14:01:43 <nils> #startmeeting modularity_wg 14:01:43 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 18 14:01:43 2017 UTC. The chair is nils. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:43 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:43 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'modularity_wg' 14:01:43 <nils> #meetingtopic Meeting of the Modularity Working Group (once every two weeks) 14:01:43 <nils> #chair dgilmore 14:01:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: dgilmore nils 14:02:02 <nils> short list of chairs today :) 14:02:08 <nils> #topic Roll Call 14:02:09 <contyk> .hello psabata 14:02:10 <zodbot> contyk: psabata 'Petr Ĺ abata' <psabata@redhat.com> 14:02:13 <nils> .hello nphilipp 14:02:16 <zodbot> nils: nphilipp 'Nils Philippsen' <nphilipp@redhat.com> 14:02:16 <jkurik> .hello jkurik 14:02:17 <tflink> .hello tflink 14:02:19 <zodbot> jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' <jkurik@redhat.com> 14:02:22 <nils> #chair tflink 14:02:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: dgilmore nils tflink 14:02:22 <zodbot> tflink: tflink 'Tim Flink' <tflink@redhat.com> 14:02:36 <asamalik> .hello asamalik 14:02:38 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com> 14:02:56 <contyk> will have to leave at 30 but we don't have many things to talk about anyway 14:03:07 <contyk> at least according to the agenda 14:03:12 <nils> nope we don't 14:03:15 <nils> okay 14:03:26 <nils> #topic Agenda 14:03:26 <nils> #info update on BRT base image available in Fedora Registry (contyk) 14:03:44 <nils> anything else which isn't on the Agenda and too big for Open Floor? 14:04:00 <contyk> sadly I don't have any news here; we made some progress in learning how it's all actually done 14:04:13 <contyk> I know threebean was playing with imagefactory but he's on PTO today 14:04:22 <nils> #topic update on BRT base image available in Fedora Registry 14:04:24 <nils> #chair contyk 14:04:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: contyk dgilmore nils tflink 14:04:28 <nils> let's make it official :) 14:04:40 <contyk> we still provide a base image via docker hub, though 14:04:57 <nils> contyk, shall I #info that, or do you wanna? 14:05:06 <contyk> it's no news 14:05:13 <contyk> just reminding you :) 14:05:35 <nils> well, someone put it there ;) 14:06:07 <contyk> #info The Base Runtime docker base image is still on Docker Hub, updated nightly. 14:06:09 <asamalik> contyk: do you have a rough estimate when we could have that base image? 14:06:20 <asamalik> if it's days or weeks 14:06:51 <contyk> depends; do you need it badly? 14:07:13 <asamalik> contyk: not badly right now 14:07:22 <jkurik> perhaps once perl is gone :) 14:07:34 <contyk> indeed; we have other issues now :) 14:07:45 <contyk> asamalik: it won't be this week 14:07:53 <contyk> it might be the next one or the week after 14:08:07 <asamalik> contyk: that actually sounds good! 14:08:41 <contyk> yay 14:08:45 <asamalik> contyk: we need the modular dnf to be ready to use it anyway 14:09:00 <asamalik> or microdnf :) 14:09:16 <contyk> we have microdnf in the image today 14:09:24 <asamalik> contyk: can it install modules? 14:09:31 <contyk> it can install rpms 14:09:44 <contyk> it cannot do much besides that 14:10:22 <contyk> which is supposedly not a problem for you 14:10:55 <contyk> as everything will be in one compose and there will be exactly one version of each rpm available 14:11:42 <asamalik> geppetto would know better - but to your point, yes, it might be fine for f26 14:12:15 <asamalik> contyk: ok, thanks for info! 14:13:02 <contyk> nils: I think that's all for this point 14:13:10 <nils> ok 14:13:13 <nils> #topic Open Floor 14:13:18 <nils> anything for open floor then? 14:14:07 <contyk> just a note -- we have a new base runtime package set based on 26 alpha; it also includes several new packages required for lorax & multiarch support 14:14:16 <contyk> currently it means it also includes perl :) 14:14:31 <contyk> I'll try to fix that before Thursday 14:14:50 <asamalik> contyk: that's a very useful info as the modularity team works on common build dependencies and perl was one of them 14:15:04 <contyk> we're not including perl in base runtime 14:15:10 <asamalik> contyk: by fixing that, you mean removing perl again? 14:15:14 <contyk> yes 14:15:21 <asamalik> contyk: ah, ok, good 14:15:38 <contyk> there's no build of base runtime that includes perl; this is just something I noticed while updating the modulemd files like 30 minutes ago :) 14:15:53 <asamalik> contyk: so it wasn't intended, got it :) 14:16:20 <contyk> the thing is lorax installs fbset on ppc* 14:16:33 <contyk> and fbset installs a perl script, modeline2fb 14:16:48 <contyk> I think that's the only thing that pulls it in 14:17:37 <contyk> anyway, expect plenty of api changes 14:18:11 <contyk> but as promised during the last meeting, we will freeze the set on April 20 14:18:12 <asamalik> contyk: so are you rewriting it in shell? or do you want our perl module for some "ppc enablement" module? :P 14:18:24 <asamalik> contyk: cool 14:18:38 <nils> asamalik, I guess you could put it into its own subpackage. 14:18:43 <contyk> asamalik: I'll check whether it's really necessary and if it is, I will subpackage modeline2fb and filter it out 14:19:54 <asamalik> sounds good :) 14:20:34 <contyk> do you guys want to share any news? 14:21:38 <asamalik> yeah, we are currently working on build dependencies for our modules 14:22:03 <asamalik> as base runtime obviously don't include everything we need and we don't want to use contyk 's bootstrap hackish module :) 14:22:11 * asamalik is looking for a repo url 14:22:35 <nils> asamalik, that's why we have our own in the interim? ;) 14:22:50 <asamalik> nils: exactly - and that's the repo I'm looking for 14:23:10 <nils> asamalik, http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/modules/common-build-dependencies-bootstrap.git/ ? 14:23:19 <nils> do you mean that? 14:23:22 <asamalik> nils: yes! thanks 14:24:07 <asamalik> nils: but there was also a gh repo with readme 14:24:31 <nils> https://github.com/container-images/common-build-dependencies 14:24:38 <nils> this? 14:24:53 <asamalik> https://github.com/container-images/common-build-dependencies 14:24:55 <asamalik> ha, yes 14:25:22 <nils> asamalik, only shows where I've been loitering about lately :o) 14:25:54 <contyk> is this module going to be supported, the common build deps one? 14:26:01 <asamalik> so it includes a list of the build dependencies we need and we are working on a module that will include that - which is a first step for f26 14:26:28 <contyk> or is it just a build aid? 14:26:43 <asamalik> contyk: I would say it will live as short as possible to get f26 out and we will be splitting that for f27 into more logial pieces 14:27:00 <contyk> I mean for the f26 life cycle 14:27:41 <asamalik> nils: I don't think we have a decision for that, right? but it might be the same story as your bootstrap, with the exception it actually builds itself properly :P 14:27:55 * asamalik mentioned nils and started talk to contyk 14:28:04 * asamalik needs more coffee probably 14:28:04 <nils> asamalik, not my bootstrap (ttomecek's) but yeah 14:28:18 <asamalik> nils: I meant contyk's :) 14:28:27 <nils> or even contyk's, heh 14:28:47 <asamalik> so that was the main effort of the last two weeks 14:30:18 <nils> okay, is this it? 14:30:39 <asamalik> nils: it seems we're done :) 14:30:44 <nils> good! 14:30:48 <nils> thanks everyone! 14:30:51 <nils> #endmeeting