14:00:14 #startmeeting POSSE Meeting 1 14:00:14 Meeting started Wed Nov 14 14:00:14 2018 UTC. 14:00:14 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 14:00:14 The chair is stoney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:14 The meeting name has been set to 'posse_meeting_1' 14:00:25 #chair darci Heidiellis kussmaul hislopg 14:00:25 Current chairs: Heidiellis darci hislopg kussmaul stoney 14:00:39 Hi everyone, welcome to our first IRC meeting for POSSE! :) 14:00:57 #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_1 contains the agenda for this meeting 14:01:13 #topic Introductions 14:01:26 Let's begin with introductions. Use #info when introducing yourself. I'll go first to demonstrate. 14:01:36 #info Stoney Jackson, Western New England University, one of the POSSE organizers 14:02:00 So if you'll be participating in this meeting please #info up your introduction :) 14:02:07 #info Hi all, I'm Darci Burdge and I'm a faculty member at Nassau Community College in Garden City, New York. I'm one of the organizers of POSSE. 14:02:28 Hi darci ! :) 14:02:32 Hey! 14:02:34 Steven Fulakeza, Lehman College and I teach in the Computer Science Department. 14:02:43 Welcome steve_ ! 14:02:53 #info Patricia Morreale, Kean University, POSSE attendee (participant), teaching CS 14:03:02 Welcome Patricia_ ! 14:03:06 #info Hi, I'm Clif Kussmaul, POSSE organizer and POGIL evangelist, at Muhlenberg College 14:03:19 Hi Clif ! 14:03:33 oops... should use nick... hi kussmaul ! :) 14:03:37 #info Hi! I'm Lori Postner and I also teach at Nassau Community College (Garden City, NY). I'm one of the POSSE organizers. I'll have to leave the meeting early to go to another meeting. 14:03:45 Hi lorip ! 14:04:01 wow is the whole POSSE team on this morning?! 14:04:33 I'm just lurking :) 14:04:42 ah... 14:04:44 cool 14:05:03 well I was going to say... it looks like we'll have several lurkers today, and that's normal 14:05:38 ok, i'll assume that everyone who is going to participate has info'd up 14:05:46 #topic IRC and Meetbot basics 14:06:05 The agenda contains a short list of IRC and Meetbot command 14:06:23 as well as links to more complete documentation for each. 14:06:33 Let's play with some of them. 14:06:44 Lines that start with / are IRC commands. 14:07:07 For example, /me allows you to emote a physical action. 14:07:17 * stoney jumps up and down with excitement 14:07:21 like that 14:07:28 :) 14:07:35 feel free to try things out as we go 14:07:51 also, please feel free to ask questions as we go 14:07:56 * Patricia_ nodding head 14:08:05 awesome :) 14:08:10 * darci thinking that eva_ missed introductions... 14:08:17 Hi eva_ 14:08:32 hi :-) 14:08:42 hi eva_ ! 14:09:02 could you please info up your introductions like this... 14:09:04 #info Stoney Jackson, Western New England University, one of the POSSE organizers 14:09:30 #info Eva Sofianos, Lehman College CUNY, meeting participant 14:09:45 awesome, thanks! 14:09:53 so we were playing with some IRC commands 14:10:06 * lorip wondering where is Lehman College? 14:10:09 You can use, /nick to change your nickname. 14:10:21 so now I'm jackson 14:10:33 back to stoney :) 14:10:59 folks will often add an underscore to their nick to indicate that they are away from their keyboard 14:11:09 like that 14:11:31 and of course remove the underscore when they are present 14:12:19 Question for participants: Have you used IRC before? 14:12:20 some clients will respond to commands like /away and /back which will do this for you 14:12:39 nick steve1 14:12:53 steve_ put a / before the nick 14:13:05 steve_ so /nick 14:13:20 steve_ and make sure it is the first thing on the line 14:13:44 * steve_ waves hello 14:13:57 * stoney grins proudly 14:14:41 as mentioned before, there is a short list of IRC commands on our adenda (http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_1) 14:14:42 * steve_ :) 14:14:48 * evas found the list of commands 14:14:53 the agenda also has links to more complete lists 14:15:31 I am trying to change my nick back to Patricia and I am being told that it is already in use. Is it possible to go back to an earlier nickname in the same session? 14:15:45 you should be able to 14:15:53 however, some nicks are reserved 14:16:06 Good to know. 14:16:20 which means that someone has created a permanent nick that is password protected 14:16:33 so maybe someone has Patricia? 14:16:54 I think you had Patricia_ - try that 14:17:17 right... your client may have given you Patricia with an underscore because Patricia was taken 14:17:39 But now it looks like she is away... 14:18:00 so before we play with meetbots, what questions do you have about IRC? 14:18:06 what does my nick look like when I go away? 14:18:24 if you leave the channel, you just don't appear 14:18:37 I am not able to get Patricia_ back either....told that is registered as well... will work on later... 14:18:37 I think it depends on the client. 14:18:48 if you are talking about the /away command 14:18:49 I meant marked as away, not leave the channel 14:18:51 what darci said 14:19:09 same here - I can't get back eva1 and was never able to get eva 14:19:13 an underscore after the name is the usual indicator for away 14:19:36 But now it does look like I got it back... and it does look like I'm away! Again, homework ... 14:19:43 evas you were never eva1 on my screen... only eva_ 14:20:03 it says already in use 14:20:17 doesn't like me :-( hahaha no worries I'll be evas 14:20:24 Patricia_ I suspect your client is hiding the fact that there is an _ at the end of your name 14:20:48 now it likes me :-) 14:20:50 now you have it :) 14:21:07 * eva1 woohooing 14:21:11 lol 14:21:16 so meetbots? 14:21:37 you'll notice zodbot as a member of this channel 14:21:42 zodbot is not a human 14:21:54 it is a program sitting on this channel 14:22:12 it responds to lines that begin with # 14:22:29 so at the beginning of this meeting, I used #startmeeting 14:22:42 when zodbot saw this, it started recording this meeting 14:23:01 it is keeping detailed minutes as well as a summary of the meeting 14:23:04 #topic today’s weather 14:23:23 ok... not all commands are available to everyone 14:23:34 whoever started the meeting is the chair of the meeting 14:23:47 some commands, like #topic, only work for a chair 14:23:55 you can add other chairs to the meeting with #chair 14:24:14 #chair steve1 14:24:16 that's important to do, because only a chair can end the meeting #endmeeting 14:24:36 the #chair command is only available to chairs :) 14:24:44 #chair steve1 14:24:44 Current chairs: Heidiellis darci hislopg kussmaul steve1 stoney 14:24:54 :( 14:25:09 at the beginning of this meeting I added darci (and several others) as chair 14:25:18 :) 14:25:19 that way if I get disconnected 14:25:24 they can still run the meeting 14:25:29 and more importantly, end it 14:25:41 And I just added steve1, 14:25:44 now there are several commands available to everyone 14:26:00 commands like #link, #info, and #action 14:26:13 these elevate the line to the summary 14:26:20 also #agree 14:26:46 so if you want to make sure something important goes into the summary, use #info, #link, #action, or #agree 14:26:52 for example 14:27:07 #agree we will use #agree to mark decisions we make during the meeting 14:27:29 feel free to try those out 14:27:46 #info you can find more commands on http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html 14:27:59 you'll see the results at the end of the meeting when the meetbot publishes the minutes and the summary to a website 14:28:09 awesome steve1 14:28:29 for links like that, you might try #link 14:28:40 #info this is good information to have! Thanks for sharing. 14:28:57 you got it Patricia_ ! 14:28:59 #link here's a link to a previous meeting summary https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/foss2serve/2018-06-15/posse_meeting_3.2018-06-15-15.05.html 14:29:10 So you can see what it looks like! 14:29:38 #help 14:30:01 wanted to see if zodbot would provide help to itself... it doesn't :) 14:30:15 thanks Darci! 14:30:29 I forgot to mention something about nicks.... 14:30:48 if you want to get someones attention, put their nick in your statment 14:31:10 thanks stoney 14:31:15 most clients will beep, flash, and/or highlight the line with the nick in their name 14:31:29 so if they are on another screen, you'll get their attention 14:31:39 eva1 exactly like that! :) 14:32:00 I am getting red highlights on statements with my name, stoney 14:32:04 nice! I see your nick in red on the line you called me out :-) got it! thanks for the demo 14:32:09 it also helps to include their nick if you are directing a statement at them 14:32:22 it helps folks follow the simultaneous conversations 14:32:32 Patricia_ perfect :) 14:33:03 the exact notification is client dependent, and often configurable 14:33:27 ok... so what questions are lingering about IRC or the meetbot? 14:34:06 None from me, stoney, just practice needed, which I'm sure is coming :) 14:34:24 right :) 14:34:38 ok... on to the next topic then 14:34:54 #topic HFOSS projects 14:35:18 So I think we are pretty early in the stage 1 activities 14:35:30 darci can you help me out here 14:35:33 ? 14:35:57 what should folks be doing, thinking about for HFOSS projects at this point in time? 14:36:14 Sorry, I was looking for somerthing! 14:36:39 np :) 14:36:59 Part B is where we ask participants to start thinkng abou this 14:37:09 I found, in the HFOSS Communities page, three projects. (Firefox Dev Tools, Open Food Facts, and Ushahidi). Are we limited to those 3 projects for January? 14:37:39 But, I'm guessing that most have already begun thinking about how they will incorporate HFOSS into their courses...yes? 14:37:56 * stoney looks to darci hoping she can answer Patricia_ :) 14:38:08 You are not limited to those... 14:38:12 * stoney likes emotes 14:38:28 Yes, darci , confirmed on thinking about 'how to' use in class. 14:38:29 We try to select a few so that we can focus effort while at the workshop 14:38:56 We sometimes form groups around projects, and sometimes form groups around courses 14:39:30 Great stoney good to know ... I'll look more closely at the 3 offered, but will also see if anything else is exciting. If I see something, perhaps I'll see if I can get others interested before, so a group is possible. 14:39:45 Absolutely no promises! 14:39:50 We always have a special interest in working with humanitarian projects as we believe that this increases engagement 14:40:17 Yes darci, I agree. Good suggestion. 14:40:44 Patricia_ is there a particular language or platform you are interested in? 14:41:32 lorip Java and Python would be of interest to my students. Otherwise no preferences. 14:42:40 open food facts has an android app which is in java - my recollection is that ushahidi is in python (but don't quote me on that!) 14:43:04 bye all - need to get to my next meeting... 14:43:12 Good to know lorip Thanks! 14:43:15 bye lorip and thanks! 14:43:40 before I forget, please remember to provide short comments on the stage 1 activities by logging your progress. 14:43:41 going to leave myself as away so I can catch up when I get back to my office... 14:43:47 #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HvgclSLZE4f1fDrw9S7ywP6MrMsAaWjWXATQ3W7H3Wg/edit#gid=0 page for logging Stage 1 comments 14:43:56 lorip cool :) 14:44:54 ok... so I think we are at the end of our agenda 14:45:10 any last thoughts, questions, etc. before I end the meeting? 14:45:32 No, this has been very useful stoney 14:45:43 Thanks stoney! Great meeting! 14:45:46 again... when I end it... zodbot will publish the minutes and provide links to them.... so cool 14:45:58 This has been informative and useful indeed. 14:46:09 thanks! 14:46:10 great, glad it was useful! 14:46:20 see you all next time :) 14:46:22 #endmeeting