15:00:10 <nils> #startmeeting modularity_wg
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15:00:10 <langdon> nils, we having a meeting today? (see what i did there?) im still working through the plans..
15:00:10 <nils> #meetingtopic Weekly meeting of Modularity WG
15:00:10 <nils> #chair dgilmore langdon tflink
15:00:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: dgilmore langdon nils tflink
15:00:17 <langdon> ha
15:00:18 <sgallagh> .hello sgallagh
15:00:20 <zodbot> sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' <sgallagh@redhat.com>
15:00:21 <nils> that was timing!
15:00:31 <tflink> .hello tflink
15:00:32 <nils> #topic Roll Call
15:00:32 <zodbot> tflink: tflink 'Tim Flink' <tflink@redhat.com>
15:00:36 <langdon> .hello langdon
15:00:37 <zodbot> langdon: langdon 'Langdon White' <langdon@fishjump.com>
15:00:39 <jkurik> .hello jkurik
15:00:39 <nils> .hello nphilipp
15:00:40 <zodbot> jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' <jkurik@redhat.com>
15:00:44 <zodbot> nils: nphilipp 'Nils Philippsen' <nphilipp@redhat.com>
15:00:46 <contyk> .hello psabata
15:00:50 <zodbot> contyk: psabata 'Petr Šabata' <psabata@redhat.com>
15:01:23 <nils> #topic Agenda
15:01:23 <nils> #info piratepad.nl is down, seemingly for good
15:01:23 <nils> #info Badges Reloaded: Sometimes They Come Back
15:01:23 <nils> #info Upcoming modulemd changes
15:01:23 <nils> #info BaseRuntime bootstrap
15:01:32 <nils> anything else for the agenda?
15:01:57 <asamalik> .hello asamalik
15:01:57 <nils> *crickets*
15:01:57 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
15:02:11 <nils> ok...
15:02:23 <nils> #topic piratepad.nl is down, seemingly for good
15:02:26 <cpacheco> .hello cpacheco
15:02:27 <zodbot> cpacheco: cpacheco 'Courtney Pacheco' <cpacheco@redhat.com>
15:03:00 <nils> #info piratepad.nl stopped working between last meeting and the meeting before, and didn't come back since
15:03:25 <nils> #link http://piratepad.net/modularity-wg-agendas New pad for the meeting agendas
15:03:43 <nils> Let's hope this one doesn't follow suit. ;)
15:04:08 <nils> I still wonder why we don't have an Etherpad instance of our own in Fedora.
15:04:14 <contyk> :)
15:04:17 <contyk> +1
15:04:19 * moto-timo wonders the same thing
15:04:26 <asamalik> nils: haha I just wanted to ask the same :)
15:04:41 <asamalik> ...question
15:04:53 <nils> Yeah, I mean we have our own git forge.
15:04:54 <moto-timo> .hello ttorling
15:04:55 <zodbot> moto-timo: ttorling 'None' <TicoTimo@gmail.com>
15:04:59 <nils> anyway, next
15:05:07 <dgilmore> hi
15:05:17 <nils> #topic Badges Reloaded: Sometimes They Come Back
15:05:29 <nils> yeah, so the badge thing is still open :)
15:05:38 <nils> as I understand it
15:05:52 <nils> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/466
15:06:25 <moto-timo> no new traffic since last week
15:06:26 <nils> TBH, the last comments haven't cleared up which one of the candidates is suitable according to the badge people and which isn't.
15:07:00 <nils> Anybody who gets it better than I do?
15:07:15 <dgilmore> I would ask them to do it
15:07:54 * langdon very distracted today
15:08:08 * nils hands langdon a verb :P
15:08:08 * moto-timo would like to see a comment besides duffy's
15:08:20 <nils> I'll ask
15:08:51 <nils> #action nils asks which candidates are suitable according to badge guidelines in the ticket
15:09:13 <nils> #topic Upcoming modulemd changes
15:09:16 <nils> #chair contyk
15:09:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: contyk dgilmore langdon nils tflink
15:09:23 <contyk> right
15:09:50 <contyk> just a heads-up: I'll be doing a couple of changes to modulemd, both the spec and the library
15:10:17 <contyk> namely I'll change the versioning bit, filters and api; once that's done, I plan to do our first stable release
15:10:30 <moto-timo> contyk++
15:10:33 <contyk> as far as I know, only three projects use it directly -- rida, the dnf plugin and copr
15:10:52 <contyk> if you have an application that relies on the current, v0 api, let me know
15:10:59 <asamalik> contyk: I'll let the copr team know about this change
15:11:16 <contyk> it will go into a separate branch at first so people can review the changes
15:11:26 <contyk> I guess that's all for now
15:11:39 <contyk> oh yeah, this should happen within the next two weeks
15:12:56 <contyk> nils: next topic? :)
15:13:05 <nils> contyk: sure :)
15:13:18 <nils> contyk: anything about that you want to #info/#link?
15:13:38 <contyk> nope, there isn't anything at this point
15:13:52 <nils> I mean, something should go into the minutes ;)
15:13:59 <nils> I'll write something
15:15:03 <nils> #info first stable release of modulemd planned, changes imminent in the areas of versioning, filters and api
15:15:13 <contyk> nils: thanks
15:15:21 <nils> #action asamalik informs COPR team about it
15:15:36 * asamalik will
15:15:36 <nils> good...
15:15:38 <moto-timo> I was going to suggest that
15:15:50 <nils> #topic BaseRuntime bootstrap
15:16:00 <nils> again, I suspect, contyk :)
15:16:02 <contyk> right, me again :)
15:16:26 <contyk> so just a quick status report -- we have the very first base-runtime module definition; it's really really large
15:16:36 <contyk> but it's a start
15:16:49 <moto-timo> how large is large?
15:16:52 <contyk> the plan is to bootstrap the modularity infra with this content and continue from there
15:17:02 <nils> moto-timo: I heard ~8k packages
15:17:02 <contyk> moto-timo: it's ~5500 rpms, ~2500 srpms
15:17:20 <moto-timo> how many in Fedora-Docker-Base ??
15:17:52 <nils> #info the very first base-runtime module definition is ready, it's really really large
15:18:01 <nils> #info the plan is to bootstrap the modularity infra with this content and continue from there
15:18:12 <sgallagh> moto-timo: This is a prototype, not anything close to final content
15:18:24 <sgallagh> It's necessary to have all the buildrequires available
15:18:30 <moto-timo> sure, mostly just asking myself
15:18:39 <nils> #info it's a prototype, not final content
15:18:43 <moto-timo> :)
15:19:07 * contyk lost link
15:19:13 <contyk> what sgallagh says :)
15:19:31 <nils> contyk: does that mean you have to do it again? :P
15:19:53 <contyk> nils: it means I couldn't respond to the question :)
15:20:24 * moto-timo does not expect instant answers
15:20:28 <contyk> this is what we're going to use for the first build -- http://pkgs.stg.fedoraproject.org/cgit/modules/base-runtime.git/tree/base-runtime.yaml
15:20:56 <contyk> just so you have an idea; and really, it's nowhere near the "final product"
15:21:26 <moto-timo> function is more important for a prototype anyway :)
15:22:44 <contyk> so that's it from me today
15:23:13 * asamalik_ was at the same room, using the same wifi as contyk and totally lost irc connection :/
15:23:39 <nils> ok
15:23:48 <nils> #topic Open Floor
15:24:26 <nils> Anything for Open Floor?
15:24:34 <moto-timo> is BPO service down?
15:24:40 <nils> asamalik_: ?
15:25:01 <moto-timo> http://modularity.fedorainfracloud.org/modules/testmodule/
15:25:10 <moto-timo> tells me service unavailable
15:25:35 <nils> contyk: does asamalik_ have wifi issues still?
15:26:16 * contyk goes to poke him
15:26:23 * asamalik_ is here
15:26:44 <asamalik_> moto-timo: let me check
15:26:53 <asamalik_> moto-timo: it's nothing planned
15:28:03 <moto-timo> I was able to build testmodule, but I couldn't get to BPO and don't see it on http://koji.stg.fedoraproject.org
15:28:37 <moto-timo> (not a complaint. an observation :)
15:30:16 <nils> ok, anything else (I don't think we have to wait this one out)?
15:30:29 <asamalik_> moto-timo: my connection is %$@#$ and I can't use cable right now... so SSH is not working for me well
15:30:34 <asamalik_> moto-timo: I'll investigate later
15:30:45 <moto-timo> asamalik_: thanks
15:33:41 <nils> it seems we have nothing else...
15:33:51 <nils> In that case, thanks for attending!
15:33:55 <nils> #endmeeting