16:02:29 #startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2019-10-29 16:02:29 Meeting started Tue Oct 29 16:02:29 2019 UTC. 16:02:29 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:02:29 The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:02:29 The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora_-_2019-10-29' 16:02:35 #meetingname neurofedora 16:02:35 The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora' 16:02:48 #chair MeWjOr bt0 gicmo alciregi zbyszek mhough blackfile 16:02:48 Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr alciregi blackfile bt0 gicmo mhough zbyszek 16:02:53 .jas blackfile 16:02:59 .hello2 16:03:00 alciregi: alciregi 'Alessio' 16:03:24 .fas blackfile 16:03:24 blackfile: blackfile 'Luis Manuel Segundo' 16:03:37 #topic Today's agenda 16:03:43 #info Roll call/introductions 16:03:54 #info Pagure tickets: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting 16:03:57 .hello2 16:03:58 mhough: mhough 'Morgan Hough' 16:04:02 #info Bugs: https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs 16:04:11 #info Neuroscience query of the week. 16:04:17 #info Next meeting chair/time 16:04:22 #info Open floor 16:04:33 #topic Roll call/introductions 16:04:39 .hello2 16:04:40 FranciscoD: Sorry, but you don't exist 16:04:43 :( 16:04:47 .fasinfo ankursinha 16:04:49 .hello2 16:04:51 FranciscoD: User: ankursinha, Name: Ankur Sinha, email: sanjay.ankur@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-05-28, IRC Nick: FranciscoD, Timezone: Europe/London, Locale: en_GB, GPG key ID: E629112D, Status: active 16:04:54 FranciscoD: Approved Groups: provenpackager +packager robotics-sig @ask-fedora scitech @neuro-sig @fedora-join cla_fedora cla_done fedorabugs @freemedia @gitfedora-tour cla_fpca @gitfpaste +qa 16:04:56 MeWjOr: Sorry, but you don't exist 16:05:06 MeWjOr: works if your nick matches your FAS I think 16:05:09 That's so sad... ;-; 16:05:18 .fasinfo major 16:05:20 MeWjOr: User: major, Name: Aniket Pradhan, email: aniketpradhan1999@gmail.com, Creation: 2019-02-09, IRC Nick: MeWjOr, major_, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 16:05:23 MeWjOr: Approved Groups: qa neuro-sig fedorabugs packager wikiedit cla_done cla_fpca 16:05:52 Too bad someone already has the user major registered on the IRC 16:05:57 Well, quick announcement! 16:06:03 #info F31 has been released: https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-31/ 16:06:10 major++ 16:06:14 :party: Yay 16:06:18 cookies not been reset yet :( 16:06:19 Yes! 16:06:34 Please remember to update as soon as you install---0 day updates galore! 16:06:42 And: 16:06:47 #info Fedora 31 common bugs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F31_bugs 16:06:54 .fasinfo bt0dotninja 16:06:55 bt0: User: bt0dotninja, Name: Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez, email: hotgalan@gmail.com, Creation: 2016-07-25, IRC Nick: bt0, Timezone: America/Mexico_City, Locale: en, GPG key ID: E74B5808, Status: active 16:06:57 As soon as I get home 16:06:58 bt0: Approved Groups: neuro-sig fedorabugs packager +advocates @commops +summer-coding +ask-fedora mindshare +fedora-join @fedora-mx ambassadors dotnet-team marketing cla_done cla_fpca 16:06:59 hi 16:07:04 #info Torrents: https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ 16:07:18 Please help seed, if you have the bandwidth too :) 16:07:31 OK, let's move on to tickets then :) 16:07:33 #info Pagure tickets 16:07:44 I can seed it from my uni's labs... those guys will never know... :P 16:07:55 #info Pagure tickets: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting 16:08:02 :) 16:08:26 #info Issue #308: Create new Comp Neuro image after F31 release - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/308 16:08:37 We just have to regenerate the ISO and upload it 16:08:54 and once that is done, we need to update our docs to mention the ISO: 16:09:01 #info Issue #309: Update documentation to list the Comp Neuro ISO - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/309 16:09:14 WIll anyone have the time this evening to regenerate and re-upload the ISO? 16:09:32 I can do it 16:09:42 I have used it on multiple systems but I don't know what that takes 16:10:12 mhough: generation? The instructions are here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/neuro-scripts 16:10:19 I had generated the previous ISO... I hope this one will be a quick one then 16:10:20 thanks 16:10:30 MeWjOr: ok, great, can you please assign the ticket to yourself? 16:10:40 #action MeWjOr work on #308 16:10:43 pagure.issue.assigned.added -- major assigned ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#308 to major https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/308 16:10:45 fedora is trending on reddit:) 16:10:45 pagure.issue.assigned.added -- major assigned ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#309 to major https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/309 16:10:57 if you can ping me when it's done, MeWjOr , I'll update the docs 16:11:11 or you can both of them :P 16:11:38 Quick question though... We don't need to have F31 -- the new release to generate the ISO for F31? 16:12:09 MeWjOr: no, I wouldn't think so---but let me know if that's the case, I'm on F31 already 16:12:14 I am still on the beta one, and I don't plan on updating this week 16:12:30 already... Nice.. 16:12:40 Sure, I'll try and then let you all know 16:12:50 I can do it in parallel 16:13:16 I'm sure it uses the repos in a mock chroot type thing, so what your system has shouldn't affect the image creation process 16:13:23 yeah 16:14:00 If it's in mock, then no issues.. 16:14:09 #info Issue #301: NeuroFedora brochure - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/301 16:14:31 #info Issue #661: Request for help with designing a Neuro Fedora brochure - https://pagure.io/design/issue/661 has been filed and is pending 16:14:47 I guess we leave that as is and ping design next week? 16:15:10 Yep... 16:15:26 #info Issue #678: You're a member of the Neuro Fedora SIG - https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/678 - same here, I pinged the ticket yesterday 16:15:43 Still waiting on the design approval.. 16:15:49 Not much we can do here either 16:15:58 Although I hope that some design is finalized before FOSDEM... So that we can give out brochures as well 16:16:07 if possible 16:16:14 MeWjOr: wasn't there a ticket for FOSSDEM too? 16:16:29 there is 16:16:29 found it 16:16:39 #info Issue #307: NeuroFedora at FOSDEM 2020. - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/307 16:16:49 So a few of us can get to FOSDEM, which is awesome 16:16:53 https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/307 16:17:07 #info MeWjOr has volunteered to be the NeuroFedora event "owner" 16:17:15 :D 16:17:30 MeWjOr: what's the plan, what do we need to do? :) 16:17:43 * FranciscoD hands the sacred speaking log thing to MeWjOr 16:18:25 So.... we will be submitting a regular (20 - 40 minute) talk there 16:18:39 And we need all these things: 16:18:41 Abstract 16:18:41 Session type (Lecture or Lightning Talk) 16:18:41 Session length (20-40 min, 10 min for a lightning talk) 16:18:41 Expected prior knowledge / intended audience 16:18:43 Speaker bio 16:18:46 Links to code / slides / material for the talk (optional) 16:18:48 Links to previous talks by the speaker 16:19:09 OK. Our abstract can be similar to the one we used for CNS. I can rewrite it for FOSDEM 16:19:15 I just need some material to speak upon, and I can do the rest 16:19:23 40 minutes OK with you MeWjOr ? 16:19:41 I have a few sets of slides that you can take and tweak 16:20:16 Link to code etc. will be the ISO and documentation and so on, so that's sorted 16:20:21 I am not sure... it would depend upon the material... Although I can speak for longer durations 16:20:48 MeWjOr: take a look here: https://pagure.io/projects/neuro-sig/%2A the Flock and OSB slides are both there 16:21:05 MeWjOr: when's the deadline for submissions? 16:21:13 1st December 16:21:45 There's also a booth submission going on... No one from the Fedora project have sent out a proposal yet... 16:22:00 What's that? 16:22:05 and the deadline for the booth submission is 1st November 16:22:06 MeWjOr: OK, how about you go through the slides this week and see what you think? I'll work on the abstract in the meantime? 16:22:30 MeWjOr: ugh, the booth submission is a general Fedora thing. If no one takes the initiative, it won't happen :/ 16:22:56 Yeah..sure.. I can look up the slides 16:23:36 MeWjOr: for the booth, I'd be happier if someone took the lead and you helped. That way you'll learn how things go 16:23:45 It requires a bit of conference experience 16:24:19 That's what I was going for... I need some XP.. 16:24:39 maybe ping the thread again saying you're happy to help if someone can take the lead? 16:24:50 ohh...sure will 16:25:16 Also check the mindshare tickets and their ML---that e-mail was cross-posted to 3 or 4 lists, so if someone forgets to "reply to all", all lists wont receive the next set of replies 16:25:34 #action MeWjOr go through current slide sets 16:25:56 #action FranciscoD tweak abstract draft for FOSDEM 16:26:16 #action MeWjOr ping FOSDEM booth thread asking for someone to take the lead so they can help 16:26:29 #info FOSDEM deadline for NeuroFedora is 1 Dec 16:26:40 #info FOSDEM deadline for booth is 1 Nov 16:26:55 pagure.issue.tag.added -- ankursinha tagged ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#307: S: Next meeting https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/307 16:26:56 pagure.issue.tag.removed -- ankursinha removed the S: Needs review tags from ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#307 https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/307 16:27:45 I think that's all the tickets---anyone have another ticket to be reviewed? 16:28:31 #topic NeuroFedora bugs: https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs 16:28:41 #info https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs -> our pet bugs 16:29:14 Look pretty good actually 16:29:31 I'll update gdcm in a bit---it'll require rebuilding deps etc since there's a soname bump there 16:29:38 #info FranciscoD will take care of gdcm and related updates 16:30:02 For niliearn: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1763771 , I was thinking we'd wait for a stable release before updating? 16:30:08 Thoughts? 16:31:00 Alpha version should not be packaged in my opinion... 16:31:21 I am curious why they released it 16:31:51 I mean I saw the announcement 16:31:54 They do sometimes, for early adopters 16:32:14 Shouldn't they use pre-releases for that 16:32:14 I don't use it myself, so I'm wary of pushing the update without knowing how much has changed 16:32:22 Yeah I am just reading their issue discussion 16:32:25 MeWjOr: it is a pre-release I guess 16:32:49 0.6.0a0, a = alpha (I'd think) 16:33:25 Github offers a pre-release... it show's the pre-releases separately 16:33:37 'a' is alpha, yes 16:33:46 there is a switch between having demo files hosted on OSF vs AWS I think but certainly no reason to rush it out 16:35:40 OK, let's wait for a stable release then 16:35:53 #info We'll wait for a stable nilearn release before updating it in Fedora 16:36:06 How about new packages? Anyone working on anything? 16:36:21 #info graph-tool is almost ready: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1763597 16:36:41 #info fangq added a host of packages, they've also been added to docs now 16:36:45 fangq++ 16:36:45 FranciscoD: Karma for fangq changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:36:47 I need to send you mricron spec file and MNE-CPP 16:37:17 mhough: you can submit them for review when ready and we can work on them there (you're in the packager group now) 16:37:25 ok 16:37:45 Please assign the review ticket to neuro-sig, and me when you file it 16:37:52 that way we'll get the notification 16:37:58 I have DART for robotics as well 16:38:11 Package away :D 16:38:16 Ohh...I'm back... Had to get rid of this perky VPN 16:38:24 I've got the last few comp neuro bits to package---iv and all that 16:38:29 will work on them when I find some cycles 16:38:36 ooh iv would be great 16:38:44 major_: arent you working on some package too? 16:38:47 * FranciscoD cant remember which one 16:39:09 napari 16:39:23 pagure.git.receive -- fangq pushed 1 commit to neuro-sig/documentation (master) https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/documentation/tree/master 16:39:24 I have problems with some python packages but its always while building documentation 16:39:48 mhough: yeh, docs sometimes try to download things 16:39:56 One of napari's dependency is not packaged for Fedora... I will have to package that up first 16:40:11 if you can get them to build without the docs, feel free to submit the review, and we can work on docs there if they're doable 16:40:19 major_: ugh, which one? simple python package, I hope? 16:40:28 Ahh ok that would be great 16:40:42 arviz and pymc3 16:40:54 "pre-commit"... 16:41:15 major_: sounds good 16:41:44 major_: https://pypi.org/project/pre-commit/ ? 16:41:48 Yeah... pre-commit is easy to package as well 16:41:55 OK, great 16:41:55 Yes... 16:42:03 Just a reminder: 16:42:09 #info a Python spec template is here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/blob/master/f/spec-templates/python.spec 16:42:13 pre-commit would be great too 16:42:21 SHould work for most simple setuptools packages 16:43:51 That's quite good then, new packages ticking along too :) 16:44:03 Thats the end of the bug list for this week 16:44:07 #topic Chair for next week 16:44:28 gicmo: blackfile alciregi bt0 major_ mhough : any takers to run the next meeting? :) 16:45:11 I have a busy week this time... So, not me... :( 16:46:20 hrm, no worries 16:46:29 I can do it again if everyone else is busy 16:46:33 when is the next one? 16:46:36 next week? 16:46:43 gicmo: next week, same time, yes :) 16:46:45 Yep.. 16:47:20 * FranciscoD imagines gicmo flipping through their diary 16:47:29 true true 16:47:32 should work (-: 16:47:52 ah, yay 16:48:18 never done that before, but how hard can it be :` 16:48:21 :P 16:48:32 #info gicmo chair next week's meeting 16:48:47 gicmo: it's really easy, probably the easiest thing we do in NeuroFedora XD 16:49:01 pagure.issue.new -- major opened a new ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#310: "Package pre-commit: A framework for managing and maintaining multi-language pre-commit hooks." https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/310 16:49:08 you have to send out a reminder on Friday or Monday, for which you can copy paste the previous one 16:49:08 so even *I* should be able to do it 16:49:18 and then follow the agenda with meetbot commands 16:49:26 roger roger 16:49:27 gicmo: you'll certainly be able to do it :) 16:49:45 #topic Neuroscience of the week 16:49:50 gicmo: I will post a cheat sheet somewhere.. It contains the basic template of how our meetings go 16:50:00 cool thanks 16:50:05 Any one run into any fun podcasts/blogs posts etc this wee? 16:50:08 s/wee/week/ 16:50:17 I've been busy, not had the chance to look through things :( 16:51:06 pagure.issue.assigned.added -- major assigned ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#310 to major https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/310 16:51:13 Not me... 16:51:41 We can skip it this time, I'll find something for next week and send it around 16:52:00 I'd sent this around: https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1007296 "Ten simple rules for helping newcomers become contributors to open projects" 16:52:04 it's a good short read 16:52:12 I listened to the Mitchell's book innate 16:52:42 mhough: ah, the book? Did it do justice to the podcast? 16:53:32 The book is a good intro into the biology behind the systems neuroscience of behavioral genetics 16:54:20 mhough: please info that for the logs maybe---a good takeaway for us :) 16:54:31 It is very relevant to a talk I gave last week on the Child Mind Institute Healthy Brain Network dataset 16:55:59 #info Innate: a good intro into the biology behind the systems neuroscience of behavioral genetics 16:56:53 Since the CMI HBN data is released under a CC license, I am really pushing this dataset and the tools to process it 16:57:24 Nice. We're seeing more and more data being published openly too 16:57:48 We have ~3 minutes for open floor 16:57:55 #topic Open Floor 16:58:01 * FranciscoD has nothing XD 16:58:16 Oh, I do actually 16:58:16 * major_ is building the iso 16:58:27 #info Our pre-print is out: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/810846v1 16:58:45 Awesome! 16:58:47 It's "stuck" at Running Transaction for over 4-5 minutes.. 16:58:52 if you do read it, let me know what you think XD 16:58:56 FranciscoD++ 16:59:03 major_: hold on, should be doing things hopefully 16:59:32 holding on... :P I guess it's because there are over 1900+ packages.. 16:59:41 Maybe:) 16:59:51 Yeh 17:00:04 Right, our hour is up 17:00:07 Let's close 17:00:10 #endmeeting