12:00:54 <riecatnor[m]> #startmeeting Mindshare
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12:01:15 <luna> jwf|web: riecatnor[m]: perfect thanks :)
12:01:16 <riecatnor[m]> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
12:01:17 * jwf|web waves to riecatnor[m] and bt0
12:01:21 * luna is here
12:01:22 <luna> hello
12:01:24 <bt0> hi o/
12:01:25 <riecatnor[m]> .members mindshare
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12:01:37 <riecatnor[m]> hmmmmm
12:01:42 <riecatnor[m]> zodbot is a bit slow this morning already lol
12:02:02 <riecatnor[m]> hey jwf|web luna bt0 !
12:02:03 <riecatnor[m]> .members mindshare
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12:02:20 <riecatnor[m]> guess that's not gonna work today ;)
12:02:25 <jwf|web> Womp womp. zodbot said it's not having it this morning :P
12:02:55 <bt0> hi everyone :)
12:02:57 <riecatnor[m]> #chair bt0 jwf|web Máirín Duffy pbokoc nb smeragoel Madeline Peck davdunc
12:02:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: Duffy Madeline Máirín Peck bt0 davdunc jwf|web nb pbokoc riecatnor[m] smeragoel
12:03:04 <riecatnor[m]> #topic hellos!
12:03:08 <luna> hi
12:03:49 <riecatnor[m]> so biggest welcome to jwf|web today!!!!
12:04:24 <jwf|web> It's good to be back :)
12:04:40 <bt0> welcome
12:04:43 <riecatnor[m]> Justin is our new F-🍰
12:04:44 <luna> yeah welcome as the new FCAIC :)
12:04:48 <riecatnor[m]> 🎉🎉🎉🎉
12:05:27 <riecatnor[m]> Really excited to welcome Justin, I know he is going to do a spectacular job
12:06:22 <jwf|web> I'm looking forward to ramping up on all things Fedora :)
12:06:36 <riecatnor[m]> We are working on handing the various projects and things from me to Justin this week
12:07:09 <bt0> awesome
12:07:13 <jwf|web> I'll be around in IRC/Matrix fully soon – but for now, you can also ping me at jwf@redhat.com
12:07:15 <riecatnor[m]> And we are planning to stay connected on the short, medium, and long term in various capacities so I can help him with whatever as needed :)
12:07:23 <jwf|web> riecatnor++
12:08:24 <luna> sounds good
12:09:02 <riecatnor[m]> I have been running things in my own way during my time :) Please be open to and expect some changes with Justin as fcaic
12:09:35 <riecatnor[m]> so how's everyone doing today?
12:09:49 <riecatnor[m]> besides being very excited for the new fcaic ;)
12:10:29 <jwf|web> I'm slowly getting into my morning coffee :)
12:10:50 <luna> having a bit of a migrane and light cold, but i survive
12:10:51 <bt0> it's a cool day here, coffee sounds great
12:11:09 <riecatnor[m]> oh no Luna, sorry to hear that
12:11:45 <riecatnor[m]> oops, I forgot someone for chair
12:11:46 <riecatnor[m]> #chair Onuralp Sezer
12:11:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: Duffy Madeline Máirín Onuralp Peck Sezer bt0 davdunc jwf|web nb pbokoc riecatnor[m] smeragoel
12:11:58 <riecatnor[m]> I started in on the coffee pretty early but def need more lol
12:12:06 <riecatnor[m]> was reading for a book club this morning before work
12:12:34 <riecatnor[m]> #topic announcements and information
12:12:50 <riecatnor[m]> for the record :)
12:13:15 <riecatnor[m]> #info we welcomed a new FCAIC starting on October 10th, Justin W. Flory!
12:13:19 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/welcome-to-our-new-fedora-community-action-and-impact-coordinator/
12:13:56 <riecatnor[m]> #info the Community Platform Engineering Team is hiring a software engineer based in India
12:13:58 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-hiring-a-software-engineer/
12:14:38 <riecatnor[m]> #info the Fedora Week of Diversity event is coming up this Saturday October 15th, make sure to register and share the link
12:14:47 <luna> will try to attend
12:14:48 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-week-of-diversity-2022
12:15:04 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/register-for-fedora-week-of-diversity-2022/42998
12:15:34 <riecatnor[m]> #info recordings are now available for Nest with Fedora 2022! Check out the playlist and share with friends
12:15:35 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/recordings-now-available-for-nest-with-fedora-2022/
12:16:04 <riecatnor[m]> #info Fedora is participating in Hacktoberfest 2022, check out how you can get involved :)
12:16:06 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-to-the-fedora-project-during-hacktoberfest-2022/
12:17:01 <jwf|web> isagordillo++ t0xic0der++
12:17:11 <riecatnor[m]> #info we are in that wonky time zone part of the year! make sure to check your calendar!
12:17:18 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/reminder-summer-time-changes-coming-up/27831/4
12:17:49 <jwf|web> I'm ready for DST to be abolished :-)
12:18:46 <riecatnor[m]> #link there is an interesting thread about "Marketing to Mainstream" on discussion.fpo, check it out and chime in if you've got Opinions™
12:18:53 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/marketing-to-the-mainstream-questions-to-think-about-also-interview/42816
12:19:20 <riecatnor[m]> #info help wanted for GNOME Calendar blocker issues
12:19:31 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/help-wanted-gnome-calendar-blocker-issues/42940/2
12:20:13 <riecatnor[m]> #info there is some great work under way on getting Badges into shape, check in on the progress on discussion.fpo
12:20:14 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/getting-fedora-badges-back-in-shape/42942
12:21:00 <riecatnor[m]> I think that's all I have for today :)
12:21:07 <riecatnor[m]> anyone else have announcements or info to share?
12:22:31 <luna> request for Devrooms and Stands for FOSDEM 2023 is open and Fedora will have a stand
12:23:13 <SamN[m]> riecatnor[m]: Oh, hi! Just wanted to thank you guys for bringing this to the spotlight
12:23:32 <riecatnor[m]> it's a great thread, happy to see that conversation happening :)
12:24:40 <riecatnor[m]> I wonder if the cfp for FOSDEM is open or closed
12:25:23 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> Hello o/
12:25:26 <luna> still closed i think saw nothing on http://penta.fosdem.org yet
12:25:28 <luna> hi OnuralpSezer[m]1
12:25:29 <jwf|web> I haven't seen it open up yet for talks/sessions.
12:25:37 * jwf|web waves to OnuralpSezer[m]1
12:25:51 <riecatnor[m]> #info FOSDEM 2023 will happen in person this year, Fedora is planning a booth! more info to come
12:25:58 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://fosdem.org/2023/news/
12:26:09 <riecatnor[m]> Hiya Onuralp Sezer ! how are you today?
12:26:16 <riecatnor[m]> any more announcements or info for today?
12:26:23 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> I will be awesome If justin read his reddit messages please :)
12:26:45 <jwf|web> Oh, I forgot I was on Reddit hahah.
12:26:56 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> Also Welcome jwf|web
12:27:02 <jwf|web> Could you send to jwf@redhat.com instead? I have to find my Reddit login.
12:27:20 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> jwf|web: Thank you :))
12:27:20 <riecatnor[m]> hope those are good messages 🙈
12:27:35 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: I just ask some mod power :)
12:27:41 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> jwf|web: You really really have to :)
12:27:43 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> * to :) find that account
12:28:07 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> <jwf|web> "isagordillo++ t0xic0der++" <- jflory7++ :)
12:28:10 <riecatnor[m]> ok, I am going to take that as no more announcements or info for today :)
12:28:15 <riecatnor[m]> #topic today's agenda
12:28:15 <jwf|web> I have it, just have to figure out what email address I've used for that one.
12:28:19 <jwf|web> Yep, none from me!
12:28:26 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: nothing from me
12:28:42 <riecatnor[m]> anyone have specific things they'd like for us to discuss today?
12:29:06 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> Akashdeep Dhar:  welcome please be better soon guys give this awesome man some Fedora love he needs to heal quicker :)
12:29:18 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> * better soon., *  And guys give
12:29:36 <riecatnor[m]> we have no new tickets, most things are in progress. I have a few things that I want to bring: quarterly report and budget
12:29:45 <luna> nope i saw your answer on Pagure about FOSDEM travel sponsorship and sent out an email to you and Justin
12:30:03 <riecatnor[m]> and I figure any more time we have we can use to clean up the repo
12:30:21 <riecatnor[m]> sorry to hear you are unwell Akashdeep Dhar get better soon! take lots of rest
12:30:23 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: which repo ? budge website one ?
12:30:27 <riecatnor[m]> mindshare repo
12:30:32 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> s/budge/budget/
12:30:38 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> ah okay
12:30:47 <riecatnor[m]> been trying to clean that up but we still have 40 tickets in there :P
12:30:50 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: I can handle some of them ?
12:31:02 <riecatnor[m]> I swear we have closed like 20 in the last month
12:31:04 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: +++
12:31:05 <riecatnor[m]> let's discuss as a group :)
12:31:25 <riecatnor[m]> so if there are no other topics to add for now, I will move us forward
12:31:32 <riecatnor[m]> feel free to raise if something pressing comes up
12:31:51 <riecatnor[m]> #topic fedora budget
12:32:09 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> riecatnor[m]: Will do :)
12:32:10 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> Thanks for your kind wishes ♥️
12:32:37 <riecatnor[m]> mostly I want to say, I have been very busy juggling and spinning plates.. also got sick while traveling and it's taken a lot to recover.. also trying to prep for Justin to start.. and I owe you all a budget report
12:32:43 <jwf|web> AkashdeepDhar[m]: Hope you feel better soon!
12:33:02 <VipulSiddharth[m> .hello siddharthvipul1
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12:33:12 <VipulSiddharth[m> hello my lovely people <3
12:33:12 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> .hello t0xic0der
12:33:12 <VipulSiddharth[m> sorry to hijack XD
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12:33:19 <VipulSiddharth[m> boooo
12:33:32 <riecatnor[m]> I am working on making sure that is fully up to date, with the feedback from mindshare incorporated as well. at the same time I will be updating Justin on the budget things. Him and/or myself will be providing a report next week
12:33:40 <riecatnor[m]> hi Vipul Siddharth :)
12:33:40 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> VipulSiddharth[m: Won't let you have all the fun of blowing zodbot up ;P
12:33:54 * jwf|web waves to VipulSiddharth[m
12:34:05 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> Vipul drop the boom :) and zodbot didn't handle it :))
12:34:20 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> * it :))  Hello o/
12:34:29 <jwf|web> #question What is the format for the budget report typically? A CommBlog post?
12:35:15 <riecatnor[m]> I have been giving informal updates, Justin
12:35:15 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> Normally there is a website for full report and you can write some small blog post and point to budget website but budget website quite old atm ?
12:35:30 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> * IMO, Normally there
12:35:44 <riecatnor[m]> the budget website was never fully operational, bex was manually updating that and I don't have that skillset
12:35:47 <jwf|web> I remember Bex's website, but I think it was a Bex thing :)
12:35:55 <riecatnor[m]> I last produced a pdf
12:36:06 <riecatnor[m]> let me grab the previous one
12:36:11 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> jwf|web: yup
12:36:34 <riecatnor[m]> hmmm the upload is failing
12:36:39 <jwf|web> riecatnor[m]: Thanks! I was curious for what precedent is for the last few releases.
12:36:46 * riecatnor[m] uploaded an image: (219KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/fedora.im/c66a2244ddfdff9f40459511f984c73aa7b3d998/Budget%20Report-%20FY%2022.png >
12:36:49 <jwf|web> If you can't pull it up now, no worries
12:37:01 <jwf|web> Ooh, pretty
12:37:38 <riecatnor[m]> providing these reports has admittedly not been my strong suit, although we haven't run out of money, and I have done a decent job making sure we have spent the majority of it the past three years
12:38:10 <riecatnor[m]> I definitely think this is a place which needs improvement. Since you are starting fresh, Justin, I would suggest implementing the best way you feel it should be done
12:38:20 <riecatnor[m]> and it would be great to be sustainable so that the next fcaic has an easier time than I
12:38:31 <jwf|web> I'll definitely be taking a think on this one
12:38:55 <luna> /j #kde
12:38:57 <jwf|web> The PDF report looks nice anyways though :)
12:39:00 <luna> woops
12:39:05 <riecatnor[m]> you and I will take some time to review the budget and I can show you how the png I shared was made
12:39:13 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor:  Akashdeep Dhar  maybe after we can do something similar to budget website after we did our work on new websites (we have our CMS stuff and we can info more easily..... what do you think guys ?)
12:39:14 <jwf|web> riecatnor++
12:39:30 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> * we can add info more
12:39:45 <riecatnor[m]> if there was a nice interface to update websites, that any avg person can use with ease, I think that would be great
12:40:46 <jwf|web> I wonder if other open communities have tried to solve this problem before
12:40:49 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> OnuralpSezer[m]1: +1. This should make it easy for folks to go ahead and make changes without worrying about the technicalities.
12:42:19 <riecatnor[m]> I have received some feedback that we need to make this more transparent. My focus ended up on other things, which were good things, but I admittedly didn't do the best job on this. I take accountability for that, and I hope that this is a place Justin can improve things
12:42:53 <riecatnor[m]> jwf|web: I think doing some research along these lines is a great approach
12:43:20 <jwf|web> riecatnor[m] Appreciate what you've done here already, it is not the most glorious part of the job :-)
12:43:38 <jwf|web> I can help support on research and exploration of ways to make this info more accessible
12:43:40 <riecatnor[m]> lol, for sure
12:44:02 <jwf|web> I have a few early ideas but I think it is off-topic for right now
12:44:10 <riecatnor[m]> thank you, Justin. And I am definitely up to brainstorm with you on what/how would be the best approach
12:44:14 <jwf|web> \o/
12:44:32 <riecatnor[m]> ok, anything else regarding budget for now?
12:45:44 <riecatnor[m]> I will take that as a no, but this will come up again soon :)
12:45:45 <riecatnor[m]> #topic quarterly report
12:45:47 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/333
12:45:59 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=11306&preview=true&_thumbnail_id=10616
12:46:06 <riecatnor[m]> so, the Q2 report never made it all the way out
12:46:36 <riecatnor[m]> my question is- should this still go out?
12:46:58 * jwf|web is logging in to see the preview
12:47:17 <riecatnor[m]> next question is- do we think this is useful long term? tbh it's been a bit tough gathering the info
12:47:21 <luna> if its not too much work? but maybe can move it in Wordpress to an earlier date
12:47:33 <riecatnor[m]> hmm the preview should be public?
12:47:43 <luna> got a 404 here
12:47:59 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=11306&preview=1&_ppp=a566018dd4
12:48:10 <riecatnor[m]> sent the wrong link, oops. that one should work
12:48:32 <riecatnor[m]> in theory, this is a great thing. in practice, we lost some steam after a couple reports and it got a lot harder to do
12:48:38 <jwf|web> riecatnor[m]: What has the outreach been like around this? Any feedback from any teams, or what do other team reps here feel about it?
12:48:47 <luna> yep that works
12:49:14 <riecatnor[m]> Also Nest happened and consumed my work life so this went to the wayside
12:49:37 <jwf|web> Also, how are updates flagged for publishing? Does one person take ownership and finding news, or does everyone pitch in on a draft each quarter?
12:49:44 <riecatnor[m]> We would manage to get about 1/3 of the post in meetings with Mindshare, 1/3 from reaching out to various other teams (that don't have reps), and 1/3 was me gathering random bits of info
12:50:12 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/procedures/quarterly_report/
12:50:23 <jwf|web> Aha, should have read the docs :)
12:51:50 <jwf|web> I see there is a template - is that text somewhere public? Not sure I am in the HackMD team
12:52:40 <riecatnor[m]> just added you as an admin to the hackmd team
12:52:44 <jwf|web> Cool!
12:53:04 <riecatnor[m]> this link should work
12:53:05 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hackmd.io/team/mindsharecommittee?nav=overview
12:53:11 <jwf|web> Some of this we will probably have to pick up next time, but I'm keen to hear from other #chairs on what they think
12:53:15 <jwf|web> #chair
12:53:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: Duffy Madeline Máirín Onuralp Peck Sezer bt0 davdunc jwf|web nb pbokoc riecatnor[m] smeragoel
12:54:04 <jwf|web> Cool, I'm in and I see the template now :+1:
12:54:06 <riecatnor[m]> so if you create a new note, there is a quarterly report template you can load
12:54:15 <riecatnor[m]> perfect
12:54:34 <bt0> says forbidden for me
12:54:39 <riecatnor[m]> ok, so let's try to answer just one question today
12:55:12 <riecatnor[m]> @bt0 are you signed into hackmd?
12:55:31 <riecatnor[m]> i see you are not on the admin list, but maybe I didn't have your hackmd screenname
12:56:41 <riecatnor[m]> my one question is: should we still publish the q2 report even tho it is late?
12:57:07 <jwf|web> I think the content is relevant for the archive – I would publish but maybe not push as hard on comms
12:57:09 <luna> yeah
12:57:15 <luna> jwf|web: +1
12:58:04 <riecatnor[m]> Ok, I am going to submit it for publication this week
12:58:20 <jwf|web> :thumbsup:
12:58:35 <riecatnor[m]> the question of the reports long term is still up for discussion :)
12:58:47 <riecatnor[m]> ok those were my topics, no time for repo clean up unfortunately.
12:59:06 <riecatnor[m]> This is my last time running the mindshare meeting, it's been wonderful, my friends
12:59:17 <luna> enjoy your future journeys
12:59:35 <riecatnor[m]> I feel like I might be back one day ;) but not as fcaic
12:59:37 <jwf|web> riecatnor++
12:59:57 <jwf|web> Once a Fedoran, always a Fedoran
13:00:15 <riecatnor[m]> and bt0, if you send your hackmd name I can add you to the mindsahre space
13:00:24 <riecatnor[m]> <3 <3 <3
13:00:27 <bt0> cool
13:00:30 <riecatnor[m]> to you all!
13:00:34 <riecatnor[m]> #endmeeting