13:01:08 <FranciscoD_> #startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2022-12-05
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13:01:12 <FranciscoD_> #meetingname neurofedora
13:01:12 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora'
13:01:23 <FranciscoD_> #info Agenda is here: https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/12/05/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-5-december-1300-utc.html
13:01:37 <FranciscoD_> #topic Introductions and roll call
13:01:48 <FranciscoD_> we'll wait ~5 minutes here for everyone to join in.
13:02:01 <davdunc[m> .hello davdunc
13:02:02 <zodbot> davdunc[m: davdunc 'David Duncan' <davdunc@amazon.com>
13:02:52 <FranciscoD_> #chair davdunc
13:02:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD_ davdunc
13:02:56 <FranciscoD_> o/
13:03:12 <davdunc[m> :) Hi Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD@fedora) !
13:04:05 <davdunc[m> I don't have anything special today, but wanted to join in!
13:06:55 <FranciscoD_> sure thing---we'll just go through the agenda. I don't have anything special to report either :)
13:07:07 <FranciscoD_> #topic Tasks from last week
13:07:23 <FranciscoD_> #info Last meeting logs are here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2022-11-21/neurofedora.2022-11-21-13.00.html
13:07:34 <FranciscoD_> #info all tasks done
13:07:41 <FranciscoD_> #topic Open pagure tickets
13:08:01 <FranciscoD_> #info Any tickets marked for review are here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
13:08:41 <vivekdcn[m]> Hi,
13:08:41 <vivekdcn[m]> In the last meeting I mentioned about any potential software for TMS/TUS. All I could find was this.
13:08:41 <vivekdcn[m]> https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/Neuro-Stimulation/issue/1
13:09:49 <FranciscoD_> oo, awesome. Let me find the sources
13:09:53 <FranciscoD_> #info NeuroMeasure: https://github.com/EdwardsLabNeuroSci/NeuroMeasure
13:10:06 <FranciscoD_> hrm, vivekdcn : github says it's a matlab based tool
13:10:07 <Penguinpee> .hello gui1ty
13:10:08 <zodbot> Penguinpee: gui1ty 'Sandro .' <gui1ty@penguinpee.nl>
13:10:21 <vivekdcn[m]> FranciscoD_: Yes, it is.
13:10:37 <FranciscoD_> So unless it supports octave, we can't really include it. MatLab is proprietary, and we can't include proprietary software or software that cannot function without proprietary software
13:10:44 <vanessa_kris[m]> Hello everyone
13:10:52 <FranciscoD_> #chair vivekdcn vanessa_kris Penguinpee
13:10:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD_ Penguinpee davdunc vanessa_kris vivekdcn
13:11:11 <vivekdcn[m]> Yes, I just mentioned since I could not find any other resources but I'm still on it.
13:11:36 <Penguinpee> hi. a bit late...
13:12:06 <FranciscoD_> hi Penguinpee , no worries, just started
13:12:27 <FranciscoD_> vivekdcn: ok, cool. let us know if/when you run into more bits and we can look at including them
13:13:04 <FranciscoD_> #info NeuroMeasure is matlab based and so cannot be included in Fedora (unless it supports Octave, but there's no info on this in the readme)
13:14:16 <FranciscoD_> no other tickets to discuss this week
13:14:22 <FranciscoD_> #info No tickets to discuss this week
13:16:25 <FranciscoD_> #topic Package health check
13:16:31 <vivekdcn[m]> I just saw Pytorch on issues. I'm not sure if we have this already integrated. https://monai.io/
13:16:51 <vivekdcn[m]> this medical imaging developed on Pytorch
13:17:48 <Penguinpee> Pytorch requires proprietary graphics drivers (nvidia)
13:18:27 <vivekdcn[m]> Oops!
13:18:55 <FranciscoD_> see https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/534
13:18:59 <FranciscoD_> I just added it to the docs too
13:19:16 <FranciscoD_> let's look at our packages
13:19:36 <FranciscoD_> #info The Neuro-SIG packages dashboard is here: https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig
13:20:09 <FranciscoD_> #info We prioritise FTBFS/FTI bugs since they prevent packages from being used by users. These are followed by general bugs, and new updates/feature requests
13:22:06 <vivekdcn[m]> I will check and update in next meeting, since I remember using MONAI without nvidia GPU.
13:22:26 <FranciscoD_> #info More information on FTBFS/FTI bugs: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/#_package_removal_for_long_standing_ftbfs_and_fti_bugs
13:22:33 <FranciscoD_> vivekdcn: sounds good
13:23:29 <FranciscoD_> Looks like we have a few packages that are currently FTBFS---they'll fail to build when the next build occurs
13:24:53 <Penguinpee> most of them appear to be failing for s390x
13:25:23 <FranciscoD_> I think that's a bug in the dashboard. It doesn't tackle excludearch very well from what I remember
13:25:49 <FranciscoD_> https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/packager_dashboard/issue/81
13:26:50 <FranciscoD_> Looking at the ticket, I think we're to open tickets for our packages so they can be overridden in the config
13:27:10 <Penguinpee> anything in particular that needs looking into?
13:30:36 <FranciscoD_> I don't think so. Excluding the koschei fails from the list doesn't leave too many FTBFS bugs
13:30:51 <FranciscoD_> not ones we aren't already aware of and working on (like odml)
13:31:07 <FranciscoD_> Lots of new versions out, so maybe we focus on updating our packages?
13:31:56 <Penguinpee> i'll have a look
13:32:13 <FranciscoD_> cool, me too
13:32:25 <FranciscoD_> a lot of them are python packages, so they should be simple ones to update
13:32:46 <FranciscoD_> also feel free to mark them as "Trivial" in the whiteboard---that should get them listed on the easyfix website
13:33:14 <Penguinpee> will do
13:33:34 <FranciscoD_> #info For any easy bugzilla tickets that newcomers can work on, add "EasyFix" or "Trivial" to the "Whiteboard" for the bug: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Easyfix
13:34:23 <music[m]> hello
13:34:33 <FranciscoD_> hi music !
13:34:37 <FranciscoD_> #chair music
13:34:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD_ Penguinpee davdunc music vanessa_kris vivekdcn
13:35:21 <FranciscoD_> #info Packages are in good health. A few are marked FTBFS by Koschei so worth working on as they'll fail the next time they're built. Lots of our packages have new versions out, so please do go through them and update them when you have the cycles.
13:35:40 <FranciscoD_> music: any bugs you think need highlighting?
13:36:27 <music[m]> not at the moment, no
13:37:44 <music[m]> biggest neuro sig related thing i’ve been working on is helping out with a big pandas update, https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-pandas/pull-request/13
13:38:08 <FranciscoD_> Yeh, i saw that. Thanks for helping with that.
13:39:36 <FranciscoD_> music++
13:39:36 <zodbot> FranciscoD_: Karma for music changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:39:38 <FranciscoD_> .thank music
13:39:39 <zodbot> FranciscoD_ thinks music is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type music++ since that is what gives them a cookie)
13:40:27 <vivekdcn[m]> music++
13:40:41 <FranciscoD_> folks, FYI: everyone can use these commands. As long as your FAS has your irc/matrix username correctly linked, you can use them
13:40:45 <FranciscoD_> .fasinfo vivekdcn
13:40:46 <zodbot> FranciscoD_: Sorry, but user 'vivekdcn' does not exist
13:40:57 <FranciscoD_> uh, what's your FAS username vivekdcn ?
13:41:06 <vivekdcn[m]> viveks
13:41:14 <FranciscoD_> have you noted your irc/matrix username in FAS? Otherwise the bot can't figure out who is giving the cookie
13:41:20 <FranciscoD_> .fasinfo viveks
13:41:21 <zodbot> FranciscoD_: User: viveks, Name: Vivek Sharma, Email: vivek.sharma1510@gmail.com, Creation: 2017-01-25T18:02:55, IRC Nicks: None, Timezone: Europe/Amsterdam, Locale: nl-NL, GPG Key IDs: None, Status: None
13:41:24 <zodbot> FranciscoD_: Groups:
13:41:41 <FranciscoD_> ah, doesn't look like it. ^
13:41:51 <FranciscoD_> #topic Open package reviews
13:42:07 <FranciscoD_> #info All Neuro-SIG review tickets should block the tracker ticket so that all group members receive notifications: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
13:42:10 <Penguinpee> phantom cookies. as far as i can tell no cookies have been awarded recently.
13:42:35 <FranciscoD_> I think they are awarded, but the badges website needs some love
13:42:47 <FranciscoD_> I think folks are working on that too, but I haven't checked recently
13:43:08 <FranciscoD_> #info In the tracker bug, click "show advanced fields" and then look at the list of tickets in "depends on"
13:43:38 <FranciscoD_> aha, there's one ticket that needs review:
13:43:55 <Penguinpee> 🤐
13:44:15 <FranciscoD_> #info https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2150221 python-opytimizer: needs review
13:44:37 <FranciscoD_> viveks++
13:44:37 <zodbot> FranciscoD_: Karma for viveks changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:44:40 <FranciscoD_> vanessa_kris++
13:44:40 <zodbot> FranciscoD_: Karma for vanessakris changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:44:56 <FranciscoD_> penguinpee++
13:45:34 <FranciscoD_> #topic Compose check for rawhide (what will become F38)
13:45:40 <FranciscoD_> #info task on Koji here: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
13:45:51 <FranciscoD_> #info All green ticks---compose ticking along well currently
13:46:16 <FranciscoD_> #topic Neuroscience query of the week
13:46:32 <FranciscoD_> #info Anything science/neuroscience related that you think is worth sharing with the group can be noted here
13:47:09 <FranciscoD_> there was this---more for funding bodies than us: https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1010627
13:48:36 <FranciscoD_> I remember seeing a study on how COVID causes loss of smell. Let me see if I can find it
13:49:44 <FranciscoD_> I can't seem to find it. I'll put it on the ticket if/when I do
13:50:09 <FranciscoD_> nothing else to share at the moment
13:50:42 <vivekdcn[m]> https://hms.harvard.edu/news/how-covid-19-causes-loss-smell
13:50:51 <vivekdcn[m]> I have had read this one.
13:51:03 <FranciscoD_> yeh, there was a new research paper out just recently
13:51:21 <vivekdcn[m]> Interesting
13:51:33 <FranciscoD_> checking my rss feeds, maybe it's in there somehwere
13:51:55 <FranciscoD_> ah, here we are
13:51:56 <FranciscoD_> https://www.cell.com/trends/neurosciences/fulltext/S0166-2236(22)00234-X?rss=yes
13:52:46 <vivekdcn[m]> Cool
13:53:07 <FranciscoD_> #topic Next meeting day, and chair
13:53:38 <FranciscoD_> when are folks on holiday?
13:53:48 <FranciscoD_> I guess best to skip the 19th---very close to Christmas
13:53:59 <FranciscoD_> How's 9th Jan?
13:53:59 <vivekdcn[m]> agree
13:54:08 <vivekdcn[m]> Sounds good
13:54:26 <FranciscoD_> music: vanessa_kris davdunc Penguinpee : 9th Jan for next meeting?
13:54:31 <Penguinpee> 9th is okay, but that shifts things by a week
13:54:43 <FranciscoD_> 16th then?
13:54:49 <FranciscoD_> i.e., we skip 2 meetings?
13:55:22 <Penguinpee> yeah, stick to the uneven weeks
13:55:34 <FranciscoD_> cool. sounds good
13:55:55 <FranciscoD_> #agreed Next meeting on 16th January, 2023
13:56:04 <FranciscoD_> I think that's all for today
13:56:10 <FranciscoD_> #topic Open floor
13:56:16 <FranciscoD_> 4 minutes for anything else :)
13:56:22 <Penguinpee> oh, we shift to even weeks after all, according to my calendar. but we stick to the bi-weekly rhythm.
13:57:54 <FranciscoD_> yeh, it'll move about a bit depending on how many mondays end up in a month I guess
13:58:47 <Penguinpee> it also depends on the counting of (full) weeks, which differs per region/country.
13:59:03 <FranciscoD_> +1
13:59:13 <FranciscoD_> we can tweak it whenver required, no problem there
13:59:54 <Penguinpee> sure. have a nice holiday, everyone.
14:00:13 <FranciscoD_> Happy holidays everyone. I hope you manage to get some rest to recharge :)
14:00:22 <FranciscoD_> see you all in the new year
14:00:28 <FranciscoD_> #info Happy holidays, and happy new year!
14:00:31 <FranciscoD_> #endmeeting