13:00:23 <riecatnor[m]> #startmeeting Mindshare
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13:00:28 <riecatnor[m]> #meetingname Mindshare
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13:01:10 <riecatnor[m]> #chair Vipul Siddharth pbokoc Máirín Duffy tyll Onuralp Sezer Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez nb relrod_
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13:01:20 <riecatnor[m]> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
13:01:29 <riecatnor[m]> #topic Hello
13:01:32 <VipulSiddharth[m> .hello siddharthvipul1
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13:01:38 <riecatnor[m]> .hello riecatnor
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13:01:42 <VipulSiddharth[m> aaaaahhhhh
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13:01:58 <riecatnor[m]> oh noes
13:02:08 <VipulSiddharth[m> Let me ping someone in Infra to get that rebooted
13:02:09 <OnuralpSezer[m]> .hello thunderbirdtr
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13:02:16 <riecatnor[m]> hi Vipul Siddharth Onuralp Sezer !
13:02:25 <OnuralpSezer[m]> :(( bot hate me
13:02:33 <riecatnor[m]> it hates us too lol
13:02:42 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Hello (here ghostly)
13:02:47 <riecatnor[m]> how is everyone today?
13:02:54 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Busy :)
13:02:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> Zodbot doesn't differentiate
13:02:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> It hates everyone equally
13:02:58 <riecatnor[m]> I am just eating breakfast, I spent the morning reading
13:03:09 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh nice, what were you reading riecatnor ?
13:03:24 <riecatnor[m]> an book about change management called "Upstream"
13:03:28 <riecatnor[m]> I would definitely recommend it
13:03:38 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh wow, now that sound relevant
13:03:57 <riecatnor[m]> https://heathbrothers.com/books/upstream/
13:04:24 <riecatnor[m]> "Upstream delivers practical solutions for preventing problems rather than simply reacting to them. How many problems in our lives and in society are we tolerating simply because we’ve forgotten that we can fix them?"
13:05:08 <riecatnor[m]> Onuralp Sezer: busy busy, hope you are also taking some time to rest in between
13:05:54 <riecatnor[m]> #topic announcements and information
13:06:23 <riecatnor[m]> sometimes I am not sure if I should repeat all the announcements for both meeting times
13:06:36 <riecatnor[m]> but then I am like, what if someone doesn't see something 😅
13:07:22 <riecatnor[m]> so here I go! and if people have opinions about that, feel free to bring them up
13:07:28 <riecatnor[m]> #info Fedora Linux 35 elections results are out!
13:07:32 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-linux-35-election-results/
13:07:37 <riecatnor[m]> #info Recordings from the F35 Release Party now available on the Fedora Youtube
13:07:41 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-linux-35-release-party-recordings-available-now/
13:07:46 <riecatnor[m]> #info CfP for the Distributions devroom at FOSDEM is open until December 20th
13:07:51 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/track/distributions/
13:07:56 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2021q4/003311.html
13:08:01 <riecatnor[m]> #info CfP for the CentOS Dojo at FOSDEM open until January 9th
13:08:06 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/FOSDEM2022
13:08:11 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSds-fpT7xVsF4_5Y48dIexdIoiQK-Xv7EyI3r3fpYE1oEFopA/viewform
13:08:30 <riecatnor[m]> #info @mattdm kicked off a discussion for a 3 year Fedora strategy, feel free to get involved, we need everyones input!
13:08:35 <VipulSiddharth[m> #info Distributions devroom CFP deadline extended for another 5 days - Now ends on Dec 25th
13:08:38 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-in-2025-what-do-we-want-and-how-will-we-get-there/35258
13:08:46 <VipulSiddharth[m> oops
13:08:46 <riecatnor[m]> thank you for adding that Vipul
13:09:25 <riecatnor[m]> any other announcements or info to share today?
13:11:17 <VipulSiddharth[m> #info Most Red Hatters take break during the Christmas-new year time to spend some time with Family. So we may some some quiet time in some areas (like Infra)
13:11:26 <VipulSiddharth[m> s/some/seesome/, s/some//
13:11:30 <VipulSiddharth[m> s/some/see/
13:11:36 <riecatnor[m]> good point!
13:11:39 <VipulSiddharth[m> heh, did you expect I know how to tyupe
13:11:47 <riecatnor[m]> I was going to talk about how we will be skipping a couple meetings
13:11:48 <VipulSiddharth[m> lol, intentional typo.. for sure!
13:12:35 <riecatnor[m]> #info the FCAIC will be on holiday from Dec 22 and back on Dec 5th
13:12:45 <riecatnor[m]> #undo
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13:12:51 <VipulSiddharth[m> heh
13:12:56 <riecatnor[m]> #info the FCAIC will be on holiday from Dec 22 and back on Jan 5th
13:12:58 <riecatnor[m]> better :)
13:13:04 <riecatnor[m]> I am not taking a whole year off lol
13:13:26 <VipulSiddharth[m> FCAIC deserves some time off <3
13:13:31 <riecatnor[m]> I will most likely check in once or twice to say hi
13:13:40 <riecatnor[m]> also, I have my fun Fedora stuff to work on.. like designs :)
13:13:49 <riecatnor[m]> so I might be around a little bit.. or maybe not! let's see
13:14:13 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor[m]: same, fwiw, I did draw some crows (Marie taught me some inkscape and I have a task in hand)
13:14:31 <riecatnor[m]> that means we won't be having meetings next week or the week after. I think this means our next meeting is January 13th
13:14:44 <OnuralpSezer[m]> VipulSiddharth[m: Welcome the vectors  :)
13:14:58 <riecatnor[m]> just checking real quick
13:15:11 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: See you in next year then  :))
13:15:58 <riecatnor[m]> #info the next two Mindshare Committee meetings are cancelled due to the upcoming Holidays - our next meeting will be on January 13th 2022. Happy New Year! (to those who celebrate)
13:16:14 <riecatnor[m]> I will cancel the meetings in fedocal and the google invites
13:16:32 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Or rename it and say happy new year
13:17:04 <riecatnor[m]> #topic Meeting Agenda
13:17:17 <riecatnor[m]> I have a couple things to discuss today.. does anyone else have specific things to bring to todays meeting?
13:19:43 <riecatnor[m]> if you think of something later, drop it in chat and we can try to fit it in :)
13:19:44 <riecatnor[m]> #topic Mindshare Quarterly Update
13:19:44 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/306
13:19:50 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hackmd.io/6FHVaOXERwu6yOYvhJnJog?view#Mindshare-Committee-Quarterly-Update
13:20:52 <riecatnor[m]> Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez - the CommOps area is empty. Has there been any activity in the last 3 months you are aware of?
13:21:05 <riecatnor[m]> I am going to add in the revamp team is updating the documentation
13:22:06 <riecatnor[m]> pbokoc pbokoc - the Docs area is empty. Is there anything we can add to that area?
13:22:39 <riecatnor[m]> t0xic0der: around today?
13:25:59 <riecatnor[m]> Okay, I think I can add a couple things for the Web&Apps area actually, its looking sparse and I know there has been a lot of activity
13:26:35 <riecatnor[m]> for the Docs & CommOps areas, please add whatever is appropriate.
13:26:46 <riecatnor[m]> I guess if we don't have anything for a certain team, we can just remove that part from the report
13:27:00 <riecatnor[m]> or it could say "no updates"
13:27:33 <riecatnor[m]> thoughts?
13:30:20 <riecatnor[m]> hullo out there? :)
13:31:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh hey hey, sorry I was figuring out Matrix (yak shaving)
13:31:39 <VipulSiddharth[m> I would say no updates
13:31:39 <VipulSiddharth[m> that would still show their existence
13:32:01 <VipulSiddharth[m> just nothing specific to update
13:32:01 <VipulSiddharth[m> or we can do "Areas where we don't have anything specific to update" and list those seats
13:32:19 <VipulSiddharth[m> <riecatnor[m]> "Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez..." <- could this have data from magazine and commblog?
13:32:29 <riecatnor[m]> oh, I like it
13:32:33 <riecatnor[m]> like number of posts
13:32:38 <VipulSiddharth[m> or perhaps even more.. youtube, different spaces etc
13:33:25 <riecatnor[m]> is there an easy way to count the number of posts from oct-dec
13:33:44 <riecatnor[m]> going to commblog dashboard to see
13:34:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor[m]: I wonder if wordpress backend has something like this
13:34:24 <VipulSiddharth[m> I can try checking
13:34:37 <riecatnor[m]> I found it
13:34:43 <riecatnor[m]> I can add that one in
13:35:10 <VipulSiddharth[m> great
13:35:39 <VipulSiddharth[m> actually, I have one thing to add - but it requires some work
13:35:39 <VipulSiddharth[m> I will do it today/tomorrow
13:35:56 <riecatnor[m]> cool :)
13:36:24 <riecatnor[m]> #topic tickets
13:36:26 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/309
13:36:46 <riecatnor[m]> Vipul Siddharth: is this something you can assist with?
13:36:58 <riecatnor[m]> we probably won't need too many updates but we need to have some activity before the end of the year
13:37:00 <VipulSiddharth[m> yes
13:37:08 <riecatnor[m]> you da best!
13:37:13 <riecatnor[m]> thank you very much <3
13:37:16 <riecatnor[m]> will you comment please?
13:38:40 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://stands.fosdem.org/stands/the_fedora_project/
13:38:43 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh commented already
13:38:46 <riecatnor[m]> here is a link to last years stand for reference
13:39:09 <VipulSiddharth[m> yeah, i have these things handy
13:39:09 <VipulSiddharth[m> I will reach out to Mariana and you if I need something :)
13:39:10 <riecatnor[m]> we should def update parts of it
13:39:13 <riecatnor[m]> awesome
13:39:34 <VipulSiddharth[m> If you something specific in mind to update, we can use hackmd or something to sync
13:40:08 <VipulSiddharth[m> one small change is to "The Fedora distribution" to the "The Fedora Linux"
13:40:09 <riecatnor[m]> we will need to update the Fedora Project in 2021 to in 2022 and change text
13:40:13 <riecatnor[m]> the what's new sectiion
13:40:15 <VipulSiddharth[m> yep, and that
13:40:16 <riecatnor[m]> we can remove the raffle part
13:40:26 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor[m]: right right
13:40:50 <riecatnor[m]> We will need to update for the socials, I forget if we did that through FOSDEM or we just did that in our Social channel
13:41:13 <VipulSiddharth[m> Let's do something small to keep things in line and we can update specifics later on as well
13:41:13 <riecatnor[m]> and instead of the Nest with Fedora 2020 group pic, maybe we can add a group shot from WorkAdventure F34 release party
13:41:19 <VipulSiddharth[m> in case we miss something I mean
13:41:21 <riecatnor[m]> oh yeah, I am taking notes for later
13:41:29 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor[m]: good idea
13:41:29 <riecatnor[m]> I realize what needs to happen now :)
13:42:03 <riecatnor[m]> #Link https://stands.fosdem.org/stands/
13:42:08 <riecatnor[m]> also I see that they have the old logo
13:42:14 <riecatnor[m]> so we will need to get the new logo to the organizers, most likely
13:43:04 <VipulSiddharth[m> I can get that in commit
13:43:17 <riecatnor[m]> cool. do you need a logo file?
13:43:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> what would be the right place to request logo
13:43:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> though I think I have one already that I got from Nick back in the day
13:43:32 <VipulSiddharth[m> we sync'ed XD
13:44:06 <VipulSiddharth[m> got it
13:44:13 <VipulSiddharth[m> thank you Marie
13:44:18 <riecatnor[m]> I am sending a couple
13:44:40 <riecatnor[m]> we will need the logo mark for the stands page, but it would be nice to get our new full horizontal logo on our specific page
13:45:15 <VipulSiddharth[m> when I have the PR up, I will comment the link to that on ticket for you all to review
13:45:24 <riecatnor[m]> I sent 3 versions, depending on what fits best where
13:45:29 <riecatnor[m]> perfect, thank you!
13:45:43 <VipulSiddharth[m> of course
13:46:03 <riecatnor[m]> ok, I will take the notes about changes and add them to the ticket
13:47:09 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/308
13:47:56 <riecatnor[m]> so, on one hand, I agree it isn't active, not many subscribers, and that it might make sense to retire. On the other hand, I think we should ask should we be using this?
13:48:01 <riecatnor[m]> and if we were to use it, what would go there
13:48:12 <VipulSiddharth[m> I don't mind
13:48:12 <VipulSiddharth[m> I haven't seen much here
13:48:12 <VipulSiddharth[m> we can move to discourse once we have the site reorganized?
13:48:26 <VipulSiddharth[m> I think it's better to use something that people don't need to subscribe
13:48:38 <VipulSiddharth[m> but that's just an opinion I hold very loosely
13:48:59 <riecatnor[m]> it really depends on the person.. a lot of folks definitely rely on email
13:49:16 <VipulSiddharth[m> yep, I also get that point
13:49:16 <VipulSiddharth[m> something coming to you vs otherwise - you going to check
13:49:23 <riecatnor[m]> I do like the idea of moving some discussions to discourse
13:49:40 <riecatnor[m]> that way, people can still get emails if they are subscribed
13:49:49 <VipulSiddharth[m> we can use email feature
13:49:49 <VipulSiddharth[m> From what I know, there is a feature to post new updates on list
13:49:56 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh yeah, that's what I meant
13:50:13 <riecatnor[m]> yeh :)
13:50:36 <riecatnor[m]> I am curious to hear others thoughts- but if we did retire and in the future we felt the need arise, no reason we couldn't revive it
13:53:33 <riecatnor[m]> feel free to drop a comment on the ticket
13:53:40 <riecatnor[m]> #topic open floor
13:53:48 <riecatnor[m]> anything else for the last few minutes of the call?
13:53:52 <riecatnor[m]> How are the interns doing?
13:55:03 <VipulSiddharth[m> I need to reach out to them for bi-weekly commblog posts
13:56:01 <riecatnor[m]> oo, nice. looking forward to that!
13:57:08 <riecatnor[m]> any plans for new years eve?
13:57:14 <riecatnor[m]> stay home? :P lol
13:57:19 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am hoping for a good night sleep XD
13:59:40 <riecatnor[m]> I am going to see my parents for the first time a long while.
13:59:44 <VipulSiddharth[m> anyone here knows how to add different communities home server in same element instance?
13:59:44 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am trying to add FOSDEM matrix things in same
13:59:45 <riecatnor[m]> Should be a nice visit
13:59:59 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor[m]: That's amazing Marie :D
13:59:59 <VipulSiddharth[m> I hope you have a great time
14:00:02 <riecatnor[m]> hmm, I am not the right person for that Q :P
14:00:31 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor[m]: hey, worth a try :P
14:00:53 <riecatnor[m]> maybe nb ?
14:01:05 <riecatnor[m]> that's it for today :)
14:01:14 <riecatnor[m]> Thank you Vipul Siddharth for the discussion!
14:01:18 <riecatnor[m]> #endmeeting