================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting ================================== Meeting started by jlaska at 16:01:14 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-04/qa.2010-01-04-16.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * gathering (jlaska, 16:01:34) * Previous meeting follow-up (jlaska, 16:04:28) * jlaska to post recommendations on F-12 QA retrospective (jlaska, 16:05:20) * adamw to escalate security policy issue to fesco (jlaska, 16:06:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/297 (adamw, 16:07:47) * jlaska to set up a meeting to co-ordinate test plan changes for F13 (jlaska, 16:08:57) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=Test+Review&milestone=Fedora+13&order=priority (jlaska, 16:11:22) * adamw and jlaska to look at setting up f13 test day process (jlaska, 16:11:58) * F-13 QA Recommendations (jlaska, 16:14:29) * ACTION: Viking-Ice investigating adding an LXDE test day to the F-13 test day schedule (jlaska, 16:18:56) * ACTION: maxamillion investigating scheduling a XFCE test day to F-13 test day schedule (jlaska, 16:19:29) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_QA_Retrospective#Recommendations (jlaska, 16:20:49) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_QA_Retrospective#Recommendations (jlaska, 16:22:05) * ACTION: adamw and rhe to discuss ways to add install testing as a QA activity (jlaska, 16:25:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/FeatureList (jlaska, 16:30:22) * F-13 QA Recommendations - test planning (jlaska, 16:30:53) * Maintenance of the Fedora Install Test Plan - Liam and Hurry are doing a lot of heavy lifting here (jlaska, 16:31:32) * Draft a more formal, but basic and lightweight, security checklist/test plan - discussed earlier, adamw has a fesco ticket filed ... stay tuned (jlaska, 16:31:55) * Draft a test plan to cover the desktop verification from Fedora_Release_Criteria (jlaska, 16:32:14) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria (jlaska, 16:32:19) * We have no formal Xorg-x11-drv test plan ... either create one, or develop proposal for gathering the same feedback through other means (smolt, bugzilla) (jlaska, 16:33:31) * ACTION: jlaska will reach out to mclasen for thoughts on F-13 fit'n'finish test days (jlaska, 16:47:03) * F-13 QA Recommendations - test automation (jlaska, 16:48:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_QA_Retrospective#Test_Automation (jlaska, 16:48:43) * Deploy AutoQA 'is rawhide broken?' front-end into fedora infrastructure (jlaska, 16:49:01) * ACTION: jlaska to reach out ot fedora-{test,devel}-list for trading reviews (jlaska, 16:49:25) * Deploy build-time sanity checking mechanism for package maintainers (rpmguard, rpmlint etc...) (jlaska, 16:49:36) * Develop proof-of-concept for automating install test matrix (jlaska, 16:50:44) * F-13 QA Recommendations - process (jlaska, 16:55:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_QA_Retrospective#Process_4 (jlaska, 16:55:16) * Move User:Liam/Draft_Install_Test_SOP out of draft status - to me this is part of making install testing easier (jlaska, 16:57:28) * Move User:Poelstra/blocker_bug_meeting_sop out of draft status - adamw had some improvements during FUDCon, I think we just need to dust it off before the blocker reviews kick in again (jlaska, 16:57:54) * Draft a SOP (or extract from existing BugsAndFeatureRequests page) that describes how to document bugs (e.g. common_bugs or release notes or install guide etc...) (jlaska, 16:58:07) * Draft/promote a recommended test checklist for rawhide testers (for example see User:Jlaska/Draft2) - this is something spot discussed a while ago and adamw drafted an idea. I think it would be worthwhile to reference from the QA/Joining page ... ideas? (jlaska, 16:59:17) * # 'How to debug problems?' -- Determine whether guides can be offered by Fedora QA as a result of a test day/feature process. - Viking-Ice already discussed this previously (jlaska, 17:00:36) * ACTION: jlaska to reach out to beland for guidance/ideas on how to document the process (or point to existing documentation) for how bugs are noted (common_bugs, release notes, install guide etc...) How to determine which bugs land in which place (jlaska, 17:04:23) * F-13 QA Recommendations - communication (jlaska, 17:05:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_QA_Retrospective#Communication_4 (jlaska, 17:05:13) * Open discussion - (jlaska, 17:06:49) Meeting ended at 17:10:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Viking-Ice investigating adding an LXDE test day to the F-13 test day schedule * maxamillion investigating scheduling a XFCE test day to F-13 test day schedule * adamw and rhe to discuss ways to add install testing as a QA activity * jlaska will reach out to mclasen for thoughts on F-13 fit'n'finish test days * jlaska to reach out ot fedora-{test,devel}-list for trading reviews * jlaska to reach out to beland for guidance/ideas on how to document the process (or point to existing documentation) for how bugs are noted (common_bugs, release notes, install guide etc...) How to determine which bugs land in which place Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw and rhe to discuss ways to add install testing as a QA activity * jlaska * jlaska will reach out to mclasen for thoughts on F-13 fit'n'finish test days * jlaska to reach out ot fedora-{test,devel}-list for trading reviews * jlaska to reach out to beland for guidance/ideas on how to document the process (or point to existing documentation) for how bugs are noted (common_bugs, release notes, install guide etc...) How to determine which bugs land in which place * maxamillion * maxamillion investigating scheduling a XFCE test day to F-13 test day schedule * Viking-Ice * Viking-Ice investigating adding an LXDE test day to the F-13 test day schedule * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jlaska (154) * adamw (57) * Viking-Ice (19) * maxamillion (17) * wwoods (12) * kparal (8) * nirik (4) * zodbot (3) * buggbot (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot