12:00:58 #startmeeting Mindshare 12:00:58 Meeting started Tue Apr 12 12:00:58 2022 UTC. 12:00:58 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 12:00:58 The chair is riecatnor[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 12:00:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:00:58 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 12:01:02 #meetingname Mindshare 12:01:02 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 12:01:07 .members mindshare 12:01:08 riecatnor[m]: Something blew up, please try again 12:01:11 riecatnor[m]: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 12:01:23 hello 12:01:23 hmmm 12:01:31 Hi Nishant Mishra 12:01:35 .members mindshare 12:01:36 riecatnor[m]: Something blew up, please try again 12:01:39 riecatnor[m]: An error has occurred and has been logged. 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Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 12:02:53 #chair Vipul Siddharth Máirín Duffy tyll pbokoc Onuralp Sezer nb relrod_ 12:02:53 Current chairs: Duffy Máirín Onuralp Sezer Siddharth Vipul nb pbokoc relrod_ riecatnor[m] tyll 12:03:03 #chair bt0dotninja 12:03:03 Current chairs: Duffy Máirín Onuralp Sezer Siddharth Vipul bt0dotninja nb pbokoc relrod_ riecatnor[m] tyll 12:03:04 .hello siddharthvipul1 12:03:04 even me I am joining this meeting 12:03:09 #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/ 12:03:16 #topic Hello 12:03:35 hiya Vipul Siddharth ! 12:03:52 Hello riecatnor Vipul Siddharth 12:03:56 .hello thunderbirdtr 12:03:56 Hey hey 12:03:57 OnuralpSezer[m]1: Something blew up, please try again 12:04:00 OnuralpSezer[m]1: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 12:04:03 * t0xic0der[m]1 reads messages secretly ;P 12:04:11 Yay I broke the bot again 12:04:11 zodbot is having a time today 12:04:13 nah it was broken already lol 12:04:22 Vipul Siddharth: !! fix it :) 12:04:35 Mindshare as in Ambassdors? 12:04:37 He will fix it 12:04:40 how is everyone doing today? 12:04:46 I am in the supermarket.. shopping for dinner ingredients XD 12:04:54 Nishant Mishra: check out our docs :) https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/ 12:05:01 t0xic0der: can he cook well ? 12:05:13 Onuralp Sezer: Oh he cooks the best, my dude 12:05:22 Awesome 12:05:26 He was we here for just a rew days ... Didn't get chance to cook many things haha 12:05:48 I would love to have a Fedora potluck 12:05:58 riecatnor[m]: I saw some drawing..... 12:06:08 Vipul Siddharth: Lets have a potluck at hatch 2022 Pune 12:06:10 That would be soo cool 12:06:11 I wanna make that in here :) 12:06:13 Enough of a time to know that you have an understanding of what needs to be cooked and in what manner. The pasta was chef's kiss. 12:06:16 candy swap is great, but I bet a potluck would be soooo amazing. so many different flavors 12:06:25 Haha.. not sure if my hotel would allow me to cook 12:06:29 riecatnor: With you on that :) 12:06:39 But if airbnb.. would be sweet 12:07:06 VipulSiddharth[m: We talk about it in behind doors you knows...... "nobody knows" :) 12:07:11 * We can talk about 12:07:19 lol 12:07:29 * We can talk about it in behind doors you know...... "nobody knows" :) 12:07:37 Did you raise the ticket for hatch 2022 on Pagure I dont see any tickets for Hatch 2022 India there Vipul Siddharth 12:07:39 #topic announcements and information 12:07:46 #info Fedora Linux 36 is in final freeze 12:07:51 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Milestone_freezes 12:07:59 Yes it is and it is purring along well 12:08:00 #info mattdm needs your input on Fedora's 3 year strategy! join the conversation about accessibility strategy on discussion 12:08:01 so far 12:08:06 #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-2025-strategy-accessiblity-improvements-in-support-of-our-vision/38192 12:08:18 #info get ready to party! Fedora Linux 36 release party registration now open- May 13th & 14th 12:08:26 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/youre-invited-to-the-fedora-linux-36-release-party/ 12:08:29 #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-36-release-party/registration 12:08:41 I am already ready for it riecatnor Registered last month 12:08:43 :D 12:08:44 #info we are having Nest with Fedora & Fedora Hatch for 2022 contributor conference, learn more and find out how to get involved on the CommBlog 12:08:49 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-fedora-hatch-announcing-dates-call-for-volunteers/ 12:09:13 any more announcements or info for today's meeting? 12:09:27 Nothing here 12:09:41 #topic tickets 12:09:50 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/327 12:10:18 we reviewed this in our Thursday meeting- I wanted to quickly raise it here to see if there is more input 12:10:56 Will comment on the ticket 12:10:56 * How can we do the same 12:10:56 * Which community are we talking about - and relevancy to the fedora project? 12:11:03 That's we discussed, right? 12:11:09 Justin replied.... 12:11:17 Ohh.. i am just slow 12:11:26 Good good 12:11:27 Nothing from me then 12:11:32 take a look at his response tho 12:11:40 Will read it once before my response 12:11:47 Oh yeah, was typing that.. 12:11:47 Just slow on phone 12:12:42 I think we can easily do the same. I think we need to collect email addresses to send the info to 12:13:15 I have nothing to say on top of it. It looks cool and doable. 12:13:32 cool- I will go ahead with that 12:13:41 Should we do comment or vote 12:13:48 Vipul Siddharth: you and I should figure out the process for our outreachy applicants 12:13:53 you can add a +1 to teh ticket :) 12:13:57 okay 12:14:01 thanks! 12:14:17 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/326 12:15:40 this is quite a spot to be in- I don' 12:15:51 * I don't want to exclude Alberto 12:16:13 I have noticed his absence since the bridge went down 12:16:16 Alberto ain't on Matrix yet/ 12:16:22 ? 12:16:28 I don 12:16:40 * I don't know, read the ticket for info 12:17:19 we could make the late meeting later 12:17:29 that way alberto could be there 12:17:37 Sigh. https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/326#comment-788411 he can't quite be available for the conversations during his professional time I think :/ 12:18:13 I understand that he has network block issue but only exception he has "telegram" because his business is using it ? 12:18:18 riecatnor[m]: I don't carry a vote but this seems to be the best possible solution (for now) 12:18:37 OnuralpSezer[m]1: seems so :/ 12:18:44 t0xic0der[m]1: I agree 12:19:08 riecatnor: for him I'm going to re-connect bridge for now (so he can read as well ?) 12:19:14 until we sorted it out ? 12:19:21 I think the biggest problem is even if we put it back up, it will need to get fixed again - there will always be maintenance 12:19:32 from what I can tell, other teams seem to be retiring there telegram chats as well 12:19:53 riecatnor[m]: We can avoid it. If "appservice" decide to not "kick idle" people 12:19:57 OnuralpSezer[m]1: no, I think we should see if we can push the meeting later 12:20:09 riecatnor[m]: Okay 12:20:22 I can comment on the ticket 12:20:29 riecatnor[m]: Yep, and it would be too much for an isolated usecase when every other SIG or subteam is leaving Telegram. 12:21:11 * t0xic0der[m]1 thinks that why would people bother maintaining a bridge when there are say, not a lot of users :/ 12:21:23 are we good to move on? 12:21:25 * t0xic0der[m]1 * thinks that why would people bother maintaining a bridge when there are, say, not a lot of users :/ 12:21:37 Yup, let's see in late meeting then 12:21:43 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/324 12:21:48 this is completed! 12:22:01 #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/covid19-guidance/ 12:22:21 thanks to Alberto for getting that up :D 12:22:23 bt0dotninja++ 12:22:38 kudos to him 12:23:03 yay we get to close a ticket! 12:23:15 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/320 12:23:29 specifically this comment -> https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/320#comment-788483 12:24:05 I am in the process of communicating with speakers and will be coming up with a schedule soon 12:24:17 we need to decide what socials we want so I can get those going as well 12:25:04 riecatnor: for team games can we ask "early" in some where (because finding 16 people was a bit hard) 12:25:13 We experienced from last time 12:26:06 yeah :( I am not sure how to do that better 12:26:14 maybe those aren't a good fit for bigger events 12:26:20 seems like its nice for a team meeting tho 12:26:38 beat the bomb was decently attended iirc 12:27:23 Yes it was 12:27:44 Still, I think the sessions hosted by Fedorans are more popular 12:27:57 also they are in Hopin so its easy for people to just open the session and listen in 12:28:28 yes, moving to another platform (I would say specifically zoom) 12:28:28 is one of the major issues 12:29:18 I like the idea of doing a gaming session- one of our sessions will likely be: Fedora Workstation's State of Gaming - Akashdeep Dhar 12:30:13 but I wonder how we can tie those together 12:30:13 I'm going to be really close listener 12:30:14 I still wonder on the legality/licensing of showing proprietary video game feeds 12:30:28 people stream all the time? 12:30:28 Only song 12:30:32 is copyrighted 12:30:45 t0xic0der[m]1: If you don't select anything from "Nintendo" or "song" mostly you're fine 12:30:49 Look, Twitch streamers etc. do that for a living but those games are still a proprietary product so I wonder if it would be a right thing to do 12:30:56 lol, prob true 12:30:57 people put Ghost Recon gameplays and all still they dont get Copyright strikes 12:31:07 oh, I think it is fine to show short clips 12:31:09 OnuralpSezer[m]1: Onuralp Sezer: Couldn't agree more lol 12:31:23 we exist in a world with all kinds of software- its nice to show Fedora co-existing with those 12:31:27 riecatnor[m]: 3 hour non stop gameplays 12:31:29 t0xic0der: do you have actual demo ? 12:31:41 riecatnor[m]: riecatnor: I see. I'd just limit to some artificial benchmarks and stuff so it should not be problematic 12:32:07 OnuralpSezer[m]1: I'd try to pre-record it to keep ourselves from the final day probable hiccups. 12:32:21 YoU nEvEr KnOw WhAt HaPpEnS 12:32:26 that seems wise heh 12:32:26 t0xic0der[m]1: so you have benchmarks and tests** 12:32:27 If control works on fedora 12:32:28 ok- back to socials please :) 12:32:29 I am playing it 12:32:37 t0xic0der[m]1: I know... ( I remember last time among-us :(( ) 12:32:48 I kind of want to do among us again 12:32:53 riecatnor: Yep, I digress. Let's continue with the next point. 12:33:06 riecatnor[m]: I can test with you and t0xic0der and couple more others BEFORE 12:33:08 Onuralp Sezer: Yes please. More "metaphorical" stabbing ;P 12:33:21 What if we name the session something generic so we can do whatever is working? lol 12:33:21 To be sure it is fine.... 12:33:22 Onuralp Sezer: Count me in too 12:33:24 i would be up for tetris 12:33:34 riecatnor[m]: Yes I wanna beat you :) 12:33:36 "The Sussy Fedora session" 12:33:38 pictionary seems like a good standby 12:33:51 scribbl 12:33:51 riecatnor[m]: Please use "fedora word list" :) 12:34:03 is it ready to be used? 12:34:08 riecatnor[m]: YES 12:34:09 Pictionary is always a viable replacement for times when others don't. 12:34:09 For a long time 12:34:26 can you share a link please 12:34:49 oh another one is boardgamearena.com 12:34:59 that one is cool, and I saw we can do breakout sessions in hopin now 12:35:10 ok so what about Board Game Social 12:35:14 and Video Game Social 12:35:15 riecatnor[m]: From our green friends : https://github.com/openSUSE/opensuse-skribbl-io 12:35:15 And ours : https://pagure.io/fedora-skribbl-io 12:35:29 > <@riecatnor:fedora.im> can you share a link please 12:35:29 * From our green friends : https://github.com/openSUSE/opensuse-skribbl-io 12:35:29 And ours : https://pagure.io/fedora-skribbl-io 12:35:29 We can extend it, ( I have commit access) 12:36:13 So, I talked to Aoife after the last release party and she mentioned she is ready for a break from that :( 12:36:21 * So, I talked to Aoife after the last release party and she mentioned she is ready for a break from the pub quiz :( 12:36:36 Pub quiz is fun because of Aoife :(( 12:36:42 We have to count stuff :) 12:36:44 we can try to find someone else who is fun 12:36:46 lol 12:36:57 i can ? 12:36:57 and hey I was doing that too! :P 12:36:59 riecatnor: I see that as a good thing. If we repeat a certain event too many times, there can be a drop in the attendees count. 12:36:59 riecatnor[m]: Make it Ben :) 12:37:18 riecatnor[m]: You're in everywhere I got used to you :) 12:37:19 We can always come back with the pug quiz stronger in the next event/ 12:37:23 s///./ 12:37:30 we can limit it to Nest instead of 3 times a year 12:37:43 I bet I can get Aoife on board for that 12:37:47 how about give new contributors a chance? 12:38:09 NishantMishra[m]: I am not sure if it's suitable for a new contributor 12:38:14 ok 12:39:01 so what do people think of my Board Games session and Video Games session idea? 12:39:16 riecatnor[m]: +1 12:39:34 riecatnor[m]: +1 12:39:50 +1 12:39:57 we had 3 sessions at f35 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Linux_35_Release_Party_Schedule 12:40:16 2 might do the trick tho 12:41:03 here we had an extra social session- a "coffee hour" with a friendly community https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Linux_34_Release_Party_Schedule 12:41:10 riecatnor: please Saturday for me ! :) 12:41:27 video game session on saturday? 12:41:41 riecatnor[m]: +1 12:41:49 If I'm the host yes 12:41:52 If not no 12:41:57 All times are fine... 12:42:24 ok cool 12:42:27 Onuralp Sezer: I want you to be a co-host with me for the State of Gaming session please 12:42:42 (If you're available, that is) 12:42:58 t0xic0der[m]1: You know my time selections, so you know what to do) 12:43:01 :) 12:43:27 saturday then? 12:43:32 :) 12:43:42 t0xic0der: already fixed 12:43:43 :) 12:44:08 also, we should do that pre-test if we want to do among us 12:44:22 t0xic0der: and I want "Fedora Gaming T-shirt then :)) 12:44:28 oh I want that too lol 12:44:29 riecatnor[m]: Sure I'm for up for that 12:44:38 riecatnor[m]: Yep, we should 12:44:38 did someone say tshirt? 12:44:40 whose making them :P 12:44:51 * t0xic0der[m]1 > <@riecatnor:fedora.im> oh I want that too lol 12:44:51 * t0xic0der[m]1 drinks some of that unsee juice 12:44:51 Onuralp is sponsoring, right? 12:44:53 riecatnor: you drawing Vipul Siddharth is knitting :) 12:44:57 VipulSiddharth[m: Yes 12:45:01 I'm the money 12:45:07 t0xic0der: is the accountant :) 12:45:12 LOL :) 12:45:24 lol 12:45:41 ok- I think Ive got next steps for the socials 12:45:42 we good to move on? 12:45:45 sure 12:45:49 riecatnor[m]: Yep 12:45:51 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/319 12:46:20 #link https://linuxappsummit.org/sponsors/ 12:46:39 we are now an official Supporter of LAS 2022 12:47:13 we should follow up on the ticket to confirm its all set, and request they write up an event report for the commblog 12:47:53 yayy 12:47:53 that's it for that one really 12:48:02 does someone want to comment and triage the ticket? 12:48:49 ok I can do it lol 12:48:56 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/314 12:49:05 ok so this is about to happen!! very exciting 12:49:35 riecatnor: please add FPO login :) 12:49:37 you can see the FIRST blog post here: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=10885&preview=1&_ppp=43a3e6c04b 12:49:51 there will be no fpo login but people need to use their fedora emails 12:50:02 riecatnor[m]: Okay 12:50:04 I am preparing a second blog post that will go out on the 21st with the actual info 12:50:22 Awesome, about "cool stuff" 12:50:25 * riecatnor[m] uploaded an image: (128KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/fedora.im/ced63446101ef9afda3a6d6726bcf64f9a858b75/teeshirt_giveaway-1024x433.png > 12:50:28 did you talked with keyboard people ? 12:50:28 isn't the panda with the tshirt cute 12:50:37 riecatnor[m]: Looks awesome 12:50:47 Sorry, I'm waiting my turn* 12:51:09 OnuralpSezer[m]1: yes, Matthew and I are working on that! no news yet 12:51:20 riecatnor[m]: Okay 12:51:31 We are trying to get meetings with decision makers :) 12:51:57 I am working out the logistics for the keycap giveaway as well. 12:52:01 t0xic0der: Vipul Siddharth guys we have mission we need to get that.... oh sorry we're in meeting :) 12:52:30 I am excited to get a new fedora tee shirt!! 12:53:27 everything is in the works for the tee shirt giveaway, mostly giving everyone a heads up :) 12:53:36 <3 12:53:38 #topic open floor 12:54:08 I will be the first one to get registered 12:54:11 for the tee 12:54:23 i wonder what size range are we looking at? 12:54:35 oh... sizes.... 12:54:48 XS... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/54b7592bf72166a577727c9825fc9d9eee6855ce) 12:54:57 i am 4XL 12:54:58 :D 12:55:02 for fitted tee shirt: 12:55:04 XS... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/47c401174e0e9e62c3de3723d832990dc642d5d0) 12:55:18 riecatnor: are they US or EU ? 12:55:25 you know.. numbers... 12:55:28 we did our best to be a size inclusive as possible 12:56:05 If I dont get my size I giveaway to my brother or other firends in the tech community to promote that company 12:56:20 so I can promote Fedora here 12:56:24 that way 12:56:35 * riecatnor[m] uploaded an image: (24KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/fedora.im/e9ac621f956d9d0cd392da747fec92a2883771a3/Screenshot%20from%202022-04-12%2008-56-23.png > 12:56:48 my guess its just in US 12:56:58 i would grab a converter and try your best! lol 12:57:10 s/firends/friends/ 12:58:02 anything else for open floor today? 12:59:04 riecatnor: are they inch or cm ? 12:59:38 I am honestly not sure how EU sizing works 13:00:00 Don't you have other tee shirts from conferences you can compare to? :P 13:00:01 generally, it runs 1 or 2 sizes smaller than US 13:00:04 i guess some were made in the US 13:00:26 riecatnor[m]: I guess I go with M 13:00:27 okay :) 13:01:03 alright peeps- that's it for today. I hope you all have a great day! thank you! 13:01:05 #endmeeting