13:01:26 #startmeeting NeuroFedora 2022-04-11 13:01:26 Meeting started Mon Apr 11 13:01:26 2022 UTC. 13:01:26 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 13:01:26 The chair is FranciscoD_. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 13:01:26 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:01:26 The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora_2022-04-11' 13:01:37 #meetingname neurofedora 13:01:37 The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora' 13:03:32 #chair Alessio achilleas vanessa_kris major lbazan Luna Jernberg bittin zbyszek[m] zbyszek omnidapps[m] omnidapps2 omnidapps1 musicinmybrain music_ 13:03:32 Current chairs: Alessio FranciscoD_ Jernberg Luna achilleas bittin lbazan major music_ musicinmybrain omnidapps1 omnidapps2 omnidapps[m] vanessa_kris zbyszek zbyszek[m] 13:03:50 Please let me know if we missed anyone folks 13:03:50 # 13:03:53 #topic Agenda 13:04:00 #info Agenda: https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/04/11/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-11-april-1300-utc.html 13:04:09 #info New introductions and roll call. 13:04:15 .hello bittin 13:04:16 bittin: bittin 'Luna Jernberg' 13:04:16 #info Tasks from last meeting. 13:04:29 #info Open Pagure tickets. 13:04:31 (sorry got confused) 13:04:38 #info Package health check. 13:04:45 #info Open package reviews check. 13:04:52 #info CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 36/37. 13:05:00 #info Neuroscience query of the week 13:05:11 #info Next meeting day, and chair. 13:05:14 #info Open floor 13:05:24 #topic New introductions and roll call 13:05:30 .hello bittin 13:05:31 bittin: bittin 'Luna Jernberg' 13:05:51 #info Ankur Sinha (ankursinha, FranciscoD), UTC+1, NeuroFedora, packaging etc. 13:06:14 hi davdunc 13:06:19 #chair davdunc 13:06:19 Current chairs: Alessio FranciscoD_ Jernberg Luna achilleas bittin davdunc lbazan major music_ musicinmybrain omnidapps1 omnidapps2 omnidapps[m] vanessa_kris zbyszek zbyszek[m] 13:07:20 let's wait for ~3 minutes and then we can proceed with the agenda 13:07:56 .hello2 13:07:57 davdunc: davdunc 'David Duncan' 13:08:09 #info Shane Allcroft (shaneallcroft, shaane), UTC-4, Neurofedora, packaging 13:08:20 hi shaane[m] ! 13:08:30 hello! : ) 13:08:41 how's it going? busy times? 13:09:27 I don't seem to have voice in the channel from my irc. 13:09:34 wierd 13:09:36 ah. I do. 13:09:45 sometimes the bridge lags :( 13:09:50 #chair davdunc 13:09:50 Current chairs: Alessio FranciscoD_ Jernberg Luna achilleas bittin davdunc lbazan major music_ musicinmybrain omnidapps1 omnidapps2 omnidapps[m] vanessa_kris zbyszek zbyszek[m] 13:09:54 Yeah things are going well, got a lot busier but hoping to get some packaging stuff done for neurofedora in the coming month 13:09:58 camer over to matrix client and I can see it just fine. 13:10:17 cool, is this your first neurofedora meeting davdunc ? 13:10:31 shaane[m]: that's awesome, thanks :) 13:10:37 FranciscoD_: it's my first not at Flock! :) 13:10:50 yes! hello davdunc : ) 13:11:02 👋 13:12:00 ah, awesome! Hopefully we'll have more in-person events soon. There's NEST and Hatch coming up: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-fedora-hatch-announcing-dates-call-for-volunteers/ 13:12:08 OK, let's go through the agenda then :) 13:12:12 davdunc++ 13:12:12 FranciscoD_: Karma for davdunc changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:12:27 :) ty 13:12:27 #topic Tasks from last meeting 13:12:28 i suggested a Stockholm meetup yesterday: https://pagure.io/flock/issue/352 but its just at idea stage yet, nothing decided 100% 13:12:44 nice @bittin! 13:12:46 bittin++ 13:13:08 #info Here are the minutes from the last meeting, please scroll towards the bottom to see the action items: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/neurofedora/neurofedora.2022-03-28-13.00.html 13:13:29 #info FranciscoD_ update ITK -> remains WIP 13:13:43 #info omnidapps[m] send out reminder for next meeting and publish new blog post -> DONE 13:14:00 #info ankursinha[m] - chair next meeting on April 11, 2022 at 1300 UTC -> happening now :) 13:14:12 nothing else last meeting, awesome :) 13:14:24 #topic Open Pagure tickets. 13:14:49 #info If there's anything to be discussed at the meeting, please open an issue on our pagure project and tag it as "next meeting". https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting 13:14:56 #info No tickets to discuss today 13:15:03 (the reading list ticket is done in the "query of the week" topic 13:15:42 #topic Package health check 13:16:04 #info Please head to the Neuro SIG packages dashboard here to see how our packages are doing: https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/user/neuro-sig 13:17:22 a couple new versions, some packages that fails to build it looks like 13:17:39 Yeh, a few of the FTBFS issues need to be reported upstream 13:18:17 Folks, please feel free to take on bugs, especially ones about new versions---they're usually quite simple to do, and are a great way to practice packaging 13:19:58 * FranciscoD_ is closing a few duplicate bugs etc 13:20:05 thanks. Are there specific ones that are more critical than others? 13:20:27 I'll just dig around for the ones that aren't assigned. :) 13:22:16 I see the structure now. 13:22:18 I think it's fine just to pick any that aren't assigned. Unless a bug affects users already, or it risks the package being retired it's the same priority as all the others 13:22:46 thanks FranciscoD_ 13:23:01 Nah, thank you for helping out :) 13:23:31 Also, folks note that by default the bugs are assigned to whoever packaged them up ("primary maintainer"), but we maintain all these packages collectively---so it's perfectly fine to take on bugs if they're not assigned 13:23:49 Just remember to click "take" and change the status to "assigned" so everyone knows that you're working on the bug 13:24:30 the python version update bugs are generally easy---spec bump, check in new sources, push, build, create updates 13:24:54 #info Packages in good health---a few FTBFS and new versions available. 13:24:59 #chair Nishant Mishra 13:24:59 Current chairs: Alessio FranciscoD_ Jernberg Luna Mishra Nishant achilleas bittin davdunc lbazan major music_ musicinmybrain omnidapps1 omnidapps2 omnidapps[m] vanessa_kris zbyszek zbyszek[m] 13:25:04 maybe should learn how to do that then 13:25:08 hey Nishant Mishra , welcome to the meeting :) 13:25:15 Thank you 13:25:28 just attending diffrent Working group meetings 13:25:31 :D 13:25:35 bittin: yeh, sure, and we've got lots of sponsors in the team too, so we can help you get sponsored to the packager group when the time comes 13:25:49 Nishant Mishra: awesome, that's the right thing to do to learn what's going on in the community :) 13:25:59 what's your FAS Nishant Mishra ? 13:26:05 nishant0098 13:26:10 have only done PKGBUILDS on Arch, but maybe i should learn to update spec files too some day when i am less lazy :p 13:26:11 nishant0098++ 13:26:14 FranciscoD_: Karma for nishant0098 changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:26:21 .thank nishant0098 13:26:21 FranciscoD_ thinks nishant0098 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type nishant0098++ since that is what gives them a cookie) 13:26:37 nishant0098++ 13:26:37 bittin: Karma for nishant0098 changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:27:05 bittin: yeh, if you're OK with building things from source, it should be easy for you to figure out spec files etc---they're just recipes for building from source 13:27:14 ah 13:27:17 Cool, let's move to the next topic 13:27:20 #topic Open package reviews check 13:27:39 Pkgbuilds on fedora? 13:27:59 NishantMishra[m], nah Arch, but i guess spec files is kinda the same but for Fedora/RHEL/CentOS etc 13:28:05 #info Our new package review tracker bug is here. Whenever we package a new software, when we file the review ticket, we block this tracker bug so that the whole team gets notified of progress: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro 13:28:38 So please click on the "show advanced fields" on the right, and then look at the list of bugs that this tracker "depends on" 13:29:00 * FranciscoD_ uploaded an image: (222KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/fedora.im/b513d4edc58a0af1b6fb960b5b395115e74d04fe/neuro-tracker.png > 13:29:11 8 open 13:29:14 ^ that's what it'll look like :) 13:29:25 We have Neuro use case do we have generla scientific use case also in Fedora? 13:29:43 s/generla/general/ 13:29:57 Fedora for Physicists etc 13:30:30 NishantMishra[m], https://labs.fedoraproject.org/ 13:32:01 Nishant Mishra: yeh, there are lots of "labs", and anyone can start one 13:32:17 There are two package review tickets that are looking for review---any takers? :) 13:32:34 #info looking for reviewer: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2073824 13:32:39 Can a newbie take one? 13:32:44 #info looking for reviewer: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2073825 13:33:22 Nishant Mishra: yeh, of course, newcomers are encouraged to review packages to learn more about the guidelines: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/How_to_Get_Sponsored_into_the_Packager_Group/#commenting_on_other_review_requests 13:33:40 #info Other package review tickets all in progress 13:33:51 #topic CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 36/37 13:34:13 all green in April, red March 30th 2022 13:34:14 #info In this topic, we check the status of the comp-neuro lab image here on Koji: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691 13:34:28 #info All green now, all good 13:34:47 Yeh, the latest ones matter, so we're good 👍️ 13:34:57 All green 13:35:12 This is the image that people will download from here: https://labs.fedoraproject.org/en/comp-neuro/ 13:35:12 * NishantMishra[m] thinks all is good with Koji images 13:35:35 #action FranciscoD_ add arbor to featured apps on labs page 13:35:45 (after I've updated it to the latest version, of course :)) 13:35:53 ;) 13:36:00 #topic Neuroscience query of the week 13:36:12 https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/318 13:36:19 #info In this topic, we share anything related to neuroscience that we have run into recently: news, articles, anything at all 13:36:23 How do we map brain cells on Fedora Comp Neuro? 13:36:37 ie simulate brain activities 13:36:50 I may get Comp Nuero for this 13:36:52 :D 13:36:57 Depends on what you mean by "map brain cells" :) 13:37:13 you can model them, you can image them, you can record from them 13:37:27 Model them specifically 13:37:47 Image and record would require better hardware I guess 13:38:08 depending on what level you want to model them at, you'll pick a modelling tool. Maybe take a look at https://opensourcebrain.org to get started 13:38:14 allows you to visualise models etc. 13:38:33 * at https://www.opensourcebrain.org, * opensourcebrain.org/ to 13:39:01 alright 13:39:04 Here are a few recent ones i found interesting: 13:39:05 https://www.sciencenews.org/article/past-science-news-coverage-racism-sexism 13:39:12 #info 13:39:12 Here are the Top 10 times scientific imagination failed | Science News 13:39:14 #info https://www.sciencenews.org/article/scientific-imagination-failure-atoms-gravitational-waves-nuclear-power 13:39:20 #info https://www.sciencenews.org/article/forest-trees-reduce-global-warming-climate-cooling-carbon 13:39:32 #info https://www.sciencenews.org/article/scientific-imagination-failure-atoms-gravitational-waves-nuclear-power 13:39:43 you can keep up with this stuff using our two planets, by the way: 13:40:00 #info planet neuroscientists (blogs/articles): https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/planet-neuroscientists/ 13:40:20 #info planet neuroscience (journal publications): https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/planet-neuroscience/ 13:40:58 if you run into anything worth sharing, please drop them on our pagure ticket and we'll bring them up during the meeting 13:41:56 we also maintain a list of resources in docs: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/neurofedora/related-links/ 13:42:40 #topic Next meeting day, and chair 13:42:49 two weeks, same time, same channel? 13:42:54 +1 13:42:59 :) 13:43:04 Anyone want to chair? :) 13:43:09 +1 13:43:21 it's basically just going through the agenda like I did today :) 13:44:05 I can if no one else wants to :) 13:44:18 +1, and I'm always around as a backup :) 13:44:21 shaane[m]++ 13:44:31 shaane++ 13:44:32 shaane++ 13:44:36 :) 13:44:44 thank you! : ) 13:44:46 #info shaane[m] to chair next meeting on 25 April at 1300 UTC 13:45:01 I think shane's FAS username is shaneallcroft, right shaane[m] ? 13:45:10 shaaneallcroft++ 13:45:13 the cookie bit can either take the FAS username, or the IRC nick 13:45:21 shaaneallcroft++ 13:45:22 shaneallcroft++ 13:45:22 davdunc: Karma for shaneallcroft changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:45:27 there we go! 13:45:33 shaneallcroft++ 13:45:38 .thank shaneallcroft 13:45:38 FranciscoD_ thinks shaneallcroft is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type shaneallcroft++ since that is what gives them a cookie) 13:45:38 lot of typing for a cookie! 13:45:43 ty ty all 13:45:57 haha 13:46:03 haha, yeh, autocomplete helps, but it doesn't work as well with matrix usernames I guess 13:46:15 guess not. 13:46:17 I wonder if it can also take matrix usernames as argument now, given that we can specify them in FAS 🤔 13:46:20 so #Open Floor for the rest of the time 13:46:27 #topic Open Floor 13:46:27 so I have this: https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/374 13:46:36 for open floor. 13:46:57 oo, awesome! 13:47:14 I did create a container image in parallel to our lab image, but I haven't updated it in a while.. 13:47:28 I'd like to take on mapping it over to a cloud image. 13:47:46 well if it does not take to much work, i don't see why not always great with more options 13:47:48 #info davdunc is lookinginto mapping our comp-neuro image into a cloud image 13:47:52 that'll be awesome! 13:48:00 here's what we have in terms of containers so far: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/neurofedora/containers/ 13:48:03 I think it will be pretty simple. 13:48:21 If I run into issues, small or large, I'd like to push them to the neuro queue. 13:48:43 Yes, please, that'll be great 13:48:44 I'll still work them, but looking forward to making it as collaborative and informed as possible. 13:49:01 davdunc: Good idea 13:49:33 davdunc: please do let us know if we can help in any way at all 13:49:45 .thank ankursinha 13:49:45 NishantMishra [m] thinks ankursinha is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type ankursinha++ since that is what gives them a cookie) 13:49:48 (I'd also like us to have labs for data analysis/neuro imaging once we have enough packages added) 13:49:56 ankursinha++ 13:50:19 you've probably already given me a cookie, only one cookie per release :( 13:50:29 not yet 13:50:33 but ok 13:50:45 btw will you be attending nest? 13:50:47 #info NeuroFedora cloud image: https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/374 13:50:48 FranciscoD_: labs are a great way to work on a project in early days of participation too! 13:51:04 s/nest/hatch 2022/ 13:51:06 Nishant Mishra: not sure yet, I need to see how it fits in with $dayjob :( 13:51:17 davdunc: yeh! 👍️ 13:51:19 its on a weekend 13:51:27 NishantMishra[m], yep i will, even thinking of maybe having an IRL event in Stockholm, but its still in the planning stages if not i will attend online 13:51:30 then I need to see how it fits in with $personal life XD 13:51:35 its both on $workdays and weekend 13:51:37 Thursday-Sunday 13:51:46 it's always a balance! 13:51:49 first Thursday-Sunday in August 13:52:01 bittin: i was talking about Hatch 2022 July 13:52:14 I will be there for both Nest and Hatch :D 13:52:16 Yeh: nowadays time away from screens has become quite important. Spending far too much time at screens :/ 13:52:28 Hatches are in June or July depending on people who hosts them, Hatch are IRL events 13:52:34 yes 13:52:36 and when and where they are is decided end of April 13:52:49 I along with akashdeep and vipul are planning one at Pune 13:52:52 let's see how that goes, if at all possible, we should all try to attend events and get together :) 13:53:07 Nishant Mishra: that'll be really great for the Indian community 13:53:12 yep 13:53:19 NishantMishra[m], ah, Pune, Mexico and maybe Stockholm then is the one i know about 13:53:35 only if I had the budget to attend foreign events : 13:53:40 * events :( 13:54:04 I don't think anyone from the UK community has proposed one yet---more likely for something to happen in EU I guess 13:54:16 but maybe not in the coming months.. 13:54:28 eh come to India Mate :D 13:54:50 You can suggest your event here until end of April: https://pagure.io/flock/issues 13:55:10 NishantMishra[m], would be good if you, Vipul etc added the Indian event there, if you want money sponsoring from Red Hat fyi 13:55:17 NishantMishra[m]: far too expensive at the moment: ~800£ for a return ticket! 13:55:26 here's the compneuro container sources by the way: https://src.fedoraproject.org/container/compneuro 13:55:33 I couldn't find them for a bit 13:55:39 FranciscoD_: thanks. 13:55:42 bittin: Vipul was the one who was supposed to do it 13:55:53 good just wanted to remind you 13:56:09 I don't think containers get re-built the way packages do each release, so I may need to bump and rebuild it at some point 13:56:30 #action FranciscoD_ look into whether container image needs to be rebuilt for F36+ again 13:57:22 does the CPE have a room like Nuero does? 13:57:32 yep 13:57:39 davdunc: I don't know enough about the cloud images, but if you already have some info on using our packages on the existing Fedora cloud images, please feel free to add it to the docs for our users 13:57:51 #redhat-cpe on irc.libera.chat 13:58:12 @FranciscoD_ ack! I'll review and see what I can add just for the basic setup. 13:58:14 this is redhat as a whole and not fedora only? 13:58:33 NishantMishra[m]: it's a specific team in Red Hat. 13:58:45 they are the ones that help us keep the lights on. 13:59:03 okay got it 13:59:36 not sure if they have a Matrix room but think you can connect to Libera IRC via Matrix in some way 13:59:46 it's 59 past, we'll close on the hour mark---awesome to start and end right on time :D 14:00:10 great meetings FranciscoD_ looking forward to the next. 14:00:15 cool, thanks for coming everyone :) 14:00:24 #redhat-cpe:libera.chat if you want to use Matrix 14:00:33 Same here 14:00:34 thanks for coming bittin davdunc Nishant Mishra : hope it was useful :) 14:00:43 very much so! 14:00:48 thanks yourself :) 14:00:49 if there's anything else before the next meeting, please ping us on the channels/lists/pagure etc :) 14:00:52 #endmeeting