12:01:21 #startmeeting Mindshare 12:01:21 Meeting started Tue Mar 15 12:01:21 2022 UTC. 12:01:21 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 12:01:21 The chair is riecatnor[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 12:01:21 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:01:21 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 12:01:29 #meetingname Mindshare 12:01:29 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 12:01:42 Hello! o/ 12:01:48 \o 12:01:58 .hello siddharthvipul1 12:01:59 VipulSiddharth[m: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' 12:02:11 #chair Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez Máirín Duffy Vipul Siddharth pbokoc nb TillMaas relrod_ Onuralp Sezer 12:02:11 Current chairs: Alberto Duffy Máirín Onuralp Rodríguez Sezer Siddharth Sánchez TillMaas Vipul nb pbokoc relrod_ riecatnor[m] 12:02:19 #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/ 12:02:23 #topic Hello 12:02:42 hullo ffmancera & Vipul Siddharth :) 12:02:56 how's it going today? 12:03:10 I realized we didn't talk about the time of this meeting changing, I wonder if its ok for people? 12:03:34 It's going well 12:03:34 This meeting is right at my beach time .. so I went there earlier today and just came back .. made it in time! yayy 12:03:57 still waiting to dry hair after a quick shower though :P 12:04:22 Good! I have been busy writing the Fedora Outreachy project proposal, will submit it today (sorry for the delay) 12:04:25 ok, let me know if its an issue, we can revisit again lol 12:04:32 ffmancera: thats great! 12:04:35 haha naah 12:04:48 can we help out? 12:05:10 ffmancera: that's great! 12:05:10 do give me a shout if I can help too 12:05:35 I think it is fine, I will appreciate the feedback once it will be published on pagure :-) 12:05:36 #topic announcements and information 12:05:46 #info join and invite others to the Ambassador Kick-Off Call, March 31st at 3PM UTC 12:05:51 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-ambassador-call-kick-off/ 12:05:56 #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/meeting/10212/ 12:06:06 #info Fedora is participating in the upcoming round of Outreachy and we are looking for projects and mentors! Please submit to the mentored projects repo by March 16th 12:06:06 * ffmancera is eating something but around! 12:06:13 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-projects-mentors-outreachy-may-2022/ 12:06:18 #link https://pagure.io/mentored-projects/issues 12:06:26 #info there are a whole bunch of CfPs open for some of your fav FOSS conferences, check out a list in last weeks Friday's Fedora Facts 12:06:42 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-10/ 12:06:44 #info Registration for the first edition of the Fedora Mentor Summit it out! We will be announcing it tomorrow morning. You can register now at https://hopin.com/events/fedora-mentor-summit-2022 12:06:57 #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-mentor-summit-2022 12:06:58 more info to follow 12:07:22 riecatnor[m]: I am very excited for this! 12:07:51 @marianab @sumantrom and I have been working for almost two years on this! 12:08:18 I see the light at the end of the tunnel ;) 12:09:14 I am excited for this too :D 12:09:19 looking forward to the call 12:09:29 a personal announcement- I am doing the RISE presentation at FOSSBackstage this week! 12:09:31 https://pretalx.com/foss-backstage-2022/talk/CQ9UQF/ 12:10:28 any other announcements or info? 12:11:58 #info Beta Go/No-Go this thursday. We are still in Beta Freeze 12:12:05 wait, let me confirm the freeze part 12:12:10 sigh 12:12:14 i added that above :) 12:12:21 #undo 12:12:27 wait did i?? 12:12:45 I don't see it 12:12:48 oh wait, I have one 12:12:48 i gathered the info but didnt sent lol 12:12:58 #info the F36 beta freeze is under way, the Go/No Go meeting is this Thursday 12:13:03 #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/meeting/10209/ 12:13:35 #info Fedora Project was not selected in GSoC 2022 round as we lacked minimum projects number requirement 12:14:00 we can try again next year 12:14:18 how many projects should we have and when do we need them by> 12:14:42 yess, I didn't know of their minimum project requirement 12:14:42 which just means, we need to open call for participation earlier and keep an eye throughout the year 12:14:48 learning moment 12:15:53 when should the projects be in by? 12:16:07 I guess that question is when is the gsoc application due 12:16:14 turns out, before we apply as a project 12:16:28 do you have a date? 12:16:41 for next year? 12:16:41 not yet 12:17:04 well, I expect it to be similar to this year 12:17:05 we can base it off of that 12:17:05 when was this years deadline 12:17:21 Feb 21st iirc 12:17:21 but yes, we can target mid Feb 12:17:46 ok, so I think we should make an effort in October to get projects 12:17:49 right around the release party 12:17:57 makes sense 12:17:58 then do another round in january 12:18:14 that should help 12:18:18 we discussion with FPgM that we can add this in Fedora's schedule 12:18:18 that will keep things on track 12:18:37 Sumantro and I had a call about this last month 12:19:16 would it make sense to add outreachy as well? 12:19:23 since this is done, we can get back to it some other time 12:19:23 I wanted to ask if anyone has any question about Fedora Mentor Summit? 12:19:23 We are running late and commblog would be out tomorrow 12:19:23 but this being our first edition, I am still very excited about it 12:19:26 maybe it would be better to keep a mentored projects calendar? 12:19:50 riecatnor: yess, we should absolutely look into it! 12:19:53 that's a good idea 12:20:27 or.. a Mindshare calendar? 12:20:44 we could add stuff like updates for docs and the wallpaper design process? just an idea! 12:21:02 I don't have time to take on a new project rn 😅 12:21:06 but I like it! 12:21:14 overall all of mindshare calendar 12:21:14 sounds like a good thing to brainstorm on 12:21:36 it would be up to the reps to keep things updated, and other teams could probably add to it as well 12:21:49 #topic Mentor Summit 12:22:25 go ahead Vipul :) 12:23:40 oh, I don't have anything in specific other than "If anyone has any doubts" 12:23:41 I am refining the blog draft that I will publish tomorrow morning 12:23:52 oh, we have draft schedule for day 1 ready 12:23:59 https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/Events/2022/4/1/ 12:24:26 it's still a draft 12:24:26 but I am thinking is pretty much close to what it might look like 12:24:26 Second day is still under planning 12:24:41 fedocal wont load for me rn :( 12:25:08 Second day would be full of social calls, places where we can come up with ideas, some fun activities and a panel discussion with our outreachy mentees of past 12:25:27 I also want to invite other community members.. but we are still in "contact phase" of that 12:25:42 oh, now its loaded! looks great :) 12:25:46 "#info Fedora Project was not..." <- Denied already? 12:26:15 We won't be able to do a paid workshop this time as mindshare ticket was not approved.. 12:26:15 but hoping we will have better planned next time and start early :D 12:26:30 I am also hoping to have a working group dedicated to this along with docs and timelines 12:27:11 sounds great! 12:28:35 is there anything we can do to assist, Vipul? 12:29:01 register and when I have the blog ready, i will reach out for promotion :P 12:29:23 oh, I have a work call to attend now, 12:29:23 so have to go! 12:29:23 thank you for your support y'all 12:29:23 I am excited for this 12:29:41 thank you for making it happen!! 12:29:44 we need more mentors and thus more projects 12:29:44 which I think would result in more contributors 12:30:05 have a great day :) 12:30:19 #topic tickets 12:30:21 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/325 12:30:46 I am still working on this but I was given the feedback that they strongly recommend that we go with something other than white for the tablecloth 12:30:55 even with a runner over the top, it will get dirty quickly. 12:31:08 and, that was definitely a concern we had 12:31:21 but, I see their point again, and its making me reconsider 12:31:55 so what do folks think about a fedora blue tablecloth with a white logo? 12:32:02 because we can do full color, we can match it exactly 12:32:02 Yes 12:32:16 Less visible dirt 12:32:34 blue table cloth ++ 12:32:42 ok, I will add a comment here and also to the corresponding design ticket 12:33:06 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/323 12:33:44 this is something that has been talked about for a long time, and I am getting the process started.. I expect it to take a while 12:34:19 I am most interested in working with the existing "satellite" fedora communities to adapt what they are using 12:34:51 I would like Mindshare to provide input throughout the process 12:37:11 is anyone here doing moderation for fedora now? 12:37:34 on telegram, matrix, reddit, etc 12:38:07 riecatnor[m]: I do 12:38:17 Matrix/tg 12:38:26 cool, thank you for that :) 12:38:44 do you have any documentation wrt moderation for either of those? 12:39:00 For tg it is in group 12:39:08 For matrix I preferably put in topic 12:39:27 To point our CoC 12:39:36 gotcha gotcha 12:40:12 We should re invent wheel over and over again I prefer to point out what we have 12:40:16 I think we want something more comprehensive, with some guidelines for moderators to actually do the moderation work. does that make sense? 12:40:16 Easier to edit and control 12:40:26 s/should/shouldn't/ 12:41:48 riecatnor[m]: That conflict with our other situation like (closing some of the chat platforms for favor or matrix server) 12:42:10 Do want to put more effort to handle all or get them all in here 12:42:26 * That conflict with our other situation like (closing some of the chat platforms for favor of matrix server) 12:43:03 so, I see the moderation guidelines as a tool 12:43:53 to continue to let people self-moderate, but consistently across all of our spaces 12:44:11 each platform will have some specifics of their own, that is fine 12:45:56 and we are def not trying to re-invent the wheel- these exist already, and im sure there are more examples out there.. the goal is to streamline them.. also if new community spaces pop up, they are all set with guidelines 12:47:46 we also occasionally have issues with moderators, too. this will help a standard for their behavior as well 12:48:32 riecatnor[m]: Okay 12:48:41 I didn't see any but if you say so 12:49:17 #topic open floor 12:49:42 any other things to bring up today? I am still working on all the stuff from last weeks meeting 12:50:10 OnuralpSezer[m]: I mean code of conduct incidents, and there are many fedora spaces, so I am not surprised you haven't seen them 12:50:11 I want coffee :) 12:50:32 riecatnor[m]: Oh that's.... okay sorry 12:50:34 OnuralpSezer[m]: approved! 12:50:41 I saw yes 12:51:25 I have some iced coffee 🧊☕️🧊 12:51:26 riecatnor[m]: You have my addresses,I want fedora flavors version :) 12:51:43 riecatnor[m]: I have snow in here so, no 12:52:16 lol, someone said to me yesterday "its really nice out today!" and I looked and the temp was 6C 🤣 12:52:53 riecatnor[m]: That's relative not same for everyone:) 12:53:01 exactly lol! 12:53:03 -1C here 12:53:25 today is 1C here 12:53:40 I feel the chilliness 12:54:18 That's probably all of the ice coffee you consume 12:54:31 i forget if we brought it up here when we were discussing socials, but Onuralp and I have been testing https://boardgamearena.com/ 12:54:51 we should see if we can use that at a future social session, maybe the release party? 12:54:59 +100 12:55:05 Easy to use and play 12:55:09 or FMS 12:55:15 Yes 12:55:16 whats FMS? 12:55:23 Fedora Mentor Summit 12:55:27 let's make it a thing now 12:55:36 Made by Vipul 12:55:38 Done 12:55:38 ahhh 12:55:48 oh, should we do that instead of pictionary? 12:55:53 or maybe we do that on the second day? 12:56:01 that's upto the DEI team lol ;) 12:56:08 riecatnor[m]: yesss 12:56:21 there are 19 games on boardgamearena that take 10+ players 12:56:38 I've only played one of them lol 12:56:54 I guess if we have that many people we could split into two groups 12:57:20 Marie you have too many ponies to work with it, chill out :))) 12:57:43 riecatnor[m]: Vipul team vs Marie team ?? :) 12:58:11 too many ponies? lol what does that mean 12:58:12 haha 12:59:23 riecatnor[m]: Ask Aoife 12:59:25 She knows 12:59:44 lol ok 12:59:57 Or mattdm 12:59:57 right, she has a bunch of horses lol 13:00:04 mattdm doesn't have horses tho, I am pretty sure. 13:00:28 riecatnor[m]: Check out his Twitter you will understand :) 13:00:44 one last thing, start adding stuff to the quarterly report :) https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/315 13:00:50 Jan 27 13:00:52 we will be publishing that early april 13:00:59 thanks everyone! 13:01:01 #endmeeting