13:00:28 <riecatnor[m]> #startmeeting Mindshare Committee
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13:00:45 <riecatnor[m]> #meetingname Mindshare
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13:00:51 <riecatnor[m]> #chair bt0dotninja codeblock tyll nb pbokoc riecatnor thunderbirdtr siddharthvipul relrod mizmo @OnuralpSezer[m] @PetrBokoc[m]
13:00:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: @OnuralpSezer[m] @PetrBokoc[m] bt0dotninja codeblock mizmo nb pbokoc relrod riecatnor riecatnor[m] siddharthvipul thunderbirdtr tyll
13:00:57 <riecatnor[m]> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
13:01:04 <riecatnor[m]> #topic Hello
13:01:07 <OnuralpSezer[m]> .hello thunderbirdtr
13:01:08 <zodbot> OnuralpSezer[m]: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com>
13:01:12 <riecatnor[m]> .hello riecatnor
13:01:13 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
13:01:14 <VipulSiddharth[m> .hello siddharthvipul1
13:01:15 <zodbot> VipulSiddharth[m: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
13:01:28 <riecatnor[m]> hiii Onuralp Sezer & Vipul Siddharth !
13:01:34 <VipulSiddharth[m> \o :D
13:01:39 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Helloooooooooooo Marie :)
13:01:49 <OnuralpSezer[m]> and welcome back Vipul ?
13:02:01 <VipulSiddharth[m> where was I? :P
13:02:08 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Hiiiii
13:02:14 <pbokoc> Hello
13:02:19 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I don't know you were misssing somewhere in our universe :)
13:02:28 <riecatnor[m]> hey Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez & pbokoc :)
13:02:34 <OnuralpSezer[m]> anyway hello again Vipul Siddharth  :)
13:02:36 <riecatnor[m]> (pto?)
13:02:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> I just attend this early meeting ^-^
13:02:48 <VipulSiddharth[m> yess, right!
13:02:54 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Already blushing :)
13:02:58 <VipulSiddharth[m> lol
13:02:58 <riecatnor[m]> lol
13:03:10 <riecatnor[m]> I just had breakfast pizza, it was great
13:03:15 <tyll> .hello till
13:03:16 <zodbot> tyll: till 'Till Maas' <opensource@till.name>
13:03:27 <riecatnor[m]> but, ordered a latte that was just, not good.. how do you mess up a latte? thats classi
13:03:29 <riecatnor[m]> classic*
13:03:46 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I made a cake and herb tea plus I'm sick and try to recover until party day
13:04:16 <tyll> get well, soon OnuralpSezer[m]
13:04:17 <riecatnor[m]> ohhh no :( sorry to hear you are sick
13:04:17 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Just a hot coffee here :)
13:04:23 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: I can make a better latte then that person over there :P
13:04:27 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Get well
13:04:32 <riecatnor[m]> #topic info and announcements
13:04:33 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Thank you everbody
13:04:38 <riecatnor[m]> I bet Onuralp Sezer lol
13:05:10 <riecatnor[m]> #info the Release Party for Fedora Linux 35 is this week! Don't forget to register and pass the link along to friends :)
13:05:12 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-35-release-party/registration
13:05:20 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Linux_35_Release_Party_Schedule#Schedule
13:06:21 <riecatnor[m]> #info Elections are now open, seats on FESCo, Council, & Mindshare
13:06:25 <riecatnor[m]> #undo
13:06:25 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by riecatnor[m] at 13:06:21 : Elections are now open, seats on FESCo, Council, & Mindshare
13:06:38 <riecatnor[m]> #info nominations for elections are now open, seats on FESCo, Council, & Mindshare
13:06:49 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f35-elections-nominations-now-open/
13:07:30 <riecatnor[m]> #info to help promote engagement in the Mindshare Committee elections overall, we published a post to the community blog. Feel free to promote!
13:07:31 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/upcoming-mindshare-committee-election-what-to-know/
13:08:04 <VipulSiddharth[m> great, other than tweets, can we do something else
13:08:21 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Me is promoting :p
13:08:32 <riecatnor[m]> ask folks who you think would be a good fit to run for the seat, or when elections happen, lets remind people to vote for Mindshare too
13:08:47 <riecatnor[m]> its on the same exact page as the FESCo & Council votes I believe
13:09:19 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Yes it is
13:09:25 <riecatnor[m]> Vipul Siddharth: you could share that with CPE somehow? Like, here is a quick article that helps bring a lot of understanding
13:09:27 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Marie can we ask for magazine people to link up  commblog in front side of their page as well ? in order to promote more ?
13:09:32 <riecatnor[m]> (some informal chat or something?)
13:09:38 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor: definitely
13:10:06 <riecatnor[m]> I am not sure about the Magazine, that is user-focused
13:10:35 <OnuralpSezer[m]> it is user and our contributor focused plus there are more people looking over there compare to comm blog
13:11:00 <riecatnor[m]> #info our Taiga instances are retiring on December 17th
13:11:00 <OnuralpSezer[m]> s/it is user and our contributor focused plus there are more people looking over there compare to comm blog/Yes it is our  users and our contributors  focused plus there are more people looking over there compare to comm blog /
13:11:00 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/retiring-taiga-instance-on-teams-fedoraproject-org/
13:12:03 <riecatnor[m]> aiui, Magazine = users Commblog = contributors
13:12:21 <OnuralpSezer[m]> okay
13:12:36 <riecatnor[m]> I wonder if we have ever promoted elections on the magazine before?
13:12:55 <OnuralpSezer[m]> https://fedoramagazine.org/?s=election
13:13:01 <OnuralpSezer[m]> yes we did
13:13:25 <VipulSiddharth[m> since magazine is more focused on users and not community, we don't do that there nowadays from what I remember
13:13:56 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Vipul Siddharth:   and since we have "commblog"  they just left out election and move on I think
13:13:59 <riecatnor[m]> I see we haven't done something sine 2017
13:14:16 <VipulSiddharth[m> yes, we do those on commblog now
13:14:31 <riecatnor[m]> #topic tickets
13:14:44 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/302
13:15:07 <riecatnor[m]> the thursday meeting had a chance to look a this, we suggested a replacement question
13:15:18 <riecatnor[m]> if everyone here is fine with the change, we can give bcotton the ok
13:15:27 <OnuralpSezer[m]> +1
13:15:31 <AlbertoRodrguezS> +1 too
13:16:00 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am okay with the change.. brainstorm: can we ask how they would improve mindshare visibility?
13:16:09 <VipulSiddharth[m> just discussing with y'all, not suggesting yet
13:16:14 <tyll> +1
13:16:28 <riecatnor[m]> ohh, I like that question
13:16:33 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Yeah
13:16:52 <riecatnor[m]> I think that one could be in addition?
13:17:01 <OnuralpSezer[m]> yes It should be
13:17:14 <VipulSiddharth[m> I would like to see what interesting answers we get
13:17:45 <riecatnor[m]> "How would you improve Mindshare Committee visibility and awareness in the Fedora community?"
13:18:01 <VipulSiddharth[m> +1
13:18:13 <AlbertoRodrguezS> +1
13:19:54 <OnuralpSezer[m]> +1
13:20:02 <riecatnor[m]> cool, I commented
13:20:07 <tyll> 0
13:20:25 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/297
13:20:38 <riecatnor[m]> thank you Vipul Siddharth !
13:20:51 <tyll> not sure if this is a good goal, it seems like an intermediate step since the idea for Mindshare would be to improve Fedora's visibility and awareness
13:20:56 <VipulSiddharth[m> This is done, we are waiting on communication on their part
13:20:56 <VipulSiddharth[m> I passed the link last week and had a call today as well
13:21:02 <VipulSiddharth[m> this will be going out today
13:21:14 <riecatnor[m]> Do you think Clement needs some assistance with promotion?
13:21:24 <riecatnor[m]> tyll: i apologize, I think I moved too quick
13:21:28 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor: I don't think so
13:21:29 <VipulSiddharth[m> it's all in place
13:21:31 <riecatnor[m]> Is this for the questions?
13:21:45 <tyll> my comment was about the election questions
13:21:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> yes, should we move to the last topic? Till Maas has points on the question
13:22:20 <riecatnor[m]> right, tyll, can you explain a bit more? do you think we should reduce the questions?
13:22:49 <tyll> yes, usually there are not many candidates, so too many questions can be an additional barrier
13:23:33 <AlbertoRodrguezS> We are changing one, adding one
13:23:36 <tyll> and regarding the question about how toimprovie Mindshare visibility, I am not sure that is a good fit for candidates - it kind of seems like the candidate interview will be used as a single survey
13:24:23 <riecatnor[m]> I mean, we will only have a couple people answering them.. its something we are trying to do.. I am not sure I would count it as a survey
13:24:43 <riecatnor[m]> I do see the point about too many questions being a barrier
13:24:52 <riecatnor[m]> I am curious how many questions are used for Council & FESCo
13:24:54 <tyll> I mean the questions are more like you would ask as a survey not to identify good candidates
13:25:11 <riecatnor[m]> which questions? the ones we have used historically as well?
13:25:24 <tyll> The question about increasing visibility for Mindshare
13:25:45 <riecatnor[m]> FESCo has 4 questions
13:26:08 <riecatnor[m]> council also has 4
13:26:18 <tyll> For example, the open ended question about what Mindshare should do allows to understand more about the candidate - and they can mention that Mindshare needs to be promoted, more
13:27:15 <tyll> Council started with 3 when we made the questions mandatory IIRC
13:27:25 <tyll> So it is moving in the wrong direction IMHO
13:27:39 <tyll> uh, maybe it was 4
13:28:00 <AlbertoRodrguezS> I like it because makes the candidate needs to think outside the box but too many questions can be a bad idea
13:28:28 <riecatnor[m]> I think 4 is ok, I also like the new question, personally. And if we don't get anything good back, we can just remove it next time?
13:28:29 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Well we only have 4 too so it is not much either ?
13:28:34 <AlbertoRodrguezS> s/needs to//
13:29:29 <riecatnor[m]> please add your votes to the ticket, we should move to the next topic
13:29:45 <riecatnor[m]> votes and/or opinions :)
13:30:13 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Right, thanks for your comments tyll
13:30:14 <tyll> I guess if visibility is an important topic, it should have its own ticket in our system so we work on that
13:30:43 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/282
13:30:47 <tyll> Currently I see one ticket without updates which does not imply it being important
13:30:54 <riecatnor[m]> a proposal I made, but no time to progress that
13:31:21 <riecatnor[m]> I also just wrote the blog post for the election
13:32:19 <riecatnor[m]> I would like to move back to the CoreOS survey
13:32:32 <riecatnor[m]> Vipul Siddharth: you mentioned you think promotion is covered?
13:32:40 <tyll> ok, I will add my comments to the ticket or in my answer for the elecctions interview
13:32:47 <riecatnor[m]> thank you tyll!
13:33:06 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor: yes
13:33:06 <VipulSiddharth[m> They will send emails/tweets today
13:33:20 <riecatnor[m]> how about a short blog post?
13:33:24 <riecatnor[m]> can be derived from the email
13:33:28 <riecatnor[m]> we can pin that on disussion
13:33:32 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Vipul is link active ? (I can't opened it ?)
13:33:39 <OnuralpSezer[m]> * Vipul,  is
13:33:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> I can pass that on
13:33:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> let me see what they think
13:33:53 <riecatnor[m]> ok cool :) just trying to make sure all the bases get covered
13:34:04 <VipulSiddharth[m> OnuralpSezer[m]: no, Limesurvey is in update progress for now and I have suspended it
13:34:04 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am to ping Clement once it's ready to go
13:34:13 <OnuralpSezer[m]> thank you
13:34:40 <riecatnor[m]> oh also, I will note to promote that during the release party
13:37:02 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/301
13:37:17 <riecatnor[m]> the alternate meeting reviewed this, please take a look
13:37:27 <riecatnor[m]> if everyone is fine, I think we can close that?
13:37:44 <riecatnor[m]> or, I can ask Mizmo if she needs anything more
13:38:12 <VipulSiddharth[m> yeah, since it was not really asking if we should or not but asking for design inspirations, I didn't comment anything
13:38:12 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am fine with going ahead with it
13:38:37 <riecatnor[m]> I think its asking if they have prioritized things correctly
13:38:51 <riecatnor[m]> but, it seems fine to me. I added that we will need to do ambassador shirts pretty soon as well
13:39:11 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Awesome
13:39:20 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh, are we to get new ambassador tshirts? XD
13:39:32 <riecatnor[m]> I would like to make that happen, yes :D
13:39:36 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am yet to receive my nest swag :"( lol
13:39:43 <riecatnor[m]> so I learned something
13:39:58 <OnuralpSezer[m]> VipulSiddharth[m: YESSSSSSSSSA
13:39:59 <OnuralpSezer[m]> > <@siddharthvipul1:fedora.im> oh, are we to get new ambassador tshirts? XD
13:39:59 <OnuralpSezer[m]> * YESSSSSSSSS
13:40:01 <riecatnor[m]> all the Indian swag packs going to Red Hat are being batch shipped to a red hat office
13:40:04 <tyll> If new shirts are selected, it would be great to choose brands that allow more inclusive sizes like tall sizes
13:40:06 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh no, please don't worry about that
13:40:06 <VipulSiddharth[m> it was more of a statement than complain :)
13:40:12 <riecatnor[m]> and will go from there :)
13:40:15 <VipulSiddharth[m> nice
13:40:16 <riecatnor[m]> but that is why its taking longer
13:40:34 <riecatnor[m]> Till Maas: I gave this as a requirement, inclusive sizes
13:40:43 <riecatnor[m]> also I asked about eco-friendly options
13:40:54 <VipulSiddharth[m> tyll: do you have a brand in mind?
13:40:54 <VipulSiddharth[m> I know the ones that Cool Stuff Store uses are quite diverse
13:40:54 <tyll> riecatnor[m]++
13:41:06 <riecatnor[m]> my guess is they will be a lot pricier, but I should have some info about tshirt pricing and options soon to share with Mindshare
13:41:21 <riecatnor[m]> I hope to get at least one design printed before end of year
13:41:59 <tyll> VipulSiddharth[m: I know that the old cool stuff store had one tall size shirt, that was nice and I some some offerings in German swag shops, not sure if there is something international
13:42:59 <riecatnor[m]> I will do my best to ensure that is an option we can have
13:43:42 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Thanks 🙏
13:44:07 <riecatnor[m]> ok, actually based on this convo, I am leaving that ticket open to add updates on the tshirt options
13:45:51 <riecatnor[m]> #topic open floor
13:46:05 <VipulSiddharth[m> sorry folks, I need to step out to get groceries for dinner (living a day at a time :P)
13:46:17 <AlbertoRodrguezS> :)
13:46:19 <riecatnor[m]> lol Vipul Siddharth I know the feeling
13:46:26 <riecatnor[m]> thanks for being here!
13:46:27 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Marie how is your new time zone ? :)
13:46:35 <OnuralpSezer[m]> should I submit lightning talk about timezones :)
13:46:43 <riecatnor[m]> lol, my cats are not agreeing that we changed times
13:46:47 <VipulSiddharth[m> ugh, not sure about marie but I am hating the timezone mess up.. everything is an hour late :(
13:46:58 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Yeah.... it is late
13:47:03 <riecatnor[m]> oh hmmm
13:47:11 <riecatnor[m]> I didn't take that into account
13:47:24 <riecatnor[m]> moving this an hour earlier would be 7am for me 😅
13:47:37 <OnuralpSezer[m]> oh now you can move into 8am :))
13:47:45 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh no, this is fine
13:47:47 <OnuralpSezer[m]> and you can sleep extra :)
13:47:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> think something like council call
13:47:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> it's at midnight
13:48:01 <riecatnor[m]> yes, lol, "extra"
13:48:02 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Vipul Siddharth:  come on be gentilmen :)))
13:48:09 <VipulSiddharth[m> then some work calls
13:48:11 <OnuralpSezer[m]> s/gentilmen/gentilman/
13:48:19 <riecatnor[m]> #topic F35 release party
13:48:29 <riecatnor[m]> Onuralp Sezer: any news about among us?
13:48:52 <riecatnor[m]> oh no Vipul Siddharth 😖 so late
13:49:18 <tyll> I tried among us in my team, I can also share how to get it running on Fedora
13:49:43 <tyll> easiest option is using Android, though, which is also for free
13:49:52 <tyll> For Fedora one needs to buy it on steam
13:50:07 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Generally, it is ready and I can push today too but I had one tiny "technical stuff" I had to take look and make sure It won't be make a problem and type that in to wiki and re-test then I'm ready to go
13:50:19 <OnuralpSezer[m]> tyll: I'll send you link too +1
13:50:31 <OnuralpSezer[m]> tyll: Yes :(  on desktop/laptop  steam is the way
13:50:42 <OnuralpSezer[m]> but it is not super expensive
13:50:46 <riecatnor[m]> do you have a link for us to review, Onuralp Sezer ?
13:51:34 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: It wasn't public but I can do send it today
13:51:40 <OnuralpSezer[m]> and make sure you all saw it
13:51:41 <AlbertoRodrguezS> 😁😁
13:52:10 <riecatnor[m]> Ok, would be good for a couple sets of eyes to review :)
13:52:15 <OnuralpSezer[m]> sure sure
13:52:26 <OnuralpSezer[m]> everybody wants to play
13:52:28 <OnuralpSezer[m]> good goood :)
13:52:30 <riecatnor[m]> any other things for the release party?
13:52:31 <OnuralpSezer[m]> more pepople :)
13:52:36 <OnuralpSezer[m]> * more people
13:53:00 <riecatnor[m]> can folks promote registration on their local networks? (i guess you already have, but since we are close, maybe once more?)
13:53:13 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Yes
13:53:25 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I did on both matrix and telegram end
13:53:25 <OnuralpSezer[m]> but sure I can re-do it again too
13:53:25 <OnuralpSezer[m]> as a reminder
13:53:26 <riecatnor[m]> https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-35-release-party/registration
13:53:30 <OnuralpSezer[m]> it is coming
13:53:57 <riecatnor[m]> I would love to see us surpass the F34 release party numbers :)
13:54:08 <riecatnor[m]> right now we are 384 registrations
13:54:19 <riecatnor[m]> (F34 for 496, iirc)
13:54:37 <VipulSiddharth[m> let me forward this in Fedora-India places
13:54:53 <riecatnor[m]> great idea, Vipul Siddharth thank you!
13:55:19 <OnuralpSezer[m]> oh let me do that too :)) since I sneak in in India side as welll :)
13:55:39 <riecatnor[m]> the same rate of growth from F33 to F34 would be more like 750 registrations, but I don;t think we will get there
13:55:39 <OnuralpSezer[m]> s/in//
13:55:51 <VipulSiddharth[m> are there any swag riecatnor ?
13:55:51 <VipulSiddharth[m> asking for the message
13:56:03 <OnuralpSezer[m]> AFAIk no ?
13:56:09 <riecatnor[m]> no swag this time
13:56:12 <VipulSiddharth[m> got it
13:56:13 <VipulSiddharth[m> makes sense
13:56:15 <riecatnor[m]> their is the pub quiz
13:56:22 <riecatnor[m]> beat the bomb, and among us
13:56:23 <OnuralpSezer[m]> oh no
13:56:24 <OnuralpSezer[m]> quiz :)
13:56:26 <riecatnor[m]> so, more fun socials
13:56:28 <OnuralpSezer[m]> It is all WRONG again
13:56:29 <OnuralpSezer[m]> :)))
13:56:55 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Marie I'll promise I'll not tell the answer I didn't see it :))
13:57:07 <AlbertoRodrguezS> :p
13:57:25 <OnuralpSezer[m]> s/Marie I'll promise I'll not tell the answer I didn't see it :))/Marie I'll promise I'll not tell the answer  If I saw it :)) /
13:58:07 <riecatnor[m]> lol
13:58:16 <riecatnor[m]> what if I told you Aoife and I were going to make a quiz with only wrong answres
13:58:19 <riecatnor[m]> answers*
13:58:34 <OnuralpSezer[m]> oh, then I don't care then :)
13:58:38 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I can say w/e I want :)
13:58:43 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Sounds funny
13:58:47 <riecatnor[m]> lol
13:58:59 <riecatnor[m]> I am working on it with her tomorrow, let's see what happens
13:59:05 <riecatnor[m]> but we did talk about doing that :P
13:59:13 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Oh,
13:59:37 <riecatnor[m]> so the chat will just be "RIGGED" for the entirety of the session
13:59:43 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Vipul I need your help on something for quiz you know what I mean :))
14:00:04 <VipulSiddharth[m> haha, sure
14:00:04 <VipulSiddharth[m> everything has a price
14:00:07 <riecatnor[m]> lol, but we are out of time for today. Thanks for the discussion today
14:00:10 <OnuralpSezer[m]> You may want to take off Red hat :)
14:00:10 <riecatnor[m]> #endmeeting