13:00:55 <MeWjOr> #startmeeting NeuroFedora 2021-03-01
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13:01:06 <MeWjOr> #meetingname neurofedora
13:01:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora'
13:01:39 <MeWjOr> #chairs achilleas alciregi bt0 fm-neuro FranciscoD gicmo MeWjOr zbyszek rachitt_shah[m]
13:02:01 <MeWjOr> #chair achilleas alciregi bt0 fm-neuro FranciscoD gicmo MeWjOr zbyszek rachitt_shah[m]
13:02:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr achilleas alciregi bt0 fm-neuro gicmo rachitt_shah[m] zbyszek
13:02:20 <MeWjOr> anyone else here for the meeting?
13:02:24 <tg-fedneuro> <L​oKoMurdoK> here
13:02:27 <iztokf[m]> here
13:02:29 <MeWjOr> #unchair fm-neuro
13:02:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr achilleas alciregi bt0 gicmo rachitt_shah[m] zbyszek
13:02:36 <MeWjOr> #chair iztokf[m]
13:02:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr achilleas alciregi bt0 gicmo iztokf[m] rachitt_shah[m] zbyszek
13:02:38 <tg-fedneuro> <L​oKoMurdoK> let me move to irc 1 sec
13:02:47 <tg-fedneuro> <t​hatnerdjosh> oh right got to be in IRC
13:02:48 <MeWjOr> Heyy there Luis
13:03:02 <MeWjOr> Yes, cannot chair telegram peeps yet
13:03:08 <omnidapps> hi.
13:03:18 <MeWjOr> #chair omnidapps
13:03:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr achilleas alciregi bt0 gicmo iztokf[m] omnidapps rachitt_shah[m] zbyszek
13:03:35 <lbazan> here
13:03:39 <MeWjOr> #chair lbazan
13:03:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr achilleas alciregi bt0 gicmo iztokf[m] lbazan omnidapps rachitt_shah[m] zbyszek
13:03:41 <MeWjOr> #topic Agenda
13:03:48 <MeWjOr> #info New introductions and roll call.
13:03:57 <MeWjOr> #info Tasks from last week's meeting.
13:04:02 <MeWjOr> #info Open Pagure tickets.
13:04:06 <MeWjOr> #info Open bugs check.
13:04:13 <MeWjOr> #info Open package reviews check.
13:04:18 <MeWjOr> #info Koschei packages check.
13:04:23 <MeWjOr> #info CompNeuro lab compose status check
13:04:28 <MeWjOr> #info Neuroscience query of the week
13:04:36 <MeWjOr> #info Next meeting day, and chair.
13:04:41 <MeWjOr> #info Open Floor
13:04:47 <MeWjOr> I guess that's it
13:05:11 <MeWjOr> #topic New introductions and roll call
13:06:13 <MeWjOr> #info major/MeWjOr, Aniket Pradhan, (+5:30), random python stuff, packaging...
13:07:24 <omnidapps> #info omnidapps,Josh Santos, (+7:00), update python-matplotlib-scalebar
13:08:18 <MeWjOr> nice reminder omnidapps :P
13:08:48 <iztokf[m]> #info iztokf, Iztok Fister Jr., (+1:00), packaging
13:09:07 <MeWjOr> o/
13:09:20 <MeWjOr> Let's move on to the next topic then...
13:09:28 <MeWjOr> #topic Tasks from last meeting
13:09:44 <MeWjOr> #info Tasks from the last meeting: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2021-02-15/neurofedora.2021-02-15-13.05.html
13:10:28 <MeWjOr> omnidapps MeWjOr : look into Venus to ascertain how much work migration from Pluto would be
13:10:31 <omnidapps> For the planets RSS feed aggregation/html display, I haven't had a chance to look at this
13:10:37 <omnidapps> Plan on that this week
13:10:55 <MeWjOr> yep, same... I'll also look into it this week
13:11:01 <MeWjOr> #info omnidapps MeWjOr : look into Venus to ascertain how much work migration from Pluto would be -- work in progress
13:12:00 <MeWjOr> #info FranciscoD assign https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1922612 to omnidapps -- Done
13:12:17 <omnidapps> Am I assigned to this Venus task btw?
13:12:23 <MeWjOr> #info omnidapps work on updating matplotlib-scalebar -- WIP
13:12:25 <omnidapps> or can it only be 1 assignee
13:12:49 <MeWjOr> There is a ticket on Pagure if I recall correctly...
13:12:56 <omnidapps> yip
13:13:13 <MeWjOr> If you want you can assign the ticket to yourself and can work on it
13:13:14 <omnidapps> I'll comment and assign if it can have 2 assignee
13:13:33 <MeWjOr> Ahh, works great
13:13:45 <omnidapps> I don't think we can change our intro can we... I used wrong FAS username
13:13:51 <omnidapps> FAS username nerdsville not omnidapps
13:14:16 <MeWjOr> umm... we'll have to go through a lot of undos then
13:14:34 <omnidapps> If it isn't important I wouldn't worry about it
13:14:54 <MeWjOr> Shouldn't be much of an issue in my opinion
13:15:18 * FranciscoD is here
13:15:20 <FranciscoD> sorry folks
13:15:50 <omnidapps> I am wondering since we both on this ticket https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/421... we should split responsibilities.. maybe one person look at old, other person look at new and we coordinate?
13:15:51 <MeWjOr> #info FranciscoD ping https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1809405 for updates
13:15:52 <MeWjOr> -- pinged
13:16:02 <omnidapps> so I can look at pluto and investigate
13:16:37 <MeWjOr> Sure omnidapps ...
13:16:52 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.assigned.added -- nerdsville assigned ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#421 to nerdsville https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/421
13:16:52 <fm-stg-neuro_> pagure.issue.assigned.added -- nerdsville assigned ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#421 to nerdsville https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/421
13:16:53 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.comment.added -- nerdsville commented on ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#421: "Use pluto instead of venus for planets?" https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/421#comment-718193
13:16:53 <fm-stg-neuro_> pagure.issue.comment.added -- nerdsville commented on ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#421: "Use pluto instead of venus for planets?" https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/421#comment-718193
13:16:59 <MeWjOr> Let's discuss this under the pagure tickets topic
13:17:03 <omnidapps> great
13:17:24 <MeWjOr> #info MeWjOr complete https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1821189 : snakemake -- WIP, more deps
13:17:46 <MeWjOr> FranciscoD file a bug with infra about neuro-sig packages not marked in Koschei
13:18:10 <MeWjOr> I didn't follow the infra issue. FranciscoD maybe you can help
13:18:13 <FranciscoD> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9664
13:18:23 <FranciscoD> WIP: mizdebsk is looking into it
13:18:29 <MeWjOr> Ahh, great
13:18:45 <MeWjOr> #info FranciscoD file a bug with infra about neuro-sig packages not marked in Koschei -- WIP: mizdebsk is looking into it
13:18:58 <MeWjOr> FranciscoD add python3-pynn to f34+ kickstarts
13:19:14 <MeWjOr> This is also complete, if I recall correctly, no?
13:19:18 <FranciscoD> +1
13:19:30 <FranciscoD> https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/pull-request/759
13:19:46 <MeWjOr> #info FranciscoD add python3-pynn to f34+ kickstarts -- Done. PR created
13:19:51 <MeWjOr> #undo
13:19:51 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by MeWjOr at 13:19:46 : FranciscoD add python3-pynn to f34+ kickstarts -- Done. PR created
13:20:02 <MeWjOr> #info FranciscoD add python3-pynn to f34+ kickstarts -- Done, https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/pull-request/759
13:20:11 <MeWjOr> FranciscoD follow up on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849706
13:20:42 <MeWjOr> Still seems like a WIP
13:20:52 <MeWjOr> I'll ping the ticket
13:21:21 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: I think I'll just package it and submit it for review
13:21:31 <FranciscoD> please reassign it to me
13:21:37 <MeWjOr> Ahh, sure
13:21:47 <FranciscoD> it's almost there, but I think Anil is too busy to go through the review process
13:22:10 <MeWjOr> #action FranciscoD : Package bluepyopt: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849706
13:22:35 <MeWjOr> #action MeWjOr Fix deps for snakemake and proceed with the review.
13:22:44 <MeWjOr> I guess that's the previous tasks
13:22:55 <MeWjOr> #topic Open Pagure tickets.
13:23:03 <MeWjOr> #info Tickets marked for discussion: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
13:23:51 <MeWjOr> #info NeuroFedora at INCF Neuroinformatics Assembly: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/427
13:24:22 <FranciscoD> i don't think registration has opened yet. I'll keep an eye on this. A poster would be good.
13:24:31 <MeWjOr> Nothing much to discuss since the registration is not open yet. Although seems like a nice place where we can present NeuroFedora
13:24:35 <FranciscoD> +1
13:24:56 <iztokf[m]> +1
13:25:02 <MeWjOr> #info Use Pluto instead of Venus: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/421
13:25:35 <MeWjOr> nerdsville/omnidapps and I would be working on this
13:26:02 <omnidapps> I really got to figure out how to change the FAS username if I can
13:26:06 <omnidapps> it's confusing different names
13:26:14 <MeWjOr> Ahh, lol
13:26:17 <MeWjOr> omnidapps, do you know how we can divide our tasks?
13:26:24 <MeWjOr> as you were talking about earlier
13:26:31 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: you can't change your FAS username. You'll have to mark this as inactive and make a new one
13:26:35 <omnidapps> I can look into Pluto, and you Venus?
13:26:50 <omnidapps> Yeah I'll prob just keep same FAS username I guess
13:27:08 <MeWjOr> Ahh, sure we can. Although, aren't we planning to move away from Pluto because its not maintained now?
13:27:19 <MeWjOr> s/Pluto/Venus
13:27:24 <omnidapps> yea
13:28:16 <omnidapps> Maybe we can use wiki for feature matrix or such?
13:28:43 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: I think the question is more: how much work is it to migrate
13:28:50 <FranciscoD> not "do we want to migrate"
13:29:02 <FranciscoD> since because venus is a dead project, we do want to migrate
13:29:05 <omnidapps> In that case... maybe we don't look at Venus at all then
13:29:06 <FranciscoD> (does that make sense?)
13:29:26 <omnidapps> and just evaluate pluto and how complicated it is to set up and deploy :)
13:29:29 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: we only need to look into venus to see how the templates can be re-done for pluto
13:30:00 <FranciscoD> deployment is not much of an issue either: I have a cronjob on a local machine here that generates and pushes to the planets periodically
13:30:13 <omnidapps> ok... so I'll work on getting pluto going... and then MeWjOr can work on the Venus templates (or vice versa)
13:30:21 <FranciscoD> that'll be great yet
13:30:33 <FranciscoD> s/yet/yeh/
13:30:44 <MeWjOr> Sounds great
13:31:41 <MeWjOr> #action omnidapps work on how to get started with Pluto
13:32:04 * FranciscoD wonders if pluto is in the repos
13:32:11 <FranciscoD> that'll make life so much easier XD
13:32:27 <MeWjOr> #action MeWjOr work on templates to transfer on Pluto
13:32:29 <omnidapps> yea otherwise we need another ticket
13:32:36 <MeWjOr> XD
13:32:59 <omnidapps> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pluto
13:33:01 <omnidapps> is that it?
13:33:08 <omnidapps> nope nvm x)
13:33:30 <omnidapps> I think it isn't :S unless named differently
13:33:37 <FranciscoD> it's ruby, no? `gem install ..` may work etc.
13:33:47 <FranciscoD> it'll probably be named `rubygem-pluto` if its ruby
13:33:53 <FranciscoD> we can check later :)
13:33:59 <omnidapps> and must be official package?
13:34:14 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: no, not necessarily. We can use it even if it isn't packaged
13:34:30 <omnidapps> ok
13:34:49 <MeWjOr> The next ticket is the reading list. Let's move onto the next topic.
13:35:02 <MeWjOr> #topic Open bugs check.
13:35:12 <MeWjOr> #info NeuroFedora bugs: https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs
13:36:13 <MeWjOr> Almost all seem to be updates
13:37:11 <MeWjOr> I was almost finished packaging snakemake until the upstream decided to roll a new release
13:37:24 <MeWjOr> Now I have some more deps to package :P
13:37:29 <FranciscoD> XD
13:37:47 <iztokf[m]> You can count on me for review :)
13:38:12 <MeWjOr> Ahh yes, I had a 1-2 reviews... I'll ping you iztokf[m] :D
13:38:39 <MeWjOr> Let's move to the next topic...
13:38:43 <MeWjOr> #topic Open package reviews check.
13:39:34 <MeWjOr> Don't see any open review request
13:40:02 <MeWjOr> Ahh, I had one package up for review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1931046
13:40:16 <MeWjOr> If someone's free, please take it up :D
13:40:23 <MeWjOr> .ping iztokf[m] :D
13:40:24 <zodbot> pong
13:41:05 <iztokf[m]> I will take it up :)
13:41:23 <MeWjOr> :)
13:41:40 <FranciscoD> iztokf++
13:41:42 <FranciscoD> major++
13:41:44 <MeWjOr> Let's move to the next topic. We seem to be a bit short on the time
13:42:00 <MeWjOr> iztokf++
13:42:00 <zodbot> MeWjOr: Karma for iztokf changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:42:06 <MeWjOr> FranciscoD++
13:42:12 <MeWjOr> o.O
13:42:18 <MeWjOr> #topic Koschei packages check.
13:42:35 <MeWjOr> #info Neuro-sig packages on Koschei: https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/groups/neuro-sig
13:43:26 <MeWjOr> ahh... yes, many packages are missing
13:43:30 <FranciscoD> Yeh :(
13:43:53 <MeWjOr> Next topic then, since it doesn't show much info
13:44:02 <MeWjOr> #topic CompNeuro lab compose status check
13:44:23 <MeWjOr> #info The comp neuro lab image task on Koji: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
13:44:48 <MeWjOr> Last rawhide build failed...
13:45:13 <FranciscoD> I think it's a general issue
13:45:30 <FranciscoD> https://pagure.io/releng/failed-composes/issue/2291
13:45:45 <MeWjOr> ERROR: Image creation failed: novirt_install failed
13:45:51 <FranciscoD> ..
13:45:53 <FranciscoD> that's a new one
13:46:39 <MeWjOr> Looks like some issue in the base fedora image
13:47:00 <MeWjOr> #info F34 comp neuro image is building correctly
13:47:15 <FranciscoD> yeh
13:47:24 <FranciscoD> although why do only the 3 artefacts fail?
13:47:32 <FranciscoD> let's leave it for now, if it continues to fail, we'll look into it
13:47:53 <MeWjOr> #info rawhide comp neuro image failed. Look into it if it continues to fail
13:48:02 <FranciscoD> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/4019/62764019/anaconda-anaconda.log
13:48:03 <FranciscoD> dep errors
13:48:13 <FranciscoD> `  - package paraview-5.9.0-2.fc34.i686 requires python3-autobahn, but none of the providers can be installed`
13:48:15 <FranciscoD> paraview again
13:48:28 <MeWjOr> ahh lol
13:48:32 <MeWjOr> #undo
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13:48:51 <omnidapps> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8cFKjSZg/
13:48:52 <MeWjOr> #info rawhide comp neuro image failed. dependency issue.
13:48:55 <FranciscoD> python-autobahn is FTI, which is causing it
13:49:11 <omnidapps> That seems to be actual error, no? the novirt_install error is because it didn't complete install (anaconda error)
13:49:23 <omnidapps> maybe prob with kickstart
13:49:23 <MeWjOr> FTI?
13:49:45 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket releng/failed-composes#2291: "Fedora-Rawhide-20210227.n.0 FINISHED_INCOMPLETE" https://pagure.io/releng/failed-composes/issue/2291#comment-718196
13:49:46 <fm-stg-neuro_> pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket releng/failed-composes#2291: "Fedora-Rawhide-20210227.n.0 FINISHED_INCOMPLETE" https://pagure.io/releng/failed-composes/issue/2291#comment-718196
13:49:50 <FranciscoD> "fails to install"
13:49:54 <FranciscoD> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1933615
13:50:09 <MeWjOr> omnidapps it looks like there was an issue with the anaconda installer's dep
13:50:20 <omnidapps> ah ok
13:50:27 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: yeh, if you look at the anaconda-anaconda.log file I linked to above, it lists the error in detail
13:50:32 <FranciscoD> just too many log files there XD
13:50:40 <omnidapps> :) I was looking at root.log
13:51:18 <MeWjOr> Next topic...
13:51:20 <MeWjOr> #topic Neuroscience query of the week
13:52:55 <MeWjOr> #info If you find anything interesting, add it to this ticket here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/318
13:53:05 * FranciscoD put a few this morning while doing the RSS rounds
13:53:13 <FranciscoD> two papers on the cerebellum there
13:53:18 <FranciscoD> worth skimming perhaps
13:53:20 <MeWjOr> I skimmed through part 1
13:53:35 <MeWjOr> Sounded really cool, but wasn't able to grasp much
13:53:43 <FranciscoD> same here XD
13:53:55 <MeWjOr> Lol
13:54:02 <FranciscoD> will have to spend more time on it: lots of context to catch up on
13:54:52 <MeWjOr> https://www.incf.org/blog/new-publication-neuroinformatics-members-incf-community
13:55:30 <MeWjOr> Here they discuss about "FAIR" neuroscience. Is it some abbreviation?
13:55:45 <MeWjOr> Or do they mean, open neuroscience so that it is fair for all
13:56:01 <FranciscoD> it's an abbreviation
13:56:30 <omnidapps> maybe it's both! :P
13:56:31 <FranciscoD> weird that it's not written in full on their website
13:56:51 <MeWjOr> XD
13:57:08 <FranciscoD> Findability, Accessibility, Interoperability, and Reusability
13:57:13 <FranciscoD> had to go find this paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/sdata201618
13:57:21 <omnidapps> Seems fair to me :)
13:57:30 <FranciscoD> I'll see if I can ask them to put the full form somewhere on the website
13:57:59 <MeWjOr> Ahh lol...
13:58:14 <MeWjOr> We're almost out of time
13:58:17 <FranciscoD> it's expanded here: https://www.incf.org/about/what-we-do
13:58:29 <MeWjOr> next topic...
13:58:55 <MeWjOr> #topic Next meeting: time/day/chair
13:59:03 <MeWjOr> same time next week?
13:59:13 <MeWjOr> anyone who wants to chair?
13:59:14 <omnidapps> 2 weeks isn't it?
13:59:23 <omnidapps> I am fine for next week
13:59:24 <MeWjOr> ohh, 2 weeks yes
13:59:29 <MeWjOr> my bad*
13:59:58 <omnidapps> sounds good to me :)
14:00:03 <FranciscoD> 2 weeks, same time works
14:00:09 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: would you like to chair your first meeting? :)
14:00:21 <omnidapps> yikes, can try lol :)
14:00:25 <omnidapps> sure
14:00:29 <FranciscoD> awesome :D
14:00:31 <FranciscoD> omnidapps++
14:00:31 <MeWjOr> great!
14:00:41 <MeWjOr> its nerdsville
14:00:46 <MeWjOr> nerdsville++
14:00:46 <zodbot> MeWjOr: Karma for nerdsville changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:00:46 <FranciscoD> nerdsville++
14:00:52 <MeWjOr> :D
14:01:00 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: if you've mentioned omnidapps as your IRC nick in FAS, that'll work here too
14:01:07 <omnidapps> Why didn't Francisco get his karma earlier?
14:01:11 <lbazan> What do you think in the telegram group delete the deleted accounts?
14:01:27 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: only one cookie per release :(
14:01:31 <omnidapps> ah
14:01:34 <MeWjOr> #action omnidapps/nerdsville chair the next meeting on 2021/01/15
14:01:37 <FranciscoD> lbazan: i haven't noticed them, let me check
14:01:44 <omnidapps> .fasinfo nerdsville
14:01:45 <zodbot> omnidapps: User: nerdsville, Name: Josh Santos, email: josh@omnidapps.com, Creation: 2014-08-01, IRC Nick: omnidapps, Timezone: Asia/Bangkok, Locale: en, GPG key ID: , Status: active
14:01:48 <zodbot> omnidapps: Approved Groups: neuro-sig fedorabugs packager wikiedit cla_fpca cla_done
14:01:51 <MeWjOr> #action MeWjOr send out the meeting logs
14:01:53 <omnidapps> IRC nick is set already
14:01:58 <MeWjOr> #topic open-floor
14:02:13 <FranciscoD> lbazan: yeh, we can remove them. I'll do that now
14:02:17 <FranciscoD> probably spam accounts anyway
14:02:18 <FranciscoD> :)
14:02:22 <MeWjOr> we seem to be out of time, I'll turn off the meeting now
14:02:30 <lbazan> :-)
14:02:36 <lbazan> FranciscoD++
14:02:42 <MeWjOr> Thanks for attending :D
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