13:02:29 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2021-06-21
13:02:29 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Jun 21 13:02:29 2021 UTC.
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13:02:29 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora_-_2021-06-21'
13:02:41 <FranciscoD> #meetingname neurofedora
13:02:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora'
13:02:53 <FranciscoD> #chair achilleas bt0 coremodule jnsamyak major_ principis zyn-kun[m]
13:02:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD achilleas bt0 coremodule jnsamyak major_ principis zyn-kun[m]
13:03:23 <FranciscoD> #topic Agenda
13:03:29 <FranciscoD> #info New introductions and roll call.
13:03:33 <FranciscoD> #info Tasks from last week's meeting.
13:03:40 <FranciscoD> #info Open Pagure tickets.
13:03:49 <FranciscoD> #info Package health check.
13:03:53 <FranciscoD> #info Open package reviews check.
13:03:58 <FranciscoD> #info CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 35.
13:04:03 <FranciscoD> #info Neuroscience query of the week
13:04:08 <FranciscoD> #info Next meeting day, and chair.
13:04:13 <FranciscoD> #info Open floor.
13:04:30 <FranciscoD> The agenda and other information is announced on the blog and the mailing lists: https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2021/06/21/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-21-june-1300-utc.html
13:04:49 <FranciscoD> #topic New introductions and roll call
13:05:06 <FranciscoD> If you are new here, please introduce yourself
13:05:35 <FranciscoD> #info Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD), FAS: ankursinha, UTC+1; Packaging, NeuroFedora, general Fedora tasks
13:05:39 <FranciscoD> major_: here?
13:05:42 <MeWjOr> #info major/MeWjOr, Aniket Pradhan, +5:30, interested in packaging, neuro, and am a user :D
13:05:49 <FranciscoD> #chair MeWjOr
13:05:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr achilleas bt0 coremodule jnsamyak major_ principis zyn-kun[m]
13:05:57 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: two nicks in the room today? :D
13:06:12 <MeWjOr> ahh... major_ is my freebnc account...
13:06:19 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr++
13:06:24 <MeWjOr> I use it to read messages when im offline :P
13:06:32 <FranciscoD> let's wait a few minutes for others to join
13:06:45 <FranciscoD> the telegram bridges being down is unfortunate, it's split folks :/
13:06:52 <MeWjOr> you could probably unchair major_ :/
13:06:55 * FranciscoD still hasn't figured out why zodbot isn't changing topics
13:07:16 <FranciscoD> let's see if that helps..
13:07:26 <MeWjOr> Probably zodbot also got affected from the change
13:08:15 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: no harm letting it be chaired
13:08:27 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: yeh, maybe we haven't set the irc permissions up correctly for zodbot
13:08:39 <FranciscoD> I couldn't see any thing off though, will check again after the meeting
13:09:06 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: is this your registered libera nick?
13:09:19 <FranciscoD> I'll add it as a channel op if it is?
13:09:53 <MeWjOr> yep, it is
13:10:23 <FranciscoD> ok, one sec
13:11:14 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: there you go, try opping yourself?
13:11:24 <FranciscoD> -> /query chanserv op #fedora-neuro MeWjOr
13:11:38 <principis> Hi, I'm new here, just watching for the time being :)
13:11:46 <FranciscoD> welcome principis :)
13:11:48 <FranciscoD> #chair principis
13:11:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr achilleas bt0 coremodule jnsamyak major_ principis zyn-kun[m]
13:11:57 <MeWjOr> I think it worked
13:12:09 <FranciscoD> principis: would you like to introduce yourself with a few sentences? :)
13:12:14 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: yep. worked :)
13:12:26 <MeWjOr> So, I am now an "OP" in this channel? Lemme google about it :P
13:13:41 <principis> Sure :). I'm Arthur Bols, FAS: principis, UTC+1, I'm nterested in packaging and currently a Computer Science student at the KU Leuven.
13:13:48 <FranciscoD> principis++
13:13:48 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Karma for principis changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:13:56 <FranciscoD> principis: that's awesome, welcome again :)
13:14:06 <principis> Thank you :)
13:14:06 <FranciscoD> principis: if there's anyting we can help with at all, please do let us know :)
13:14:10 <FranciscoD> .thank principis
13:14:10 <zodbot> FranciscoD thinks principis is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type principis++ since that is what gives them a cookie)
13:14:18 <MeWjOr> Hello Art! Glad you could join today! :D
13:14:30 <MeWjOr> principis++
13:14:30 <zodbot> MeWjOr: Karma for principis changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:14:46 <principis> Hi MeWjOr :)
13:14:49 <FranciscoD> let's move on with the agenda now, please stop me anytime you need to
13:15:02 <FranciscoD> #topic Tasks from last meeting
13:15:16 <FranciscoD> aha, there goes zodbot, looks like I "fixed" it XD
13:15:26 <FranciscoD> #info Minutes from last meeting are here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/neurofedora/neurofedora.2021-06-07-13.03.html
13:15:39 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD debug why zodbot won't change topic in channel: DONE
13:15:53 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr add new packages to docs + neuro-sig + koschei -- done now I think?
13:16:30 <MeWjOr> I still have to add them in the docs... neuro-sig is done.
13:16:46 <MeWjOr> Kind of unsure of koschei, but let me check
13:17:00 <FranciscoD> ok, I periodically update the koschei list, so they'll get added eventually
13:17:15 <FranciscoD> #info MeWjOr add new packages to docs + neuro-sig + koschei: DONE
13:17:23 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr add new packages to docs
13:17:32 <FranciscoD> -> MeWjOr continue with snakemake package
13:17:39 <FranciscoD> still working on deps here?
13:17:55 <MeWjOr> Almost done, with two more deps left... The snakemake spec has also passed the review
13:18:08 <FranciscoD> #info Snakemake spec has passed review
13:18:20 <MeWjOr> one of the deps is up for review...
13:18:27 <FranciscoD> OK, I'll re-action it just to have it in the logs
13:18:39 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr finish packaging remaining Snakemake deps
13:18:39 <MeWjOr> Sure
13:18:48 <FranciscoD> -> neuro-sig go over their packages to fix FTBFS and FTI bugs
13:19:04 <MeWjOr> python-configargparse is up for review over here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1914818
13:19:10 <FranciscoD> this is a WIP, although the number of FTBFS (failed to build from source) and FTI (failed to install) bugs have reduced quite a bit now
13:19:31 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: I'm surprised that wasn't in the repos already. Let's tackle that in the pending reviews topic
13:19:33 * FranciscoD notes
13:19:47 <FranciscoD> #nick neuro-sig
13:19:58 <FranciscoD> #action neuro-sig go over their packages to fix FTBFS and FTI bugs: WIP
13:20:11 <FranciscoD> those were all our tasks, moving on to next topic
13:20:20 <FranciscoD> #info Open Pagure tickets.
13:20:32 <FranciscoD> #info Tickets are here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
13:20:44 <FranciscoD> Just the usual two
13:20:52 <MeWjOr> I shared the wrong bug... its python-connection_pool that is up for review.
13:21:05 <MeWjOr> configargparse fails to build to py3.10
13:21:08 <MeWjOr> :(
13:21:08 <FranciscoD> uh
13:21:10 <FranciscoD> :/
13:21:37 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: nerdsville said they're on leave for a bit, no? They'll look into the pluto ticket on their return?
13:22:07 <MeWjOr> From what I recall yes. We had to work on the template for Pluto
13:22:17 <MeWjOr> to make it more similar to the current site...
13:22:28 <FranciscoD> Yeh, that's low priority so we'll get to it at some point
13:22:32 <MeWjOr> they both don't share the same template format unfotunately :/
13:22:58 <FranciscoD> yeh, that was my primary concern when moving from the rather old venus tool to a new pluto tool
13:23:15 <FranciscoD> but it isn't urgent, since venus still "works" for the moment
13:23:26 <FranciscoD> we'll revisit this ticket later
13:23:35 <FranciscoD> #topic Package health check.
13:23:55 <FranciscoD> #info Please take a look at the packages dashboard for the Neuro-SIG here: https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/neuro-sig
13:24:59 <FranciscoD> A few new releases, but mostly FTBFS and FTI bugs in rawhide (F35)
13:25:09 <FranciscoD> Quite a few of them are because of broken dependencies, so they're slowly being sorted out
13:25:27 <MeWjOr> Most FTBFS are from py3.10 and broken deps
13:25:28 <MeWjOr> ye
13:25:55 <FranciscoD> Yeh: a few aren't ready for Python 3.10 yet too, so they'll need to be reported upstream
13:26:05 <FranciscoD> and where possible patched, and the patches sent upstream
13:26:33 <FranciscoD> there's some time to do this but we should aim to fix these before F35 branches from rawhide on August 10
13:26:43 <FranciscoD> #info F35 branches from rawhide on 10 Aug
13:26:52 <FranciscoD> So that's about ~6 weeks
13:28:03 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: you see anything urgent that needs fixing ASAP?
13:28:44 <MeWjOr> Not exactly...
13:29:06 <MeWjOr> But 6 weeks looks like a lot less time... since a lot of upstream projects haven't started development on py3.10
13:30:22 <FranciscoD> Yeh, I guess what we can do for a start is triage and file issues upstream
13:30:35 <FranciscoD> as long as we're aware of the bugs, the packages are safe
13:31:10 <MeWjOr> Yep...
13:31:34 <FranciscoD> #info Neuro-sig folks: start
13:31:37 <FranciscoD> #undo
13:31:37 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by FranciscoD at 13:31:34 : Neuro-sig folks: start
13:32:01 <FranciscoD> #action neuro-sig start going over python3.10 bugs and filing upstream issues where necessary for a start
13:32:25 <FranciscoD> #info Packages are healthy, only Py3.10 related issues on rawhide at the moment
13:32:32 <FranciscoD> #topic Open package reviews check
13:32:50 <FranciscoD> #info Neuro-SIG packging tracker bug is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
13:33:19 <FranciscoD> #info If you look at the "depends on" under "advanced options", you'll see all reviews that are currently in progress
13:34:20 <FranciscoD> #info python-stopit, python-connection_pool, Snakemake, python-spikeextractors are in review
13:35:17 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: are your reviews all assigned?
13:35:36 <MeWjOr> python-connection_pool is unassigned yet
13:36:02 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: worth asking for a quick review-swap on -devel?
13:36:05 <MeWjOr> Got some great reviews from principis, Rafael and Ben on python-stopit
13:36:15 <MeWjOr> Would do :D
13:36:21 <FranciscoD> awesome
13:36:38 <FranciscoD> always good to make sure we keep swapping reviews with the complete package maintainer community :)
13:36:51 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr ask for review swap for python-connection_pool on devel list
13:37:03 <FranciscoD> #topic CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 35.
13:37:18 <FranciscoD> #info Compose task on Koji: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
13:37:24 <FranciscoD> Look fine,
13:37:39 <FranciscoD> #info Last successful compose was today: 2021-06-21 08:40:37
13:37:49 <FranciscoD> #topic Neuroscience query of the week
13:37:58 <FranciscoD> Anything here?
13:38:21 <FranciscoD> I'd added a few bits to our reading list here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/318
13:38:29 <FranciscoD> mostly around peer-review and open access publishing
13:40:07 <FranciscoD> OK, let's move on and finish up then :)
13:40:16 <FranciscoD> #topic Next meeting day, and chair.
13:40:46 <FranciscoD> next meeting should be in 2 weeks at the same time on 5th july
13:41:06 <FranciscoD> I'm expected to be at CNS*2021 though, so I may not make it
13:41:21 <MeWjOr> Ohh... maybe then 3 weeks?
13:41:23 <FranciscoD> the complete schedule has not yet been announced: https://www.cnsorg.org/cns-2021
13:41:32 <fm-neuro> 15pagure.issue.comment.added -- masch commented on ticket fedora-join/Welcome-to-Fedora#54: "Welcome to Fedora @masch " 10https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Welcome-to-Fedora/issue/54#comment-739641
13:41:43 <MeWjOr> Are we presenting something in CNS this time
13:41:45 <MeWjOr> ?
13:42:28 <FranciscoD> Yes, we have a showcase on NeuroFedora:  https://www.cnsorg.org/cns-2021-tutorials#S3
13:42:32 <FranciscoD> should be on July 3
13:42:51 <MeWjOr> Oooh, great
13:43:04 <FranciscoD> The software WG is also doing some tutorials: https://ocns.github.io/SoftwareWG/2021/06/09/software-wg-tutorials-at-cns-2021-online-bash-git-and-python.html
13:43:18 <FranciscoD> but CNS*2021 is not free this year, so I expect fewer numbers of folks to attend :/
13:43:44 <MeWjOr> :(
13:44:21 <FranciscoD> OCNS couldn't afford to have another free conf, so there's a much reduced registration fees
13:44:44 <FranciscoD> #info NeuroFedora show case at CNS*2021 on July 3: https://www.cnsorg.org/cns-2021-tutorials#S3
13:46:04 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: should we skip the next one maybe, to keep our 2 week schedule?
13:46:11 <FranciscoD> have it on Mon 19 July?
13:46:22 <MeWjOr> which NeuroFedora mailing list should we include in the review swap mail?
13:46:40 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: I'd send it to -devel in general, and cc neuro-sig@lists if you wish
13:46:48 <MeWjOr> Sure, no problems... Let's have it on 19th July
13:46:50 <FranciscoD> the latter is the list that neuro-sig maintainers are expected to be on
13:46:54 <FranciscoD> OK, cool
13:47:23 <MeWjOr> neuro-sig@lists.fp.o?
13:47:28 <FranciscoD> #info Next meeting will be in 4 weeks on July 19 on account of CNS*2021
13:47:44 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: yeh, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/neuro-sig.lists.fedoraproject.org/
13:47:57 <MeWjOr> great. Thanks!
13:48:04 <FranciscoD> it's where all bugzilla notifications go, it isn't used for discussion at all.
13:48:21 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: will you make the next meeting on 19th? Would you chair?
13:48:36 <MeWjOr> Sure, can do
13:48:41 <FranciscoD> awesome, thanks :)
13:48:49 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr chair next meeting on 19th July
13:49:03 <FranciscoD> I think that's the agenda, we have ~10 minutes for open floor
13:49:06 <FranciscoD> #topic Open floor
13:49:19 <FranciscoD> Anything that wasn't on the agenda can be discussed here
13:49:37 <FranciscoD> principis: what did you think of the meeting? Any queries etc. we can clarify for you? :)
13:50:29 <principis> FranciscoD: It was very clear, thank you :)
13:50:51 <FranciscoD> great, I'm glad :)
13:51:09 <FranciscoD> if there is nothing to discuss in open floor, I'll close the meeting in 2 minutes
13:51:14 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD send out logs
13:51:43 <MeWjOr> :D
13:52:19 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD reply to twitter announcement with link to logs
13:52:26 <FranciscoD> let's close then :)
13:52:30 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting