2024-01-15 13:03:27 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2024-01-15
2024-01-15 13:03:28 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-01-15 13:03:27 UTC
2024-01-15 13:03:28 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'NeuroFedora - 2024-01-15'
2024-01-15 13:03:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Agenda is here: https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2024/01/15/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-15-january-1300-utc.html
2024-01-15 13:03:47 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Introductions and roll call
2024-01-15 13:03:54 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !group members neuro-sig
2024-01-15 13:03:55 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Members of neuro-sig: Ali Erdinc Koroglu, alciregi, anilbey, Ankur Sinha, blackfile, bt0dotninja, fangq, gicmo, Sandro ., hardeborlaa, ignatenkobrain, ilgrad, iztokf, lbazan, Maíra Canal, Aniket Pradhan, mhough, Benjamin Beasley, Josh Santos, sagitter, sergiopr, shaneallcroft, vanessakris, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
2024-01-15 13:04:04 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-15 13:04:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Sandro . (gui1ty)
2024-01-15 13:04:11 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !hello
2024-01-15 13:04:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Ankur Sinha (ankursinha) - he / him / his
2024-01-15 13:04:43 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD@fedora) (he/him/his): Don't you need to set a meeting name?
2024-01-15 13:05:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !meetingname neurofedora
2024-01-15 13:05:20 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'm not sure tbh. I thought when I'd done it last time, it had changed the URL to the logs
2024-01-15 13:06:02 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> On IRC is used to modify the channel topic, iirc. Not sure that's relevant to Matrix.
2024-01-15 13:06:28 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Yeh, doesn't seem to do that here, but maybe used by meetbot for archival perhaps
2024-01-15 13:07:44 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> let's see how it goes today and that'll tell  us
2024-01-15 13:07:51 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Tasks from last meeting
2024-01-15 13:08:09 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I believe meetbot needs elevated privileges to change the room topic. There was some discussion about it on infr I believe.
2024-01-15 13:08:19 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I believe meetbot needs elevated privileges to change the room topic. There was some discussion about it on infra I believe.
2024-01-15 13:08:26 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> ah, right, yeh, that makes sense
2024-01-15 13:08:33 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Minutes from last meeting are here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/neuro_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2023-12-04/neurofedora-2023-12-04.2023-12-04-13.02.html
2024-01-15 13:08:48 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Ankur: set up fedocal reminder, then forward manually to other groups and discussion.fp.o -> DONE
2024-01-15 13:09:02 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> although, I didn't put it on discussion.fp.o today. I'll do that from next meeting too
2024-01-15 13:09:14 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Ankur start non-responsive maintainer process for python-pebble maintainer -> DONE
2024-01-15 13:09:24 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Penguinpee speak to design/mindshare etc. about unique logos for the meeting rooms on matrix to make it easier for folks to get to them

2024-01-15 13:09:30 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Anything here to report Penguinpee ?
2024-01-15 13:09:53 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Nothing substantial. I forgot. 😊
2024-01-15 13:10:06 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> no problem, should I reassign this to you?
2024-01-15 13:10:15 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Yes, please.
2024-01-15 13:10:21 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Penguinpee speak to design/mindshare etc. about unique logos for the meeting rooms on matrix to make it easier for folks to get to them
2024-01-15 13:10:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Josh Santos check to see if an issue about authentication errors in ipsilon has been filed; file new if not

2024-01-15 13:10:51 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> don't think Josh is in here, let me invite them
2024-01-15 13:12:01 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I haven't seen any issues with ipsilon, so I think this issue is fixed. If we come across it again, we can look into it again
2024-01-15 13:12:10 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Josh Santos check to see if an issue about authentication errors in ipsilon has been filed; file new if not -> seems to be fixed anyway
2024-01-15 13:12:18 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Penguinpee close TIFF CVES as "wontfix" because it is unclear if the ancient version of libtiff bundled in NEURON is affected, and b) it's such a niche package that we can't really do much about it

2024-01-15 13:12:25 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I think this is done now, right?
2024-01-15 13:12:34 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> That's done, yes.
2024-01-15 13:12:39 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Penguinpee close TIFF CVES as "wontfix" because it is unclear if the ancient version of libtiff bundled in NEURON is affected, and b) it's such a niche package that we can't really do much about it -> DONE
2024-01-15 13:13:04 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Those are all the action items, let's have a quick look at the pagure tix:
2024-01-15 13:13:09 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Open tickets
2024-01-15 13:13:12 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
2024-01-15 13:14:23 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/567 -> Issue #567: Set monitoring status in dist-git to "Monitoring" for packages using Packit -> tracker ticket, will stay open
2024-01-15 13:14:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/566 -> updating STEPS
2024-01-15 13:15:00 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Penguinpee: I think this needs a few of us to look at the compilation issues, right?
2024-01-15 13:15:25 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Yes. I fixed the sources issue. Should be reproducible now.
2024-01-15 13:15:32 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> it's on my TODO list, once I've figured out the compilation issues in vxl..
2024-01-15 13:16:04 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/566 -> updating STEPS -> running into compilation issues -> NEEDS COMMENTS
2024-01-15 13:16:19 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action everyone please look at https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/566 and see if you can help out with the compilation issues there
2024-01-15 13:16:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/563 -> python packages bundling js
2024-01-15 13:16:55 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> we're leaning towards dropping these because bundling the bits is just too much work
2024-01-15 13:17:23 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I've left it open for now, but I guess I'll e-mail the python-dev list once to double check, and if we can't keep em, we'll drop em
2024-01-15 13:17:34 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Ankur e-mail python-dev list about https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/563 
2024-01-15 13:18:04 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action everyone retire/orphan python packages that bundle js etc if we can't find a way to keep em (https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/563)
2024-01-15 13:18:17 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> You skipped over #564, which just needs to be closed.
2024-01-15 13:18:43 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> You just did that. I needed a refresh ...
2024-01-15 13:18:51 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> ah, yeh, the one about the meeting 
2024-01-15 13:18:57 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/548 -> VXL
2024-01-15 13:19:17 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I've got to a stage where I get compilation errors at 90% compilation---they appear to be zlib related too, so I need to dig in a bit more
2024-01-15 13:19:29 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Should hopefully have it done by the next meeting, one way or the other
2024-01-15 13:20:13 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/548 -> VXL update and license audit: WIP (running into compilation errors)
2024-01-15 13:20:27 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Packages health check
2024-01-15 13:20:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Neuro-sig packager dashboard is here: https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig
2024-01-15 13:21:23 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Hrm, https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-maya -> orphaned, but it's one of ours
2024-01-15 13:21:55 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> "do not use it anymore", OK
2024-01-15 13:22:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but I guess we need to remove neuro-sig from it then..
2024-01-15 13:22:24 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but how...? will I have to take it over to remove neuro-sig and then re-orphan it?
2024-01-15 13:22:33 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> The dashboard appears to be broken still. E.g. Koschei does not report any issues for `python-lsp-server`.
2024-01-15 13:23:13 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> That's one option. The other is waiting for retirement.
2024-01-15 13:23:57 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I'd just let it go to retirement.
2024-01-15 13:24:53 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Yeh, probably the best thing to do. I've filed https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/568 for folks to weigh in anyway
2024-01-15 13:25:04 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action everyone comment on https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/568 -> about python-maya
2024-01-15 13:25:55 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> let's look at any FTI/FTBFS bugs first, we kinda only have 5 minutes left ..
2024-01-15 13:26:58 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Uh, we have a few orphan impacted packages too...
2024-01-15 13:28:03 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Mostly due to one of the google packages. I still fail to see the connection. I believe it's an intermediate package and @music had a plan of geting rid of that dependency. I forgot which package, though.
2024-01-15 13:28:04 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> do we just keep taking on the packages we depend on? I can't think of another way to save our packages at the moment..
2024-01-15 13:28:37 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh, I think that's the case for papermill IIRC
2024-01-15 13:28:54 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Also for `python-plotnine`.
2024-01-15 13:29:07 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but we also have cattrs and pyswarms etc, which depend on python-Pympler
2024-01-15 13:29:24 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Uh, I need to run, my work meeting is starting.
2024-01-15 13:29:33 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I'll dig into it and talk to music about the google dependency.
2024-01-15 13:30:00 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I'll take over then. Good luck!
2024-01-15 13:30:13 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Penguinpee: do you want to go over the packages quickly just to see if there are any urgent ones and then close the meeting?
2024-01-15 13:30:28 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Fine by me.
2024-01-15 13:30:38 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> thanks, sorry about that. We have a grant interview next week so things are a bit busy
2024-01-15 13:31:03 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I think most of the FTBFS/FTI are flukes.
2024-01-15 13:31:19 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Koschei doesn't show any issues, but the dashboard does.
2024-01-15 13:32:04 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I can drill into it and make a list of what really needs to be actioned. I can do the same for the orphan impact packages.
2024-01-15 13:34:06 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !action Penguinpee: Look into packages listed as FTBF/FTI on dashboard. Check if Koschei reports any issues. Inquire why information on dashboard is not in sync with Koschei.
2024-01-15 13:35:40 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !action Penguinpee: Check orphan impacted packages and figure out what action we need to take. Consult with music regarding `google-crc32c`.
2024-01-15 13:36:49 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !info `snakemake` might be the intermediate package needing attention regarding `python-google-crc32c`.
2024-01-15 13:37:42 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Since this meeting turned from a friendly one on one chat into a one man show, I will close early in a few minutes.
2024-01-15 13:38:04 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !topic Next meeting
2024-01-15 13:38:48 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !info Next meeting will be in two weeks, 2024-01-29 13:00 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org (Matrix)
2024-01-15 13:40:06 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !info Ankur will chair the next meeting if available, otherwise Penguinpee will.
2024-01-15 13:40:19 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !endmeeting