11:59:57 #startmeeting Mindshare 11:59:57 Meeting started Tue Jun 7 11:59:57 2022 UTC. 11:59:57 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 11:59:57 The chair is riecatnor[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 11:59:57 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 11:59:57 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 11:59:59 #meetingname Mindshare 11:59:59 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 12:00:41 #chair bt0 Onuralp Sezer Vipul Siddharth TillMaas pbokoc nb Máirín Duffy 12:00:41 Current chairs: Duffy Máirín Onuralp Sezer Siddharth TillMaas Vipul bt0 nb pbokoc riecatnor[m] 12:00:46 #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/ 12:00:51 #topic Hello 12:00:53 .hello2 thunderbirdtr 12:00:54 osezer[m]: Sorry, but user 'osezer [m]' does not exist 12:00:59 hiya osezer :) 12:01:00 .hello riecatnor 12:01:01 .hello siddharthvipul1 12:01:01 riecatnor[m]: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' 12:01:03 \o 12:01:04 VipulSiddharth[m: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' 12:01:08 .hello thunderbirdtr 12:01:11 osezer[m]: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' 12:01:16 hi Vipul Siddharth ! 12:01:25 how's everyone doin today? 12:01:26 Heyyy 12:01:38 riecatnor[m]: Hot 12:01:51 not too bad 12:01:51 this afternoon I missed an important planning meeting :( 12:01:51 but rest is going alright 12:01:52 .hello bt0dotninja 12:01:53 bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' 12:01:57 hi 12:01:59 o/ 12:02:04 hey bt0 !! 12:02:19 Alberto!! how have you been? 12:02:21 > <@siddharthvipul1:fedora.im> not too bad 12:02:21 > this afternoon I missed an important planning meeting :( 12:02:21 > but rest is going alright 12:02:21 been there, sorry to hear it 12:02:41 riecatnor[m]: Also I have to say this year we have 3 candidates that's an upgrade ? :) 12:02:48 fine thanks for ask Vipul 12:02:55 yes it is :D means that our work to raise mindshare visibility has worked 12:02:59 or its a fluke lol 12:03:23 Good good, more members..... we're going to mind control them alll 12:03:26 ::)) 12:03:27 * :)) 12:03:32 lolllll 12:03:47 in next 2-3 elections, if it says, can't call it fluke anymore 😄 12:03:47 let's keep up the good work 12:03:52 yes, and I have been discussing with the outreach revamp team, they want to bring another ambassador rep to mindshare too 12:03:55 s/says/stays/ 12:04:03 that's amazing 12:04:03 and hopefully a web & apps member soon too 12:04:15 riecatnor[m]: 2 W&A ? 12:04:21 no, just one :) 12:04:42 okay... 12:05:07 we have had 2 amby spots but one just hasn't been filled for a while 12:05:46 Just give some time, It will get there 12:06:01 hey if w&a is really doing a lot and needs two members to mindshare, seems like we could discuss that, but adding one seems great for now 12:06:12 #topic announcements and information 12:06:23 riecatnor[m]: not at the moment.. :) 12:06:27 #info Nest with Fedora CfP open, share in your channels & submit today! :) 12:06:32 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-2022-cfp/ 12:06:37 #link https://pagure.io/flock/issues 12:06:48 riecatnor[m]: oh yes 12:06:48 need to bump this task on top of the list 12:07:12 #info the Annual Contributor Survey is open for the month of June, make sure to submit your feedback! Make sure to share in your channels too! 12:07:13 riecatnor[m]: Plans are already in motion :) 12:07:14 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/we-want-to-hear-from-you-take-the-fedora-annual-contributor-survey-for-2022/ 12:07:19 #link https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/2022 12:07:25 #info Fedora Docs is getting a rehaul, check out what the team has planned 12:07:29 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-docs-is-about-to-change-significantly-check-it-out-still-in-statu-nascendi/ 12:07:35 #info there is a new SIG forming: BIOS Boot SIG 12:07:40 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/BiosBoot 12:07:50 #info there is a discussion around reinvigorating the Marketing Team, and they are looking to set up a regular meeting. If you are interested, make sure to join #fedora-marketing or Fedora Marketing on Element to get involved 12:07:55 #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/reinvigorating-the-marketing-team/39260 12:08:16 Marketing needs to come back yes !! 12:08:50 #info Fedora Linux 37 Test Week for Kernel 5.18 underway until June 12th 12:08:52 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-linux-37-test-week-for-kernel-5-18/ 12:09:00 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-06-05_Kernel_5.18_Test_Week 12:10:00 riecatnor: are you going to do test new kernel too ? :P 12:10:11 #info Fedora 34 is going EOL today 12:10:13 #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-34-is-going-eol-in-one-day/39676 12:10:27 served us well 12:10:28 maybe someday lol 12:10:35 VipulSiddharth[m: True 12:10:53 yes, was a good one 12:11:15 any other announcements or info to share today? 12:11:53 not from me 12:13:39 not from me 12:14:15 #topic todays agenda 12:14:23 anyone have specific things to discuss today? 12:15:17 riecatnor[m]: I do have something to discuss before tickets 12:16:00 ok osezer what is it so I can #topic that 12:16:00 I wanted to ask about hatch 12:16:00 For Hatch Pune, we have requested some budget and wanted to open a call for funding request so we can sponsor a couple of community members to attend the event 12:16:00 riecatnor should I add the funding eligibility template in there too? 12:16:18 ok, lets talk about hatch too 12:16:57 riecatnor[m]: as a KDE Sig team member we would like make more visibility on our side so for that we would like also do announcement our Beta versions of KDE Plasma-desktop from our copr repository, for developers/tinkerers/people like to see new feature before land our Fedora repository 12:17:16 ok- are there any other topics? 12:17:27 please dont jump in yet, just gathering topics for today currently :) 12:17:35 sure 12:18:00 i think thats it, if others have something, feel free to request that or wait til open floor 12:18:05 #topic KDE visibility 12:18:12 go ahead with more osezer 12:21:33 We were already working on creating Beta versions of KDE Plasma-desktop experience along with require packages and for that we already created a repository for it. Once kde/plasma team do announcement for beta version. We are also creating that beta versions of our RPM packages and put all of them into that repository. 12:21:33 That's gives KDE developers to easy test and we can also help them as well (We did that multiple times and It works very nicely, catching new bugs and helping their community also help us for better experience on our KDE Desktop spins. 12:21:33 For all of those reasons I'll would like to do announcement from our social media accounts when we got beta release ready on our repository 12:22:10 * our repository., * People can test but we going to put proper warning tags too (for bugs and reporting system as well) 12:22:38 * our repository(kde-sig, * copr repo). People can test but we going to put proper warning tags too (for bugs and reporting system as well) 12:22:41 all of that sounds awesome! we can def help with promoting 12:23:10 I can help with scheduling tweets as well (if you have draft that's reviewed and ready somewhere) 12:23:13 I think a blog post would be nice for the team to write up- if you send text for a tweet we can do that as well, unless KDE has an account already , we can retweet 12:23:51 did you have anything else in mind? 12:23:54 VipulSiddharth[m: Some draft but may needs some "editor" check 12:24:16 the telegram news channel can work too 12:24:20 we can do that 12:24:21 usually I prefer to run it with Marie or Ben before scheduling something 12:24:21 but yeah, I can review as per my level too 12:24:26 riecatnor[m]: I didn't plan that but sure that would be awesome as well (I can try to some come up something team and back about that as well) 12:24:27 bt0: ah yes, 12:24:27 I can help with that as well 12:24:40 > <@siddharthvipul1:fedora.im> we can do that 12:24:40 even a paragraph or two will work for a blog post! 12:24:40 > usually I prefer to run it with Marie or Ben before scheduling something 12:24:40 > but yeah, I can review as per my level too 12:24:40 Sure 12:25:15 riecatnor[m]: Awesome we can do brief announcement along with some nice features so we can also show some eye candy stuff and share it 12:25:59 sounds great 12:26:25 let us know if you need any guidance and we can assist with the tweet review and scheduling :) 12:26:28 anything else? 12:26:39 that's all from me and thank you ALL of you :) 12:26:46 you guys awesome !! :) 12:26:57 #topic Fedora Hatch 12:27:07 osezer[m]: all of us here :P 12:27:40 I have on my to do list to go through the hatch tickets and reply- we are good to go pretty much. For any funding of event/travel for non red hatters we will need them to fill the funding eligibility form 12:28:09 I set aside a number for Hatches, we haven't gotten close to reaching that, so all are going to be approved shortly 12:28:25 Isabella Gordillo is working on a plan to help with promotions, including writing content 12:29:30 got it 12:29:30 will ask all non-redhatters requesting funding to open a ticket in fedora-budget 12:29:50 I will note on the tickets 1. approval 2. Isa's work on help with promotion 3. funding eligibility 4. swag logistics 12:30:13 any other questions or stuff I am missing for hatches? 12:30:37 since we have just 30 days in hand 12:30:37 Swag to India might be tough 12:30:37 could we get some printed locally? It will be wayy cheaper too 12:31:23 I think thats a good idea Vipul Siddharth but my concern is how to pay for it 12:31:35 I could pay for it and then request transferwise? 12:31:44 using fedora-budget way 12:31:49 since you are a main organizer- maybe we should take this conversation to DM and work out those logistics? 12:32:18 sure! 12:32:18 (@t0xic0der and jnsamyak would be the main organizer though.. I am just helping with things) :) 12:32:34 VipulSiddharth[m: I think this might work- I just want to make sure we are doing things properly for you region re: RH guidelines 12:32:43 s/you/your/ 12:32:48 fair 12:33:13 Vipul Siddharth: i think you could start by sourcing the items you want and costs 12:33:20 * t0xic0der[m]1 looks out of the cave. 12:33:24 Bonjour! 12:33:39 lets discuss further out of the meet 12:33:42 riecatnor[m]: we discussed this today and we have a list 12:33:42 I can get them to you (or on a ticket if you say) by EOD 12:33:50 riecatnor[m]: Sounds like a plan. 12:34:01 thank you Marie :) 12:34:05 any other other Hatch stuff? :) 12:34:26 How much fun is too much fun for in person event XD 12:34:32 lololol 12:34:47 depends on what we're talking about 🤣🤣 12:34:51 #topic tickets 12:34:54 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/340 12:35:20 how are folks feeling about a guadec sponsorship? 12:35:40 I like guadec 12:35:40 only with to be able to attend it in person 12:35:40 so I like the idea 12:35:41 they are offering office hours instead of job board, we can do a how to join fedora talk (short with some time for q&a) 12:35:58 s/with/wish/ 12:36:19 we could also talk about how connect GNOME and Fedora project is 12:36:31 riecatnor[m]: Yep, I can ask around if there are people who would be willing to accompany in the talk. 12:36:46 that would be a nice topic, but I wonder who will be able to deliver that content 12:36:46 * VipulSiddharth[m checks the brochure 12:36:48 VipulSiddharth[m: We need WA person 12:37:21 riecatnor[m]: I got plenty of experience on that :)) 12:37:24 we could see if Allan Day would be interested, too? 12:37:42 riecatnor: what level were you thinking of sponsoring? 12:37:51 VipulSiddharth[m: Bronze* from what I readd 12:37:53 s/*/\*/, s/readd/read/ 12:37:58 last year we did bronze, seems okay for this year again 12:38:08 I projected that we would fund so there is space in the budget for that 12:38:11 since this is an in-person event 12:38:11 are there virtual talks too? 12:38:18 its hybrid afaict 12:38:24 ah 12:38:24 makes sense 12:38:44 I like the bronze level sponsorship 12:38:52 yes 12:39:08 bronze sounds good 12:39:08 I think its important to keep our name at the conference, and another chance to connect with more folks about fedora too 12:39:18 ok, please vote on the ticket 12:39:23 sure 12:39:58 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/339 12:40:46 I am not sure why it's called a Fedora explorer day and not something that Fedora has been doing for long.. like a FAD 12:40:47 good question 12:40:49 I like the name.. but never heard of it that's all :) 12:41:02 when I first read it, I was like- this should be a hatch, but its way past the deadline for proposals 12:41:09 should we ask them to rebrand it to a FAD? 12:41:12 VipulSiddharth[m: It is catchy :=) 12:41:42 we could ask what the background is for the name 12:41:46 and if they are aware of FADs 12:41:53 yeah but keeping it consistent with Fedora things will be "better" in terms of reach, recognition etc 12:42:02 riecatnor[m]: Yup, If nothing special behind it. FAD it is 12:42:15 like if I want to do a Fedora Milaap tomorrow 12:42:15 you would ask, what is it :D 12:42:17 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD 12:42:17 So many FADs.... 12:42:25 and that's why the question :) 12:43:09 Vipul Siddharth: could you drop your question/background about the naming please? 12:43:15 yeah, will do 12:43:35 everyone else, please drop a +1 if you are ok with the funding part 12:43:43 riecatnor[m]: done 12:43:53 I also have some question around "recruit Fedora users and contributors" which are not super easy to answer unfortunately 12:43:53 is there a way to measure these 12:43:53 what's the next step opr follow up step after giving a talk or workshop 12:44:06 FAD is fine, josereyesjdi is a good working hard to generate a good community on panama 12:44:09 I will share my thoughts there :) 12:44:25 since you are jumping on with Q's can you remind them we will ask for an event report after as well 12:44:52 I will do :) 12:44:58 * I will do that :) 12:45:01 "recruit Fedora users and contributors" is very hard :( 12:45:12 hard to measure, indeed 12:45:28 bt0: "Hard" is very easy word for that :) 12:45:33 * TBH, "Hard" is 12:45:38 :P 12:45:39 bt0: true 12:45:39 my questions are mostly to get more ideas and ask them if they have a strategy :) 12:45:39 that's all 12:45:40 i have gotten personal messages from folks saying "i've had people show up in channel and places after release party/mentor summit/nest" 12:45:51 so, I really think our virtual events are great for recruitment 12:45:59 but it is anecdotal 12:46:25 that's why we need some metrics 12:46:25 osezer how about we give you a new task XD 12:46:25 pretty please lol 12:46:30 Virtual ones are %1000 works fine because no travel issue or something else jusst have good old internet and go 12:46:33 * VipulSiddharth[m is joking 12:46:50 > <@siddharthvipul1:fedora.im> that's why we need some metrics 12:46:50 > osezer how about we give you a new task XD 12:46:50 > pretty please lol 12:46:50 no, thank you :) I'm busy no no no :) 12:46:58 would be nice to see commops working on metrics 12:47:09 s/jusst/just/ 12:47:14 riecatnor[m]: would be a nice discussion on how we can revive/empower them more 12:47:37 I love metrics 12:47:42 me tooo 12:47:46 for sure :) 12:48:00 ok, i think we have time to squeeze in another ticket 12:48:08 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/341 12:48:22 davdunc: I see you lurking ;) 12:48:56 you know I am listening. 12:49:12 on the ticket 12:49:13 I quite like what Ben suggested :P 12:49:34 hiya davdunc good to see you, as always :D 12:50:02 Activities beyond engineering is a much better way to put the efforts unlike "non-technical or even non-engineering" 12:50:25 :) Thanks riecatnor it's great to be here. 12:50:30 I like Bens suggestion as well- but maybe we should mention outreach as well 12:50:44 because all those things in the end are supporting Fedora's outreach 12:51:50 "Fedora's Outreach Teams: Ambassadors, Design, Documentation, Websites, and more" 12:51:50 mentorship, would that also be in outreach team? 12:51:51 (just a suggestion and def open to more!) 12:52:03 definitely, and we want to keep a focus on mentorship for sure 12:52:10 tho we only have so much space here 12:52:32 "Fedora's Outreach Teams: Ambassadors, Design, Docs, Mentorship, Websites, and more" 12:53:51 I like this one "Fedora's Outreach Teams: Ambassadors, Design, Docs, Mentorship, Websites, and more" 12:54:59 any other thoughts or suggestions? 12:55:15 riecatnor: That's pretty comprehensive. I like it for sure. 12:55:41 maybe add something about it being an easy place to get started. 12:56:24 I think they are revamping this page, so idk what it will look like moving forward, but we need to keep it short to fit here 12:56:31 * riecatnor[m] uploaded an image: (259KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/fedora.im/a6e0134fa0712c68a4c1e0971a3c42f252b4aa6d/Screenshot%20from%202022-06-07%2008-56-03.png > 12:56:36 maybe we could remove all the subteams 12:56:36 Easy place to get started with activities beyond engineering 12:56:36 I like the one that Marie suggested as well 12:56:36 just putting another option there 12:57:00 but no, I think it needs to be what Mindshare is 12:57:21 the title is currently "Mindshare Teams" 12:57:25 Hello. :) I think it could be helpful to include something about Mindshare having opportunities for non-technical people and have that clearly spelled out? 12:57:48 Time reminder 12:57:59 thank you Vipul, I noticed we are at 3 minutes too hehe 12:58:26 so, I don't think we concluded this, so let me comment with our ideas and we can revisit at a future meeting or people can provide commentary on the ticket 12:58:41 even a "Start Here" kind of messaging is good, because I think this is the best place to start if you don't know where you are going. 12:58:57 I will add that into my comment with notes from the meeting 12:59:01 #topic open floor 12:59:08 just wanted to note that next week I am on PTO 12:59:21 moving to from my apartment to a house 🎉🎉 12:59:29 should there be a tile for Join Fedora? 12:59:29 s/to// 12:59:37 ooh room for a studio! 12:59:37 or Contribute 12:59:41 please add further commentary to the ticket 12:59:58 should we cancel next weeks meet or do you want to meet without me? 13:00:17 I will sit this question out 13:00:17 since it's the late meeting : 13:00:19 * meeting :P 13:00:24 davdunc[m: YES :D 13:01:13 riecatnor[m]: any thoughts? 13:02:25 if no one responds, I think I will cancel it. the late meeting has had poor attendance as of late anyways and I have been considering looking at the time again 13:02:44 alright folks- we are 2 mins over 13:02:51 thank you so much for all your input today 13:02:58 I hope every one has a lovely day/week! 13:03:00 Thank you for chairing :) 13:03:03 #endmeeting