2023-12-04 13:02:51 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2023-12-04
2023-12-04 13:02:51 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2023-12-04 13:02:51 UTC
2023-12-04 13:02:51 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'NeuroFedora - 2023-12-04'
2023-12-04 13:03:09 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info The agenda is here: https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2023/12/04/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-04-December-1300-utc.html
2023-12-04 13:03:25 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic New introductions and roll call
2023-12-04 13:03:29 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !hello 
2023-12-04 13:03:30 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Ankur Sinha (ankursinha) - he / him / his
2023-12-04 13:03:38 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !hello
2023-12-04 13:03:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Sandro . (gui1ty)
2023-12-04 13:03:42 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> !hello
2023-12-04 13:03:43 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Josh Santos (nerdsville)
2023-12-04 13:04:18 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Let's wait here for a couple of minutes for folks to join in 
2023-12-04 13:04:24 <@major:fedora.im> !hello
2023-12-04 13:04:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aniket Pradhan (major) - he / him / his
2023-12-04 13:04:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Good to have you folks around Aniket Pradhan Josh Santos :)
2023-12-04 13:04:45 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Aniket Pradhan++
2023-12-04 13:04:47 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ankursinha gave a cookie to major. They now have 23 cookie(s), 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2023-12-04 13:05:15 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> Nice to be back!
2023-12-04 13:05:29 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Hi everyone!
2023-12-04 13:05:33 <@major:fedora.im> I need to get more active here... Just waiting to load fedora into a mac :P
2023-12-04 13:05:45 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> is that going to be supported native?
2023-12-04 13:05:51 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> (offtopic lol)
2023-12-04 13:05:55 <@major:fedora.im> I doubt lol
2023-12-04 13:06:10 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I have fedora running on a MacBook.
2023-12-04 13:06:28 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> oh wow! send us a link later on if you have a reference on how
2023-12-04 13:06:58 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I remember reading that it should "just work", not sure where though
2023-12-04 13:07:08 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> I always had driver issues
2023-12-04 13:07:35 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> "just work" isn't that an Apple trademark? 😜
2023-12-04 13:07:47 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> maybe not, well at least not till F37: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-37-installation-fails-on-mac-devices/72838
2023-12-04 13:08:01 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> You need some proprietary drivers from RPMFusion, yes.
2023-12-04 13:08:08 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> Huh fedora 38 supports it, nice!
2023-12-04 13:08:32 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> There's a beta: https://asahilinux.org/ etc.
2023-12-04 13:09:45 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Tasks from last meeting
2023-12-04 13:09:57 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Last meeting logs are here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/neuro_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2023-11-20/neurofedora.2023-11-20-13.00.html
2023-12-04 13:10:17 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info lqrt was reviewed and imported -> DONE
2023-12-04 13:10:53 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I haven't set up a regular calendar entry on fedocal yet. Given that this will probably be the last meeting until after the holidays, I thought it better to do it when we return
2023-12-04 13:11:07 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Also, I usually send the reminder to our mailing list, devel, and I Bcc the neuro-sig-members
2023-12-04 13:11:17 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but fedocal can only send to one mailing list
2023-12-04 13:11:28 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> also not sure how to add the blog link to the automated fedocal reminder..
2023-12-04 13:11:33 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !group members neuro-sig
2023-12-04 13:11:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Members of neuro-sig: aekoroglu, alciregi, anilbey, Ankur Sinha, blackfile, bt0dotninja, fangq, gicmo, Sandro ., hardeborlaa, ignatenkobrain, ilgrad, iztokf, lbazan, Maíra Canal, Aniket Pradhan, mhough, Benjamin Beasley, Josh Santos, sagitter, sergiopr, shaneallcroft, vanessakris, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
2023-12-04 13:11:50 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> So maybe I can set it up in fedocal but still send out the reminders manually?
2023-12-04 13:11:54 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> can mailing lists be part of other mailing lists?
2023-12-04 13:12:27 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> the BCC part I'm not sure though
2023-12-04 13:12:30 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Well, having it send out to our mailing list can act as a trigger to send it out to the rest.
2023-12-04 13:12:30 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> technically I'd think so, but it's probably not a good idea to set it up that way---how does one manage the subscription etc.
2023-12-04 13:12:43 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> ah right
2023-12-04 13:12:53 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> do you mean automated trigger, or that I then manually forward it to the others?
2023-12-04 13:13:03 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> manually
2023-12-04 13:13:21 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> but it's the same issue sending to devel as a whole - if they are in devel they'd get it anyways
2023-12-04 13:13:25 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> hrm, yeh, can do that
2023-12-04 13:13:42 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> there's no knowing who's subscribed to what ML. It's all voluntary
2023-12-04 13:13:51 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> and with folks moving to discussion.fp.o, we're also sort of split
2023-12-04 13:14:00 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> now that I think of it
2023-12-04 13:14:19 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> let's do that---set up the fedocal reminder, and then I can forward to others from there after adding the blog post URL etc
2023-12-04 13:14:48 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Ankur: set up fedocal reminder, then forward manually to other groups and discussion.fp.o
2023-12-04 13:14:59 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Or maybe have fedocal send it to discussion and then send out a mail with a link to the announcement on discussion.
2023-12-04 13:15:19 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> couldn't you just have a neurosig-fedocal (or similar) mailing list with neurosig, and devel
2023-12-04 13:15:27 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> saves a manual step
2023-12-04 13:15:44 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> let's not over automate a benign task
2023-12-04 13:15:47 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> yea
2023-12-04 13:15:49 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> a) dunno if fedocal can send to discussion b) if folks aren't on discussion and prefer the ML, they're not likely to then go to discussion.fp.o to see what's going on
2023-12-04 13:16:22 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh, I'll just do it manually, I do it now anway
2023-12-04 13:16:22 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> fedocal can be a reminder to me so I don't forget :D
2023-12-04 13:16:49 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> :+1:
2023-12-04 13:16:53 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Another task from the meeting before last was to start the non-responsive maintainer process for the python-pebble maintainer. 
2023-12-04 13:16:57 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> 👍️
2023-12-04 13:17:09 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'd e-mailed them last week as a last check and they haven't replied, so I'll start the process this week now
2023-12-04 13:17:23 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Ankur start non-responsive maintainer process for python-pebble maintainer
2023-12-04 13:17:32 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I can't think of anything else 🤔
2023-12-04 13:17:55 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> meeting room logos
2023-12-04 13:18:09 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> but I haven't made much progress there
2023-12-04 13:18:20 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Ah, OK, should I action you again?
2023-12-04 13:18:26 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> sur
2023-12-04 13:18:29 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> sure
2023-12-04 13:19:02 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Penguinpee speak to design/mindshare etc. about unique logos for the meeting rooms on matrix to make it easier for folks to get to them
2023-12-04 13:19:24 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> hrm, yeh, not sure---maybe it just takes the "final" text that's around when i end the meeting?
2023-12-04 13:19:40 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Open Pagure tickets
2023-12-04 13:19:42 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> we'll soon find out...
2023-12-04 13:19:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
2023-12-04 13:20:04 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info vxl -> 548 -> WIP
2023-12-04 13:20:26 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info move to meeting room -> 564 -> DONE (we're moving to meeting 1)
2023-12-04 13:20:47 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info plotly/bokeh -> 563: WIP (but no rush here)
2023-12-04 13:21:03 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info python-steps update -> 566 -> WIP
2023-12-04 13:21:17 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/566 -> is new, so let's take a quick look at this one
2023-12-04 13:21:22 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> Can I take this one: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/556 - seems a good light re-introduction to packaging
2023-12-04 13:22:11 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> If anyone's got an idea regarding the error with STEPS, please leave a comment in the ticket.
2023-12-04 13:22:20 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> sounds good, please assign it to your self and get going :)
2023-12-04 13:22:34 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> still looks like an rpath issue to me: 
```
/usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/cmTC_e7825.dir/sundials_get_version.cpp.o:
relocation R_X86_64_32 against `.rodata' can not be used when making a PIE
object; recompile with -fPIE
```
2023-12-04 13:22:54 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Penguinpee: I can work off your branch and see what's going on
2023-12-04 13:23:22 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Sure. That's why I pushed it. For others to build on.
2023-12-04 13:23:30 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'll have time during the holidays to work on some of these c/c++ packages 🤞
2023-12-04 13:24:21 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Penguinpee: sandi-omega-h is awaiting review, right? I can take that on (in the reviews topic coming up)
2023-12-04 13:24:32 <@major:fedora.im> any java package that I can have a go at? I have been working with it for some time, so I think I might want to explore that as well :P
2023-12-04 13:24:54 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> I found a bug in pagure just now :S lol
2023-12-04 13:25:07 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Benson Muite took it, but hasn't done anything so far. Not sure why.
2023-12-04 13:25:11 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Not that I can think off. Java packaging in Fedora is falling off a bit because it's next to impossible to reproduce gradle etc. builds manually
2023-12-04 13:25:23 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> if you have more than 2 email addresses, you can't set the 3rd or 4th as primary email address
2023-12-04 13:25:25 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> ah, cool, worth a ping if it hasn't moved in a week or so?
2023-12-04 13:25:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I thought the primary address will be the one set in FAS
2023-12-04 13:25:48 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> I thought so too
2023-12-04 13:25:49 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I didn't realise pagure lets you modify that stuff
2023-12-04 13:25:58 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> it's under user settings
2023-12-04 13:26:21 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> it does sync with FAS email, just doesn't update if you've changed your email enough times :D
2023-12-04 13:26:30 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Package health check
2023-12-04 13:26:33 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> and it allows you to swap primary with star icon
2023-12-04 13:26:35 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> There's a long standing bug there regarding e-mail addresses. Let me check.
2023-12-04 13:26:47 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> probably worth filing with infra if one doesn't already exist
2023-12-04 13:26:58 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> let's see what Penguinpee links
2023-12-04 13:27:09 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> (later) :)
2023-12-04 13:27:13 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I've also been getting authentication errors with ipsilon..
2023-12-04 13:27:19 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> I had that earlier
2023-12-04 13:27:24 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> took me like an hour to get into FAS
2023-12-04 13:27:40 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh, I'm sure my password is fine, so it's an infra issue
2023-12-04 13:27:45 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> also one we should file if not filed already
2023-12-04 13:27:54 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> action me for that
2023-12-04 13:27:59 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues
2023-12-04 13:28:23 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Josh Santos check to see if an issue about authentication errors in ipsilon has been filed; file new if not
2023-12-04 13:28:32 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Neuro-sig packager dashboard is here: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues
2023-12-04 13:28:37 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> uh, nope, not there..
2023-12-04 13:28:58 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I believe that was for FAS. Will dig it up later.
2023-12-04 13:29:10 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Neuro-sig packager dashboard is here: https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig
2023-12-04 13:29:55 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> ⌛️
2023-12-04 13:29:58 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> Lots of CVE's
2023-12-04 13:30:21 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> mostly TIFF I suppose
2023-12-04 13:30:29 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> looks like it
2023-12-04 13:31:01 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> That's an action item for me. I will close all those as discussed with Ankur.
2023-12-04 13:31:01 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Yeh, all tiff
2023-12-04 13:31:11 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Yeh, +1
2023-12-04 13:31:35 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> 🎉 dahboard finally loaded
2023-12-04 13:31:41 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> there's a few outside TIFF, are those critical?
2023-12-04 13:31:44 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> 🎉 dashboard finally loaded
2023-12-04 13:32:02 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Penguinpee close TIFF CVES as "wontfix" because it is unclear if the ancient version of libtiff bundled in NEURON is affected, and b) it's such a niche package that we can't really do much about it
2023-12-04 13:32:30 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> what is NEURON
2023-12-04 13:33:20 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/neuron/neuron/ -> very commonly used in computational neuroscience for modelling
2023-12-04 13:33:40 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> looks cool
2023-12-04 13:33:42 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2182846 -> this looks like it's in ffmpeg---what are we to do about it?
2023-12-04 13:34:16 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> first check if it's an upstream bug that's been patched I suppose
2023-12-04 13:34:28 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> if so, can backport
2023-12-04 13:34:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> no, but it isn't in our package at all. It's in a different package..
2023-12-04 13:34:48 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> well, we have libtiff bundled in a couple of packages - old, ancient versions of it
2023-12-04 13:34:49 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> ah
2023-12-04 13:34:51 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> so we can't do much here other than wait for an update in ffmpeg
2023-12-04 13:34:59 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> ping the maintainer?
2023-12-04 13:35:16 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'd expect CVEs to also be filed agains the main package already
2023-12-04 13:35:30 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> here we go: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2182839
2023-12-04 13:35:32 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> closed upstream
2023-12-04 13:35:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> so do we also close our bug as "closed upstream" then? 🤔
2023-12-04 13:35:59 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> seems reasonable
2023-12-04 13:36:04 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> the explanation seems sound
2023-12-04 13:36:39 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Looks like the CVE was also fixed and released in ffmpeg: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2182840
2023-12-04 13:36:42 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> although - is that saying it's a bug in open source, not in commercial redhat?
2023-12-04 13:36:45 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> ah ok
2023-12-04 13:36:48 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> so, all dependent bugs should jsut be closed
2023-12-04 13:36:54 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> (or so I think)
2023-12-04 13:36:58 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'll go ahead and close ours 
2023-12-04 13:37:03 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I haven't stumbled on that one before. Seeing this was filed against f37, I'd expect it to be fixed by now.
2023-12-04 13:37:14 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> might want to verify it's not an issue
2023-12-04 13:37:20 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> before closing
2023-12-04 13:37:23 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> It will be closed soon anyway as EOL.
2023-12-04 13:37:27 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> ah
2023-12-04 13:38:26 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> just looking at this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2245251
2023-12-04 13:38:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I know the sbml community, so if they're still using 2to3 I can ping them about this
2023-12-04 13:39:18 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> SHouldn't 2to3 be a one off thing for porting from, eh, 2 to 3?
2023-12-04 13:39:45 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh, but upstreams that are still trying to support py2 often write their code in py2 and then use 2to3 to also support py3
2023-12-04 13:40:07 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I don't see 2to3 in the code in the repo now, so this looks like it's fixed: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Asbmlteam%2Flibsbml%202to3&type=code
2023-12-04 13:40:08 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I see. old skool.
2023-12-04 13:40:15 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> we just need to update the package to the latest release
2023-12-04 13:40:30 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but I don't see a new release bug, so may be release monitoring isn't set up
2023-12-04 13:40:51 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I can take a look and submit a PR.
2023-12-04 13:41:08 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> it's disabled, so we need to ask one of the admins: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libsbml
2023-12-04 13:41:35 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Zbigniew - don't ask me to pronounce it
2023-12-04 13:42:33 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> :)
2023-12-04 13:42:37 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I pinged them in -devel
2023-12-04 13:43:29 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2252752 in the meantime
2023-12-04 13:43:58 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> back to other packages
2023-12-04 13:44:02 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> no new FTBFS bugs from the looks of it
2023-12-04 13:44:14 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but if you have the time, please do look into the existing ones and fix them
2023-12-04 13:44:56 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I had a look yesterday at some of them. It seems more like a transient issue with some arch specific builders.
2023-12-04 13:45:36 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> a lot say last successful build was over a year ago, how often do they rebuild
2023-12-04 13:45:40 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I had a look yesterday at some of ~~them~~ mine. It seems more like a transient issue with some arch specific builders.
2023-12-04 13:45:44 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> oh lol
2023-12-04 13:45:55 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> oh lol --- nvm
2023-12-04 13:45:56 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I had a look yesterday at some of ~them~ mine. It seems more like a transient issue with some arch specific builders.
2023-12-04 13:46:05 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I had a look yesterday at some of mine. It seems more like a transient issue with some arch specific builders.
2023-12-04 13:46:18 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> depends on the Fedora release
2023-12-04 13:46:37 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> f37 etc. aren't rebuilt very often, unless we're pushing a new version etc
2023-12-04 13:47:33 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> maybe still transient too then
2023-12-04 13:47:38 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I heard elsewhere that there's an issue with the dashboard atm. Not sure if that's still the case. I'll poke and ask around. But if the information is not reliable, we shouldn't work off it.
2023-12-04 13:48:03 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> uh, that'll be unfortunate, the dashboard is quite useful
2023-12-04 13:48:28 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I do have a saved search on bugzilla that we can use too: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=NeuroFedora%20bugs&sharer_id=270916
2023-12-04 13:48:39 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I'll post an update here, once I know.
2023-12-04 13:48:42 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but it doesn't show koschei info, of course---will show FTBFS bugs if they've been filed
2023-12-04 13:50:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> cool, packages are in good shape
2023-12-04 13:50:47 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Packages in good shapre
2023-12-04 13:50:53 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> s/shapre/shape/
2023-12-04 13:51:18 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Open package reviews check
2023-12-04 13:51:34 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info All neuro-sig new package review should block our review tracker so that all sig members are notified: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
2023-12-04 13:52:10 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> if you see the packages that "block" this main bug, you'll see there are
2023-12-04 13:52:17 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info 2 new reviews, 2 already assigned
2023-12-04 13:53:00 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2250532 -> python package looking for review
2023-12-04 13:53:09 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I'll wait until the end of the week for some progress on omega-h before pinging the reviewer.
2023-12-04 13:53:29 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> pyuca still waiting on legal? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2242026
2023-12-04 13:54:06 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Yeah. Pretty much. But there's been a small update on the Unicode license. 🤞
2023-12-04 13:54:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Cool, I guess you have a couple of months before this becomes urgent (based on  your comment)?
2023-12-04 13:54:47 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> maybe worth pinging in the new year
2023-12-04 13:55:15 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Yeah, I'll stay on top of it, increasing pressure the close we get to F40.
2023-12-04 13:55:26 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Yeah, I'll stay on top of it, increasing pressure the closer we get to F40.
2023-12-04 13:56:13 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic F40/rawhide comp neuro ISO compose check
2023-12-04 13:56:16 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
2023-12-04 13:56:36 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info All green ticks means all chugging along fine ✅
2023-12-04 13:56:45 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Neuroscience query of the week
2023-12-04 13:57:08 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Not neuro, but came across this which looks interesting:
2023-12-04 13:57:25 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> https://www.phind.com/
2023-12-04 13:57:55 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Also of interest:
2023-12-04 13:57:56 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-03619-w
2023-12-04 13:58:24 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> the idea is that it's not just electrical synapses that carry information between neurons (which is sort of known, but these studies specifically look at how else it can happen)
2023-12-04 13:59:14 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Is that a meta search engine or some AI stuff?
2023-12-04 13:59:23 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> it's chatGPTish
2023-12-04 13:59:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but trained specifically for programming related queries from the looks of it
2023-12-04 13:59:48 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> thought so :-\
2023-12-04 13:59:48 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> and it gives references, which chatgpt does not 
2023-12-04 13:59:54 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> (at least the free version does not)
2023-12-04 14:00:03 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> looks to have unlimited queries using its model vs gpt4
2023-12-04 14:00:07 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> which is neat
2023-12-04 14:00:15 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh
2023-12-04 14:00:32 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> 🕑️
2023-12-04 14:00:34 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> for scientific literature, this is quite neat: https://elicit.com/?workflow=table-of-papers
2023-12-04 14:00:39 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Next meeting
2023-12-04 14:01:06 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Jan 18th I guess?
2023-12-04 14:01:21 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'm away from the 16th of December, and I don't think we'll have one on 1st of Jan :)
2023-12-04 14:01:32 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'll set up fedocal etc.
2023-12-04 14:01:42 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2023-12-04 14:01:56 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Anything else (which can't be discussed after I close the meeting?)?
2023-12-04 14:01:57 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> 18th? That's a Thursday. 8th you meant, I guess.
2023-12-04 14:02:14 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> wait, am I looking at the wrong month?
2023-12-04 14:02:19 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> it'll be 15th, since 1st Jan is a monday
2023-12-04 14:02:32 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> lol so was I
2023-12-04 14:02:35 <@nerdsville:fedora.im> I was in December
2023-12-04 14:02:41 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> All right, the 15th it is.
2023-12-04 14:02:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Could do 8th too, if folks will be available and have time etc.?
2023-12-04 14:03:02 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh, let's do 15th then
2023-12-04 14:03:04 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Both would work for me thus far.
2023-12-04 14:03:15 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> ok, closing the meeting, and let's keep discussing other bits 
2023-12-04 14:03:16 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !endmeeting