15:01:22 #startmeeting NeuroFedora 2019-09-26 15:01:22 Meeting started Thu Sep 26 15:01:22 2019 UTC. 15:01:22 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:01:22 The chair is MeWjOr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:22 The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora_2019-09-26' 15:01:31 #meetingname neuro-fedora 15:01:31 The meeting name has been set to 'neuro-fedora' 15:01:40 LoKoMurdok++ MeWjOr++ 15:01:57 #chair LoKoMurdoK bt0 FranciscoD zbyszek 15:01:57 Current chairs: FranciscoD LoKoMurdoK MeWjOr bt0 zbyszek 15:02:06 Did I miss anyone? 15:02:26 no 15:02:27 #meetingname neurofedora 15:02:27 The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora' 15:02:33 My FAS username is "major"... That's why '++' is not working 15:02:47 #topic Agenda Summary 15:02:52 MeWjOr: ^ meetbot knows us as "neurofedora" 15:02:55 major++ 15:02:59 Ahh.. 15:03:08 #chair mhough 15:03:08 Current chairs: FranciscoD LoKoMurdoK MeWjOr bt0 mhough zbyszek 15:03:16 #info https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/neuro-sig@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/NAVG547HCGV5OBNH6K44BZKIMLT6EFW5/ 15:03:25 #info Introductions and roll call 15:03:28 blackfile its busy! (work work work) 15:03:38 #info Tasks from last meeting 15:03:48 #info Pagure tickets 15:03:53 #info Bugs 15:04:01 #info Neuroscience query of the week 15:04:05 #info Open floor 15:04:24 Let's begin with the first and the most important topic 15:04:26 #topic Introductions and roll call 15:04:48 .fasinfo major 15:04:49 MeWjOr: User: major, Name: Aniket Pradhan, email: aniketpradhan1999@gmail.com, Creation: 2019-02-09, IRC Nick: MeWjOr, major_, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 15:04:52 MeWjOr: Approved Groups: neuro-sig fedorabugs packager wikiedit cla_done cla_fpca 15:05:07 .fasinfo bt0dotninja 15:05:08 bt0: User: bt0dotninja, Name: Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez, email: hotgalan@gmail.com, Creation: 2016-07-25, IRC Nick: bt0, Timezone: America/Mexico_City, Locale: en, GPG key ID: E74B5808, Status: active 15:05:11 bt0: Approved Groups: neuro-sig fedorabugs packager +advocates @commops +summer-coding +ask-fedora mindshare +fedora-join @fedora-mx ambassadors dotnet-team marketing cla_done cla_fpca 15:05:12 .fasinfo ankursinha 15:05:13 newcomers? :) 15:05:14 FranciscoD: User: ankursinha, Name: Ankur Sinha, email: sanjay.ankur@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-05-28, IRC Nick: FranciscoD, Timezone: Europe/London, Locale: en_GB, GPG key ID: E629112D, Status: active 15:05:17 FranciscoD: Approved Groups: +packager robotics-sig @ask-fedora scitech @neuro-sig @fedora-join cla_fedora cla_done fedorabugs @freemedia @gitfedora-tour cla_fpca @gitfpaste +qa 15:05:18 .fasinfo lbazan 15:05:21 .fasinfo zbyszek 15:05:23 LoKoMurdoK: User: lbazan, Name: Luis Enrique Bazán De León, email: bazanluis20@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-04-19, IRC Nick: LoKoMurdoK, Timezone: America/Panama, Locale: es, GPG key ID: 50ED87E8, Status: active 15:05:26 LoKoMurdoK: Unapproved Groups: python-sig 15:05:29 LoKoMurdoK: Approved Groups: +neuro-sig +packager icaroproject @fedora-py cvsl10n bzrpython-fedora sysadmin-logs @fedora-pa sysadmin-noc bodhiadmin fedorabugs cla_fedora cla_done cla_fpca sysadmin campusambassadors gitfas triagers @fedora-mx +ambassadors @fedora-ec @fedora-ar @fudcon @fedora-cl 15:05:32 zbyszek: User: zbyszek, Name: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek, email: zbyszek@in.waw.pl, Creation: 2010-03-12, IRC Nick: zbyszek, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, GPG key ID: CFEB557E, Status: active 15:05:35 zbyszek: Approved Groups: python-packagers-sig python-sig rust-sig +neuro-sig +fedorabugs cla_fpca cla_done cla_fedora +packager provenpackager gitinitscripts 15:05:41 LoKoMurdoK: we have fangq apply to the neuro-sig, but I'm not sure if they're here 15:05:56 I did e-mail them about their request, had CC'd the neuro-sig ML 15:06:02 .fas lbazan 15:06:03 LoKoMurdoK: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' 15:06:29 FranciscoD: ok 15:06:50 Moving onto the next topic... 15:07:03 #topic Tasks from last meeting on 2019-09-12 15:07:17 wow cool! That's iso2mesh developer 15:07:27 fangq 15:07:36 #info Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2019-09-19/neurofedora.2019-09-19-15.00.html 15:07:52 .fas 15:07:52 #info FranciscoD to close #274 on Pagure : Pending 15:07:52 mhough: (fas ) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match. 15:08:20 pagure.issue.edit -- ankursinha edited the close_status and status fields of ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#274 https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/274 15:08:22 mhough: You have to add your username after that as well. 15:08:29 .fas mhough 15:08:30 MeWjOr: adamhough '' - mhough 'Morgan Hough' 15:08:33 .fas mhough 15:08:34 #info Closed #274 now 15:08:34 mhough: adamhough '' - mhough 'Morgan Hough' 15:08:36 mhough++ 15:08:37 LoKoMurdoK: Karma for mhough changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:08:50 FranciscoD: Nice.. :P 15:08:59 #info FranciscoD add zotero and Jabref to docs : Done 15:09:21 #info FranciscoD file ticket with infra requesting fedorapeople space to host our test lab image 15:09:24 mhough: ah, are you sure they're the developer? They only maintain 3 font packages in Fedora: https://src.fedoraproject.org/user/fangq/projects 15:09:30 (let's discuss that in open floor) 15:09:38 MeWjOr: that's also done :) 15:09:52 Ohh.. forgot to append the status 15:09:55 #undo 15:09:55 Removing item from minutes: INFO by MeWjOr at 15:09:21 : FranciscoD file ticket with infra requesting fedorapeople space to host our test lab image 15:09:59 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1741624 offtopic (I finish it the weekend) 15:10:01 #info FranciscoD file ticket with infra requesting fedorapeople space to host our test lab image : Done 15:10:03 No not sure but that is his github username and we have been talking recently 15:10:21 Maybe just coincidence 15:10:30 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8225 -> we have /project/neuro-sig now on fedorapeople at https://fedorapeople.org/groups/neuro-sig/ 15:10:57 #info FranciscoD poke/ping comps PR in 2 weeks. One week left. 15:11:08 MeWjOr: comps PR was merged 15:11:15 #undo 15:11:15 Removing item from minutes: INFO by MeWjOr at 15:10:57 : FranciscoD poke/ping comps PR in 2 weeks. One week left. 15:11:20 sorry :P 15:11:33 #info FranciscoD poke/ping comps PR in 2 weeks. : Done 15:11:37 Lol 15:11:50 What about the OSB report? 15:12:01 Have you finished it? 15:12:14 It's a WIP. I have a seminar to present next Friday about the OSB so, it'll be done by then 15:12:28 Great. Thanks for the update 15:12:30 #info FranciscoD write OSB workshop event report : Pending 15:12:37 Phew... A busy week for FranciscoD 15:12:42 :P 15:12:44 #info Everyone try: `sudo dnf groupinstall --with-optional "Neuron Modelling Simulators" --skip-broken` 15:12:57 MeWjOr: only getting busier :P 15:13:04 ;) 15:13:11 Another note: 15:13:28 #info fedorapeople access to neuro-sig space is given to those in the neuro-sig FAS group only 15:13:53 #info So you must be a packager also to use this space (since that is a requirement of the neuro-sig FAS group) 15:14:09 (I.e., it is not based on the pagure neuro-sig group, it is based on the FAS one) 15:15:07 Next topic 15:15:12 MeWjOr: sorry---thought it was better to mention it now when the ticket was brought up, please proceed :) 15:15:33 No worries... It's important information.. ;) 15:15:42 #Topic Pagure tickets 15:15:42 another note: neurosig badge (What does it take to finish it?) 15:16:04 LoKoMurdoK: that'll come up in the pagure tickets I expect 15:16:06 LoKoMurdoK let's discuss that in a moment 15:16:08 Yes 15:16:27 #info Pagure tickets marked for this meeting: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting 15:16:51 #info Issue #294: Add modelling groups to the docs - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/294 15:17:11 The neuro modelling group was approved in the last week, however a few package (s) have some issues. 15:17:34 A bug report was filed as well for `moose` 15:18:10 Ack, it's on my todo list. 15:18:57 So, should I appoint you with the task (by using the keyword #action)? 15:19:25 Not really, it's already assigned in bugzilla. 15:20:09 MeWjOr: feel free to info it, though 15:20:23 if you feel it should be in the minutes 15:20:32 The bug is not assigned yet. It's status is still set as new 15:20:54 Adding to the minutes, then 15:21:59 #info zbyszek will look into the bug with moose. 15:22:13 ++ 15:22:39 Great... Next issue we have is: 15:22:46 #info Issue #246: Policy - To support or not to support non free tools - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/246 15:22:57 I guess we should follow up onto this issue as well. 15:23:26 +1 15:23:30 While discussing about bibliography managers last week, Mendeley came into discussion as well (which is not FOSS) 15:24:09 I've thought about it a bit. I would say we only list non FOSS if no FOSS alternatives are available 15:24:29 +1 15:24:32 So, CUDA for example, is fine 15:24:48 Mendeley isn't: at least 3 alternatives: jabref, zotero, docear 15:24:54 Right... +1 15:25:05 and Mendeley is owned by Elsevier, which isn't the most Open publishing house 15:25:14 +1 15:25:32 I miss pybliographer 15:25:41 Yeh, and bibus was pretty good too 15:25:46 Both no longer maintained I'm afraid 15:26:15 I need to go, I have a conflicting (physical) meeting. Please #action me if there's something I should do, I'll look the notes later. 15:26:16 I need to check if Jabref is functional as a Fedora package too---I've been using the Jar upstream provides with Oracle Java (YUK) 15:26:25 sure zbyszek, thanks for coming :) 15:26:30 Is it good? 15:26:51 So, since 4 users agree with only listing the non FOSS (if no alternatives are available), I am marking it as agreed 15:27:02 mhough: yes, but it doesn't have a "cloud" and "social" features. It's very much a reference/bibliography manager with lots of features to organise your bib 15:27:05 MeWjOr: ++ 15:27:10 #agreed Only list non FOSS if no FOSS alternatives are available 15:27:21 *1 15:27:24 #action Update the issue on Pagure and close it 15:27:25 +1 15:27:29 #undo 15:27:29 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by MeWjOr at 15:27:24 : Update the issue on Pagure and close it 15:27:37 #action MeWjoR Update the issue on Pagure and close it 15:27:56 Next issue we have on the plate is: 15:28:00 haha, did you get your nick wrong there MeWjOr ? :P 15:28:16 __No__ ... :| 15:28:22 not using autocomplete? :P 15:28:46 Don't let my secrets out 15:28:50 #info Issue #274: Flock conference reports - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/274 15:29:08 The issue has been closed now. 15:29:13 Yes, next :) 15:29:18 Yes.. 15:29:25 #info Issue #250: Figure out badges rule to award badge automatically to pagure group members - NeuroFedora - waiting on Badges #678 15:29:40 Pinging LoKoMurdoK 15:30:08 As far as I last checked, the issue is being blocked by the fedora-badges issue 15:30:10 There has been progress on the fedora-badges ticket: riecatnor improved the badge: https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/678#comment-597731 15:30:18 riecatnor++ 15:30:18 FranciscoD: Karma for riecatnor changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:30:22 .thank riecatnor 15:30:22 FranciscoD thinks riecatnor is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type riecatnor++ since that is what gives them a cookie) 15:30:31 riecatnor++ for sure 15:30:35 riecatnor++ 15:31:15 riecatnor** 15:31:19 riecatnor++ 15:31:19 mhough: Karma for riecatnor changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:31:21 So, should we close the issue on fedora-badges, and resume work on this issue? 15:31:33 No, the fedora-badges issue is not complete yet 15:31:35 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/678#comment-59773 15:31:44 the badge has not been added to the webapp yet 15:32:12 LoKoMurdoK: mhough : could you folks comment on the issue to say what you think about the improved badge please? 15:32:18 that'll also ping the ticket ;) 15:32:20 So, should we ping them about the same? Or wait for some time? 15:32:30 Ohh...great 15:32:43 * FranciscoD has learned the art of pinging without really pinging 15:32:45 :P 15:32:55 ninja-style 15:33:21 FranciscoD: the badge is fine .-) 15:33:23 :-) 15:33:37 Alright, last issue for the meeting: 15:33:41 #info PR#410: Add neuro-fedora related groups and categories - fedora-comps - https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/410 15:33:47 heheh terminator badge xD 15:33:51 The PR has been merged. People can now access the neuron modelling simulators group. 15:34:01 ok 15:34:16 Now let's move onto the bugs... :P 15:34:31 #action FranciscoD add dnf groupinstall command to docs 15:35:09 #topic Open bugs 15:35:17 #info Open bugs: https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs 15:35:40 #info New bug: Broken dependencies of moose - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754997 15:36:05 #undo 15:36:05 Removing item from minutes: INFO by MeWjOr at 15:35:40 : New bug: Broken dependencies of moose - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754997 15:36:11 #info New bug: Broken dependency of moose - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754997 15:36:19 moose is a part of the new neuro comps group, and I guess should get a priority. 15:36:26 I can work in updates this weekend! 15:36:52 the moose bug is being worked on by zbyszek, 15:36:53 #action LoKoMurdoK will work on some update bugs 15:37:22 If you are working on update bugs, please change the status to "ASSIGNED" and "take" the bug---so everyone knows who is working on what 15:37:23 Great... 15:37:40 that'll ensure that we don't have two people working on the same bug XD 15:37:50 zbyszek++ 15:37:52 #info If you are working on update bugs, please change the status to "ASSIGNED" and "take" the bug---so everyone knows who is working on what 15:38:26 Next bug 15:38:40 The python-fsl* updates 15:39:06 They have been updated on src.fp.o, and are building properly.. 15:39:15 The next step is the combined bodhi push 15:39:30 I will discuss more about that in the open-floor 15:39:53 any other bugs? 15:40:22 * FranciscoD is looking 15:40:36 No, nothing urgent looking 15:40:49 Alright, moving on then... 15:40:57 #topic Neuroscience query of the week 15:41:35 Did anyone read or went through the paper shared here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/293 15:42:08 * FranciscoD is reading it, not quite done 15:42:17 MeWjOr: I think we're discussing it next week, though 15:42:30 2 weeks per papare I think we said 15:42:40 s/papare/paper/ 15:42:54 Two weeks, yes. I forgot 15:42:56 It's a very informative paper, so I would really encourage folks to read it by the way 15:43:06 it's not too "sciencey" either 15:45:25 Yes I did 15:45:33 MeWjOr: tag it next-meeting and move on for the moment? 15:45:47 Okay... 15:46:27 #info Let's go though the paper shared here, and we will discuss it in the next meeting. https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/293 15:46:46 moving on to the next topic.. 15:46:54 Cool 15:46:58 #topic Next meeting time and chair 15:47:15 any takers? :P 15:47:22 Next meeting in week? +1/-1? 15:47:26 +1 15:47:29 +1 15:48:14 How many votes do we need to reach a consensus? :P 15:49:16 Net should be > 0 15:49:17 ;) 15:49:21 Ping LoKoMurdoK mhough 15:49:25 ping bt0 15:49:40 +1 15:50:20 MeWjOr: sufficient to agree IMO 15:50:38 Lol... That's nice, then 15:50:52 Anyone who would like to char the next meeting 15:51:01 s/char/chair 15:52:20 bt0: ^? :P 15:52:23 alciregi: ^ 15:52:27 I can, if no one would like to volunteer now... 15:52:32 * FranciscoD can too 15:52:41 but I'd prefer if everyone took turns :P 15:52:53 rotating chairs: check 15:53:08 .msg zodbot chairs 15:53:20 let me do next week then 15:53:20 i will do it 15:53:23 ah, noo 15:53:25 yay 15:53:28 bt0++ 15:53:29 :) 15:53:29 :D 15:53:31 no one read that message 15:53:35 :P 15:53:45 bt0++ 15:53:56 MeWjOr: action and info that before bt0 changes their mind :P 15:54:09 #action bt0 will chair the next meeting 15:54:18 lol 15:54:28 #info we will have the next meeting on 2019-10-03 15:54:47 #undo 15:54:47 Removing item from minutes: INFO by MeWjOr at 15:54:28 : we will have the next meeting on 2019-10-03 15:54:50 pagure.git.receive -- ankursinha pushed 1 commit to neuro-sig/documentation (master) https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/documentation/tree/master 15:54:51 #info we will have the next meeting on 2019-10-03 same time 15:55:19 #action bt0 Send a meeting reminder on devel ML on Tuesday 15:55:21 pagure.issue.edit -- ankursinha edited the close_status and status fields of ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#294 https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/294 15:55:22 pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#294: "Add modelling comps group to docs" https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/294#comment-600700 15:56:02 #action bt0 setup an agenda -- head over to pagure tickets and mark the ones that need to be discussed 15:56:10 ok 15:56:26 #action bt0 Ping folks here about an hour earler. 15:56:31 pagure.issue.tag.added -- ankursinha tagged ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#250: S: On hold https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/250 15:56:32 pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#250: "Figure out badges rule to award badge automatically to pagure group members" https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/250#comment-600702 15:56:33 I guess that's it, then 15:56:41 a few minutes for open floor :) 15:56:44 next meeting in week +1 15:56:44 Moving onto the open floor 15:56:51 #topic Open floor 15:57:16 bt0: do you have an ISO of the lab image generated already by any chance? 15:57:58 when would the iso of the lab be available? 15:57:59 yeah but the live user don't need password to enter 15:58:45 sorry need password to enter to gnome 15:58:57 for F31 beta 15:59:05 bt0: oh, how do the workstation people do it without a password? 15:59:06 im looking how to fix it 15:59:18 ah, ok 15:59:37 bt0: you can just set "neuro-fedora" for the time being maybe 15:59:40 i will generate the WS to know if have the same issue 15:59:58 Sorry I had people come to my door 15:59:59 cool 16:00:07 How does one submit multiple builds onto bodhi? I wasn't able to find anything... other than `chain-build` 16:00:35 bt0: whenever you have an ISO that works---even if it needs a password, can you please upload it to the new fedorapeople and let everyone know on the mailing list 16:00:45 that way we'll at least get started with testing it 16:00:58 MeWjOr: head to https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/new 16:01:13 you cannot do it using fedpkg (or I don't know how to XD) 16:01:23 cool 16:02:00 Oh...will have to use the gui... 16:02:04 #action bt0 will upload a working lab image and mail the list 16:02:26 MeWjOr: yes, I think that's the way. There must be a script way too---I can't see the gnome-sig using the UI for their massive update list XD 16:02:45 But, one can only update only one package using the web interface, right? 16:02:58 I don't see any option to add multiple packages together... 16:03:19 MeWjOr: no, just search for the next package, it'll show the bugs and builds, select them too, next ... 16:03:40 MeWjOr: I dont think there's anything else for the logs, please endmeeting in a minute or two 16:03:45 (we're 3 minutes over) 16:04:00 Ohh..yes 16:04:08 Ending meeting 16:04:17 #endmeeting