=========================== #teachingopensource Meeting =========================== Meeting started by mchua at 12:13:14 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teachingopensource/2010-06-14/posse_rit_monday.2010-06-14-12.13.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT#Topic_Schedule (mchua, 12:57:29) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT#Monday (mchua, 12:57:34) * Introduction to POSSE (mchua, 13:01:59) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org - TOS - a community of people interested in teaching students how to participate as contributors in FOSS communities. (mchua, 13:02:55) * What is FOSS? (mchua, 13:03:23) * Participant answer: FOSS is sharing source (mchua, 13:04:38) * Participant answer: FOSS has a distributed, diverse group of people behind that source (code) (mchua, 13:04:51) * Chris: There's also the "open" part of open source - which is that anyone can get involved in these projects. (mchua, 13:05:57) * Chris is recapping a brief history of FOSS - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source if you're catching up from backlogs. (It doesn't have everything Chris is talking about, but will give you a reasonably good overview.) (mchua, 13:08:43) * Our teaching model: wild immersion rather than sequential scaffolding. You're learning how to be productively lost - confused, but working independently on Getting Stuff Done nevertheless. (mchua, 13:14:49) * FOSS is messy. The world is messy. There aren't answers in the back of the book. This is all the same stuff you tell your students, most likely - and we're going to be doing it to *you* this week. ;) (mchua, 13:15:13) * If you get lost or stuck, reach out for help beyond yourself - it's your social/communication as much as (actually, more) than your tech skills that will make you successful. (mchua, 13:15:43) * You already know how to be good professors, good CS practitioners, engineers, writers, etc - whatever you teach - we're going to teach you how to do it The Open Source Way, with the millions of communities and contributors that are out there to partner with. (mchua, 13:16:49) * It will be disorienting, and it will be hard. You have been warned. :D (mchua, 13:16:58) * Chris polled the classroom - pretty much everyone uses at least one FOSS app, few people use FOSS for most of what they do. (mchua, 13:19:43) * LINK: http://piratepad.net/rit-posse-todo (mchua, 13:50:21) * Chris is explaining Fedora right now, after which I will be explaining Sugar (mchua, 14:12:39) * Morning break - followed by IRC: The Introduction (mchua, 14:32:51) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org (mchua, 14:48:59) * LINK: http://sugarlabs.org (mchua, 14:49:07) * LINK: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick (mchua, 14:49:10) * Definition: packaging -- the act of putting software (lots of raw code) into a format (one nicely bundled file) that is easy to install. (mchua, 14:51:05) * Definition: upstream & downstream - producers and consumers of open source/content, respectively. (mchua, 14:51:40) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT#Things_we_want_to_accomplish_this_week (mchua, 14:53:31) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT#Glossary (mchua, 14:54:53) * We're keeping a glossary of terms throughout the week - we can add new terms on IRC and on the whiteboard, but eventually we'll try to get them on this wiki page. (mchua, 14:55:59) * Introduction to tools (mchua, 14:56:32) * Wikis - collaboratively editable webpages. (mchua, 14:56:43) * Some examples are below. (mchua, 14:56:47) * http://teachingopensource.org (mchua, 14:56:55) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org (mchua, 14:57:14) * LINK: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org (mchua, 14:57:23) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki (mchua, 14:57:37) * Wikis are good for keeping collaborative notes/documentation/project-homepages, etc. (mchua, 14:57:49) * Blogging and Planets - planets are blog aggregators. Some examples: (mchua, 14:57:59) * LINK: http://planet.fedoraproject.org/ (mchua, 14:58:14) * LINK: http://planet.sugarlabs.org/ (mchua, 14:58:22) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet (mchua, 14:58:30) * Why blog? Think of it as a journal, a project notebook - a way to tell others what you're working on. (mchua, 14:59:04) * LINK: http://www.sububi.org/2009/07/27/the-busy-students-guide-to-project-blogging/ (mchua, 14:59:07) * Why read Planets? Think of it as reading other people's journals - it's a way of keeping up to date on what they're thinking about and working on. (mchua, 14:59:29) * Blogging in FOSS is very informal - rough drafts, braindumps, questions... thinking out loud - all the way up to more polished "I now present my project!" posts (much rarer). (mchua, 14:59:51) * You can make a Planet from any collection of feeds - for instance, you might want to have a feed for all the bloggers from your school.... (mchua, 15:00:36) * LINK: http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/~chris.tyler/planet/ (mchua, 15:00:40) * ...or your class. (mchua, 15:02:23) * LINK: http://act.ivism.org/blogs/pulse/ (mchua, 15:02:27) * The last link was the planet for this class: (mchua, 15:02:45) * LINK: http://www.rockalypse.org/courses/fs102sp10/ (mchua, 15:02:47) * Note that this class is *not* a technical class - it's a freshman seminar covering activism and teaching things like writing and public speaking. (mchua, 15:03:04) * You may think that the stuff you're doing with your class isn't important to the community, but you never know - so you *should* tell them! You might be surprised. (mchua, 15:04:53) * - the assignment is to make a wiki user page on the teaching open source wiki. (mchua, 15:32:16) * - the catch is that you can't edit your own page *and* you can only coordinate with the person you're working with via IRC. (mchua, 15:32:27) * IRC quirks (mchua, 17:05:26) * To send a private message to someone, use /msg (mchua, 17:07:20) * tab-completion works with nicks - for instanc, mch will likely autocomplete my nick (mchua) (mchua, 17:07:38) * LINK: http://fpaste.org/0GfZ/ (posse-projector, 17:09:55) * Creating a blog (mchua, 17:21:54) * LINK: http://wordpress.com (mchua, 17:22:05) * LINK: http://blogger.com (mchua, 17:22:08) * LINK: http://typepad.com (sdziallas, 17:24:36) * LINK: http://typepad.com (mchua, 17:24:47) * LINK: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting (mchua, 17:26:25) * Mediawiki syntax cheat sheet in the link above (mchua, 17:26:32) * LINK: http://teachingopensourse.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT # details of deliverables (posse-projector, 17:31:42) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet_Feed_List (ctyler, 17:39:54) * LINK: http://rgwteaching.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default # rss/atom feed for that URL (ctyler, 18:10:59) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet # Planet itself is at this URL (ctyler, 18:13:02) * And now, we interrupt for a word about FOSSCon... (mchua, 18:18:05) * LINK: file:///usr/share/bookmarks/default-bookmarks.html (mchua, 18:18:50) * LINK: http://fosscon.org/ (mchua, 18:19:00) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet_Feed_List (ctyler, 18:30:28) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet (ctyler, 18:32:17) Meeting ended at 00:45:46 UTC. 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