16:02:29 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2019-10-29
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16:02:35 <FranciscoD> #meetingname neurofedora
16:02:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora'
16:02:48 <FranciscoD> #chair MeWjOr bt0 gicmo alciregi zbyszek mhough blackfile
16:02:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr alciregi blackfile bt0 gicmo mhough zbyszek
16:02:53 <blackfile> .jas blackfile
16:02:59 <alciregi> .hello2
16:03:00 <zodbot> alciregi: alciregi 'Alessio' <alciregi@gmail.com>
16:03:24 <blackfile> .fas blackfile
16:03:24 <zodbot> blackfile: blackfile 'Luis Manuel Segundo' <luis@blackfile.net>
16:03:37 <FranciscoD> #topic Today's agenda
16:03:43 <FranciscoD> #info Roll call/introductions
16:03:54 <FranciscoD> #info Pagure tickets: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
16:03:57 <mhough> .hello2
16:03:58 <zodbot> mhough: mhough 'Morgan Hough' <morgan.hough@gmail.com>
16:04:02 <FranciscoD> #info Bugs: https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs
16:04:11 <FranciscoD> #info Neuroscience query of the week.
16:04:17 <FranciscoD> #info Next meeting chair/time
16:04:22 <FranciscoD> #info Open floor
16:04:33 <FranciscoD> #topic Roll call/introductions
16:04:39 <FranciscoD> .hello2
16:04:40 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Sorry, but you don't exist
16:04:43 <FranciscoD> :(
16:04:47 <FranciscoD> .fasinfo ankursinha
16:04:49 <MeWjOr> .hello2
16:04:51 <zodbot> FranciscoD: User: ankursinha, Name: Ankur Sinha, email: sanjay.ankur@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-05-28, IRC Nick: FranciscoD, Timezone: Europe/London, Locale: en_GB, GPG key ID: E629112D, Status: active
16:04:54 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Approved Groups: provenpackager +packager robotics-sig @ask-fedora scitech @neuro-sig @fedora-join cla_fedora cla_done fedorabugs @freemedia @gitfedora-tour cla_fpca @gitfpaste +qa
16:04:56 <zodbot> MeWjOr: Sorry, but you don't exist
16:05:06 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: works if your nick matches your FAS I think
16:05:09 <MeWjOr> That's so sad... ;-;
16:05:18 <MeWjOr> .fasinfo major
16:05:20 <zodbot> MeWjOr: User: major, Name: Aniket Pradhan, email: aniketpradhan1999@gmail.com, Creation: 2019-02-09, IRC Nick: MeWjOr, major_, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
16:05:23 <zodbot> MeWjOr: Approved Groups: qa neuro-sig fedorabugs packager wikiedit cla_done cla_fpca
16:05:52 <MeWjOr> Too bad someone already has the user major registered on the IRC
16:05:57 <FranciscoD> Well, quick announcement!
16:06:03 <FranciscoD> #info F31 has been released: https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-31/
16:06:10 <FranciscoD> major++
16:06:14 <MeWjOr> :party: Yay
16:06:18 <FranciscoD> cookies not been reset yet :(
16:06:19 <mhough> Yes!
16:06:34 <FranciscoD> Please remember to update as soon as you install---0 day updates galore!
16:06:42 <FranciscoD> And:
16:06:47 <FranciscoD> #info Fedora 31 common bugs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F31_bugs
16:06:54 <bt0> .fasinfo bt0dotninja
16:06:55 <zodbot> bt0: User: bt0dotninja, Name: Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez, email: hotgalan@gmail.com, Creation: 2016-07-25, IRC Nick: bt0, Timezone: America/Mexico_City, Locale: en, GPG key ID: E74B5808, Status: active
16:06:57 <mhough> As soon as I get home
16:06:58 <zodbot> bt0: Approved Groups: neuro-sig fedorabugs packager +advocates @commops +summer-coding +ask-fedora mindshare +fedora-join @fedora-mx ambassadors dotnet-team marketing cla_done cla_fpca
16:06:59 <bt0> hi
16:07:04 <FranciscoD> #info Torrents: https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
16:07:18 <FranciscoD> Please help seed, if you have the bandwidth too :)
16:07:31 <FranciscoD> OK, let's move on to tickets then :)
16:07:33 <FranciscoD> #info Pagure tickets
16:07:44 <MeWjOr> I can seed it from my uni's labs... those guys will never know... :P
16:07:55 <FranciscoD> #info Pagure tickets: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
16:08:02 <mhough> :)
16:08:26 <FranciscoD> #info Issue #308: Create new Comp Neuro image after F31 release - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/308
16:08:37 <FranciscoD> We just have to regenerate the ISO and upload it
16:08:54 <FranciscoD> and once that is done, we need to update our docs to mention the ISO:
16:09:01 <FranciscoD> #info Issue #309: Update documentation to list the Comp Neuro ISO - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/309
16:09:14 <FranciscoD> WIll anyone have the time this evening to regenerate and re-upload the ISO?
16:09:32 <MeWjOr> I can do it
16:09:42 <mhough> I have used it on multiple systems but I don't know what that takes
16:10:12 <FranciscoD> mhough: generation? The instructions are here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/neuro-scripts
16:10:19 <MeWjOr> I had generated the previous ISO... I hope this one will be a quick one then
16:10:20 <mhough> thanks
16:10:30 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: ok, great, can you please assign the ticket to yourself?
16:10:40 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr work on #308
16:10:43 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.assigned.added -- major assigned ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#308 to major https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/308
16:10:45 <mhough> fedora is trending on reddit:)
16:10:45 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.assigned.added -- major assigned ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#309 to major https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/309
16:10:57 <FranciscoD> if you can ping me when it's done, MeWjOr , I'll update the docs
16:11:11 <FranciscoD> or you can both of them :P
16:11:38 <MeWjOr> Quick question though... We don't need to have F31 -- the new release to generate the ISO for F31?
16:12:09 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: no, I wouldn't think so---but let me know if that's the case, I'm on F31 already
16:12:14 <MeWjOr> I am still on the beta one, and I don't plan on updating this week
16:12:30 <MeWjOr> already... Nice..
16:12:40 <MeWjOr> Sure, I'll try and then let you all know
16:12:50 <mhough> I can do it in parallel
16:13:16 <FranciscoD> I'm sure it uses the repos in a mock chroot type thing, so what your system has shouldn't affect the image creation process
16:13:23 <mhough> yeah
16:14:00 <MeWjOr> If it's in mock, then no issues..
16:14:09 <FranciscoD> #info Issue #301: NeuroFedora brochure - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/301
16:14:31 <FranciscoD> #info Issue #661: Request for help with designing a Neuro Fedora brochure - https://pagure.io/design/issue/661 has been filed and is pending
16:14:47 <FranciscoD> I guess we leave that as is and ping design next week?
16:15:10 <MeWjOr> Yep...
16:15:26 <FranciscoD> #info Issue #678: You're a member of the Neuro Fedora SIG - https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/678 - same here, I pinged the ticket yesterday
16:15:43 <FranciscoD> Still waiting on the design approval..
16:15:49 <FranciscoD> Not much we can do here either
16:15:58 <MeWjOr> Although I hope that some design is finalized before FOSDEM... So that we can give out brochures as well
16:16:07 <MeWjOr> if possible
16:16:14 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: wasn't there a ticket for FOSSDEM too?
16:16:29 <MeWjOr> there is
16:16:29 <FranciscoD> found it
16:16:39 <FranciscoD> #info Issue #307: NeuroFedora at FOSDEM 2020. - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/307
16:16:49 <FranciscoD> So a few of us can get to FOSDEM, which is awesome
16:16:53 <MeWjOr> https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/307
16:17:07 <FranciscoD> #info MeWjOr has volunteered to be the NeuroFedora event "owner"
16:17:15 <MeWjOr> :D
16:17:30 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: what's the plan, what do we need to do? :)
16:17:43 * FranciscoD hands the sacred speaking log thing to MeWjOr
16:18:25 <MeWjOr> So.... we will be submitting a regular (20 - 40 minute) talk there
16:18:39 <MeWjOr> And we need all these things:
16:18:41 <MeWjOr> Abstract
16:18:41 <MeWjOr> Session type (Lecture or Lightning Talk)
16:18:41 <MeWjOr> Session length (20-40 min, 10 min for a lightning talk)
16:18:41 <MeWjOr> Expected prior knowledge / intended audience
16:18:43 <MeWjOr> Speaker bio
16:18:46 <MeWjOr> Links to code / slides / material for the talk (optional)
16:18:48 <MeWjOr> Links to previous talks by the speaker
16:19:09 <FranciscoD> OK. Our abstract can be similar to the one we used for CNS. I can rewrite it for FOSDEM
16:19:15 <MeWjOr> I just need some material to speak upon, and I can do the rest
16:19:23 <FranciscoD> 40 minutes OK with you MeWjOr ?
16:19:41 <FranciscoD> I have a few sets of slides that you can take and tweak
16:20:16 <FranciscoD> Link to code etc. will be the ISO and documentation and so on, so that's sorted
16:20:21 <MeWjOr> I am not sure... it would depend upon the material... Although I can speak for longer durations
16:20:48 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: take a look here: https://pagure.io/projects/neuro-sig/%2A the Flock and OSB slides are both there
16:21:05 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: when's the deadline for submissions?
16:21:13 <MeWjOr> 1st December
16:21:45 <MeWjOr> There's also a booth submission going on... No one from the Fedora project have sent out a proposal yet...
16:22:00 <mhough> What's that?
16:22:05 <MeWjOr> and the deadline for the booth submission is 1st November
16:22:06 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: OK, how about you go through the slides this week and see what you think? I'll work on the abstract in the meantime?
16:22:30 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: ugh, the booth submission is a general Fedora thing. If no one takes the initiative, it won't happen :/
16:22:56 <MeWjOr> Yeah..sure.. I can look up the slides
16:23:36 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: for the booth, I'd be happier if someone took the lead and you helped. That way you'll learn how things go
16:23:45 <FranciscoD> It requires a bit of conference experience
16:24:19 <MeWjOr> That's what I was going for... I need some XP..
16:24:39 <FranciscoD> maybe ping the thread again saying you're happy to help if someone can take the lead?
16:24:50 <MeWjOr> ohh...sure will
16:25:16 <FranciscoD> Also check the mindshare tickets and their ML---that e-mail was cross-posted to 3 or 4 lists, so if someone forgets to "reply to all", all lists wont receive the next set of replies
16:25:34 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr go through current slide sets
16:25:56 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD tweak abstract draft for FOSDEM
16:26:16 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr ping FOSDEM booth thread asking for someone to take the lead so they can help
16:26:29 <FranciscoD> #info FOSDEM deadline for NeuroFedora is 1 Dec
16:26:40 <FranciscoD> #info FOSDEM deadline for booth is 1 Nov
16:26:55 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.tag.added -- ankursinha tagged ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#307: S: Next meeting https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/307
16:26:56 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.tag.removed -- ankursinha removed the S: Needs review tags from ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#307 https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/307
16:27:45 <FranciscoD> I think that's all the tickets---anyone have another ticket to be reviewed?
16:28:31 <FranciscoD> #topic NeuroFedora bugs: https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs
16:28:41 <FranciscoD> #info https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs -> our pet bugs
16:29:14 <FranciscoD> Look pretty good actually
16:29:31 <FranciscoD> I'll update gdcm in a bit---it'll require rebuilding deps etc since there's a soname bump there
16:29:38 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD will take care of gdcm and related updates
16:30:02 <FranciscoD> For niliearn: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1763771 , I was thinking we'd wait for a stable release before updating?
16:30:08 <FranciscoD> Thoughts?
16:31:00 <MeWjOr> Alpha version should not be packaged in my opinion...
16:31:21 <mhough> I am curious why they released it
16:31:51 <mhough> I mean I saw the announcement
16:31:54 <FranciscoD> They do sometimes, for early adopters
16:32:14 <MeWjOr> Shouldn't they use pre-releases for that
16:32:14 <FranciscoD> I don't use it myself, so I'm wary of pushing the update without knowing how much has changed
16:32:22 <mhough> Yeah I am just reading their issue discussion
16:32:25 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: it is a pre-release I guess
16:32:49 <FranciscoD> 0.6.0a0, a = alpha (I'd think)
16:33:25 <MeWjOr> Github offers a pre-release... it show's the pre-releases separately
16:33:37 <MeWjOr> 'a' is alpha, yes
16:33:46 <mhough> there is a switch between having demo files hosted on OSF vs AWS I think but certainly no reason to rush it out
16:35:40 <FranciscoD> OK, let's wait for a stable release then
16:35:53 <FranciscoD> #info We'll wait for a stable nilearn release before updating it in Fedora
16:36:06 <FranciscoD> How about new packages? Anyone working on anything?
16:36:21 <FranciscoD> #info graph-tool is almost ready: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1763597
16:36:41 <FranciscoD> #info fangq added a host of packages, they've also been added to docs now
16:36:45 <FranciscoD> fangq++
16:36:45 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Karma for fangq changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
16:36:47 <mhough> I need to send you mricron spec file and MNE-CPP
16:37:17 <FranciscoD> mhough: you can submit them for review when ready and we can work on them there (you're in the packager group now)
16:37:25 <mhough> ok
16:37:45 <FranciscoD> Please assign the review ticket to neuro-sig, and me when you file it
16:37:52 <FranciscoD> that way we'll get the notification
16:37:58 <mhough> I have DART for robotics as well
16:38:11 <FranciscoD> Package away :D
16:38:16 <major_> Ohh...I'm back... Had to get rid of this perky VPN
16:38:24 <FranciscoD> I've got the last few comp neuro bits to package---iv and all that
16:38:29 <FranciscoD> will work on them when I find some cycles
16:38:36 <mhough> ooh iv would be great
16:38:44 <FranciscoD> major_: arent you working on some package too?
16:38:47 * FranciscoD cant remember which one
16:39:09 <major_> napari
16:39:23 <fm-neuro> pagure.git.receive -- fangq pushed 1 commit to neuro-sig/documentation (master) https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/documentation/tree/master
16:39:24 <mhough> I have problems with some python packages but its always while building documentation
16:39:48 <FranciscoD> mhough: yeh, docs sometimes try to download things
16:39:56 <major_> One of napari's dependency is not packaged for Fedora... I will have to package that up first
16:40:11 <FranciscoD> if you can get them to build without the docs, feel free to submit the review, and we can work on docs there if they're doable
16:40:19 <FranciscoD> major_: ugh, which one? simple python package, I hope?
16:40:28 <mhough> Ahh ok that would be great
16:40:42 <mhough> arviz and pymc3
16:40:54 <major_> "pre-commit"...
16:41:15 <FranciscoD> major_: sounds good
16:41:44 <FranciscoD> major_: https://pypi.org/project/pre-commit/ ?
16:41:48 <major_> Yeah... pre-commit is easy to package as well
16:41:55 <FranciscoD> OK, great
16:41:55 <major_> Yes...
16:42:03 <FranciscoD> Just a reminder:
16:42:09 <FranciscoD> #info a Python spec template is here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/blob/master/f/spec-templates/python.spec
16:42:13 <mhough> pre-commit would be great too
16:42:21 <FranciscoD> SHould work for most simple setuptools packages
16:43:51 <FranciscoD> That's quite good then, new packages ticking along too :)
16:44:03 <FranciscoD> Thats the end of the bug list for this week
16:44:07 <FranciscoD> #topic Chair for next week
16:44:28 <FranciscoD> gicmo: blackfile alciregi bt0 major_ mhough : any takers to run the next meeting? :)
16:45:11 <major_> I have a busy week this time... So, not me... :(
16:46:20 <FranciscoD> hrm, no worries
16:46:29 <FranciscoD> I can do it again if everyone else is busy
16:46:33 <gicmo> when is the next one?
16:46:36 <gicmo> next week?
16:46:43 <FranciscoD> gicmo: next week, same time, yes :)
16:46:45 <major_> Yep..
16:47:20 * FranciscoD imagines gicmo flipping through their diary
16:47:29 <gicmo> true true
16:47:32 <gicmo> should work (-:
16:47:52 <FranciscoD> ah, yay
16:48:18 <gicmo> never done that before, but how hard can it be :`
16:48:21 <gicmo> :P
16:48:32 <FranciscoD> #info gicmo chair next week's meeting
16:48:47 <FranciscoD> gicmo: it's really easy, probably the easiest thing we do in NeuroFedora XD
16:49:01 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.new -- major opened a new ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#310: "Package pre-commit: A framework for managing and maintaining multi-language pre-commit hooks." https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/310
16:49:08 <FranciscoD> you have to send out a reminder on Friday or Monday, for which you can copy paste the previous one
16:49:08 <gicmo> so even *I* should be able to do it
16:49:18 <FranciscoD> and then follow the agenda with meetbot commands
16:49:26 <gicmo> roger roger
16:49:27 <FranciscoD> gicmo: you'll certainly be able to do it :)
16:49:45 <FranciscoD> #topic Neuroscience of the week
16:49:50 <major_> gicmo: I will post a cheat sheet somewhere.. It contains the basic template of how our meetings go
16:50:00 <gicmo> cool thanks
16:50:05 <FranciscoD> Any one run into any fun podcasts/blogs posts etc this wee?
16:50:08 <FranciscoD> s/wee/week/
16:50:17 <FranciscoD> I've been busy, not had the chance to look through things :(
16:51:06 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.assigned.added -- major assigned ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#310 to major https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/310
16:51:13 <major_> Not me...
16:51:41 <FranciscoD> We can skip it this time, I'll find something for next week and send it around
16:52:00 <FranciscoD> I'd sent this around: https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1007296 "Ten simple rules for helping newcomers become contributors to open projects"
16:52:04 <FranciscoD> it's a good short read
16:52:12 <mhough> I listened to the Mitchell's book innate
16:52:42 <FranciscoD> mhough: ah, the book? Did it do justice to the podcast?
16:53:32 <mhough> The book is a good intro into the biology behind the systems neuroscience of behavioral genetics
16:54:20 <FranciscoD> mhough: please info that for the logs maybe---a good takeaway for us :)
16:54:31 <mhough> It is very relevant to a talk I gave last week on the Child Mind Institute Healthy Brain Network dataset
16:55:59 <mhough> #info Innate: a good intro into the biology behind the systems neuroscience of behavioral genetics
16:56:53 <mhough> Since the CMI HBN data is released under a CC license, I am really pushing this dataset and the tools to process it
16:57:24 <FranciscoD> Nice. We're seeing more and more data being published openly too
16:57:48 <FranciscoD> We have ~3 minutes for open floor
16:57:55 <FranciscoD> #topic Open Floor
16:58:01 * FranciscoD has nothing XD
16:58:16 <FranciscoD> Oh, I do actually
16:58:16 * major_ is building the iso
16:58:27 <FranciscoD> #info Our pre-print is out: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/810846v1
16:58:45 <mhough> Awesome!
16:58:47 <major_> It's "stuck" at Running Transaction for over 4-5 minutes..
16:58:52 <FranciscoD> if you do read it, let me know what you think XD
16:58:56 <major_> FranciscoD++
16:59:03 <FranciscoD> major_: hold on, should be doing things hopefully
16:59:32 <major_> holding on... :P I guess it's because there are over 1900+ packages..
16:59:41 <mhough> Maybe:)
16:59:51 <FranciscoD> Yeh
17:00:04 <FranciscoD> Right, our hour is up
17:00:07 <FranciscoD> Let's close
17:00:10 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting