12:01:09 #startmeeting Mindshare 12:01:09 Meeting started Tue Aug 30 12:01:09 2022 UTC. 12:01:09 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 12:01:09 The chair is riecatnor[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 12:01:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:01:09 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 12:01:13 #meetingname Mindshare 12:01:13 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 12:01:24 .hello 12:01:24 davdunc[m: (hello ) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 12:01:32 .hello2 12:01:32 davdunc[m: Error: Missing "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. 12:01:38 .hello bittin 12:01:39 luna__: bittin 'Luna Jernberg' 12:01:46 ugh. 12:01:49 #chair Máirín Duffy Vipul Siddharth davdunc Madeline Peck Onuralp Sezer bt0dotninja pbokoc nb 12:01:49 Current chairs: Duffy Madeline Máirín Onuralp Peck Sezer Siddharth Vipul bt0dotninja davdunc nb pbokoc riecatnor[m] 12:02:00 .hello riecatnor 12:02:01 riecatnor[m]: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' 12:02:11 i think you can use .hello davdunc :) 12:02:13 #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/ 12:02:16 #topic Hello 12:02:28 let's try it! 12:02:28 hey mindshare peeps, hows it going today? 12:02:29 .hello davdunc 12:02:30 davdunc[m: davdunc 'David Duncan' 12:02:48 a bit tired but alive 12:02:57 .hello Madeline Peck 12:02:58 i feel that Luna 12:02:59 MadelinePeck[m]: Sorry, but user 'Madeline Peck' does not exist 12:03:23 Madeline Peck: use your fedora account name 12:03:27 heya bt0 ! 12:03:30 .hello bt0dotninja 12:03:31 bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' 12:03:31 #chair bt0 12:03:31 Current chairs: Duffy Madeline Máirín Onuralp Peck Sezer Siddharth Vipul bt0 bt0dotninja davdunc nb pbokoc riecatnor[m] 12:03:34 hi 12:03:36 too much going on and not enough sleep in the heat 12:03:59 .hello Madeline Peck 12:04:00 MadelinePeck[m]: Sorry, but user 'Madeline Peck' does not exist 12:04:08 😂 12:04:17 I feel your pain Madeline Peck 12:04:24 .hello madelinepeck 12:04:25 riecatnor[m]: madelinepeck 'Madeline Peck' 12:04:30 there ya go :) 12:04:48 ahaha thank you! 12:05:01 hello hello everyone 12:05:03 zodbot wants things its way!! 12:05:04 lol 12:05:53 I am somehow still tired from the weekend? my parents came to visit so it was a very busy one 12:06:22 meet both family and my partner over the weekend 12:06:32 riecatnor: nothing like a family visit to drain your social quota. 12:06:38 That will do it- I’m still unpacking from moving so I feel like my weekend was just boxes and boxes 12:06:47 ooo, how'd your move go? 12:06:56 It went very well :) 12:07:19 glad to hear that! moves are... not that much fun 😅😅 12:07:38 #topic announcements and information 12:07:48 #info the call for Projects & Mentors for the Outreachy Dec-March cohort is open! 12:07:56 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-projects-mentors-outreachy-dec-2022/ 12:08:10 before I go on, I want to call this one out 12:08:24 as of right now, we don't have much in the way of projects 12:08:39 there is a chance we might skip the round if we don't get any- I need to sign us up as a community by thursday 12:08:57 we can back out even if I sign us up, butttttt we should really try to circulate this one 12:09:12 I reached out the community platform engineering team 12:09:13 riecatnor: what can the cloud sig bring out for projects? I can get that moving. 12:09:15 and also a couple individuals 12:09:37 i'd say you'd be a great fit for mentorship/projects! make sure to keep the scope of the project limited 12:09:50 with a few stretch goals in mind, if you get a very driven intern 12:10:00 #link https://pagure.io/mentored-projects/issues 12:10:13 we have a couple of engineering projects on the back burner, a documentation project and such. I maintain a group of interns at $dayjob, so I am aware of the commitment. 12:10:19 for sure 12:10:40 the application period is the heaviest time if you mentor for outreachy 12:10:47 okay. I'll put them on the stack and get that rolling. 12:10:57 once you're through that, you can get a nice cadence rolling with the intern you select and it becomes lighter 12:11:41 okay, sounds like something I can handle. I'll start working on that today. 12:11:45 awesome :D 12:11:55 if you know other people, feel free to send the commblog/pagure link around 12:12:09 Madeline Peck: have you considered mentoring a design intern? :) 12:12:40 is Vipul Siddharth here? 12:12:54 I haven’t but I feel like there are quite a few projects that get pushed back for other things that would probably work for a limited 12 week span 12:13:16 he has a plenty of experience working with interns and guiding the process so he could provide some insight if anyone has questions 12:13:28 absolutely Madeline! that is exactly the kind of stuff to bring an intern on for 12:13:51 you could potentially have an intern to vectorize all the fedora characters?? and make some art with them? 12:14:01 i been thinking of maybe searching to Outreachy whenever something that fits me comes up aka something in QA or Translations and not only coding however i can't really design and paint :p 12:14:34 Yea I mean I remember Lauren an intern was the one who revamped the characters and did the sheets so it would make sense 12:14:42 I hear you, luna__ there are all different types each round so def keep an eye open 12:14:51 riecatnor[m]: will do 12:15:05 do I see Vipul Siddharth lurking?? :) 12:15:53 ugh 12:15:53 finally 12:15:55 ah the deadline was yesterday to apply 12:16:05 oh well should try to look at into it for real next year then 12:16:05 Matrix hates me 12:16:06 I couldn't see any messages! 12:16:15 so please send the Outreachy blog post onto others as well- we really want to get fedora focusing on mentorship, so this could be any part of fedora 12:16:22 anything from docs, to coding, etc 12:16:30 * VipulSiddharth[m reads up 12:16:48 hi Vipul Siddharth was it a verification thing? i fought with element to verify my session for like an hour the other day 12:17:17 #info join the conversation around the future of Fedora Docs on discussion.fpo, centered around the Docs Survey results 12:17:19 #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/the-future-of-fedora-docs-website/41706 12:17:42 #link the EPEL survey closes in the next day, make sure to fill it out if you are an EPEL user! 12:17:42 no, 12:17:42 all my sessions are verified 12:17:42 I was getting notifications but it wasn't showing any messages :( 12:17:43 #undo 12:17:43 Removing item from minutes: 12:17:51 #info the EPEL survey closes in the next day, make sure to fill it out if you are an EPEL user! 12:17:55 Madeline Peck: as Marie said, please do ping me if you have any doubts :) 12:17:56 #link https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/396386 12:18:09 .hello thunderbirdtr 12:18:10 osezer[m]: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' 12:18:45 #info bcotton just completed the first run of FESCo's newly approved Inactive Packager Policy, they will be removed after the F37 release 12:18:51 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/UG3UOKBVJLUWZYEHWL52KPMITPEPEBNF/ 12:19:26 as per this list, I am still active! 12:19:26 /me good :P 12:19:38 awesome :P 12:19:45 #info there is an active discussion around naming conventions for our editions/spins/labs etc- check it out on discussion.fpo and join in! 12:19:47 #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/flavors-over-solutions/41839 12:20:28 heya Onuralp Sezer ! 12:20:38 Hello Marie 12:20:44 how was your bday? :D 12:21:33 #info Fedora Week of Diversity is still looking for volunteers to help with a variety of tasks around event planning & coordination 12:21:36 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fwd-2022-call-for-volunteers/ 12:22:18 #info Fedora Badges needs love, and you love badges, RIGHT??? Join the conversation on discussion.fpo 12:22:18 oh yes, please! if you think you can help with anything (including brainstorming or planning, please reach out) 12:22:19 #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-badges-long-term-maintenance-discussion/41109 12:22:20 ^ re: FWD 12:22:24 riecatnor[m]: I have cake !! :) 12:22:39 It was cakey :) \ 12:22:42 * It was cakey :) 12:23:05 the way it should be 😌😌 12:23:25 this birthday my friends got me waffle cake! 12:23:25 I loved it 12:23:31 ok, anyone else have things for announcements and info time? 12:23:32 it was literally a tower of waffles 12:23:40 * VipulSiddharth[m has nothing 12:24:03 there is Pre Beta testing going on, but guess thats more QA then Mindshare 12:24:11 for F37 that is 12:24:20 luna do you have a link to some info? 12:24:22 yup 12:24:34 #info REMINDER: There will be a Fedora Accessibility working meeting today (2022-08-30) at 14:00 UTC @ https://meet.jit.si/fedora-accessibility-meeting. Please check the agenda at https://hackmd.io/@fedora-accessibility-team/rJysNZ5ko/edit 12:24:41 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/KVVU6JVOKF4WI4ZS6AFLB7IVBCCNKFCX/ 12:24:59 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4W73GLGYBDRUW4NYTT7RYDTK4ELR2LNQ/ 12:25:03 #info Fedora 37 Pre-Beta Validation Event kicks off 2022-08-31 through 2022-08-07 12:25:03 Sumantro Mukherjee: needs a lot of support here! 12:25:10 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/KVVU6JVOKF4WI4ZS6AFLB7IVBCCNKFCX/ 12:25:33 thank you for the accessibility sig meeting reminder, Vipul! 12:25:36 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/Q2FU44CAWP35NOTNSEOHS3TMJTB5XELM/ 12:25:43 thats all 3 emails 12:25:52 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4W73GLGYBDRUW4NYTT7RYDTK4ELR2LNQ/ 12:26:00 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/Q2FU44CAWP35NOTNSEOHS3TMJTB5XELM/ 12:26:05 cool 12:26:08 anything else for today? 12:26:14 and next week we are testing the i18n and GNOME 43 RC 12:26:40 cool, lets get to that one next week then 12:26:47 sure 12:26:54 #topic todays agenda 12:27:05 anyone have specific topics to discuss today? 12:27:44 I used DALL-E from Open AI to get a gravatar for myslf :3 12:27:44 thank you lol 12:27:51 s/get/generate 12:28:01 lol, very nice bear 12:28:11 Fedora Blue 12:28:21 it looks slightly surprised, yet curious 12:28:50 when enlarged, looks happy 12:28:50 but I see it looking a little surprised here haha 12:29:24 ok, ill keep moving, if anyone has topics, feel free to raise them :) 12:29:26 #topic tickets 12:29:28 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/360 12:29:57 we took a look at this at our late thursday meeting, not much commentary, just yes, lets do this 12:30:08 +1 :) will try to attend 12:30:09 anyone have input before I submit the official request? 12:30:31 I do have one topic as well 12:30:42 ok Onuralp Sezer lets finish this one up and we can go to yours :) 12:30:46 yup 12:30:47 np 12:31:04 and i have a curious question for the end 12:31:05 I already commented plus Vipul there too so I trust him 12:31:12 added my +1 12:31:15 thank you davdunc ! 12:31:27 Sure luna shoot 12:32:00 luna__: what is your question? or do you want to wait til open floor? 12:32:07 was just wondering if the printing shop, found the right blue for the Fedora Workstation t-shirts? 12:32:29 but no worries if not i can wait :p (just curious) 12:32:42 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/347 12:33:00 I am getting a pre-production proof to ensure the fedora blue is correct 12:33:04 that is under way and I should have it soon 12:33:18 if its not, we might need to re-work the artwork 12:33:22 ah i see 12:33:26 basically waiting for cool teee-shirt 12:33:34 yeah was just curious thanks 12:34:02 it's a stellar design. 12:34:02 the artwork game as a bitmap (versus a vector), so it becomes harder to match the colors 12:34:02 I want this tshirt so much (design is amazing) 12:34:02 but I am not a member of the workstation team :P 12:34:04 s/game/came/ 12:34:13 We have to be :) 12:34:28 so for anyone who prints a tee shirt in the future, make sure you get vector graphics from your artists :D 12:34:28 Vipul do stuff on sysadmin power :) 12:34:54 it can be a challenge without 12:35:11 osezer[m]: unfair to the actual members doing stuff 12:35:11 I feel these should be rewards haha 12:35:11 so I will step back here :P 12:35:11 anyway, sorry to sidetrack conversation 12:35:18 good to know, well i am not a member but i attend their meetings and help out with GNOME stuff so looking forward to getting one when they are done printing and shipping, but no worries its a free t-shirt after all 12:35:18 May I shoot link (waiting) 12:35:23 so don't overwork on it :D 12:35:40 yes Onuralp, go ahead 12:35:43 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/298 12:36:08 F37 is coming as well so do we need to update the Museum and what do we do for this ticket as well 12:36:18 mmmm good one to bring up 12:36:38 the art is okay, I got in touch with Dhairya to remove the QR code so that it is no longer event specific 12:36:58 or swap QR code for next anything else 12:37:06 I also recommend getting access and moving the repository to somewhere more accessible to us (to make changes) 12:37:09 the link stays the same https://play.workadventu.re/@/mindshare-committee/nestwithfedora/fedoramuseum 12:37:13 but QR being problem on certain cases and we got alot of feedback from previous event 12:37:18 people wants more link... 12:37:34 Currently it's under Dhairya's account 12:37:34 and silos would be an issue if we want to sustain it long term 12:37:34 i think its better to keep the QR code out, 12:37:40 let me see if i can get a link to the repo, it should be public 12:37:42 one sec 12:38:10 https://dhairyachaudhary.github.io/F34-Release/map.json 12:38:32 > <@siddharthvipul1:fedora.im> Currently it's under Dhairya's account 12:38:33 > and silos would be an issue if we want to sustain it long term 12:38:33 IMO It should be also stay a place work-adv like for handling files and etc... I know there was some issues on past just wanna be make sure we all good 12:39:00 yeah 12:39:00 I can fork it in Fedora-Infra org but that doesn't seem like a place for this 12:39:11 i think keeping it on the mindhsare repo makes sense? 12:39:13 * luna__ commented in the bug so we remember :) 12:39:30 you mean pagure ? 12:39:38 If so can work-adv handle pagure links ? 12:39:54 would pagure published pages work? 12:39:54 or is it GitHub pages exclusive 12:39:54 it seems all it cares about is JSON payload 12:39:56 oh, i think it needs to be a github link 12:40:11 i meant to store a copy in case we lose access somehow 12:40:11 riecatnor[m]: that is why I asked 12:40:16 we can mirror it 12:40:25 but we need a leg on github for work-adv 12:40:25 but, maybe with web & apps team if they have a github? 12:40:32 we do our stuff on gitlab 12:40:35 is it work ? 12:40:43 osezer[m]: complications 12:40:43 I am not a big fan of 12:40:43 I think we can do it on gitlab page and keep it there 12:40:49 #link https://github.com/dhairyachaudhary/F34-Release 12:40:53 osezer[m]: should! 12:40:53 let's try :P 12:40:59 want to give it a shot in a hackfest sorta thing? 12:41:14 okay I can open a repo 12:41:15 sure we can try 12:41:23 I have enough admin power for gitlab side to test it 12:41:28 can always email and ask? hello@workadventu.re 12:41:42 I am certainly open to folks attempting to update the maps for each event, but I think we should keep one version that is "generic" 12:41:42 before mail we can check docs 12:41:56 riecatnor[m]: Yes 12:42:05 that way if that person who can make updates isn't around, we have the generic one ready to go 12:42:14 If you are looking to host your maps on your own webserver, be sure to read the Self-hosting your map guide. 12:42:19 https://workadventu.re/map-building/hosting.md 12:42:25 so one generic repo and other repos for each release or event based stuff 12:42:26 maybe thats of help? 12:42:29 I guess ? 12:42:29 yeah 12:42:29 and we can also have a doc for easy updates like QR codes (it just changing file with same name) 12:42:37 "But using GitHub pages is not necessary. You can host your maps on any webserver." 12:42:48 work adventure account should be free, and you can set up a map for free and test it etc 12:43:04 yeah, we will use GitLab 12:43:04 it just needs JSON payload 12:43:08 for bigger events, we pay, so that would need to get in mine (or the new fcaics) account 12:43:50 needs CORS headers however (whatever that is) not really a web person 12:44:02 but i guess you can figure that out :p 12:45:12 for the rest of ticket 298, we need a pagure template so folks can request, and a short bit of documentation for our Docs page 12:45:30 bt0: still up to work on the template? 12:45:44 yep 12:45:57 awesome :D 12:46:05 :) 12:46:45 I think we can base it off the Hopin request template, but you can remove a lot, and anything to do with hopin specifically 12:47:26 ok, anything else for ticket 298? 12:48:24 just looking forward to the event! 12:48:42 will try to attend if i can might be busy if its around 17th November as thats my birthday 12:49:09 but will try to join for FWD atleast, 37 release party its a maybe 12:49:13 im confused, what event :P 12:49:46 ALL THE EVENTS 12:49:48 oh sorry. I was just relating trhe work on the map with the Diversity event. 12:49:50 :) 12:49:55 no worries :) 12:50:09 FWD in October and F37 Release Party in November 12:50:19 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/310 12:50:33 we got an event report for this, so I think we are good to close it out :) 12:50:38 #link https://alexacosta.wordpress.com/first-post-covid-conference/ 12:50:58 tho I thought I sent them a new tablecloth, so not sure why that isn't in the pic 12:50:58 nice and the next SCALE is in March 2023 if i remember correctly 12:51:00 hmmmm 12:51:16 I need to check with my fulfilment folks about the status of those tableclothes 12:52:08 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/358 12:52:34 this looks pretty great to me! 12:52:51 can a few more people add votes- then I can go on and send them to request the swag 12:53:07 I am already shopping it around to friends in the area. :) 12:53:15 done 12:53:45 sisters birthday and too far from Brazil, but ofcourse the brazilians should have a release party 12:54:42 ok, I will comment on the ticket in a few minutes! 12:54:46 #topic open floor 12:54:58 * luna__ already asked what i had 12:55:00 anything for open floor? 12:55:22 I mentioned in the last meeting (i think), but we have chosen a new fcaic and they will start in october! 12:55:44 congrats to the new FCAIC and thanks to riecatnor[m] for all the work :) 12:55:52 and hope OSPO is glad to have you instead ;) 12:56:20 I am very excited, I know they will do an amazing job! and I think there will be some kind of announcement coming later on 12:56:33 riecatnor glad you aren't far way, but we will miss your everyday support! 12:56:50 Thanks for everything Marie :) 12:57:03 from then til now, lets try to close as many mindshare tickets and hit our documentation/template goals so things are very fresh and ready for the new fcaic :D 12:57:23 sounds like a plan 12:57:39 Looking forward to working with and supporting the new FCAIC too. 12:57:39 I am working on documentation for some of the fcaics important internal processes, and working to get things prepped for them 12:58:21 anything else for open floor today? 12:59:30 oh i just found another ticket to close: https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/87 13:00:35 guess thats it for today! 13:00:41 fine with me 13:00:52 cya next time i have time to attend 13:00:53 thanks everyone, a very well attended and productive meeting today :D 13:01:01 I just got a huge list of todo's! 13:01:11 you got this davdunc ! 13:01:21 :)! 13:01:25 have a great day everyone! 13:01:27 #endmeeting