fmindshare-tg> 4. Amby's 18:30:10 <fmindshare-tg> 5. Dead tickets that need discussion, e.g. profiles/targets 18:30:10 <fmindshare-tg> 6. Communication with tech teams/objective leaders 18:30:24 <bexelbie> #action x3mboy working on vfad agenda and release party email 18:30:33 <bexelbie> #action bex to update tickets with votes and notes and start ticket on approval 18:30:55 <bexelbie> #action nb to work with bex on lisa swag, and other NA swag ... and consider na hack with other ambys 18:30:58 <bexelbie> I think I got it all 18:31:08 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Nothing else from me 18:31:11 <fmindshare-tg> <nebebout> sounds good 18:31:11 <bexelbie> 1 and 4 are the same x3mboy :) 18:31:22 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> I know 18:31:30 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> I did it on purpose 18:31:32 <bexelbie> ty all - x3mboy this is a good start - looking forward to the wiki 18:31:36 <bexelbie> x3mboy, :D :D :D 18:32:14 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Also for the meetobot 18:32:19 <fmindshare-tg> <x3mboy> Meeting* 18:33:01 <bexelbie> #endmeeting